Quote:REMINDER - TRUMP: “My message to every business in the world is simple. Come make your product in America and we will give you among the lowest taxes of any nation on earth.”

America needs to rid itself of the Made in China addiction. Time to build in the USA.

Luckily, trillions are already pouring in to make this happen. Businesses and retailers need to continue jumping on board. ??

(05-06-2025 01:03 AM)TripleA Wrote:  

the question becomes a quality issue ... all I see is trading shite for mo' shite...

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(05-06-2025 02:28 AM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(05-06-2025 01:03 AM)TripleA Wrote:  

the question becomes a quality issue ... all I see is trading shite for mo' shite...

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You need more coffee.

India was charging us 300% on imported cars. We were charging something like 10% to them. I'm sure these commodities had a similar imbalance.

That's the whole point of this exercise. Make what we charge each other the same, so our products have the same chance there that theirs do here.

We have been frozen out like that all over the world since WWII ended.

I bet if they had slapped 300% on ganja, you would have paid more attention, lol.

(05-06-2025 02:41 AM)TripleA Wrote:  

(05-06-2025 02:28 AM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(05-06-2025 01:03 AM)TripleA Wrote:  

the question becomes a quality issue ... all I see is trading shite for mo' shite...

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You need more coffee.

India was charging us 300% on imported cars. We were charging something like 10% to them. I'm sure these commodities had a similar imbalance.

That's the whole point of this exercise. Make what we charge each other the same, so our products have the same chance there that theirs do here.

we'll see ... need more info...

I inherited Sarbanes/Oxley and the advent of HR as real thingys... oh yeah, nuts played in the corpshite sandbox a bit ago ...

Stink, look at it this way...No way in hell this is gonna make it WORSE, lol.

Remember, we are the world's largest consumer market, by far, and if they don't play fair, Trump can keep whacking them until they cry uncle. If they don't crack, somebody will pop up in the US and kick their Brahman butts.

This is the long game, not some sissy little patty cake hand slapping

(05-06-2025 02:49 AM)TripleA Wrote:  Stink, look at it this way...No way in hell this is gonna make it WORSE, lol.

Remember, we are the world's largest consumer market, by far, and if they don't play fair, Trump can keep whacking them until they cry uncle. If they don't crack, somebody will pop up in the US and kick their Brahman butts.

This is the long game, not some sissy little patty cake hand slapping

I've been solid/consistent as a tariff fan for a variety of reasons (also saw the destruction of real steel vs. shite steel) ... #s will back me on that one (he and I 'battled' with that during "don't underestimate the donald --->>> #henceDJT)

I've just recently unleashed the premise/reasoning behind #equilibrium #hemisphericalDivide ... it's complicated ... and a bbs isn't the place for diatribes they write books about...

trust me, if shite, I'd rather it be made on this side of the hemisphere ... there's all kinds of untapped potential (and potent potables) due south of our border, Ja!!

We won WWI and II because we were MAKING the things we needed to fight the wars. If a war broke out we would be dependent on the nations we would be fighting with. For instance, look at the steel industry. How long would it take to start a certain plant? If bringing in the goods to be made here we are already ahead of the game. We didn't need Chinese or other nations steel to build our shipping plus the worlds greatest skyscrapers, they were built here thus providing needed high paying jobs. That's one reason wive remained at home. Nothing says it can't happen again.

Royal Enfield and Tata about to make bank.

(05-06-2025 09:40 AM)olliebaba Wrote:  We won WWI and II because we were MAKING the things we needed to fight the wars. If a war broke out we would be dependent on the nations we would be fighting with. For instance, look at the steel industry. How long would it take to start a certain plant? If bringing in the goods to be made here we are already ahead of the game. We didn't need Chinese or other nations steel to build our shipping plus the worlds greatest skyscrapers, they were built here thus providing needed high paying jobs. That's one reason wive remained at home. Nothing says it can't happen again.

What we need now that absolutely should be made locally are high quality computer chips. That's why China has a hard on right now for Taiwan. They've always wanted them, but now it's a matter of more than a gateway to the Pacific. Now it's about denying the U.S. high quality chips. South Africa was about space alloys. Taiwan is about guidance systems.

With drones and exit reentry unmanned aircraft even a surface fleet may become somewhat obsolete. There will always be need of boots and eyes on the ground, but the Air Force and Navy as we have known it will be the logistical support for the future more than a main strike force. Are we there yet? None of us will know until the need for the next generation weaponry mandates it. Meanwhile all of our emphasis needs to be on internal supply of all necessities to prosecute and win the next war. We need a secret & secured grid with no internet access, and we need it yesterday.

(05-06-2025 10:36 AM)JRsec Wrote:  

(05-06-2025 09:40 AM)olliebaba Wrote:  We won WWI and II because we were MAKING the things we needed to fight the wars. If a war broke out we would be dependent on the nations we would be fighting with. For instance, look at the steel industry. How long would it take to start a certain plant? If bringing in the goods to be made here we are already ahead of the game. We didn't need Chinese or other nations steel to build our shipping plus the worlds greatest skyscrapers, they were built here thus providing needed high paying jobs. That's one reason wive remained at home. Nothing says it can't happen again.

What we need now that absolutely should be made locally are high quality computer chips. That's why China has a hard on right now for Taiwan. They've always wanted them, but now it's a matter of more than a gateway to the Pacific. Now it's about denying the U.S. high quality chips. South Africa was about space alloys. Taiwan is about guidance systems.

With drones and exit reentry unmanned aircraft even a surface fleet may become somewhat obsolete. There will always be need of boots and eyes on the ground, but the Air Force and Navy as we have known it will be the logistical support for the future more than a main strike force. Are we there yet? None of us will know until the need for the next generation weaponry mandates it. Meanwhile all of our emphasis needs to be on internal supply of all necessities to prosecute and win the next war. We need a secret & secured grid with no internet access, and we need it yesterday.

Yes this - the Computer / accessory group is a critical need for production in the US. Steel as well. Just based on consumption.

There are a lot of "creature comforts" that like clothes and other apparel that are not critical, they are just nice to have.

(05-06-2025 10:19 AM)shere khan Wrote:  Royal Enfield and Tata about to make bank.

if Tata were allowed in the US, they'd be making a mint. Their little trucks are tough

I've never heard of either of them. Who makes those and what do they look like?

Royal Enfield is motorcycles, Tata is a car manufacturer with a large range of vehicles (cab-over OTR freight trucks, municipal buses, small trucks, bongo trucks, vans, electric cars, SUV's and sedans)

(05-06-2025 10:50 AM)olliebaba Wrote:  I've never heard of either of them. Who makes those and what do they look like?

I think they make the Land Rover? At least their SUVs look like a Land Rover.

US Manufacturers Overwhelmed
American manufacturers are experiencing a surge in orders following President Donald Trump's imposition of tariffs on Chinese goods, including a 145% levy. This has made American-made products more competitive in the market, leading to an increase in demand and production for many small and medium manufacturers. Companies like Jergens Inc., a midwestern toolmaker, are operating at full capacity, running 24 hours a day, seven days a week, to meet the influx of orders.

Grand River Rubber & Plastics, a plastics and rubber manufacturer in Ohio, has seen customers who previously offshored to China reversing their decisions. The company has received orders from two buyers who left years ago and two new oil filter manufacturers, potentially adding $5 million annually to its revenue.

SafeSource Direct, a Louisiana-based medical products manufacturer, has also seen a boost in orders. The company has increased its production lines from two to eight, each making over 20,000 rubber gloves an hour. Executives at SafeSource predict that as domestic production ramps up, costs will decrease significantly, bringing prices closer to Asian levels.

Despite the surge in orders, there are concerns about the potential impact of tariffs on American consumers. While President Trump insists that prices will fall, economists and politicians warn that the tariffs could sharply raise costs for consumers.

Additionally, recent data shows that new orders for manufactured durable goods in March increased by 9.2% to $315.7 billion, following a 0.9% increase in February.

In summary, the surge in orders for American manufacturers is a significant development, with companies ramping up production and hiring new workers to meet the increased demand.

(05-02-2025 07:14 PM)TripleA Wrote:  Just that action will put a crimp on China. They will have to find additional markets to absorb the losses. TEMU is like Amazon.

Not really. TEMU is a collection tool for the Chinese govt. It's a national security risk and frankly I would be fine if it and Tiktok were permanently banned. It's unclear whether this recent move would or wouldn't impact China's non-traditional collection methods.

(05-06-2025 03:04 AM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(05-06-2025 02:49 AM)TripleA Wrote:  Stink, look at it this way...No way in hell this is gonna make it WORSE, lol.

Remember, we are the world's largest consumer market, by far, and if they don't play fair, Trump can keep whacking them until they cry uncle. If they don't crack, somebody will pop up in the US and kick their Brahman butts.

This is the long game, not some sissy little patty cake hand slapping

I've been solid/consistent as a tariff fan for a variety of reasons (also saw the destruction of real steel vs. shite steel) ... #s will back me on that one (he and I 'battled' with that during "don't underestimate the donald --->>> #henceDJT)

I've just recently unleashed the premise/reasoning behind #equilibrium #hemisphericalDivide ... it's complicated ... and a bbs isn't the place for diatribes they write books about...

trust me, if shite, I'd rather it be made on this side of the hemisphere ... there's all kinds of untapped potential (and potent potables) due south of our border, Ja!!

Remember when Snap-On tools didn't break and passed on for generations?

God, is this guy an embarrassment. Dumbest president ever, by far.