Quote:JUST IN: President Zelensky says if Senator Lindsey Graham wants him to resign he can move to Ukraine and become a citizen so his voice holds "weight."

Reporter: "Senator Lindsey Graham said that perhaps you should consider resigning..."

Zelensky: "Lindsay Graham is a very good guy... I can give him the citizenship of Ukraine. He will become a citizen of our country, and then his voice will gain weight."

"And I will hear him as a citizen of Ukraine on the topic of who must be the president."

BREAKING: Zelensky Tells BBC He's Ready to Sign Minerals Deal the US Says Is Off the Table

Quote:After meeting with British Prime Minister Keir Starmer Sunday, Ukraine's Volodymyr Zelensky told the British Broadcasting Company (BBC) he's willing to sign the minerals deal that was supposed to be signed Friday in Washington, D.C. before discussions in the Oval Office went off the rails and Zelensky was asked to leave.

According to reporting by the BBC, here is what was said (through a translator):

The BBC's Laura Kuenssberg has quizzed Zelensky about the future of the agreement...

Zelensky answers saying the minerals deal is ready for [the] minister to sign. “It is our policy to continue what happened in the past, we’re constructive,” he continues, “if we agreed to sign the minerals deal, we’re ready to sign it.”

“The agreement that’s on the table will be signed if the parties are ready,” he concludes.

Listening to the video, here is what was said by the translator, so clearly we're depending upon the translator's accuracy, but he does seem to indicate that he's ready to sign the deal that was ready on Friday.

The agreement on the minerals, the deal is ready. We are -- if it wasn't ready. There were many variants. But there is the last one, it is ready, and the ministers can sign it. Everywhere where I have said it as a president that we can do it. We do not retreat. It is our policy to continue despite what happened in the -- in the past. We are constructive. If -- we agreed upon signing it, we were ready to sign it. And honestly, I believe that the US will be ready as well. Perhaps there is a need in time to analyze certain things, but I would just want Ukrainian position to be heard.

The fact that it happened in the media, I did not prepare this meeting, and I was in those conditions that were there, and our extent was heard. Because I didn't want our position to be ambiguous. It's -- I think that it was heard now and not at the negotiation table at which Putin will be present. We must all understand and know each other, understand these are those red lines. They are not emotional, they just happen to be there, and there is justice and truth, and that is it.

Then, somewhat humbly, Zelensky says they're ready to sign "the agreement that is on the table," presumably referring to the agreement that should have been signed on Friday.

I'm ready for any format, constructive format and relationship with the United States, and I believe that we have it all and it is our capacity to preserve all that. On our side, once again, we very much count on that. We are willing, and we will be -- the agreement that is on the table, it will be signed if the parties are ready. And I've said what I think, because the agreement has two parties.

However, President Trump is reported to have said on Friday night that he's not open to talking to Zelensky about any deal as long as Zelensky aims to keep fighting instead of working toward a peace agreement. And, Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent said Sunday during an appearance on CBS' Face the Nation that the deal that was to be signed Friday isn't on the table.

In this press conference, Zelensky's attitude has been less confrontational than his attitude in Washington, D.C., but the longer it goes on, the less amiable Zelensky sounds. He might need to learn when to stop talking.

Trump said he would end the war in a day. Didn’t happen. Where I was wrong was thinking that Trump would put some pressure on Putin. For some unknown reason he has decided to snuggle up to Putin. There is no argument to be made otherwise. His declaration that Ukraine started the war and Zelinsky was the dictator was the defining moment. Then the revelation that he wanted to enter into economic ties with Putin was the door slamming on Ukraine. Fine and good. Now all you Putintards should go batchit crazy if another dime goes to Ukraine.

Don’t know how this will end, unlike some here who believe they are smarter than everyone else, but I don’t believe it will be a great win for the USA in the end.

(03-02-2025 05:45 PM)Was SoMs Eagle Wrote:  Trump said he would end the war in a day. Didn’t happen. Where I was wrong was thinking that Trump would put some pressure on Putin. For some unknown reason he has decided to snuggle up to Putin. There is no argument to be made otherwise. His declaration that Ukraine started the war and Zelinsky was the dictator was the defining moment. Then the revelation that he wanted to enter into economic ties with Putin was the door slamming on Ukraine. Fine and good. Now all you Putintards should go batchit crazy if another dime goes to Ukraine.

Don’t know how this will end, unlike some here who believe they are smarter than everyone else, but I don’t believe it will be a great win for the USA in the end.

Okay, Senator Chris Murphy (D-Connecticut).

(03-02-2025 05:49 PM)GeminiCoog Wrote:  

(03-02-2025 05:45 PM)Was SoMs Eagle Wrote:  Trump said he would end the war in a day. Didn’t happen. Where I was wrong was thinking that Trump would put some pressure on Putin. For some unknown reason he has decided to snuggle up to Putin. There is no argument to be made otherwise. His declaration that Ukraine started the war and Zelinsky was the dictator was the defining moment. Then the revelation that he wanted to enter into economic ties with Putin was the door slamming on Ukraine. Fine and good. Now all you Putintards should go batchit crazy if another dime goes to Ukraine.

Don’t know how this will end, unlike some here who believe they are smarter than everyone else, but I don’t believe it will be a great win for the USA in the end.

Okay, Senator Chris Murphy (D-Connecticut).

Please fill me in. Why am I now a democrat hack just because I don’t agree on this subject? I really was under the impression that conservatives didn’t engage in that type of prog filth behavior.

BTW where is Todor the Ivan? Seems he would be a presence here responding to every post Shere Karen made. Why is he silent?

Does somebody else wanna fill WSME in? I'm about to get something to eat.

Basically, Murphy and other Dems met with Zelenskyy before the Oval Office Meeting From Hell on Friday and encouraged him not to take the deal, hence the blowup Friday. Then, Murphy turned around and predictably called Trump a Russian stooge, pretty much what you're doing here, WSME.

If you don't like being called out for acting like the Dems, quit acting like it. Otherwise, you're gonna get called out. Sorry, not sorry.

Oh, and quit worrying about what Todor's doing. This is about you, not him.

(03-02-2025 05:55 PM)Was SoMs Eagle Wrote:  BTW where is Todor the Ivan? Seems he would be a presence here responding to every post Shere Karen made. Why is he silent?

You really lobbed that across the plate. Never ask open questions on a message board young padawan. I wont abuse you this time. Try making posts that are rational and not about other posters.

(03-02-2025 05:58 PM)GeminiCoog Wrote:  Does somebody else wanna fill WSME in? I'm about to get something to eat.

Basically, Murphy and other Dems met with Zelenskyy before the Oval Office Meeting From Hell on Friday and encouraged him not to take the deal, hence the blowup Friday. Then, Murphy turned around and predictably called Trump a Russian stooge, pretty much what you're doing here, WSME.

If you don't like being called out for acting like the Dems, quit acting like it. Otherwise, you're gonna get called out. Sorry, not sorry.

Oh, and quit worrying about what Todor's doing. This is about you, not him.

I’m not acting like a democrat. I’m acting like someone who sees one issue different than you. You are the one acting as a hive mind democrat. Sorry you don’t seem to realize that.

And I’ll ask any damn question I want. Sorry if it hurts you in any way.

(03-02-2025 06:42 PM)Was SoMs Eagle Wrote:  

(03-02-2025 05:58 PM)GeminiCoog Wrote:  Does somebody else wanna fill WSME in? I'm about to get something to eat.

Basically, Murphy and other Dems met with Zelenskyy before the Oval Office Meeting From Hell on Friday and encouraged him not to take the deal, hence the blowup Friday. Then, Murphy turned around and predictably called Trump a Russian stooge, pretty much what you're doing here, WSME.

If you don't like being called out for acting like the Dems, quit acting like it. Otherwise, you're gonna get called out. Sorry, not sorry.

Oh, and quit worrying about what Todor's doing. This is about you, not him.

I’m not acting like a democrat. I’m acting like someone who sees one issue different than you. You are the one acting as a hive mind democrat. Sorry you don’t seem to realize that.

And I’ll ask any damn question I want. Sorry if it hurts you in any way.

I applaud yourr stubborness

(03-02-2025 06:50 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(03-02-2025 06:42 PM)Was SoMs Eagle Wrote:  

(03-02-2025 05:58 PM)GeminiCoog Wrote:  Does somebody else wanna fill WSME in? I'm about to get something to eat.

Basically, Murphy and other Dems met with Zelenskyy before the Oval Office Meeting From Hell on Friday and encouraged him not to take the deal, hence the blowup Friday. Then, Murphy turned around and predictably called Trump a Russian stooge, pretty much what you're doing here, WSME.

If you don't like being called out for acting like the Dems, quit acting like it. Otherwise, you're gonna get called out. Sorry, not sorry.

Oh, and quit worrying about what Todor's doing. This is about you, not him.

I’m not acting like a democrat. I’m acting like someone who sees one issue different than you. You are the one acting as a hive mind democrat. Sorry you don’t seem to realize that.

And I’ll ask any damn question I want. Sorry if it hurts you in any way.

I applaud yourr stubborness

You should. It is one thing you are immensely better at than I.

(03-02-2025 01:15 AM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(03-01-2025 09:59 PM)bullet Wrote:  And I know several people who dealt with DJT in NYC. He played all kinds of games on deals. And he knows those games, so he's not offended when people try to get a better deal.

Now you are just making shite up or those "friends did and you believed their bullshite....

I doubt if your "friends" run in Trumps circle of deal making. Not just one but serval. I'm call things that never happened.

Now I'm sure you have one foot in the nursing home

Well that's because you are a skeptic. You probably don't believe the US landed on the moon. Yes. they know the Trumps pretty well. Everybody likes Ivanka.

(03-02-2025 01:20 PM)Redbanksdog Wrote:  I wonder if this is true ?

quote:
A common criticism of Volodymyr Zelensky’s disastrous Friday performance in the Oval Office is that he failed to read the room. Actually, the Ukrainian president did read a room — but it was the wrong room. Before meeting Trump, Zelensky met with anti-Trump Democrats who advised him to reject the terms of the mineral deal the president was offering, according to Sen. Chris Murphy (D-Conn.).


quote:
“Just finished a meeting with President Zelensky here in Washington. He confirmed that the Ukrainian people will not support a fake peace agreement where Putin gets everything he wants and there are no security arrangements for Ukraine,” Murphy’s office posted on X at 11:15 a.m. Friday. He attached a picture of Zelensky at a conference table, with Murphy seated on the opposite side. Forty minutes later, Zelensky arrived at the White House, where Trump met his car, smiled, shook his hand and walked him into the Oval Office.

Well duh! Nobody in their right mind would support that. And the Dems didn't tell him that. Common sense did.

All of these articles are either just 100% speculation or they confuse the minerals deal, which he was apparently ready to sign, with a ceasefire. The NY Post article was mixing up the two.

Quote:I have tried very hard to maintain support for the efforts of the Ukrainian people to repel the Russian invasion and have expressed admiration for President Zelensky’s leadership during the most difficult times.

I, like so many others, can only give advice. It’s up to President Zelensky to determine whether or not to take it.

(03-02-2025 05:03 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(03-02-2025 04:54 PM)CrimsonPhantom Wrote:  

The NATO ship has sailed. I get why he wants it---but the reality is its not going to happen. So---a European "coalition of the willing"---that includes two nuclear powers and a number of other western nations----is the best security guarantee he's going to get---and its a lot better than the "nothing" he has now. If a NATO guarantee is a "10"---then he needs to not turn his nose up at the "7" or "8" level guarantee he's being offered. It aint NATO---but it aint bad---besides----I think there is a good chance the NATO we know today wont be the same NATO in a few years anyway. It may end up looking very much like his eventual "coalition of the willing" security guarantee.

"Coalition of the willing". you neocon Texans kill me.

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(03-02-2025 05:30 PM)CrimsonPhantom Wrote:  

Quote:JUST IN: President Zelensky says if Senator Lindsey Graham wants him to resign he can move to Ukraine and become a citizen so his voice holds "weight."

Reporter: "Senator Lindsey Graham said that perhaps you should consider resigning..."

Zelensky: "Lindsay Graham is a very good guy... I can give him the citizenship of Ukraine. He will become a citizen of our country, and then his voice will gain weight."

"And I will hear him as a citizen of Ukraine on the topic of who must be the president."

That's what I would have told Graham. He was out of line with that comment.
its for the Ukrainians to make that decision, not Lindsay.

I find it funny that even after Murphy made his efforts at sabotaging the meeting between Trump and Zelenskyy Froday public via X/Twitter, a couple people on here still say Trump was wrong. I expect that from the leftists on this board, like Tom, OST, and Mr. X. But from WSME and bullet? Y'all are much smarter than that.

Whatever. I guess we all have our own hills we want to die on. This seems to be yours. Congratulations. We'll play "Taps" in your honor and tell stories about how both of y'all were usually common sense people, but not when it came to this issue.

Rest in political peace, you two.

(03-02-2025 07:14 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(03-02-2025 05:30 PM)CrimsonPhantom Wrote:  

Quote:JUST IN: President Zelensky says if Senator Lindsey Graham wants him to resign he can move to Ukraine and become a citizen so his voice holds "weight."

Reporter: "Senator Lindsey Graham said that perhaps you should consider resigning..."

Zelensky: "Lindsay Graham is a very good guy... I can give him the citizenship of Ukraine. He will become a citizen of our country, and then his voice will gain weight."

"And I will hear him as a citizen of Ukraine on the topic of who must be the president."

That's what I would have told Graham. He was out of line with that comment.
its for the Ukrainians to make that decision, not Lindsay.

No, he wasn't. Zelenskyy has suspended elections in Ukraine. Therefore, Graham was spot on.

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