(11-19-2024 07:02 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(11-19-2024 06:51 PM)Was SoMs Eagle Wrote:  

(11-19-2024 06:41 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(11-19-2024 06:37 PM)Was SoMs Eagle Wrote:  

(11-19-2024 06:14 PM)shere khan Wrote:  Lotsa propaganda

Total folley

Yall real big on killing other peoples sons.

Ask them that. How many would cut a check for a thousand and send their 20 year old to die for frickin Ukraine.

Its obscene and disgusting

Talking about weapon sytems like they are toys andworld leaders like they are comic book villians.

Pathetic. Just pathetic.

I hope Trump stops this madness

Its not our business. All we do is pour gas on the fire.

Weve not learned a damn thing

Spare me the byllshite neville chamberlain hitler shite. Thats totally idiotic

Well done dumbarses.

Thought you didn’t care? Don’t lie about it. Makes you look like Tommie Bois.

And BTW, nobody has asked any American son to go over there and fight for Ukraine. They are doing much better than you predicted they would by themselves. Hell, they got the dwarf tyrant yapping about using nukes. Doesn’t sound like he’s about to overrun Ukraine to me.

Youve been right about nothing. As far as short people.. you seem fixated on that. Have you seen that little turd zelinsky. Come on.

I hope he doesnt flatten keiv for their sake.

Not another dime from us.

Obscene

When the dwarf actor now president invades another sovereign nation for spoils I’ll call him such. Meanwhile don’t get your panties in a wad that I call em like I see em. He is a dwarf tyrant. Sorry if that hurts your feelings. Probably one reason he invades his neighbors is to prop up his stature. The short guy syndrome. You know what I’m talking about, you read books.


And anyone on this planet that doesn’t realize the obscene thing here is the killing of hundreds of thousands of people by a madman just to inflate his ego. Hopefully this ends with him following Hitler’s path.

FFS

Childish simplistic. Youre a mind reader, a psychiatrist and a prophet

Hitlers path was a swath through Europe and world war.

Yeah. It might end up like that. Stupid Americans

Sorry I have to explain things more simply for you but the path I’m alluding to is the bullet to the brain.

(11-19-2024 06:46 PM)BartlettTigerFan Wrote:  That’s OUR $275 million. We have countless people in need in OUR country.

That's a fact, but the needs of US citizens are WAY on down the list.

Our first objective is to pay via taxes for the BILLIONS that Pedo Joe is going to throw to the Ukraine mini-me before 1/20/25. Plus the assorted horsesh1t boondoggles our elected Congressional idiots threw together.

Priorities, comrade. Important that you contribute your fair share!

Hard for me to believe there are patriotic Americans (read: non prog filth) that are ok with all this.

(11-19-2024 08:06 PM)BartlettTigerFan Wrote:  Hard for me to believe there are patriotic Americans (read: non prog filth) that are ok with all this.

I believe it. The deep state has seeded society to be globalists who can explain away our involvement in any conflict in the world.

Both parties have bought into most of it, and both parties are in the payroll.

Hopefully Trump can again keep us out of some of this. He’s about the only hope I’ve seen.

Of course, the deep state will probably stage an attack on us so our “intelligence” can pin it on someone we can go to war against.

Not that anyone believes our own government would do something like that

(11-19-2024 08:06 PM)BartlettTigerFan Wrote:  Hard for me to believe there are patriotic Americans (read: non prog filth) that are ok with all this.

Their hearts are in the right place.

We can disagree but fight together later.

We are not lockstep filth

(11-19-2024 08:03 PM)CrimsonPhantom Wrote:  

Biden cant make a solid bowel movement. The globohomos control him.

(11-19-2024 07:06 PM)Was SoMs Eagle Wrote:  

(11-19-2024 06:42 PM)BartlettTigerFan Wrote:  But we are paying for it! Jfc. What don’t you people understand about that?

Obviously the people in power believe it is in our national interest.

Suddenly the Biden regime knows what they're doing over there?

(11-19-2024 09:22 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(11-19-2024 08:03 PM)CrimsonPhantom Wrote:  

Biden cant make a solid bowel movement. The globohomos control him.

This we can agree on

(11-19-2024 09:50 PM)b2b Wrote:  

(11-19-2024 07:06 PM)Was SoMs Eagle Wrote:  

(11-19-2024 06:42 PM)BartlettTigerFan Wrote:  But we are paying for it! Jfc. What don’t you people understand about that?

Obviously the people in power believe it is in our national interest.

You stupid ****. Suddenly the Biden regime knows WTF they're doing over there. You walked right into that. You stupid meocons conveniently forget Obama's roll in this **** show and Burisma.

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The screeee is not needed there my friend. Reading comprehension is. Never said he knew what he was doing. I said they believe they knew what they are doing. Quite different things. It is amazing to me that my mostly conservative brothers have gotten so completely obsessed with what we have done STARTING WITH THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION.

Biden F-ed it up. Surprise surprise.

You numbskulls, and I call you that lovingly, have no memory of Biden actually trying to gift Ukraine to Putin. 1st the small incursion signal. Next the offer to Zelinsky for a ride out of town. What would have happened had that worked out? Russia would have steam rolled Ukraine like many of you thought they would and within a couple of months would have been on the border of the Baltic states threatening them. Not to mention Poland. What we have then is a war that Americans would have been involved in. The little green midget actor actually could possibly have saved us from being involved with American blood being spilled simply by denying Biden’s ride out of town.

No way to know for sure if this scenario would have played out like that but it is damn sure a possibility.

(11-19-2024 09:21 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(11-19-2024 08:06 PM)BartlettTigerFan Wrote:  Hard for me to believe there are patriotic Americans (read: non prog filth) that are ok with all this.

Their hearts are in the right place.

We can disagree but fight together later.

We are not lockstep filth

/thread

(11-19-2024 08:03 PM)CrimsonPhantom Wrote:  

I think that's been American policy for a while. The USA, Russia, China, North and South Korea and Ukraine are about the only nations not in the 3rd world that use them. USA has not been using them other than in Korea.

I'm surprised Ukraine doesn't have mass production of them. Maybe they got most of theirs from Russia.

(11-19-2024 10:27 PM)Was SoMs Eagle Wrote:  

(11-19-2024 09:50 PM)b2b Wrote:  

(11-19-2024 07:06 PM)Was SoMs Eagle Wrote:  

(11-19-2024 06:42 PM)BartlettTigerFan Wrote:  But we are paying for it! Jfc. What don’t you people understand about that?

Obviously the people in power believe it is in our national interest.

You stupid ****. Suddenly the Biden regime knows WTF they're doing over there. You walked right into that. You stupid meocons conveniently forget Obama's roll in this **** show and Burisma.

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The screeee is not needed there my friend. Reading comprehension is. Never said he knew what he was doing. I said they believe they knew what they are doing. Quite different things. It is amazing to me that my mostly conservative brothers have gotten so completely obsessed with what we have done STARTING WITH THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION.

Biden F-ed it up. Surprise surprise.

You numbskulls, and I call you that lovingly, have no memory of Biden actually trying to gift Ukraine to Putin. 1st the small incursion signal. Next the offer to Zelinsky for a ride out of town. What would have happened had that worked out? Russia would have steam rolled Ukraine like many of you thought they would and within a couple of months would have been on the border of the Baltic states threatening them. Not to mention Poland. What we have then is a war that Americans would have been involved in. The little green midget actor actually could possibly have saved us from being involved with American blood being spilled simply by denying Biden’s ride out of town.

No way to know for sure if this scenario would have played out like that but it is damn sure a possibility.

I apologize for the language. Going back to edit. This whole mess just really ticks me off.

(11-19-2024 10:27 PM)Was SoMs Eagle Wrote:  

(11-19-2024 09:50 PM)b2b Wrote:  

(11-19-2024 07:06 PM)Was SoMs Eagle Wrote:  

(11-19-2024 06:42 PM)BartlettTigerFan Wrote:  But we are paying for it! Jfc. What don’t you people understand about that?

Obviously the people in power believe it is in our national interest.

You stupid ****. Suddenly the Biden regime knows WTF they're doing over there. You walked right into that. You stupid meocons conveniently forget Obama's roll in this **** show and Burisma.

Sent from my Pixel 7 using Tapatalk

The screeee is not needed there my friend. Reading comprehension is. Never said he knew what he was doing. I said they believe they knew what they are doing. Quite different things. It is amazing to me that my mostly conservative brothers have gotten so completely obsessed with what we have done STARTING WITH THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION.

Biden F-ed it up. Surprise surprise.

You numbskulls, and I call you that lovingly, have no memory of Biden actually trying to gift Ukraine to Putin. 1st the small incursion signal. Next the offer to Zelinsky for a ride out of town. What would have happened had that worked out? Russia would have steam rolled Ukraine like many of you thought they would and within a couple of months would have been on the border of the Baltic states threatening them. Not to mention Poland. What we have then is a war that Americans would have been involved in. The little green midget actor actually could possibly have saved us from being involved with American blood being spilled simply by denying Biden’s ride out of town.

No way to know for sure if this scenario would have played out like that but it is damn sure a possibility.

A really good point. Its one Ive mentioned before---but not in that way. My point has always been if Putin had rolled through Ukraine in a few weeks---we would have had 150K well supplied front line Russian troops with their front line equipment intact----fresh off a huge victory----sitting on the NATO border with nothing more than the NATO quick response force opposing them. And nobody thinks Putin would tip toe into the Baltics just to see what we would do? Would we really nuke Russia over the Baltics? I doubt it. The Rand Corporation modeling at the time says a Russian incursion similar to that would have occupied the Baltic states of Estonia, Lithuania, and Latvia in just 72 hours. We would have been forced into a bloody fight to get it back---possible----but that would require all sorts of death and destruction in those nations to do it. More likely, we would had to enter negotiations with Putin---who would be largely holding all the cards that mattered---and the frail "sharp as a tack" Biden would have been the guy negotiating on behalf of the USA. Not a pretty picture....

(11-19-2024 08:06 PM)BartlettTigerFan Wrote:  Hard for me to believe there are patriotic Americans (read: non prog filth) that are ok with all this.

That's because you have been brainwashed by Putin and his lapdog Tucker Carlson.

(11-20-2024 02:00 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(11-19-2024 08:06 PM)BartlettTigerFan Wrote:  Hard for me to believe there are patriotic Americans (read: non prog filth) that are ok with all this.

That's because you have been brainwashed by Putin and his lapdog Tucker Carlson.

You are so wrong sir. I am hardly pro Putin and I listen to neither him nor Carlson. I'm simply anti giving my money away to people half a world away that I don't give a chit about. I have lost nothing in Ukraine. They are not my brothers nor my sisters. If you want to give them money you should write them a check. I should not be required to do the same.

(11-20-2024 05:06 PM)BartlettTigerFan Wrote:  

(11-20-2024 02:00 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(11-19-2024 08:06 PM)BartlettTigerFan Wrote:  Hard for me to believe there are patriotic Americans (read: non prog filth) that are ok with all this.

That's because you have been brainwashed by Putin and his lapdog Tucker Carlson.

You are so wrong sir. I am hardly pro Putin and I listen to neither him nor Carlson. I'm simply anti giving my money away to people half a world away that I don't give a chit about. I have lost nothing in Ukraine. They are not my brothers nor my sisters. If you want to give them money you should write them a check. I should not be required to do the same.

Of all the arguments against American support for Ukraine---thats the one I think is by far the strongest. I dont necessarily agree with it in this case---but your logic here makes a lot of sense and I tend to be pretty sympathetic to arguments that are based in fiscal responsibility.

Thank you! Finally somebody gets it!