(04-03-2025 07:13 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(04-03-2025 07:02 AM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote:  Remember back when WalMart slapped itself on the back because they only sold American made products?

Yeah...that never happened...not a thing. They never claimed to only sell American made products. They used to highlight those items that WERE American made in their stores and advertising, but they dropped that in like 2015 because people were finding items that weren't only American made.

I think Sam Walton had intended this when he started it, but that never materialized for obvious reasons.

Yeah I should have said they focused extensively on selling only American made products when possible. Now they don't even pretend to do that.

(04-03-2025 07:19 AM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote:  

(04-03-2025 07:17 AM)VA49er Wrote:  I have no issue charging other nations what they are charging us. Only seems fair to me.

Unless you're a democrat marxist.

Yeah, I don't get all the faux leftist outrage.

As far as the market downturn, I always buy during market downturns. It's a strategy that has never failed me.

(04-02-2025 10:08 PM)BigTigerMike Wrote:  U.S. is no longer playing defense on trade. These countries can’t afford to lose U.S. market access.

Trade imbalances mostly hurt the US. We import far more than we export - especially when it comes to the consumables (not just food, but stuff - everything from electronics to clothes).

Again - I will pay more for AMERICAN MADE - it may take a little while to get those things MADE in America again, but we need to take our control back.


I watched some story about this Dress shop owner complaining that her Wedding Dresses were ALL MADE IN CHINA and this is gonna hurt her business.

Buy American Made and tell everyone that is what you do - you will win in the end.

(04-02-2025 12:18 AM)BlueDragon Wrote:  

(04-01-2025 12:45 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  And Israeli farmers rejoice!!! Well.....

Quote:The Israel Farmers’ Federation lambasts the Finance Ministry’s decision to immediately scrap remaining tariffs on US goods, mainly in agriculture, against the backdrop of US President donald trump’s plans to slap trade partners with tit for tat duties.

Amit Yifrach, who chairs the federation and serves as Secretary General of the Moshav Movement, and Uri Dorman, the federation’s secretary general, say in a joint statement, “This is a step that will bring disaster to local agriculture.”

They add, “There is no doubt that trade relations with the US are important and appropriate, but we must ensure that we do not throw the baby out with the bathwater, harming food security and national security.”

Israeli farmers lambast Finance Ministry for scrapping duties on US imports to avoid trump’s tariffs

And meanwhile....

Quote:China, South Korea and Japan agreed Sunday to strengthen free trade in the face of a raft of new tariffs imposed by US President donald trump.

The agreement came at a meeting of top trade officials – the first at that level in five years – days ahead of the start of tariffs on a huge range of US imports, including cars, trucks, and auto parts.

South Korea and Japan are major auto exporters, while China has also been hit hard by the US tariffs.

The meeting was attended by South Korea's industry minister Ahn Duk-geun, his Japanese counterpart Yoji Muto, and China's Wang Wentao.

The three countries called for their negotiations for a comprehensive trilateral free-trade agreement to be speeded up, and agreed to create "a predictable trade and investment environment", a statement said.

China, South Korea and Japan agree to strengthen trade ties in response to trump tariffs

Tommy I say this with all honesty and conviction

When I started my business in 1991, 98% of everything I sold was American made.

Today 0% of everything I sell is American made.

Trust me I’m not an anomaly. My business is a microcosm of American Industry or lack there of.

I’ve watched American workers and factories shutter while politicians enriched themselves at average worker’s expense. Companies I personally sourced products btw quality products from had to close their doors because politicians allowed cheap garbage to be dumped by the shiploads with little if any tariffs. The same countries have not and never will allow us the same rights.

Go look up tariffs of the countries we trade with. If you cannot see or understand the imbalance you are beyond help.

1929 eating out dumpsters won’t help you

Something has to give before we collapse economically

Do you have any clue how the Russian Ruble collapsed?

A Russian had saved his whole life. Enough money to fill up the bed of a pickup truck and it became worthless overnight .

I believe our politicians have already stolen all the gold in Ft Knox. They have wasted our wealth for kickbacks and bribes.

If Trump or someone else doesn’t do the MOST UNPOPULAR move to save our economy we won’t last to see 2035.

All the cuts to government bureaucrats won’t help if you depend on other nations to produce everything even your fruits and vegetables

Several great economist have already written books about our day of reckoning saying no politician will try to tackle it.

So, we have a one term President who at the very least is making an attempt but if spoiled Americans don’t want the inconvenience now they can pay with absolute misery later.

And, I was always told growing up It’s later than you think.

Interesting that Tom did not respond to your post.

(04-03-2025 07:25 AM)No Bull Wrote:  

(04-02-2025 12:18 AM)BlueDragon Wrote:  

(04-01-2025 12:45 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  And Israeli farmers rejoice!!! Well.....

Quote:The Israel Farmers’ Federation lambasts the Finance Ministry’s decision to immediately scrap remaining tariffs on US goods, mainly in agriculture, against the backdrop of US President donald trump’s plans to slap trade partners with tit for tat duties.

Amit Yifrach, who chairs the federation and serves as Secretary General of the Moshav Movement, and Uri Dorman, the federation’s secretary general, say in a joint statement, “This is a step that will bring disaster to local agriculture.”

They add, “There is no doubt that trade relations with the US are important and appropriate, but we must ensure that we do not throw the baby out with the bathwater, harming food security and national security.”

Israeli farmers lambast Finance Ministry for scrapping duties on US imports to avoid trump’s tariffs

And meanwhile....

Quote:China, South Korea and Japan agreed Sunday to strengthen free trade in the face of a raft of new tariffs imposed by US President donald trump.

The agreement came at a meeting of top trade officials – the first at that level in five years – days ahead of the start of tariffs on a huge range of US imports, including cars, trucks, and auto parts.

South Korea and Japan are major auto exporters, while China has also been hit hard by the US tariffs.

The meeting was attended by South Korea's industry minister Ahn Duk-geun, his Japanese counterpart Yoji Muto, and China's Wang Wentao.

The three countries called for their negotiations for a comprehensive trilateral free-trade agreement to be speeded up, and agreed to create "a predictable trade and investment environment", a statement said.

China, South Korea and Japan agree to strengthen trade ties in response to trump tariffs

Tommy I say this with all honesty and conviction

When I started my business in 1991, 98% of everything I sold was American made.

Today 0% of everything I sell is American made.

Trust me I’m not an anomaly. My business is a microcosm of American Industry or lack there of.

I’ve watched American workers and factories shutter while politicians enriched themselves at average worker’s expense. Companies I personally sourced products btw quality products from had to close their doors because politicians allowed cheap garbage to be dumped by the shiploads with little if any tariffs. The same countries have not and never will allow us the same rights.

Go look up tariffs of the countries we trade with. If you cannot see or understand the imbalance you are beyond help.

1929 eating out dumpsters won’t help you

Something has to give before we collapse economically

Do you have any clue how the Russian Ruble collapsed?

A Russian had saved his whole life. Enough money to fill up the bed of a pickup truck and it became worthless overnight .

I believe our politicians have already stolen all the gold in Ft Knox. They have wasted our wealth for kickbacks and bribes.

If Trump or someone else doesn’t do the MOST UNPOPULAR move to save our economy we won’t last to see 2035.

All the cuts to government bureaucrats won’t help if you depend on other nations to produce everything even your fruits and vegetables

Several great economist have already written books about our day of reckoning saying no politician will try to tackle it.

So, we have a one term President who at the very least is making an attempt but if spoiled Americans don’t want the inconvenience now they can pay with absolute misery later.

And, I was always told growing up It’s later than you think.

Interesting that Tom did not respond to your post.

He had to submit this one to the higher ups - they are still crafting a response for him.


I can handle this for him....

ORANGE MAN BAD - HE IS IN ONLY THIS FOR HIMSELF - REEEEEEEEEE

(04-03-2025 07:17 AM)VA49er Wrote:  I have no issue charging other nations what they are charging us. Only seems fair to me.

You know this doesn't do that, at all, right?

(04-03-2025 07:41 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(04-03-2025 07:17 AM)VA49er Wrote:  I have no issue charging other nations what they are charging us. Only seems fair to me.

You know this doesn't do that, at all, right?

lulz

(04-03-2025 07:41 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(04-03-2025 07:17 AM)VA49er Wrote:  I have no issue charging other nations what they are charging us. Only seems fair to me.

You know this doesn't do that, at all, right?

Correct, in some cases they still aren't as much as the tariffs placed on our products. Furthermore leftists who supported Harris have no standing to complain on this as she was proposing higher corporate taxes and taxes on unrealized capital gains both of which would have more inflationary impact than tariffs.

(04-03-2025 07:47 AM)UofMstateU Wrote:  

(04-03-2025 07:41 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(04-03-2025 07:17 AM)VA49er Wrote:  I have no issue charging other nations what they are charging us. Only seems fair to me.

You know this doesn't do that, at all, right?

lulz

You can't even spell reciprocal. Take a seat.

(04-03-2025 07:49 AM)bearcat65 Wrote:  

(04-03-2025 07:41 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(04-03-2025 07:17 AM)VA49er Wrote:  I have no issue charging other nations what they are charging us. Only seems fair to me.

You know this doesn't do that, at all, right?

Correct, in some cases they still aren't as much as the tariffs placed on our products. Furthermore leftists who supported Harris have no standing to complain on this as she was proposing higher corporate taxes and taxes on unrealized capital gains both of which would have more inflationary impact than tariffs.

Not these tariffs!

I saw my S&P 500 index fund actually increase from yesterday. It could change today (like any day), but I am surprised nevertheless given the gloom and doom from the media.

Thailand was slapped with 36% in reciprocal duties, according to a chart shared by U.S. President Donald Trump on Wednesday.

Chunhavajira added that Bangkok will hike imports of U.S. goods and remove tariffs on certain U.S. products, among other steps taken to sustain exports. Thai exports to the U.S. amounted to $55.11 billion in 2024.

Its working.

Also, crude oil is down 6% today as Opec increases production.

(04-03-2025 08:03 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(04-03-2025 07:49 AM)bearcat65 Wrote:  

(04-03-2025 07:41 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(04-03-2025 07:17 AM)VA49er Wrote:  I have no issue charging other nations what they are charging us. Only seems fair to me.

You know this doesn't do that, at all, right?

Correct, in some cases they still aren't as much as the tariffs placed on our products. Furthermore leftists who supported Harris have no standing to complain on this as she was proposing higher corporate taxes and taxes on unrealized capital gains both of which would have more inflationary impact than tariffs.

Not these tariffs!

You have to be able to think for yourself and not rely on what you are told. Taxing corporations is going to raise the price of every product including those made here. Raising corporate taxes incentivizes corporations to move to countries with lower corporate taxes. Tariff impacts are going to impact products from overseas with the impact varying depending on that countries tariffs on us. That would incentivize companies to move back here.

I understand tariffs are a tax, but something must be done to address the pervasive and destructive impact on many American citizens of barriers of trade (including tariffs) placed by other counties.

Tariffs, however, do not have same impact on everyone. Some people (especially those with steady or well paying jobs, or healthy retirement funds), will have increased costs, but others (especially those gaining higher paying jobs due to tariffs) will be better off financially.

I would prefer free trade without barriers among friendly nations except for items needed for national security, but now we are taken advantage of by other countries.

Trade imbalance an issue. It should be a problem addressed in a bipartisan manner. No one has a monopoly on good ideas and a powerful strength of our Republic is free and open debate. Unfortunately, the Dem's blinded by hate and erosion of their power, completely oppose everything proposed by Trump with no attempt to engage or offer a better plan.

(04-03-2025 08:12 AM)bearcat65 Wrote:  

(04-03-2025 08:03 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(04-03-2025 07:49 AM)bearcat65 Wrote:  

(04-03-2025 07:41 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(04-03-2025 07:17 AM)VA49er Wrote:  I have no issue charging other nations what they are charging us. Only seems fair to me.

You know this doesn't do that, at all, right?

Correct, in some cases they still aren't as much as the tariffs placed on our products. Furthermore leftists who supported Harris have no standing to complain on this as she was proposing higher corporate taxes and taxes on unrealized capital gains both of which would have more inflationary impact than tariffs.

Not these tariffs!

You have to be able to think for yourself and not rely on what you are told. Taxing corporations is going to raise the price of every product including those made here. Raising corporate taxes incentivizes corporations to move to countries with lower corporate taxes. Tariff impacts are going to impact products from overseas with the impact varying depending on that countries tariffs on us. That would incentivize companies to move back here.

Regulations with costs greater than their benefits are a form of tax, also, in the sense they make things cost more than necessary.

(04-03-2025 08:22 AM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  

(04-03-2025 08:12 AM)bearcat65 Wrote:  

(04-03-2025 08:03 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(04-03-2025 07:49 AM)bearcat65 Wrote:  

(04-03-2025 07:41 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  You know this doesn't do that, at all, right?

Correct, in some cases they still aren't as much as the tariffs placed on our products. Furthermore leftists who supported Harris have no standing to complain on this as she was proposing higher corporate taxes and taxes on unrealized capital gains both of which would have more inflationary impact than tariffs.

Not these tariffs!

You have to be able to think for yourself and not rely on what you are told. Taxing corporations is going to raise the price of every product including those made here. Raising corporate taxes incentivizes corporations to move to countries with lower corporate taxes. Tariff impacts are going to impact products from overseas with the impact varying depending on that countries tariffs on us. That would incentivize companies to move back here.

Regulations with costs greater than their benefits are a form of tax, also, in the sense they make things cost more than necessary.

Absolutely. We also kneecapped ourselves during Biden's term with his New Green Deal veer which caused energy prices to spike. It makes no sense to shutter our coal plants, which burn cleaner than China's, just to turn around and sell China the coal to run all the coal plants they are currently building.

(04-03-2025 08:20 AM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  Unfortunately, the Dem's blinded by hate and erosion of their power, completely oppose everything proposed by Trump with no attempt to engage or offer a better plan.

We finally found a tax increase that Dems dont like

(04-02-2025 10:28 PM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  Per AI inquiry:

Key Examples of Tariffs Charged on U.S. Exports
China
Cars: 25% (compared to the U.S. charging 2.5% on Chinese cars).

Agricultural Goods: Average of 15% (U.S. charges 5% on Chinese agricultural imports).

General Average: Posts on X and some analyses suggest China’s tariffs on U.S. goods average around 20-25%, with specific retaliatory tariffs (e.g., from the 2018 trade war) reaching up to 67% on certain products like motorcycles or whiskey.

European Union (EU)
Cars: 10% (U.S. charges 2.5% on EU cars).

Agricultural Goods: Average of 11% (U.S. charges 5%).

Motorcycles: Around 6%, though retaliatory tariffs from Trump’s first term raised rates on U.S. motorcycles (e.g., Harley-Davidson) to 31% temporarily.

General Average: The EU’s trade-weighted average tariff on U.S. goods is often cited around 5-10%, but specific sectors face higher rates.

Canada
Agricultural Goods: Average of 15% (U.S. charges 5%).

Dairy Products: Up to 270% on milk, 245% on cheese, 298% on butter (highly protected sectors).

Cars: 25% (pre-USMCA, now largely 0% under the agreement, though retaliatory tariffs of 25% were imposed in 2025 on $20.7 billion of U.S. goods like orange juice and coffee in response to U.S. actions).

General Note: Before recent escalations, most goods were tariff-free under USMCA, but historical and retaliatory rates are higher.

Mexico
Agricultural Goods: Average of 14% (U.S. charges 5%).

General Average: Mexico’s tariffs on U.S. goods were minimal under USMCA until recent U.S. tariffs prompted threats of retaliation (details pending as of April 2, 2025).

India
Agricultural Goods: Average of 39% (U.S. charges 5%).

Motorcycles: 100% historically, reduced to 30-40% in 2018 (U.S. charges 2.4%).

Whiskey: 150%, lowered to 100% in February 2025 after U.S. pressure.

General Average: India’s tariffs on U.S. goods are among the highest, often cited around 26-39% trade-weighted.

Japan
General Average: Around 24% reciprocal rate suggested in 2025 U.S. policy, implying Japan’s tariffs on U.S. goods are roughly double that (48% estimated by U.S. calculations).

Agricultural Goods: Historically high on specific items (e.g., rice at 778%), though most industrial goods face lower rates under trade agreements.

Honestly, I was not aware of the extent of the inequity of tariffs placed by other countries. They bend us over and have their way - at least until now.

Thanks Captain Obvious.

Still, FOOLS will listen to MSM and Politicians. Both known for their accuracy honesty and integrity.

Politicians will block Trumps efforts because he is getting into their back pockets.

(04-03-2025 08:09 AM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  I saw my S&P 500 index fund actually increase from yesterday. It could change today (like any day), but I am surprised nevertheless given the gloom and doom from the media.

Because he waited until the markets were basically closed to make his announcement. The futures over night immediately tanked.

(04-03-2025 08:12 AM)bearcat65 Wrote:  

(04-03-2025 08:03 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(04-03-2025 07:49 AM)bearcat65 Wrote:  

(04-03-2025 07:41 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(04-03-2025 07:17 AM)VA49er Wrote:  I have no issue charging other nations what they are charging us. Only seems fair to me.

You know this doesn't do that, at all, right?

Correct, in some cases they still aren't as much as the tariffs placed on our products. Furthermore leftists who supported Harris have no standing to complain on this as she was proposing higher corporate taxes and taxes on unrealized capital gains both of which would have more inflationary impact than tariffs.

Not these tariffs!

You have to be able to think for yourself and not rely on what you are told. Taxing corporations is going to raise the price of every product including those made here. Raising corporate taxes incentivizes corporations to move to countries with lower corporate taxes. Tariff impacts are going to impact products from overseas with the impact varying depending on that countries tariffs on us. That would incentivize companies to move back here.

No ****, sherlock. But nowhere close to this extent...at least the economists think. The way he's going about this is so chaotic they can't even begin to calculate how bad this will be.

Tariffs can achieve what you're talking about when they're targeted...like we always have done. But blanket nonsense like this all at once, is incredibly stupid and reckless. Not to mention there's WAY more than just material costs factoring into decisions as to why companies diversify into other countries.