(09-12-2025 12:34 PM)CLTPirate Wrote:  Okay, let's say the kid is a left-wing radical, what does that mean for our country? Should we start a modern Red Scare by declaring war on and banning far-left organizations? Lock up leading radicals? Debate them into obscurity?

Any organization (left or right) that engages in violent activities that are antithetical to the Constitution and Bill of Rights , or seeks to gain influence through acts of domestic terrorism have no place in this county.

(09-12-2025 12:52 PM)gdunn Wrote:  

(09-12-2025 12:48 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  

(09-12-2025 12:21 PM)gdunn Wrote:  

(09-12-2025 12:18 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  

(09-12-2025 12:04 PM)GeminiCoog Wrote:  Texas A&M is probably the most famous ag school in the country, and it just fired both a teacher and a dean for stifling free speech. Tell me again how ag schools are somehow immune from left-wing administration and faculty spreading their ideology to college students.

Stifling free speech or having their free speech stifled? It sounds like Texas wants to micromanage collegiate curriculum like it’s high school and President Trump’s executive orders have zero legal standing in a state university. The school caved because it’s easier to stand up to the handful of liberals within the state legislature than it is to the conservatives. Its also why many educators within the state are leaving.

Tell me you don't understand the First Amendment by telling me you don't understand the First Amendment.

You can freely celebrate a man's death if you chose to and the US government cannot arrest you or punish you. However, your employer is a different story.

The firing at A&M had zero to do with Charlie Kirk.
Use need to save that talking point for a different firing…. I’ll give you a redo.

Use need?

Bubba, I'm sorry I assumed it was about Charlie Kirk considering this is in a Charlie Kirk thread, maybe context would help or an article. That is not on me, you got off topic.

Piece of advice, either scroll through the thread or quit digging…

(09-12-2025 12:48 PM)CLTPirate Wrote:  

(09-12-2025 12:41 PM)oruvoice Wrote:  

(09-12-2025 12:34 PM)CLTPirate Wrote:  Okay, let's say the kid is a left-wing radical, what does that mean for our country? Should we start a modern Red Scare by declaring war on and banning far-left organizations? Lock up leading radicals? Debate them into obscurity?

I have an idea! How about someone start an organization that goes to college campuses and has an open dialogue to discuss & debate all topics. Everyone can express their opinions and then everyone can make choices on what they think, in a peaceful manner. We can name it Turning Point. Surely no one on the left could argue with that concept or want to silence the free exchange of ideas & opinions.

75 million people voted for Democrats last November, if a handful of them are lunatics, does this mean all peaceful discourse is over? Maybe the country is doomed

I saw a poll yesterday that among lefties, over 55% thinks it would be ok to kill Trump (end justifying the means). Not sure your deifinition of "handful", but it might be a little different than mine.

Chris Rufo goes after Kash Patel.

(09-12-2025 01:01 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  

(09-12-2025 12:52 PM)gdunn Wrote:  

(09-12-2025 12:48 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  

(09-12-2025 12:21 PM)gdunn Wrote:  

(09-12-2025 12:18 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  Stifling free speech or having their free speech stifled? It sounds like Texas wants to micromanage collegiate curriculum like it’s high school and President Trump’s executive orders have zero legal standing in a state university. The school caved because it’s easier to stand up to the handful of liberals within the state legislature than it is to the conservatives. Its also why many educators within the state are leaving.

Tell me you don't understand the First Amendment by telling me you don't understand the First Amendment.

You can freely celebrate a man's death if you chose to and the US government cannot arrest you or punish you. However, your employer is a different story.

The firing at A&M had zero to do with Charlie Kirk.
Use need to save that talking point for a different firing…. I’ll give you a redo.

Use need?

Bubba, I'm sorry I assumed it was about Charlie Kirk considering this is in a Charlie Kirk thread, maybe context would help or an article. That is not on me, you got off topic.

Piece of advice, either scroll through the thread or quit digging…

Piece of advice, stay on topic. Don't you dare try to lecture me on anything "Mensa"... At least I can defend anything I state without sharing an article the shaped my thought..

Sorry I don't have time to dig through multiple pages of your drivel to drop my IQ.

I think we're nearing the point where our differences are irreconcilable and we need to split into two countries.

(09-12-2025 01:08 PM)ECUGrad07 Wrote:  I think we're nearing the point where our differences are irreconcilable and we need to split into two countries.

It’ll never happen because the stark differences aren’t states anymore. Heck even New Jersey shifted more towards Red in the last election. It’s these conclaves of universities and colleges (academia/law schools) where the real differences are snc then they spread to middle size to large cities

(09-12-2025 01:08 PM)ECUGrad07 Wrote:  I think we're nearing the point where our differences are irreconcilable and we need to split into two countries.

If were broken down by simple geography I'd agree.

(09-12-2025 01:08 PM)ECUGrad07 Wrote:  I think we're nearing the point where our differences are irreconcilable and we need to split into two countries.

I'd rather have a long violent and bloody civil war with the left than split up into two countries. Besides, the left will declare the right wing country a terrorist nation and send in the stormtroopers of the UN to do their dirty work.

We can keep America whole if we just eliminate the left.

By the end of this there will be several hundred retards fired over rejoicing about this assassination

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(09-12-2025 01:04 PM)gdunn Wrote:  

(09-12-2025 01:01 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  

(09-12-2025 12:52 PM)gdunn Wrote:  

(09-12-2025 12:48 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  

(09-12-2025 12:21 PM)gdunn Wrote:  Tell me you don't understand the First Amendment by telling me you don't understand the First Amendment.

You can freely celebrate a man's death if you chose to and the US government cannot arrest you or punish you. However, your employer is a different story.

The firing at A&M had zero to do with Charlie Kirk.
Use need to save that talking point for a different firing…. I’ll give you a redo.

Use need?

Bubba, I'm sorry I assumed it was about Charlie Kirk considering this is in a Charlie Kirk thread, maybe context would help or an article. That is not on me, you got off topic.

Piece of advice, either scroll through the thread or quit digging…

Piece of advice, stay on topic. Don't you dare try to lecture me on anything "Mensa"... At least I can defend anything I state without sharing an article the shaped my thought..

Sorry I don't have time to dig through multiple pages of your drivel to drop my IQ.

Its not my fault you’re a dumb ass.

(09-12-2025 01:25 PM)maximus Wrote:  By the end of this there will be several hundred retards fired over rejoicing about this assassination

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I would love to laugh right in that idiot’s face

Emotional child.

Somebody ought to gently let him know that this is a learning lesson: Play stupid games, win stupid prizes........

(09-12-2025 01:29 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  

(09-12-2025 01:04 PM)gdunn Wrote:  

(09-12-2025 01:01 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  

(09-12-2025 12:52 PM)gdunn Wrote:  

(09-12-2025 12:48 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  The firing at A&M had zero to do with Charlie Kirk.
Use need to save that talking point for a different firing…. I’ll give you a redo.

Use need?

Bubba, I'm sorry I assumed it was about Charlie Kirk considering this is in a Charlie Kirk thread, maybe context would help or an article. That is not on me, you got off topic.

Piece of advice, either scroll through the thread or quit digging…

Piece of advice, stay on topic. Don't you dare try to lecture me on anything "Mensa"... At least I can defend anything I state without sharing an article the shaped my thought..

Sorry I don't have time to dig through multiple pages of your drivel to drop my IQ.

Its not my fault you’re a dumb ass.

Not my fault you can't stay on topic. You must be looking in the mirror when you called someone a DA. Son if you needed brain cells to rub together to start a fire you'd be SOL.

At least I can defend my points and stay on topic. Or do I need to show you an article cause you must be spoonfed everything. You still giving your boss your mileage to report on his taxes?

(09-12-2025 12:04 PM)GeminiCoog Wrote:  

(09-12-2025 12:02 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  

(09-12-2025 11:59 AM)BigTigerMike Wrote:  The leftists here and the so-called moderates like Tigergreen are in denial that a kid can become radicalized into far-left ideology despite their alleged upbringing. That’s what radicalization means—- a sudden change and shift

At Utah State?

Texas A&M is probably the most famous ag school in the country, and it just fired both a teacher and a dean for stifling free speech. Tell me again how ag schools are somehow immune from left-wing administration and faculty spreading their ideology to college students.

A&M is the most conservative large public school in the country but still has leftist faculty.

C'mon folks, let's be real. The vast majority of those who work in education at any level are left leaning. No matter if the school or community is more conservative, education is a field that does not attract many of the more conservative people.

(09-12-2025 02:23 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(09-12-2025 12:04 PM)GeminiCoog Wrote:  

(09-12-2025 12:02 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  

(09-12-2025 11:59 AM)BigTigerMike Wrote:  The leftists here and the so-called moderates like Tigergreen are in denial that a kid can become radicalized into far-left ideology despite their alleged upbringing. That’s what radicalization means—- a sudden change and shift

At Utah State?

Texas A&M is probably the most famous ag school in the country, and it just fired both a teacher and a dean for stifling free speech. Tell me again how ag schools are somehow immune from left-wing administration and faculty spreading their ideology to college students.

A&M is the most conservative large public school in the country but still has leftist faculty.

As it should… there is nothing wrong with balance

(09-12-2025 01:20 PM)andybible1995 Wrote:  

(09-12-2025 01:08 PM)ECUGrad07 Wrote:  I think we're nearing the point where our differences are irreconcilable and we need to split into two countries.

I'd rather have a long violent and bloody civil war with the left than split up into two countries. Besides, the left will declare the right wing country a terrorist nation and send in the stormtroopers of the UN to do their dirty work.

We can keep America whole if we just eliminate the left.

Cant agree at all with this one Andy. Frankly, I'd be fine with a split.

Why have a war with to force people to adopt your beliefs if simply each group going their own way is a perfectly functional option? We can go our way---have our own nation----and they can go live any way they wish without adversely affecting me. We can make everything inside the current existing US a "free trade and mutual defense zone" (kinda like the EU)----so effectively we remain a single economic and military entity when it comes to the outside world---but we would live in a moral christian nation with our laws and customs intact. Id be just fine with that.

(09-12-2025 12:16 PM)gdunn Wrote:  

(09-12-2025 12:02 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  

(09-12-2025 11:59 AM)BigTigerMike Wrote:  The leftists here and the so-called moderates like Tigergreen are in denial that a kid can become radicalized into far-left ideology despite their alleged upbringing. That’s what radicalization means—- a sudden change and shift

In the engineering department at Utah State?

You'd be surprised.. Just cause someone is in the STEM programs or engineering, doesn't mean they're

A. Only taking engineering classes
B. Not influenced by their instructors

I can remember during the 2004 election I came to class wearing a "W" sticker and the instructor told me and anyone voting for W to leave. The entire class got up. When the head of the department saw us all walk out, he confronted him, and told him to leave his politics at the door, he was here to teach us about Strength of Materials not politics.

Not every college has a Department Head such as that.

lmao ... there's really isn't anything better than walking out of a class taught by a libtard ... I had a few of those 'momentos' ... never had the entire class do it ... that's impressive...

There is a bell curve to any demographic, and the bell curve of White Young Men from Southern Utah includes Communist Terrorists in one of it's wings. However, even with that, people need to understand that Utah is changing, and turning more purple. Similarly, the LDS church is changing, as the leadership seems more interested in mask wearing, getting shots, feminism and funding mass migration. There seems to be a disconnect between current leadership and "orthodox" Mormons.

I foresee the assassination is going to put pressure on the leadership to reconsider their support for leftist causes, but it is too early to see if it will result in any change. I know the "rank and file" members are really mad about his murder, as Charlie Kirk had considerable support in the church, and especially among the young adults that are a very tough demographic for any church.The Romney/Huntsman faction has been fighting against the Lee/Biggs faction, and largely winning. However, this changes that dynamic, and it seems to me that Governor Cox has changed his approach as reality has hit him in the face.

It is entirely possible that this incident would not have happened at all if Charlie Kirk had been able to have his event at BYU as originally requested. The larger crowds could have been more easily and safely handled, and the threat of a lone gunman significantly reduced. However, the death threats and protests were even more severe for his planned event at Utah State University, so an event at BYU may have just spared him a few days.

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