(09-12-2025 12:07 PM)BigTigerMike Wrote:  

(09-12-2025 12:04 PM)GeminiCoog Wrote:  

(09-12-2025 12:02 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  

(09-12-2025 11:59 AM)BigTigerMike Wrote:  The leftists here and the so-called moderates like Tigergreen are in denial that a kid can become radicalized into far-left ideology despite their alleged upbringing. That’s what radicalization means—- a sudden change and shift

At Utah State?

Texas A&M is probably the most famous ag school in the country, and it just fired both a teacher and a dean for stifling free speech. Tell me again how ag schools are somehow immune from left-wing administration and faculty spreading their ideology to college students.

No lie…..My brother who is a preacher sent his daughter off the Oral Robert’s and she came back ‘woke’

ORU has been going woke for many years now. When your theology is God wants you to be happy, healthy, & wealthy, there is no foundation for anything Godly.

(09-12-2025 12:13 PM)BigTigerMike Wrote:  

(09-12-2025 12:02 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  

(09-12-2025 11:59 AM)BigTigerMike Wrote:  The leftists here and the so-called moderates like Tigergreen are in denial that a kid can become radicalized into far-left ideology despite their alleged upbringing. That’s what radicalization means—- a sudden change and shift

In the engineering department at Utah State?

Yes Utah State approves radical far left groups on campus and this what happens

Bumping this for tigergreen for her to see it, even though she probably won't.

(09-12-2025 12:02 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  

(09-12-2025 11:59 AM)BigTigerMike Wrote:  The leftists here and the so-called moderates like Tigergreen are in denial that a kid can become radicalized into far-left ideology despite their alleged upbringing. That’s what radicalization means—- a sudden change and shift

In the engineering department at Utah State?

You'd be surprised.. Just cause someone is in the STEM programs or engineering, doesn't mean they're

A. Only taking engineering classes
B. Not influenced by their instructors

I can remember during the 2004 election I came to class wearing a "W" sticker and the instructor told me and anyone voting for W to leave. The entire class got up. When the head of the department saw us all walk out, he confronted him, and told him to leave his politics at the door, he was here to teach us about Strength of Materials not politics.

Not every college has a Department Head such as that.

(09-12-2025 12:04 PM)GeminiCoog Wrote:  

(09-12-2025 12:02 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  

(09-12-2025 11:59 AM)BigTigerMike Wrote:  The leftists here and the so-called moderates like Tigergreen are in denial that a kid can become radicalized into far-left ideology despite their alleged upbringing. That’s what radicalization means—- a sudden change and shift

At Utah State?

Texas A&M is probably the most famous ag school in the country, and it just fired both a teacher and a dean for stifling free speech. Tell me again how ag schools are somehow immune from left-wing administration and faculty spreading their ideology to college students.

Stifling free speech or having their free speech stifled? It sounds like Texas wants to micromanage collegiate curriculum like it’s high school and President Trump’s executive orders have zero legal standing in a state university. The school caved because it’s easier to stand up to the handful of liberals within the state legislature than it is to the conservatives. Its also why many educators within the state are leaving.

(09-12-2025 12:18 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  

(09-12-2025 12:04 PM)GeminiCoog Wrote:  

(09-12-2025 12:02 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  

(09-12-2025 11:59 AM)BigTigerMike Wrote:  The leftists here and the so-called moderates like Tigergreen are in denial that a kid can become radicalized into far-left ideology despite their alleged upbringing. That’s what radicalization means—- a sudden change and shift

At Utah State?

Texas A&M is probably the most famous ag school in the country, and it just fired both a teacher and a dean for stifling free speech. Tell me again how ag schools are somehow immune from left-wing administration and faculty spreading their ideology to college students.

Stifling free speech or having their free speech stifled? It sounds like Texas wants to micromanage collegiate curriculum like it’s high school and President Trump’s executive orders have zero legal standing in a state university. The school caved because it’s easier to stand up to the handful of liberals within the state legislature than it is to the conservatives. Its also why many educators within the state are leaving.

Tell me you don't understand the First Amendment by telling me you don't understand the First Amendment.

You can freely celebrate a man's death if you chose to and the US government cannot arrest you or punish you. However, your employer is a different story.

(09-12-2025 12:18 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  

(09-12-2025 12:04 PM)GeminiCoog Wrote:  

(09-12-2025 12:02 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  

(09-12-2025 11:59 AM)BigTigerMike Wrote:  The leftists here and the so-called moderates like Tigergreen are in denial that a kid can become radicalized into far-left ideology despite their alleged upbringing. That’s what radicalization means—- a sudden change and shift

At Utah State?

Texas A&M is probably the most famous ag school in the country, and it just fired both a teacher and a dean for stifling free speech. Tell me again how ag schools are somehow immune from left-wing administration and faculty spreading their ideology to college students.

Stifling free speech or having their free speech stifled? It sounds like Texas wants to micromanage collegiate curriculum like it’s high school and President Trump’s executive orders have zero legal standing in a state university. The school caved because it’s easier to stand up to the handful of liberals within the state legislature than it is to the conservatives. Its also why many educators within the state are leaving.

Nope. The kid was speaking out about trans ideology in the classroom and the teacher kicked him out. That's stifling free speech. And even though TAMU is a public university, it's still an employer, which means it can fire anyone with cause as it sees fit.

(09-12-2025 12:14 PM)GeminiCoog Wrote:  

(09-12-2025 12:13 PM)BigTigerMike Wrote:  

(09-12-2025 12:02 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  

(09-12-2025 11:59 AM)BigTigerMike Wrote:  The leftists here and the so-called moderates like Tigergreen are in denial that a kid can become radicalized into far-left ideology despite their alleged upbringing. That’s what radicalization means—- a sudden change and shift

In the engineering department at Utah State?

Yes Utah State approves radical far left groups on campus and this what happens

Bumping this for tigergreen for her to see it, even though she probably won't.

Correct. Bump

(09-12-2025 12:18 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  

(09-12-2025 12:04 PM)GeminiCoog Wrote:  

(09-12-2025 12:02 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  

(09-12-2025 11:59 AM)BigTigerMike Wrote:  The leftists here and the so-called moderates like Tigergreen are in denial that a kid can become radicalized into far-left ideology despite their alleged upbringing. That’s what radicalization means—- a sudden change and shift

At Utah State?

Texas A&M is probably the most famous ag school in the country, and it just fired both a teacher and a dean for stifling free speech. Tell me again how ag schools are somehow immune from left-wing administration and faculty spreading their ideology to college students.

Stifling free speech or having their free speech stifled? It sounds like Texas wants to micromanage collegiate curriculum like it’s high school and President Trump’s executive orders have zero legal standing in a state university. The school caved because it’s easier to stand up to the handful of liberals within the state legislature than it is to the conservatives. Its also why many educators within the state are leaving.

Leftie concept of free speech...we get to teach there are 849 genders and if you say there are 2, then you are stifling free speech. And, anything we disagree with is hate speech.

It really is hard to have legitimate discourse with morons.

(09-12-2025 12:13 PM)tigergreen Wrote:  

(09-12-2025 12:02 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  

(09-12-2025 11:59 AM)BigTigerMike Wrote:  The leftists here and the so-called moderates like Tigergreen are in denial that a kid can become radicalized into far-left ideology despite their alleged upbringing. That’s what radicalization means—- a sudden change and shift

In the engineering department at Utah State?

...and only for one year before you drop out. I mean, OF COURSE 10 months in a conservative region's college will turn you into a sharp-shooting leftist assassin.

...thanks guys, for the reminder of why I no longer come on this board.
Was on to share the news of fsquid and poked around for the past several days, and it's devolved even more into a trump echo chamber.

Good luck, Mensa.

Don't blame us. You came here with complete nonsense as If how this kid was raised had any to do with it.

Okay, let's say the kid is a left-wing radical, what does that mean for our country? Should we start a modern Red Scare by declaring war on and banning far-left organizations? Lock up leading radicals? Debate them into obscurity?

(09-12-2025 10:08 AM)TomorrowHerd Wrote:  

(09-12-2025 09:09 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  22 year old Utah State engineering student. How does a kid from what on the surface appears to be a very normal middle class background turn into an assassin? Instead of investigating “left wing violence” what needs to be investigated is the impact of social media on white male teens… because this epidemic and disenfranchisement is rooted there and its not bound by political ideology. Utah State is an AG school in a very conservative state, its not some bastion of liberal ideology. Reviewing some of the social media links on Threads, his existence seemed very normal.

I feel terrible for his parents.

For maybe the first time, I agree with an entire post form Mensa...

There's more to it than that. I'm not at liberty to discuss it here, but I expect details about this situation are going to leak out. Just won't be from me. Although on the surface it does seem like a "normal' situation there's additional details about him that's eventually going to come out. And I will not be surprised if it points back to online consumption.

(09-12-2025 12:13 PM)tigergreen Wrote:  

(09-12-2025 12:02 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  

(09-12-2025 11:59 AM)BigTigerMike Wrote:  The leftists here and the so-called moderates like Tigergreen are in denial that a kid can become radicalized into far-left ideology despite their alleged upbringing. That’s what radicalization means—- a sudden change and shift

In the engineering department at Utah State?

...and only for one year before you drop out. I mean, OF COURSE 10 months in a conservative region's college will turn you into a sharp-shooting leftist assassin.

...thanks guys, for the reminder of why I no longer come on this board.
Was on to share the news of fsquid and poked around for the past several days, and it's devolved even more into a trump echo chamber.

Good luck, Mensa.

Seriously? You come to this side of the board with fly-by rock throwing and expect the people you throw rocks at the just lay back and say nothing?

Ummm…good freaking luck…the left are a strange bunch…

A 2023 peer-reviewed study from the Journal of Political Psychology found that ideological shifts in young adults, often influenced by college environments and surroundings, correlate with a 15% increase in family conflicts.

(09-12-2025 12:34 PM)CLTPirate Wrote:  Okay, let's say the kid is a left-wing radical, what does that mean for our country? Should we start a modern Red Scare by declaring war on and banning far-left organizations? Lock up leading radicals? Debate them into obscurity?

I have an idea! How about someone start an organization that goes to college campuses and has an open dialogue to discuss & debate all topics. Everyone can express their opinions and then everyone can make choices on what they think, in a peaceful manner. We can name it Turning Point. Surely no one on the left could argue with that concept or want to silence the free exchange of ideas & opinions.

(09-12-2025 12:41 PM)oruvoice Wrote:  

(09-12-2025 12:34 PM)CLTPirate Wrote:  Okay, let's say the kid is a left-wing radical, what does that mean for our country? Should we start a modern Red Scare by declaring war on and banning far-left organizations? Lock up leading radicals? Debate them into obscurity?

I have an idea! How about someone start an organization that goes to college campuses and has an open dialogue to discuss & debate all topics. Everyone can express their opinions and then everyone can make choices on what they think, in a peaceful manner. We can name it Turning Point. Surely no one on the left could argue with that concept or want to silence the free exchange of ideas & opinions.

Ever heard of Air America? It was during the Clinton era that the government started funding left leaning radio shows to combat the conservative ones.. Oddly enough it didn't last as it didn't have the ratings the government thought it would..

IF you say what I like, you're for democracy. If you say anything I don't like, it's hate speech you Nazi Fascist Magat and I hope you lose everything.

(09-12-2025 12:41 PM)oruvoice Wrote:  

(09-12-2025 12:34 PM)CLTPirate Wrote:  Okay, let's say the kid is a left-wing radical, what does that mean for our country? Should we start a modern Red Scare by declaring war on and banning far-left organizations? Lock up leading radicals? Debate them into obscurity?

I have an idea! How about someone start an organization that goes to college campuses and has an open dialogue to discuss & debate all topics. Everyone can express their opinions and then everyone can make choices on what they think, in a peaceful manner. We can name it Turning Point. Surely no one on the left could argue with that concept or want to silence the free exchange of ideas & opinions.

75 million people voted for Democrats last November, if a handful of them are lunatics, does this mean all peaceful discourse is over? Maybe the country is doomed

(09-12-2025 12:21 PM)gdunn Wrote:  

(09-12-2025 12:18 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  

(09-12-2025 12:04 PM)GeminiCoog Wrote:  

(09-12-2025 12:02 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  

(09-12-2025 11:59 AM)BigTigerMike Wrote:  The leftists here and the so-called moderates like Tigergreen are in denial that a kid can become radicalized into far-left ideology despite their alleged upbringing. That’s what radicalization means—- a sudden change and shift

At Utah State?

Texas A&M is probably the most famous ag school in the country, and it just fired both a teacher and a dean for stifling free speech. Tell me again how ag schools are somehow immune from left-wing administration and faculty spreading their ideology to college students.

Stifling free speech or having their free speech stifled? It sounds like Texas wants to micromanage collegiate curriculum like it’s high school and President Trump’s executive orders have zero legal standing in a state university. The school caved because it’s easier to stand up to the handful of liberals within the state legislature than it is to the conservatives. Its also why many educators within the state are leaving.

Tell me you don't understand the First Amendment by telling me you don't understand the First Amendment.

You can freely celebrate a man's death if you chose to and the US government cannot arrest you or punish you. However, your employer is a different story.

The firing at A&M had zero to do with Charlie Kirk.
Use need to save that talking point for a different firing…. I’ll give you a redo.

(09-12-2025 12:34 PM)CLTPirate Wrote:  Okay, let's say the kid is a left-wing radical, what does that mean for our country? Should we start a modern Red Scare by declaring war on and banning far-left organizations? Lock up leading radicals? Debate them into obscurity?

(09-12-2025 12:41 PM)oruvoice Wrote:  

(09-12-2025 12:34 PM)CLTPirate Wrote:  Okay, let's say the kid is a left-wing radical, what does that mean for our country? Should we start a modern Red Scare by declaring war on and banning far-left organizations? Lock up leading radicals? Debate them into obscurity?

I have an idea! How about someone start an organization that goes to college campuses and has an open dialogue to discuss & debate all topics. Everyone can express their opinions and then everyone can make choices on what they think, in a peaceful manner. We can name it Turning Point. Surely no one on the left could argue with that concept or want to silence the free exchange of ideas & opinions.

Brilliantly stated!

(09-12-2025 12:48 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  

(09-12-2025 12:21 PM)gdunn Wrote:  

(09-12-2025 12:18 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  

(09-12-2025 12:04 PM)GeminiCoog Wrote:  

(09-12-2025 12:02 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  At Utah State?

Texas A&M is probably the most famous ag school in the country, and it just fired both a teacher and a dean for stifling free speech. Tell me again how ag schools are somehow immune from left-wing administration and faculty spreading their ideology to college students.

Stifling free speech or having their free speech stifled? It sounds like Texas wants to micromanage collegiate curriculum like it’s high school and President Trump’s executive orders have zero legal standing in a state university. The school caved because it’s easier to stand up to the handful of liberals within the state legislature than it is to the conservatives. Its also why many educators within the state are leaving.

Tell me you don't understand the First Amendment by telling me you don't understand the First Amendment.

You can freely celebrate a man's death if you chose to and the US government cannot arrest you or punish you. However, your employer is a different story.

The firing at A&M had zero to do with Charlie Kirk.
Use need to save that talking point for a different firing…. I’ll give you a redo.

Use need?

Bubba, I'm sorry I assumed it was about Charlie Kirk considering this is in a Charlie Kirk thread, maybe context would help or an article. That is not on me, you got off topic.

(09-12-2025 12:36 PM)450bench Wrote:  

(09-12-2025 12:13 PM)tigergreen Wrote:  

(09-12-2025 12:02 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  

(09-12-2025 11:59 AM)BigTigerMike Wrote:  The leftists here and the so-called moderates like Tigergreen are in denial that a kid can become radicalized into far-left ideology despite their alleged upbringing. That’s what radicalization means—- a sudden change and shift

In the engineering department at Utah State?

...and only for one year before you drop out. I mean, OF COURSE 10 months in a conservative region's college will turn you into a sharp-shooting leftist assassin.

...thanks guys, for the reminder of why I no longer come on this board.
Was on to share the news of fsquid and poked around for the past several days, and it's devolved even more into a trump echo chamber.

Good luck, Mensa.

Seriously? You come to this side of the board with fly-by rock throwing and expect the people you throw rocks at the just lay back and say nothing?

Ummm…good freaking luck…the left are a strange bunch…

All leftists are the same. They're all stupid evil ********. They deserve nothing good in life. They deserve nothing but pain and misery. Screw them.