(01-07-2026 10:10 AM)AdoptedMonarch Wrote:  Reluctantly, I do strongly disagree, TBB4E (and GC). Three points, mostly in response to your post #35, but generally also:

--> Yes, I absolutely think that people take Donald Trump's statements seriously. Including the stupid stuff. As they should. He has the ability to send in the Delta Force (or Seal Team Six or National Guard or any other arm of our very powerful nation) at his bidding. That you trust him without question must be comforting. Not everyone does.

--> No, I do not need to "pick a side" with Donald Trump. Nor does anyone else. He deserves the respect of his office, but he is bottom line a public servant who works for us. With regard to this present moment, we are on the verge of changing not just the nation but the dynamics of the world. For the better. So long as the big mouth in charge doesn't blow it. There may be a point to threatening Denmark, and if so I am fully in support. But I don't know that, and neither do you. Telling someone to "pick a side" is a form of stfu. I'd expect that out of sk. I know that you are better than that, TB4E.

--> I hope that this isn't so, because I consider you one of the better posters on this site. But if the distress of seeing comments that you disagree with has become too much, then perhaps you should be off of the forum for a time. Airing out and testing disagreeable views (so long as not abusive in nature, like those of tanq.) are precisely what this forum is for.

With all due respect, my friend, we've tried playing nice with the left and the rest of the world for the longest time. We, as a party and a country, looked weak as hell because they never played nice with us, even our so-called "friends and allies" (Except maybe Israel, and even they aren't always on the up-and-up with us. It's impossible to be.) (Even Trump did this a little the first time, despite what people may think.) That's the point I was making and what I was mainly agreeing with TB4E on. (And let's be honest. I trust Trump a hell of a lot more than I've trusted any other president in my lifetime, even more than GW Bush, who was part of the Good Ole Boys Club in terms of the GOP. I guess I would trust Reagan just as much if I was old enough to really grasp what he was doing at the time, but I was born during his first term.)

As for picking a side, well, in my case, I don't want you caught in the middle because the left keeps moving even farther to the left. And eventually, they'll move so far they'll push you, someone in the middle, over to our side and call you the same names they call us.

Hey GC, every time you tell me how old you are, it reminds me that I am 35 years older than you. Yikes!

TB4E, this thread is actually about us obtaining Greenland. We are meeting with reps from there and Denmark this week to see about maybe buying it.

But somehow, what Trump says and how he says it takes up more oxygen here.

If I were king, every time we went off topic in a thread, we would have AI scan it and move it to its own thread, lol.

(01-07-2026 12:06 PM)TripleA Wrote:  If I were king, every time we went off topic in a thread, we would have AI scan it and move it to its own thread, lol.

(01-07-2026 12:11 PM)BartlettTigerFan Wrote:  

(01-07-2026 12:06 PM)TripleA Wrote:  If I were king, every time we went off topic in a thread, we would have AI scan it and move it to its own thread, lol.

Ok, git'er done!

There's always been and going to be some people that cares more about how the person dresses, talks, those type of things, over what gets done....

they are completely OK with the politician lying to them, not getting the job done, as long as they look and talk the part. The person could be dumb as a rock but if they "talk" a good game. These people will consider them smart.

(01-07-2026 12:21 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  There's always been and going to be some people that cares more about how the person dresses, talks, those type of things, over what gets done....

they are completely OK with the politician lying to them, not getting the job done, as long as they look and talk the part. The person could be dumb as a rock but if they "talk" a good game. These people will consider them smart.

Yep. It's a hard lesson to learn sometimes. Sugarcoating stuff is all well and good until the crap hits the fan anyway. I'd rather have blunt honesty (said with love, in accordance to the Bible) than flowery talk meant to make us feel good. (I guess that's why I quit going to non-denominational churches, too.)

(01-07-2026 12:26 PM)GeminiCoog Wrote:  

(01-07-2026 12:21 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  There's always been and going to be some people that cares more about how the person dresses, talks, those type of things, over what gets done....

they are completely OK with the politician lying to them, not getting the job done, as long as they look and talk the part. The person could be dumb as a rock but if they "talk" a good game. These people will consider them smart.

Yep. It's a hard lesson to learn sometimes. Sugarcoating stuff is all well and good until the crap hits the fan anyway. I'd rather have blunt honesty (said with love, in accordance to the Bible) than flowery talk meant to make us feel good. (I guess that's why I quit going to non-denominational churches, too.)

The funny thing is that I suspect you both think that your comments apply only to Trump critics.

What makes that funny?

It's that this entire thread is spawned by the crying that ensued from an initial comment (not by me, b.t.w.) expressing concern for Donald possibly jeopardizing his own incredible success by recklessly running his mouth.

In other words, "STFU, you TDS peons. Only we purists get to share our thoughts on this forum."

(01-07-2026 12:37 PM)AdoptedMonarch Wrote:  

(01-07-2026 12:26 PM)GeminiCoog Wrote:  

(01-07-2026 12:21 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  There's always been and going to be some people that cares more about how the person dresses, talks, those type of things, over what gets done....

they are completely OK with the politician lying to them, not getting the job done, as long as they look and talk the part. The person could be dumb as a rock but if they "talk" a good game. These people will consider them smart.

Yep. It's a hard lesson to learn sometimes. Sugarcoating stuff is all well and good until the crap hits the fan anyway. I'd rather have blunt honesty (said with love, in accordance to the Bible) than flowery talk meant to make us feel good. (I guess that's why I quit going to non-denominational churches, too.)

The funny thing is that I suspect you both think that your comments apply only to Trump critics.

What makes that funny?

It's that this entire thread is spawned by the crying that ensued from an initial comment (not by me, b.t.w.) expressing concern for Donald possibly jeopardizing his own incredible success by recklessly running his mouth.

In other words, "STFU, you TDS peons. Only we purists get to share our thoughts on this forum."

Nope. It applies to everybody, especially myself. And I've criticized Trump quite a bit as well, especially when he was first elected. (Heck, I even voted third party that time, which I had never done before and have never done since, because of him.)

Yes, words matter. So does the intent behind those words. And let's face it, the left will get mad at absolutely anything Trump says, even if he were to say it in the most positive, innocuous way possible. So yes, to me, it's silly to keep focusing on that time and time again. By the way, you know I hold you in no ill regard whatsoever. It just baffles me that after all this time, you keep coming back around to this even after he won you over in 2024. Really, his words aren't going to undo anything. His actions speak much louder than anything he can and will say anyway.

Having said all of that, we need dissenting voices even on our own side. On all sides, really. Or at least voices of conscience, one of which I believe you to be. What I worry about is when -- not if, but when -- the Good Ole Boys Club tries to take over the GOP again from the MAGA/America First Republicans. Because they will try. They're the ones who were the "play nice and go along to get along" guys even when the left would criticize them and call them every derogatory name in the book. And we can't go back to that, because doing that got us to 2016, and it got us to this point, too. That's what I'm saying, AM.

God Bless, brother.

(01-07-2026 12:37 PM)AdoptedMonarch Wrote:  

(01-07-2026 12:26 PM)GeminiCoog Wrote:  

(01-07-2026 12:21 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  There's always been and going to be some people that cares more about how the person dresses, talks, those type of things, over what gets done....

they are completely OK with the politician lying to them, not getting the job done, as long as they look and talk the part. The person could be dumb as a rock but if they "talk" a good game. These people will consider them smart.

Yep. It's a hard lesson to learn sometimes. Sugarcoating stuff is all well and good until the crap hits the fan anyway. I'd rather have blunt honesty (said with love, in accordance to the Bible) than flowery talk meant to make us feel good. (I guess that's why I quit going to non-denominational churches, too.)

The funny thing is that I suspect you both think that your comments apply only to Trump critics.

What makes that funny?

It's that this entire thread is spawned by the crying that ensued from an initial comment (not by me, b.t.w.) expressing concern for Donald possibly jeopardizing his own incredible success by recklessly running his mouth.

In other words, "STFU, you TDS peons. Only we purists get to share our thoughts on this forum."

Read what I said.....

some people care more about how the person says something and the way they say it . That's the most important thing to that person, not the job they are expected to do.

"Act like a president, senator, congressman" "talk like like a president, senator, congressman" Do that, lying to their face is not a problem.

While I did not give any names, you are one of those people that in my opinion value it and associate it with being smart. The most important part of the job and willing to look over the lying to your face.

I have not seen one good reason given by anybody in the administration to even purchase Greenland much less invade it

(01-07-2026 01:38 PM)ballantyneapp Wrote:  I have not seen one good reason given by anybody in the administration to even purchase Greenland much less invade it

Well, you're not exactly known for your political prowess so that doesn't surprise me.

(01-07-2026 01:41 PM)GeminiCoog Wrote:  

(01-07-2026 01:38 PM)ballantyneapp Wrote:  I have not seen one good reason given by anybody in the administration to even purchase Greenland much less invade it

Well, you're not exactly known for your political prowess so that doesn't surprise me.

I’m guessing this means that neither have you but dear leader gets to do whatever he wants

Have you ever tried thinking without falling back on your TDS? You really should. If, granted, you still feel that way afterwards, fine. Whatever. If you don't, well, maybe you should, you know, take that as a sign you should change your way of thinking altogether.

Of course, you and your leftists friends aren't going to, ballgargle, so I'm just wasting keystrokes.

This should be obvious, but Greenland sits in the middle of a direct route between us and western Russia, and also provides another access point by China.

Both Russian and Chinese ships are reportedly all over Greenland at the moment. Some subs are actually operating under the ice there.

Greenland also has REM that both countries are attempting to mine.

No one is seriously talking about invading them. We have talks scheduled Friday about purchasing Greenland.

(01-07-2026 01:55 PM)TripleA Wrote:  This should be obvious, but Greenland sits in the middle of a direct route between us and western Russia, and also provides another access point by China.

Both Russian and Chinese ships are reportedly all over Greenland at the moment. Some subs are actually operating under the ice there.

Greenland also has REM that both countries are attempting to mine.

No one is seriously talking about invading them. We have talks scheduled Friday about purchasing Greenland.

He doesn't care.

(01-07-2026 01:55 PM)TripleA Wrote:  Greenland sits in the middle of a direct route between us and western Russia, and also provides another access point by China.

Both Russian and Chinese ships are reportedly all over Greenland at the moment. Greenland also has REM that both countries are attempting to mine.

No one is seriously talking about invading them. We have talks scheduled Friday about purchasing Greenland.

do you know we already have a base on Greenland and an agreement to keep it there in perpetuity. Also that base is the only deepwater port on this side of the Arctic and only has ~3% of the personnel that were there during the cold war, with ZERO restrictions on us resupplying to cold war levels.

Also, before Trump started breaking down our alliances for "reasons", is there any evidence we couldn't completely control RE out of greenland since there are already dozens of US affiliated miners operating around there.

Again, what is the need?

Fetterman comes out in support of buying greenland.

This year is a week old and its been one hell of a kick to the tiny gonads of the libturds.

Yes, it has, UofMstateU. I expect many more kicks to their collective gonads in the days, weeks, months, and even years to come.

3A: Like I said, ballgargle doesn't care.

(01-07-2026 01:59 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  Fetterman comes out in support of buying greenland.

This year is a week old and its been one hell of a kick to the tiny gonads of the libturds.

actual brain damage=maga.