Its time to make a deal with Russia

Zelinsky is a weasel globohomo puppet and the EU and NATO can go frick themselves.

Go Russia. Frick Europe. They hate us and rob us.

Rumor is Zelensky is crawfishing again. Must have gotten another coke bump. Dude is s lunatic.

But. Here is the good news. The FO is happening





Sorry slavicucks

Not really

https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blo...ore-269820


'President Trump paused the drone and missile “targeting system” being used by CIA and Ukraine partners; that’s what the “intelligence sharing” factually consists of. Why don’t they use the term “targeting system”?… Because if they did, they would be admitting the USA has been the military/IC operation firing missiles and drones against Russia.'


If yall aint figured this shiteshow out by now I cant help you.

This has got to end

(03-02-2025 05:45 PM)Was SoMs Eagle Wrote:  Trump said he would end the war in a day. Didn’t happen. Where I was wrong was thinking that Trump would put some pressure on Putin. For some unknown reason he has decided to snuggle up to Putin. There is no argument to be made otherwise. His declaration that Ukraine started the war and Zelinsky was the dictator was the defining moment. Then the revelation that he wanted to enter into economic ties with Putin was the door slamming on Ukraine. Fine and good. Now all you Putintards should go batchit crazy if another dime goes to Ukraine.

Don’t know how this will end, unlike some here who believe they are smarter than everyone else, but I don’t believe it will be a great win for the USA in the end.

What are you talking about a win for the USA?

Let’s review

1. US promoted a proxy war with Russia at the expense of Ukraine young men
2. US used proxy war for Politicians and Defense Contractors to make money LBJ laid the blueprint just replicate
3. US Politicians did their damage best Vietnam style war. Give enough weapons to hang on by a thread but make sure you NEVER GIVE THEM THE FULL WEIGHT OF OUR WEAPONRY TO ACTUALLY WIN
4. US Politicians nor does Ukraine have any clear objectives
5. Everything else SEMANTICS

There was never going to be a win. It was propaganda to make money.

Russia would be donkey stomped by a halfass German army. If Germany builds a 200k man military. Russia thoughts on moving west die instantly.

For the life of me i cannot wrap my mind around those who are blaming Trump.

This Zelenskyy clown appears to be stoic, has flat affect or simply has no compassion for those dying in large numbers

Finally Don’t give me Russia the Great they are still stuck in the 1960s in every facet of life including their military

Japan or a renewed Germany scares me a lot more than China or Russia

(03-05-2025 09:18 PM)shere khan Wrote:  https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blo...ore-269820


'President Trump paused the drone and missile “targeting system” being used by CIA and Ukraine partners; that’s what the “intelligence sharing” factually consists of. Why don’t they use the term “targeting system”?… Because if they did, they would be admitting the USA has been the military/IC operation firing missiles and drones against Russia.'


If yall aint figured this shiteshow out by now I cant help you.

This has got to end

Yes, it certainly does. This war never should have started in the first place.

(03-06-2025 01:15 AM)BlueDragon Wrote:  Russia would be donkey stomped by a halfass German army. If Germany builds a 200k man military. Russia thoughts on moving west die instantly.

Collectively, the EU dwarfs Russia in every metric except nuclear arms, and even there, France and the UK possess sufficient nuclear capabilities to deter aggression.

There is no reason Europe cannot defend itself with the USA playing a secondary role, but why would they when the American taxpayer foots the bill?

(03-04-2025 12:55 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(03-04-2025 12:48 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(03-04-2025 12:03 PM)WalkThePlank Wrote:  

(03-04-2025 11:37 AM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  

(03-04-2025 10:41 AM)TripleA Wrote:  We don't have to ignore Article 5. Ukraine is not a NATO country, so we have no obligation to join in a war.

If UK troops are attacked in Ukraine article 5 doesn’t apply.

If Russia bombs London Article 5 does apply because it’s within the territory of NATO.

If the scenario listed above were to occur, there’s practically zero chance that Russia wouldn’t respond in an act of war from NATO countries by not attacking their actual territory.

It would almost certainly happen.

Ignorance of history is not a virtue.

Russian and US fighter pilots were in dogfights in Korea. We fought the Chinese. Russians were in Vietnam. In none of those cases did the fighting extend beyond Vietnam or Korea into the US, China or Russia.

Russian and German troops fought each other in the Spanish Civil War. Yet they were allies in overrunning Poland at the start of WWII.

Russian troops fired at our people in Syria. We fired back and killed Russians. That didn't extend to Russia or the US.

We also haven't been in a war directly with Iran despite all that has gone on.

To me its most similar to Vietnam---except the Russians are in the same position as the US was in Vietnam (Russia actually has men on the ground fighting in another country) and the US is in Russia's Vietnam role (we are just sending weapons and supplies).

Russians had their commando forces in Vietnam as well as military advisors

(03-06-2025 09:44 AM)BlueDragon Wrote:  

(03-04-2025 12:55 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(03-04-2025 12:48 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(03-04-2025 12:03 PM)WalkThePlank Wrote:  

(03-04-2025 11:37 AM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  If UK troops are attacked in Ukraine article 5 doesn’t apply.

If Russia bombs London Article 5 does apply because it’s within the territory of NATO.

If the scenario listed above were to occur, there’s practically zero chance that Russia wouldn’t respond in an act of war from NATO countries by not attacking their actual territory.

It would almost certainly happen.

Ignorance of history is not a virtue.

Russian and US fighter pilots were in dogfights in Korea. We fought the Chinese. Russians were in Vietnam. In none of those cases did the fighting extend beyond Vietnam or Korea into the US, China or Russia.

Russian and German troops fought each other in the Spanish Civil War. Yet they were allies in overrunning Poland at the start of WWII.

Russian troops fired at our people in Syria. We fired back and killed Russians. That didn't extend to Russia or the US.

We also haven't been in a war directly with Iran despite all that has gone on.

To me its most similar to Vietnam---except the Russians are in the same position as the US was in Vietnam (Russia actually has men on the ground fighting in another country) and the US is in Russia's Vietnam role (we are just sending weapons and supplies).

Russians had their commando forces in Vietnam as well as military advisors

That went swimmingly

(03-06-2025 07:44 AM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  

(03-06-2025 01:15 AM)BlueDragon Wrote:  Russia would be donkey stomped by a halfass German army. If Germany builds a 200k man military. Russia thoughts on moving west die instantly.

Collectively, the EU dwarfs Russia in every metric except nuclear arms, and even there, France and the UK possess sufficient nuclear capabilities to deter aggression.

There is no reason Europe cannot defend itself with the USA playing a secondary role, but why would they when the American taxpayer foots the bill?

The UK & France are floating the idea to arm Germany with Nukes. I find this quite humorous to say the least. Without German Scientists who knows how much longer it would have taken for mankind to achieve this type of weaponry.

(03-04-2025 01:29 PM)b2b Wrote:  

(03-04-2025 12:48 PM)bullet Wrote:  Ignorance of history is not a virtue.

Russian and US fighter pilots were in dogfights in Korea. We fought the Chinese. Russians were in Vietnam. In none of those cases did the fighting extend beyond Vietnam or Korea into the US, China or Russia.

Russian and German troops fought each other in the Spanish Civil War. Yet they were allies in overrunning Poland at the start of WWII.

Russian troops fired at our people in Syria. We fired back and killed Russians. That didn't extend to Russia or the US.

We also haven't been in a war directly with Iran despite all that has gone on.

What's any of that got to do with the Ukraine situation? The USSR basically saved eastern Europe's ass in WW2. Japan got nuked twice. Now they're an ally. Germany killed 6M Jews now they're basically the leaders of the EU w/ the UK. Things change. Dumb things happen.

Why don't you send your kids over there to fight the Russians since they're so horrible?

This thinking is delusional. Russia‘s Azz was saved by a very harsh winter and US intervention.

Russia would have steamrolled all of Europe if given an opportunity

Are you kidding me Stalin save anyone?

Slow down

(03-06-2025 09:48 AM)BlueDragon Wrote:  

(03-06-2025 07:44 AM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  

(03-06-2025 01:15 AM)BlueDragon Wrote:  Russia would be donkey stomped by a halfass German army. If Germany builds a 200k man military. Russia thoughts on moving west die instantly.

Collectively, the EU dwarfs Russia in every metric except nuclear arms, and even there, France and the UK possess sufficient nuclear capabilities to deter aggression.

There is no reason Europe cannot defend itself with the USA playing a secondary role, but why would they when the American taxpayer foots the bill?

The UK & France are floating the idea to arm Germany with Nukes. I find this quite humorous to say the least. Without German Scientists who knows how much longer it would have taken for mankind to achieve this type of weaponry.

They can join up and march through poland...

(03-04-2025 02:16 PM)WalkThePlank Wrote:  

(03-04-2025 02:08 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(03-04-2025 01:53 PM)WalkThePlank Wrote:  

(03-04-2025 12:48 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(03-04-2025 12:03 PM)WalkThePlank Wrote:  If the scenario listed above were to occur, there’s practically zero chance that Russia wouldn’t respond in an act of war from NATO countries by not attacking their actual territory.

It would almost certainly happen.

Ignorance of history is not a virtue.

Russian and US fighter pilots were in dogfights in Korea. We fought the Chinese. Russians were in Vietnam. In none of those cases did the fighting extend beyond Vietnam or Korea into the US, China or Russia.

Russian and German troops fought each other in the Spanish Civil War. Yet they were allies in overrunning Poland at the start of WWII.

Russian troops fired at our people in Syria. We fired back and killed Russians. That didn't extend to Russia or the US.

We also haven't been in a war directly with Iran despite all that has gone on.

What exactly is ignorant about what I said?

It’s a cold reality that if the UK or other NATO countries send troops to Ukraine, then it would cross the “red line” that Russia has spoken about for decades.

Russia won’t just stand idle and play defense to an overextended, American-less NATO that doesn’t fund itself enough to secure an absolute victory. Russia would move into total war, use nukes if necessary in order to win.

I don’t want it to happen.

Its ignorant of history because that has happened many times before and it never went to all out war. The west has crossed Putin's threatened red lines many times already just as Obama's imaginary red lines were crossed in Syria.

Now if the UK was attacking targets in Russia, that would be different.

The common denominator in historical examples is a US led version of NATO that served as a deterrent to Russian foreign policy.

We aren’t going to bail out the EU if they provoke Russia into using nukes. Won’t happen.

Dead wrong. If Russia uses any Nukes there will be H3Ll TO PAY.

There aren’t many guarantees in life but that will be one of them.

(03-04-2025 04:36 PM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  

(03-04-2025 02:29 PM)hburg Wrote:  

(03-04-2025 12:48 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(03-04-2025 12:03 PM)WalkThePlank Wrote:  

(03-04-2025 11:37 AM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  If UK troops are attacked in Ukraine article 5 doesn’t apply.

If Russia bombs London Article 5 does apply because it’s within the territory of NATO.

If the scenario listed above were to occur, there’s practically zero chance that Russia wouldn’t respond in an act of war from NATO countries by not attacking their actual territory.

It would almost certainly happen.

Ignorance of history is not a virtue.

Russian and US fighter pilots were in dogfights in Korea. We fought the Chinese. Russians were in Vietnam. In none of those cases did the fighting extend beyond Vietnam or Korea into the US, China or Russia.

Russian and German troops fought each other in the Spanish Civil War. Yet they were allies in overrunning Poland at the start of WWII.

Russian troops fired at our people in Syria. We fired back and killed Russians. That didn't extend to Russia or the US.

We also haven't been in a war directly with Iran despite all that has gone on.

Good points. Did not think about the above. With that stated, Ukraine is desperate to be part of Nato, Europe is desperate to support Ukraine. Both are playing with fire, including Russia.

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Why would Russia care if their neighbor is in NATO? NATO is a defensive alliance and only comes into play if attacked.

Russia shouldn’t care unless they want to invade their neighbors.

Why should NATO and the rest of Europe cater to a rogue state who is intent on invading their neighbors? Fvck Russia. They started the war, slaughtered civilians, destroyed half a country. They deserve to be isolated pariahs, sanctioned and embargoed by all legitimate nations,

In last weeks UN vote the US voted against a resolution calling for a lasting peace and Russia to be held accountable for war crimes. The other countries voting no with us included Russia, North Korea, and Syria. Trump fully stands with his buttbuddy Putin and it is a disgrace to our country.

OMG that last paragraph is nothing more than political grandstanding

Anyone with a brain knows why we voted as such

I’ll bet you would also be one of those who couldn’t even have the decency to applaud a kid battling brain cancer. The Democrats have become a bunch people loathe worse than Trump.

(03-06-2025 10:56 AM)BlueDragon Wrote:  

(03-04-2025 04:36 PM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  

(03-04-2025 02:29 PM)hburg Wrote:  

(03-04-2025 12:48 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(03-04-2025 12:03 PM)WalkThePlank Wrote:  If the scenario listed above were to occur, there’s practically zero chance that Russia wouldn’t respond in an act of war from NATO countries by not attacking their actual territory.

It would almost certainly happen.

Ignorance of history is not a virtue.

Russian and US fighter pilots were in dogfights in Korea. We fought the Chinese. Russians were in Vietnam. In none of those cases did the fighting extend beyond Vietnam or Korea into the US, China or Russia.

Russian and German troops fought each other in the Spanish Civil War. Yet they were allies in overrunning Poland at the start of WWII.

Russian troops fired at our people in Syria. We fired back and killed Russians. That didn't extend to Russia or the US.

We also haven't been in a war directly with Iran despite all that has gone on.

Good points. Did not think about the above. With that stated, Ukraine is desperate to be part of Nato, Europe is desperate to support Ukraine. Both are playing with fire, including Russia.

Sent from my SM-S928U using Tapatalk

Why would Russia care if their neighbor is in NATO? NATO is a defensive alliance and only comes into play if attacked.

Russia shouldn’t care unless they want to invade their neighbors.

Why should NATO and the rest of Europe cater to a rogue state who is intent on invading their neighbors? Fvck Russia. They started the war, slaughtered civilians, destroyed half a country. They deserve to be isolated pariahs, sanctioned and embargoed by all legitimate nations,

In last weeks UN vote the US voted against a resolution calling for a lasting peace and Russia to be held accountable for war crimes. The other countries voting no with us included Russia, North Korea, and Syria. Trump fully stands with his buttbuddy Putin and it is a disgrace to our country.

OMG that last paragraph is nothing more than political grandstanding

Anyone with a brain knows why we voted as such

I’ll bet you would also be one of those who couldn’t even have the decency to applaud a kid battling brain cancer. The Democrats have become a bunch people loathe worse than Trump.

People like Elvis can't be helped, unfortunately.

Elvis: Hey, Elvis! Putin wanted Kamala to win, dingus. Remember that?

(03-04-2025 05:40 PM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  

(03-04-2025 05:20 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(03-04-2025 05:14 PM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  

(03-04-2025 04:38 PM)ECUGrad07 Wrote:  

(03-04-2025 04:36 PM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  Why would Russia care if their neighbor is in NATO? NATO is a defensive alliance and only comes into play if attacked.

Russia shouldn’t care unless they want to invade their neighbors.

Why should NATO and the rest of Europe cater to a rogue state who is intent on invading their neighbors? Fvck Russia. They started the war, slaughtered civilians, destroyed half a country. They deserve to be isolated pariahs, sanctioned and embargoed by all legitimate nations,

In last weeks UN vote the US voted against a resolution calling for a lasting peace and Russia to be held accountable for war crimes. The other countries voting no with us included Russia, North Korea, and Syria. Trump fully stands with his buttbuddy Putin and it is a disgrace to our country.

Trump voted against a useless UN resolution and instead is actually ENDING the war. My goodness you leftists are stupid.

Trump is trying to force Z to give up the part of his country Russia currently occupies because he is basically a Russian agent.

Do you actually believe that? You cannot be that dumb, can you? Russia invaded while Biden was in office, not Trump.

In the last month Trump has voted with Russia and North Korea at the UN, had the Department of Defense stand down all cyber security operations against Russia, and is pressuring a sovereign nation to give up territory to Russia.

Either they have something on him or he is bought and paid for.

A guy with millions in his bank account and lives in a house the size of a hotel worth millions is bought and paid for?

Pray tell boy wonder what does an extra million here or there do for someone who already has hundreds?

Why does he need money? I’ll bet Musk is bought and paid for too!!

The lunacy of brainwashed folks knows no bounds.

Democrats equals Mental Disorders 101

Agree. Their arguments are never logical.

https://x.com/MikeBenzCyber/status/1897554270062358543

Here's Jeffrey Sachs testifying that right after the 2014 overthrow of Ukraine's democratically elected government, he was personally flown to Kiev and told as he was walked around the Maidan Square "how the US paid all the money" for the protesters who overthrew the government

(03-06-2025 03:46 PM)CrimsonPhantom Wrote:  

Good. Maybe they will adopt him.

(03-06-2025 03:48 PM)Eagleaidaholic Wrote:  

(03-06-2025 03:46 PM)CrimsonPhantom Wrote:  

Good. Maybe they will adopt him.

They have the means to sacrifice “butter” for sufficient “guns”, but not the will. Words, words, and more words in insufferable virtue signaling is their only ammunition.