(12-10-2025 05:26 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(12-10-2025 05:08 PM)GeminiCoog Wrote:  72-hour rule.

oh, it happened … with more to follow … he wants Maduro gone, STAT!

#adiosAmigo

addendum: ball gargles acts like we didn’t know future military action wouldn’t be taken, nor would support such moves … it won’t be boots, but it’ll be everything else…

Hey! If it stops drugs and confiscates oil at the same time, it's a win/win! Hell, I think we should keep the ship to boot. I mean local cops pullover out of state people plant evidence while searching the car and then impound the vehicle for auction right? It's all part of Bush's war on drugs.

Maybe under the same pretext we could raid Mexico, put the cartels out of business and confiscate the country! And hell it could all be labeled a "Police Action!"

There may be more here in the way of possibilities than first considered!

(12-10-2025 07:37 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(12-10-2025 05:26 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(12-10-2025 05:08 PM)GeminiCoog Wrote:  72-hour rule.

oh, it happened … with more to follow … he wants Maduro gone, STAT!

#adiosAmigo

addendum: ball gargles acts like we didn’t know future military action wouldn’t be taken, nor would support such moves … it won’t be boots, but it’ll be everything else…

Hey! If it stops drugs and confiscates oil at the same time, it's a win/win! Hell, I think we should keep the ship to boot. I mean local cops pullover out of state people plant evidence while searching the car and then impound the vehicle for auction right? It's all part of Bush's war on drugs.

Maybe under the same pretext we could raid Mexico, put the cartels out of business and confiscate the country! And hell it could all be labeled a "Police Action!"

There may be more here in the way of possibilities than first considered!

absolutely! … I like ‘coog’s behind-the-scenes - more to it scenario…

win/win all day long!!!

(12-10-2025 07:30 PM)ballantyneapp Wrote:  

(12-10-2025 07:26 PM)maximus Wrote:  

(12-10-2025 06:33 PM)ballantyneapp Wrote:  

(12-10-2025 06:18 PM)maximus Wrote:  The OP must be retarded, we dont need or want their dirty ass oil.

I mean maybe a few barrels to use for public tar and feathering, no need to waste the good stuff.

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I know this is pretty much wasted effort given your very limited capacity, but you should probably look up who is currently refining the bulk of Venezuelan sour

Ummm Venezuela dope

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Look again, maybe use daddy elons Ai if you can’t figure it out

The majority is refined in country retard

They refine more than they export

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(12-10-2025 07:59 PM)maximus Wrote:  

(12-10-2025 07:30 PM)ballantyneapp Wrote:  

(12-10-2025 07:26 PM)maximus Wrote:  

(12-10-2025 06:33 PM)ballantyneapp Wrote:  

(12-10-2025 06:18 PM)maximus Wrote:  The OP must be retarded, we dont need or want their dirty ass oil.

I mean maybe a few barrels to use for public tar and feathering, no need to waste the good stuff.

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I know this is pretty much wasted effort given your very limited capacity, but you should probably look up who is currently refining the bulk of Venezuelan sour

Ummm Venezuela dope

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Look again, maybe use daddy elons Ai if you can’t figure it out

The majority is refined in country retard

They refine more than they export

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Wrong again (really no need to specify with any of your dumb*** assertions) Venezuela has let its refining capacity go to **** since it’s not spent real money up keeping including this fire just last month. They are an importer of fuel and refined oil products

https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/...025-11-20/

(12-10-2025 06:00 PM)andybible1995 Wrote:  

(12-10-2025 05:42 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(12-10-2025 05:36 PM)GeminiCoog Wrote:  

(12-10-2025 05:26 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(12-10-2025 05:08 PM)GeminiCoog Wrote:  72-hour rule.

oh, it happened … with more to follow … he wants Maduro gone, STAT!

#adiosAmigo

addendum: ball gargles acts like we didn’t know future military action wouldn’t be taken, nor would support such moves … it won’t be boots, but it’ll be everything else…

I saw that. I only called 72-hour rule because, well, it's one of the board leftists making the thread.

he’s thinks he’s the newest board’s moral majority … fk him!!! … period…

you’ll never see my arse respond to these trolls in earnest … #justFk’em #zeroSympathy

has worked well for me … I love being on ignore!!!

That's why I quit responding to the leftists on here. It's not worth it. If I'm on their ignore list, oh well. Their fault, not mine.

I take offense to Tom more than anyone because he goes out of his way to call posters like you and I worthless, engage in a school yard name calling GC, puts all of us on ignore, AND YET GOES OUT OF HIS WAY TO RESPOND TO ALL OF US!

Why? Because he wants to maintain control of the situation and claim moral superiority over us.

I'm starting to see why his wife left him.

Is the same candy ass that made a whole ass thread about not attacking his psychological issues really personally attacking someone?

(12-10-2025 10:08 PM)bobdizole Wrote:  

(12-10-2025 06:00 PM)andybible1995 Wrote:  

(12-10-2025 05:42 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(12-10-2025 05:36 PM)GeminiCoog Wrote:  

(12-10-2025 05:26 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  oh, it happened … with more to follow … he wants Maduro gone, STAT!

#adiosAmigo

addendum: ball gargles acts like we didn’t know future military action wouldn’t be taken, nor would support such moves … it won’t be boots, but it’ll be everything else…

I saw that. I only called 72-hour rule because, well, it's one of the board leftists making the thread.

he’s thinks he’s the newest board’s moral majority … fk him!!! … period…

you’ll never see my arse respond to these trolls in earnest … #justFk’em #zeroSympathy

has worked well for me … I love being on ignore!!!

That's why I quit responding to the leftists on here. It's not worth it. If I'm on their ignore list, oh well. Their fault, not mine.

I take offense to Tom more than anyone because he goes out of his way to call posters like you and I worthless, engage in a school yard name calling GC, puts all of us on ignore, AND YET GOES OUT OF HIS WAY TO RESPOND TO ALL OF US!

Why? Because he wants to maintain control of the situation and claim moral superiority over us.

I'm starting to see why his wife left him.

Is the same candy ass that made a whole ass thread about not attacking his psychological issues really personally attacking someone?

lol Yep. He's calling me "lard ass" when he himself has a weight problem. I personally think it's hilarious.

(12-10-2025 10:19 PM)GeminiCoog Wrote:  

(12-10-2025 10:08 PM)bobdizole Wrote:  

(12-10-2025 06:00 PM)andybible1995 Wrote:  

(12-10-2025 05:42 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(12-10-2025 05:36 PM)GeminiCoog Wrote:  I saw that. I only called 72-hour rule because, well, it's one of the board leftists making the thread.

he’s thinks he’s the newest board’s moral majority … fk him!!! … period…

you’ll never see my arse respond to these trolls in earnest … #justFk’em #zeroSympathy

has worked well for me … I love being on ignore!!!

That's why I quit responding to the leftists on here. It's not worth it. If I'm on their ignore list, oh well. Their fault, not mine.

I take offense to Tom more than anyone because he goes out of his way to call posters like you and I worthless, engage in a school yard name calling GC, puts all of us on ignore, AND YET GOES OUT OF HIS WAY TO RESPOND TO ALL OF US!

Why? Because he wants to maintain control of the situation and claim moral superiority over us.

I'm starting to see why his wife left him.

Is the same candy ass that made a whole ass thread about not attacking his psychological issues really personally attacking someone?

lol Yep. He's calling me "lard ass" when he himself has a weight problem. I personally think it's hilarious.

I think it's pathetic. Whether you agree or not is irrelevant. Tom calling you lard ass shows who the actual person that needs help is.

(12-10-2025 08:37 PM)ballantyneapp Wrote:  

(12-10-2025 07:59 PM)maximus Wrote:  

(12-10-2025 07:30 PM)ballantyneapp Wrote:  

(12-10-2025 07:26 PM)maximus Wrote:  

(12-10-2025 06:33 PM)ballantyneapp Wrote:  I know this is pretty much wasted effort given your very limited capacity, but you should probably look up who is currently refining the bulk of Venezuelan sour

Ummm Venezuela dope

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Look again, maybe use daddy elons Ai if you can’t figure it out

The majority is refined in country retard

They refine more than they export

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Wrong again (really no need to specify with any of your dumb*** assertions) Venezuela has let its refining capacity go to **** since it’s not spent real money up keeping including this fire just last month. They are an importer of fuel and refined oil products

https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/...025-11-20/

Nah.... yes their refining capacity is less than 30% or so but they still refine more in country.

Nice try though

Venezuela refines more oil than it imports, based on the latest available data for 2024 and early 2025. This holds despite the country's chronic refining challenges (e.g., underutilization, breakdowns, and reliance on imported diluents to process its heavy crude). Below, I'll break it down with key figures, trends, and context.Key Figures (Averages for 2024–Early 2025)Domestic Refining Throughput: ~200,000–400,000 barrels per day (bpd). 2023: 137,000 bpd (down ~80% from 2014 peaks due to outages).
2024 estimates: ~300,000–400,000 bpd, with partial restarts aided by Iranian technicians and parts, though still at ~20–30% of 1.3–1.46 million bpd nameplate capacity.
Early 2025: Similar levels, hovering around 300,000 bpd amid power issues and limited diluents.
Oil Imports: ~100,000–150,000 bpd (mostly light crude, naphtha diluents, and fuels).2024: ~92,000 bpd (up from 60,000 bpd in 2023; primarily swaps with partners like Chevron for diluents to blend heavy Orinoco crude).
November 2025: ~167,000 bpd (doubled from October due to increased naphtha from Russia and the U.S. to offset upgrader fires).
Annual 2025 trend: ~120,000 bpd average, focused on inputs for refining/export rather than finished products.
Comparison: Refining throughput exceeds imports by ~100,000–200,000 bpd on average. For context, Venezuela's crude production is ~900,000–950,000 bpd, with ~55–60% going to domestic refineries (yielding gasoline, diesel, etc., for local use and limited exports) and the rest exported as crude.Why This Imbalance?Refining Purpose: Most refined output (300,000+ bpd) addresses domestic shortages (e.g., gasoline/diesel), with imports mainly serving as "feedstock" to enable that process. Without imported diluents (100,000+ bpd of the total imports), heavy crude couldn't flow through pipelines or be upgraded efficiently.
Challenges: Refineries like Paraguaná (world's largest complex) run at low capacity due to sanctions, corruption, and maintenance issues, forcing imports. However, throughput still outpaces imports.
Exports Context: Crude exports (~700,000–900,000 bpd) dwarf both, but that's unrefined output—not relevant to refining vs. importing.


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Do leftists ever get anything exactly right in a debate? Seems like all half truths or twisted reality.

(12-11-2025 02:12 AM)TripleA Wrote:  Do leftists ever get anything exactly right in a debate? Seems like all half truths or twisted reality.

lol /rhetorical

I’m glad to know the US military is now serving and executing civil warrants. Maybe I can sign up my local Rangers detachment to execute service on my next subpoenas or execute a court authorized seizure. Sounds fun.

(12-11-2025 02:12 AM)TripleA Wrote:  Do leftists ever get anything exactly right in a debate? Seems like all half truths or twisted reality.

It's the Reddit effect.

Is this OFAC related?

Hey Tanq, Sen. Sheehy of Montana just gave you a shout-out. He said any American who opposes our actions in Venezuela (the boat strikes and tanker seizure) is a disgusting person, and should be ashamed of himself.

(12-11-2025 08:37 AM)VA49er Wrote:  Is this OFAC related?

dunno ... but it's easily FAFO mat'l ...

(12-11-2025 09:17 AM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(12-11-2025 08:37 AM)VA49er Wrote:  Is this OFAC related?

dunno ... but it's easily FAFO mat'l ...

My guess is that Office of Foreign Asset Control (OFAC) is the angle they are taking, especially if it's true that it's an Iranian tanker operating under another name. Probably something to do with breaking sanctions.

(12-11-2025 09:21 AM)VA49er Wrote:  

(12-11-2025 09:17 AM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(12-11-2025 08:37 AM)VA49er Wrote:  Is this OFAC related?

dunno ... but it's easily FAFO mat'l ...

My guess is that Office of Foreign Asset Control (OFAC) is the angle they are taking, especially if it's true that it's an Iranian tanker operating under another name. Probably something to do with breaking sanctions.

Exactly what they just said. It has been under sanctions for quite a while, and we are now taking action.

Trump just said if the head of Colombia doesn't straighten up, "He will be next."

(12-11-2025 09:21 AM)VA49er Wrote:  

(12-11-2025 09:17 AM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(12-11-2025 08:37 AM)VA49er Wrote:  Is this OFAC related?

dunno ... but it's easily FAFO mat'l ...

My guess is that Office of Foreign Asset Control (OFAC) is the angle they are taking, especially if it's true that it's an Iranian tanker operating under another name. Probably something to do with breaking sanctions.

that's easily one angle that could be applied in the 'legality' of such ... however, tanq-0'fer-rang believes this is akin to issuing civil warrants ...


'coog basically brought this up yesterday coupled with mother russia and the chinks having more interest in the region ... it's a valid assumption and why #groverII isn't going to play the games of past leadership....


then there's the tanq-0'fer-rangs who are still using juvy court logic in opposition ...

Sanction enforcement is not "against the law". We have done it before. Google Suez Rajan. I know, no one has heard of it.....because it happened during the Biden Administration. Our country is so phucked by the "news".

https://military-history.fandom.com/wiki/Suez_Rajan

"The Marshall Islands-flagged Suez Rajan, carrying Iranian-grade crude oil,[1] was seized in April 2023 by the US Department of Justice.[2] The Suez Rajan was carrying about 800,000 barrels of oil, a cargo worth about $56 million.[3] The US justification for the seizure was violation of US sanctions on Iran's oil exports, and the US said the Suez Rajan scheme "attempted to disguise the origin of the oil using ship-to-ship transfers". Suez Rajan Ltd., the owner of the ship, pleaded guilty and was fined $2.5 million. The US claimed ownership of the confiscated oil.[4] As the original payment to Iran for the Iranian oil was done using US dollar transaction wire transfers, without a license issued by the Office of Foreign Assets Control of the US Department of the Treasury, the US could claim jurisdiction under US law.[5]"