(06-26-2025 12:38 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(06-26-2025 12:26 PM)miko33 Wrote:  

(06-26-2025 11:29 AM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  

(06-26-2025 10:40 AM)miko33 Wrote:  

(06-26-2025 10:32 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

But this is what the trump administration does...trash the press...and continually attack the 1st Amendment. This should be concerning for those who claim to love The Constitution. Sadly, it doesn't appear to be.

None of what you just said was an attack on the first amendment.

Intimidation of the press, constantly attacking the press, limiting access of the press for asking questions you don’t like, etc are all tactics designed to control the press and limit free speech.

Do we truly have a free press if an editor has to go “we can’t run that story, or they will take away our access to the White House” or “we can’t ask that question, they will ban us from the pentagon press pool”.

Freedom of the press is a sign of a health democracy and our current administration seems to pride themselves on attacking and limiting press that they perceive as not “being on their side”. It is absolutely an attack on the first amendment, Trump banned the AP from the briefing room for not going along with his dumb “Gulf of America” stuff and a federal court had to restore their access on 1st amendment grounds.

Where were you when the press was refused access to the Biden routinely where normally the president would take questions immediately after a newsworthy event occurred that he/she was part of? Where were you when it was shown that the press were required to submit questions in advance that the WH would screen first and then pick and choose which questions they would answer per a script because Biden couldn't handle normal press conferences? Where were you when the press intentionally covered up reporting news about Biden's cognitive decline and actually attacking writers who reported the truth about Joe Biden and his senility? Where were you when the press told us that the Hunter Biden laptop stories were a hoax that was "likely" started by Russian agents? Where were you when we heard about the Russian election interference hoax that ended up being planted info from Hilary Clinton's campaign?

Regarding access to a press briefing room - are you saying that reporters DO NOT WRITE stories unless their question was answered specifically? From my understanding there was no rule that prevented any news outlet from writing a story or reporting on what the president said regardless of whether a news outlet had a body in the room with the president or not. The constitution had freedom of the press to do it's job before the first press conference ever happened: https://www.whitehousehistory.org/press-...s-timeline

I don't believe that Trump and his administration were the first people to criticize the press. Also, what I don't see happening is Pete Hegseth, Trump or anyone else from the administration calling for reporters to be taken out of the briefing rooms in handcuffs and jailed over a question. I also don't see media sites being shut down because they report stories that the government does not like.

Wait...at the rate things are going...it may not be long...

And puhleeze...the press was merciless in reporting on Biden's struggles. Where are you when they continually give trump a pass on his?

I think this rates as the most ridiculous post of the decade.

I'm not sure whether to give him positive rep for topping everyone else or negative rep for being so ridiculous!

There are tens of millions of Americans that live in an alternate reality. Exhibit A above.

(06-26-2025 04:13 PM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  

(06-26-2025 04:03 PM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote:  

(06-26-2025 02:54 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(06-26-2025 02:49 PM)ThreeifbyLightning Wrote:  

(06-26-2025 02:45 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Ridiculous.

You're in delusional denial. This absolutely happened. To the point where media cursed at and blackballed if they gave any hint of not cooperating with demands. Though most of course just blindly did what they were told.

Sure, Jan.

He aint wrong, you may be the single most delusional person I've ever run across if you believe even half of the garbage you regurgitate. Otherwise you're just a troll and not to be taken seriously.

He absolutely 100% knows he is full of it.

He is trying to up his game. I scolded him for losing his touch.

He believes none of that BS

(06-26-2025 08:58 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(06-26-2025 12:38 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(06-26-2025 12:26 PM)miko33 Wrote:  

(06-26-2025 11:29 AM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  

(06-26-2025 10:40 AM)miko33 Wrote:  None of what you just said was an attack on the first amendment.

Intimidation of the press, constantly attacking the press, limiting access of the press for asking questions you don’t like, etc are all tactics designed to control the press and limit free speech.

Do we truly have a free press if an editor has to go “we can’t run that story, or they will take away our access to the White House” or “we can’t ask that question, they will ban us from the pentagon press pool”.

Freedom of the press is a sign of a health democracy and our current administration seems to pride themselves on attacking and limiting press that they perceive as not “being on their side”. It is absolutely an attack on the first amendment, Trump banned the AP from the briefing room for not going along with his dumb “Gulf of America” stuff and a federal court had to restore their access on 1st amendment grounds.

Where were you when the press was refused access to the Biden routinely where normally the president would take questions immediately after a newsworthy event occurred that he/she was part of? Where were you when it was shown that the press were required to submit questions in advance that the WH would screen first and then pick and choose which questions they would answer per a script because Biden couldn't handle normal press conferences? Where were you when the press intentionally covered up reporting news about Biden's cognitive decline and actually attacking writers who reported the truth about Joe Biden and his senility? Where were you when the press told us that the Hunter Biden laptop stories were a hoax that was "likely" started by Russian agents? Where were you when we heard about the Russian election interference hoax that ended up being planted info from Hilary Clinton's campaign?

Regarding access to a press briefing room - are you saying that reporters DO NOT WRITE stories unless their question was answered specifically? From my understanding there was no rule that prevented any news outlet from writing a story or reporting on what the president said regardless of whether a news outlet had a body in the room with the president or not. The constitution had freedom of the press to do it's job before the first press conference ever happened: https://www.whitehousehistory.org/press-...s-timeline

I don't believe that Trump and his administration were the first people to criticize the press. Also, what I don't see happening is Pete Hegseth, Trump or anyone else from the administration calling for reporters to be taken out of the briefing rooms in handcuffs and jailed over a question. I also don't see media sites being shut down because they report stories that the government does not like.

Wait...at the rate things are going...it may not be long...

And puhleeze...the press was merciless in reporting on Biden's struggles. Where are you when they continually give trump a pass on his?

I think this rates as the most ridiculous post of the decade.

I'm not sure whether to give him positive rep for topping everyone else or negative rep for being so ridiculous!

There is no way Tom typed that with a straight face......nobody is that clueless

That post puts Tom in my Tanq category. I will never take him seriously again, and will never engage in serious dialogue with him. He is just too ridiculous for adult convo.

(06-26-2025 02:29 PM)GeminiCoog Wrote:  

(06-26-2025 02:25 PM)TripleA Wrote:  Reports this afternoon, coming from both the WH and other sources, say that there are no indications that any enriched uranium was moved out of Fordow before the bombing.

The trucks pictured there were apparently pouring concrete to reinforce the walls.

It wouldn't have made a difference anyway, given how powerful those bunker busters were. (I know you know that; this is for those who may not know.) Besides, it can take a while for concrete to cure (solidify), depending on how much they actually poured.

Likely just provided additional shrapnel to obliterate these facilities.

I was watching a little thumbnail of the interview with McGurk.

So, couldn’t tell how hard the VFNN hostesses were crying. Did any of them need a hankie or leave the set in grief?

Also wonder if they have their moving boxes started yet. Only a matter of time…

(06-26-2025 02:45 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(06-26-2025 12:45 PM)miko33 Wrote:  

(06-26-2025 12:43 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(06-26-2025 12:41 PM)miko33 Wrote:  

(06-26-2025 12:38 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Wait...at the rate things are going...it may not be long...

And puhleeze...the press was merciless in reporting on Biden's struggles. Where are you when they continually give trump a pass on his?

SOME of the press were - most were not. The major networks, CNN, MSNBC, NYT, WAPO, etc had anchors, reporters and journalists tell us Biden was "sharp as a tack" and that there were "cheap fakes" going around making Biden look bad...

Your memory sucks ass. And there's a VAST difference in those places having Biden surrogates on who were making those claims and on air folks saying he was.

Wrong. Plus the press dutifully read their scripted questions for Biden to answer - preselected by the WH of course - on those rare occasions Biden interacted with the press.

Ridiculous.

Are you kidding?

I guess you weren’t watching.

By the late days of the Max Headroom/Autopen regime they didn’t even try to hide it any longer.

Plenty of pics available in real time of crib notes, questions, reporters pics and names and etc.
Sloe* was getting lost in his own closet FFS.

Where ya been?

(06-26-2025 10:15 PM)TripleA Wrote:  That post puts Tom in my Tanq category. I will never take him seriously again, and will never engage in serious dialogue with him. He is just too ridiculous for adult convo.

Oh, geeez

You’ve now harkened The Beetlejuice. Did you intentionally use his name or has he taken control of your fingers and keyboard?

Buckle up! 2000 word essay likely incoming…

(06-26-2025 11:27 PM)JMUDunk Wrote:  

(06-26-2025 10:15 PM)TripleA Wrote:  That post puts Tom in my Tanq category. I will never take him seriously again, and will never engage in serious dialogue with him. He is just too ridiculous for adult convo.

Oh, geeez

You’ve now harkened The Beetlejuice. Did you intentionally use his name or has he taken control of your fingers and keyboard?

Buckle up! 2000 word essay likely incoming…

Guilty as charged.

Quote:According the Senator Chris Murphy, this is how far Iran has been from being able to make a nuclear weapon.

Before Obama's nuclear deal with Iran: 2-3 months

During the nuclear deal: 12+ months

After Trump pulled out of the nuclear deal until a few days ago: 2 months

After he found out about the strike: Iran was no where close to building a nuclear bomb.

Today: The strike didn't work. Iran is closer than ever to having a nuclear bomb.

Chris Murphy is a shameless liar.

Latest word from Fox. Those trucks were in fact concrete mixers, as the Iranians plugged up all the vent holes prior to our attack.

What we did was adjust and send the first bombs down to detonate the new concrete, so that the later bombs could go down the vents into the main rooms.

(06-27-2025 01:28 AM)TripleA Wrote:  

Quote:According the Senator Chris Murphy, this is how far Iran has been from being able to make a nuclear weapon.

Before Obama's nuclear deal with Iran: 2-3 months

During the nuclear deal: 12+ months

After Trump pulled out of the nuclear deal until a few days ago: 2 months

After he found out about the strike: Iran was no where close to building a nuclear bomb.

Today: The strike didn't work. Iran is closer than ever to having a nuclear bomb.

Chris Murphy is a shameless liar.

your tax dollars paid for that fuzzy math'd chart...

jfc ... these people are real, eh ... @pinchesSelf

(06-26-2025 11:20 PM)JMUDunk Wrote:  

(06-26-2025 02:45 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(06-26-2025 12:45 PM)miko33 Wrote:  

(06-26-2025 12:43 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(06-26-2025 12:41 PM)miko33 Wrote:  SOME of the press were - most were not. The major networks, CNN, MSNBC, NYT, WAPO, etc had anchors, reporters and journalists tell us Biden was "sharp as a tack" and that there were "cheap fakes" going around making Biden look bad...

Your memory sucks ass. And there's a VAST difference in those places having Biden surrogates on who were making those claims and on air folks saying he was.

Wrong. Plus the press dutifully read their scripted questions for Biden to answer - preselected by the WH of course - on those rare occasions Biden interacted with the press.

Ridiculous.

Are you kidding?

I guess you weren’t watching.

By the late days of the Max Headroom/Autopen regime they didn’t even try to hide it any longer.

Plenty of pics available in real time of crib notes, questions, reporters pics and names and etc.
Sloe* was getting lost in his own closet FFS.

Where ya been?

in joe billy's closet ...

The New York Times today continued its streak of not covering the facts about the performance of our armed forces because the facts would point to their outstanding ability and indirectly make Trump look good.

It is shameful and indefensible.

(06-27-2025 06:43 AM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  The New York Times today continued its streak of not covering the facts about the performance of our armed forces because the facts would point to their outstanding ability and indirectly make Trump look good.

It is shameful and indefensible.

And yet, the people running it don't care, because the "ORANGE MAN BAD! REEEEE! " agenda must be advanced at all cost.

Let 'em kill the rag once and for all.

(06-27-2025 06:43 AM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  The New York Times today continued its streak of not covering the facts about the performance of our armed forces because the facts would point to their outstanding ability and indirectly make Trump look good.

It is shameful and indefensible.

which only tells one they're beyond desperate for eyeballs...

this is their slowest of deaths ... like the telegraph and their pony boy express in the pizzeria ...

(06-27-2025 06:59 AM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(06-27-2025 06:43 AM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  The New York Times today continued its streak of not covering the facts about the performance of our armed forces because the facts would point to their outstanding ability and indirectly make Trump look good.

It is shameful and indefensible.

which only tells one they're beyond desperate for eyeballs...

this is their slowest of deaths ... like the telegraph and their pony boy express in the pizzeria ...

I just hope there's not a Do-Not-Resuscitate order. lol

The prog filth here don’t give two chits about freedom of speech or press access or press accuracy. What they care about and what matters to them most is the amount of fighting back they are encountering with this administration. Republicans are supposed to sit back and shut up when confronted with lies and liberal attacks. These guys ain’t playing by the script. And that’s the real sand in their cracks.

(06-27-2025 08:02 AM)Was SoMs Eagle Wrote:  The prog filth here don’t give two chits about freedom of speech or press access or press accuracy. What they care about and what matters to them most is the amount of fighting back they are encountering with this administration. Republicans are supposed to sit back and shut up when confronted with lies and liberal attacks. These guys ain’t playing by the script. And that’s the real sand in their cracks.

And it's about damn time for my party to fight back against the prog filth. I hope we're able to keep it up post-Trump.

(06-27-2025 08:03 AM)GeminiCoog Wrote:  

(06-27-2025 08:02 AM)Was SoMs Eagle Wrote:  The prog filth here don’t give two chits about freedom of speech or press access or press accuracy. What they care about and what matters to them most is the amount of fighting back they are encountering with this administration. Republicans are supposed to sit back and shut up when confronted with lies and liberal attacks. These guys ain’t playing by the script. And that’s the real sand in their cracks.

And it's about damn time for my party to fight back against the prog filth. I hope we're able to keep it up post-Trump.

JR is no Bush. There is a chance to keep the momentum.