(11-19-2024 06:01 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(11-19-2024 05:35 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(11-19-2024 05:21 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(11-19-2024 04:39 PM)BartlettTigerFan Wrote:  The people of Ukraine are the people of Ukraine. They are not us, we are not them. All you guys that want to help them should fly over to Ukraine. Bring your own guns and ammo.

Who exactly is "us"? Roughly 80% of Democrats and about 40% of Republicans support supplying aid to Ukraine. Just saying....your "us" doesnt include nearly as many people as you seem to think it does. I am VERY sympathetic to the America First agenda---I just dont agree that this support is not in our best interests---and that appears to be a position that the majority of "us" (assuming you mean Americans) seem to hold right now.

Not even all retard democrats support it.

lol---when have they ALL ever supported something roughly 40% of Republicans also support?

Lotsa propaganda

Total folley

Yall real big on killing other peoples sons.

Ask them that. How many would cut a check for a thousand and send their 20 year old to die for frickin Ukraine.

Its obscene and disgusting

Talking about weapon sytems like they are toys andworld leaders like they are comic book villians.

Pathetic. Just pathetic.

I hope Trump stops this madness

Its not our business. All we do is pour gas on the fire.

Weve not learned a damn thing

Spare me the byllshite neville chamberlain hitler shite. Thats totally idiotic

Well done dumbarses.

(11-19-2024 05:24 PM)Todor Wrote:  

(11-19-2024 04:46 PM)513Alex Wrote:  

(11-19-2024 04:00 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(11-19-2024 03:39 PM)513Alex Wrote:  

(11-19-2024 02:13 PM)Was SoMs Eagle Wrote:  Then why are they fighting the Russians so hard and have killed 250,000 of them and wounded another 500,000? For American corruption? Sure. That’s got to be it. Maybe you can show me one of these wars supposedly fought for oil or minerals where we actually took them. Give it a try. Should be easy since the war for oil sceeee has gone on for decades now.

Ukraine isn't fighting hard lol. We don't "steal" the oil we "steal" the country. That's exactly what happened here. Our global corporations are running the show over there. The Biden Burisma charade was our oil companies using them to acquire state owned Naftogaz and that would be the primary competitor to Russia selling oil and gas to Europe.

U.S. Energy Companies Could Help Ukraine Win Energy Freedom And Neuter Russia
https://www.forbes.com/sites/kensilverst...er-russia/

Naftogaz held talks with US oil companies about energy projects in Ukraine, Financial Times reports
https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/...023-04-21/

Here where see Graham say Ukraine he really means the US. He views Ukraine as an American territory.

They're sitting on 10 to $12 trillion of critical minerals in- in Ukraine. They could be the richest country in all of Europe. I don't want to give that money and those assets to Putin to share with China. If we help Ukraine now, they can become the best business partner we ever dreamed of, that 10 to $12 trillion of critical mineral assets could be used by Ukraine and the West, not given to Putin and China. This is a very big deal how Ukraine ends. Let's help them win a war we can't afford to lose. Let's find a solution to this war. But they're sitting on a gold mine. To give Putin 10 or $12 trillion for critical minerals that he will share with China is ridiculous.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/lindsey-gra...6-09-2024/

Thank you for finally admitting what this is. Like Ive been saying forever, this is nothing but a Putin land grab. It has nothing to do with nations joining NATO OTHER than once a nation joins NATO it kinda becomes off limits to land grabs by Russia. By the way, a Russian commentator said almost the same thing on one of the Russian propaganda shows. He basically said it doesnt matter how many young Russians are lost or how much equipment was lost---the invasion is still worth it because there is 64 trillion (his number) in resources in the ground under new annexed portions of Ukraine. Didnt say a thing about Nazi's or Russian security. His defense of the war was all about money.

That said----the people of Ukraine are fighting hard. Most of those guys in the trenches wont get a dime of these riches being mentioned. Those soldiers are fighting for their nation. If it was about some oligarch making money---the guys in the trenches would fly a white flag, climb out of those icy cold trenches, and go home. They dont give a crap who gets the riches. They are just gunna be grunts chipping the resources out of the ground either way...thats not why they fight.

It's an American land grab, not a Russian one. Russia didn't cross over until years after we overthrew their government and 1 day after Kamala said in Munich that we are going to bring Ukraine into NATO. Here's the difference Ukraine and Russia have a **** ton of resources and Russia get theirs to the market, Ukraine doesn't and needs a partner so it's either Russia or the West. If it's the West it cripples Russia's economy.

And the West want regime change in Russia (like we did in Ukraine) so they can globohomo it and flood the country will 50 million muslims and africans so they can erase Russian identity. Sound familiar?

The plan is to get regime change in Russia, provoke a conflict in China, and use Russian people to fight a prolonged war with China to weaken both.

It’s nearly a guarantee that if the West gets ahold of control of Russia, if that alone didn’t provoke an actual war, they would push it until a war broke out.

And then say, “Look, China and Russia can’t get along with anybody.”

We run a sick game. One that we can’t even afford, I might add.

#37TrillionAndCounting

Yall listen closely to Ivan. He will tell you what the dwarf tyrant wants you to hear. What he wants you to be afraid of. There’s a monster under the bed and the US is it.

But not much longer

(11-19-2024 05:34 PM)shere khan Wrote:  Do not care

Frick em

Not another dime

Do not care? See ya

(11-19-2024 06:14 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(11-19-2024 06:01 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(11-19-2024 05:35 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(11-19-2024 05:21 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(11-19-2024 04:39 PM)BartlettTigerFan Wrote:  The people of Ukraine are the people of Ukraine. They are not us, we are not them. All you guys that want to help them should fly over to Ukraine. Bring your own guns and ammo.

Who exactly is "us"? Roughly 80% of Democrats and about 40% of Republicans support supplying aid to Ukraine. Just saying....your "us" doesnt include nearly as many people as you seem to think it does. I am VERY sympathetic to the America First agenda---I just dont agree that this support is not in our best interests---and that appears to be a position that the majority of "us" (assuming you mean Americans) seem to hold right now.

Not even all retard democrats support it.

lol---when have they ALL ever supported something roughly 40% of Republicans also support?

Lotsa propaganda

Total folley

Yall real big on killing other peoples sons.

Ask them that. How many would cut a check for a thousand and send their 20 year old to die for frickin Ukraine.

Its obscene and disgusting

Talking about weapon sytems like they are toys andworld leaders like they are comic book villians.

Pathetic. Just pathetic.

I hope Trump stops this madness

Its not our business. All we do is pour gas on the fire.

Weve not learned a damn thing

Spare me the byllshite neville chamberlain hitler shite. Thats totally idiotic

Well done dumbarses.

lol----Why is it that the Neville Chamberlands of the world always hate being told they are Neville Chamberlines? I think its because they know how weak they sound and it even disgusts themselves. The ideas you support literally caused WWII cuz these ideas convinced people it was a bad idea to stand up to expansionist bullies. Your sons dont go to war because you stood your ground---they go to war because you refused to stand your ground until it was too late. There are no US troops there. We are sending them weapons---just like Russia did to us in Vietnam---just like Russia and China did for N Korea in the 1950's.

Trump will solve it---but I guarantee he wont do it by rolling over and giving in to every Putin threat. Putin isnt going to war against NATO---he's just counting on everyone being too afraid he will to get in his way. If he thought he could beat NATO---he wouldn't be threatening---he would have just set up forces and done it like he did in Ukraine.

(11-19-2024 06:07 PM)BartlettTigerFan Wrote:  

(11-19-2024 05:58 PM)Was SoMs Eagle Wrote:  

(11-19-2024 04:39 PM)BartlettTigerFan Wrote:  The people of Ukraine are the people of Ukraine. They are not us, we are not them. All you guys that want to help them should fly over to Ukraine. Bring your own guns and ammo.

With 64trillion dollars in new Ukraine assets maybe you'll get that chance over here. You certainly don’t think that Putin will share that wealth with the Russian people do you? Unless of course you are talking about building a more modern and lethal war machine that will enable him to continue his imperialism. The world doesn’t end at the end of your nose.

Dude. I don’t give a chit about Putin or Russia either. It’s not either or it’s neither nor. The world DOES end at the end of my nose. Ukraine nor Russia is ANY of my business.

I usually ignore things not my business. Maybe you should give it a try.

I don't know, but a certain prophet in 2007 predicted that Trump (by name) would become president and that he would serve two terms, be impeached and face lawfare (didn't use that word but it fits) like has never been seen before.

He also prophesied that Putin (by name) would die by the sword. I'm still waiting to see if THAT ONE is true. So far he's been batting .1000.

It would save a LOT of lives on both sides if this comes true. All we can do is wait and see.

(11-19-2024 06:13 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(11-19-2024 05:24 PM)Todor Wrote:  

(11-19-2024 04:46 PM)513Alex Wrote:  

(11-19-2024 04:00 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(11-19-2024 03:39 PM)513Alex Wrote:  Ukraine isn't fighting hard lol. We don't "steal" the oil we "steal" the country. That's exactly what happened here. Our global corporations are running the show over there. The Biden Burisma charade was our oil companies using them to acquire state owned Naftogaz and that would be the primary competitor to Russia selling oil and gas to Europe.

U.S. Energy Companies Could Help Ukraine Win Energy Freedom And Neuter Russia
https://www.forbes.com/sites/kensilverst...er-russia/

Naftogaz held talks with US oil companies about energy projects in Ukraine, Financial Times reports
https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/...023-04-21/

Here where see Graham say Ukraine he really means the US. He views Ukraine as an American territory.

They're sitting on 10 to $12 trillion of critical minerals in- in Ukraine. They could be the richest country in all of Europe. I don't want to give that money and those assets to Putin to share with China. If we help Ukraine now, they can become the best business partner we ever dreamed of, that 10 to $12 trillion of critical mineral assets could be used by Ukraine and the West, not given to Putin and China. This is a very big deal how Ukraine ends. Let's help them win a war we can't afford to lose. Let's find a solution to this war. But they're sitting on a gold mine. To give Putin 10 or $12 trillion for critical minerals that he will share with China is ridiculous.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/lindsey-gra...6-09-2024/

Thank you for finally admitting what this is. Like Ive been saying forever, this is nothing but a Putin land grab. It has nothing to do with nations joining NATO OTHER than once a nation joins NATO it kinda becomes off limits to land grabs by Russia. By the way, a Russian commentator said almost the same thing on one of the Russian propaganda shows. He basically said it doesnt matter how many young Russians are lost or how much equipment was lost---the invasion is still worth it because there is 64 trillion (his number) in resources in the ground under new annexed portions of Ukraine. Didnt say a thing about Nazi's or Russian security. His defense of the war was all about money.

That said----the people of Ukraine are fighting hard. Most of those guys in the trenches wont get a dime of these riches being mentioned. Those soldiers are fighting for their nation. If it was about some oligarch making money---the guys in the trenches would fly a white flag, climb out of those icy cold trenches, and go home. They dont give a crap who gets the riches. They are just gunna be grunts chipping the resources out of the ground either way...thats not why they fight.

It's an American land grab, not a Russian one. Russia didn't cross over until years after we overthrew their government and 1 day after Kamala said in Munich that we are going to bring Ukraine into NATO. Here's the difference Ukraine and Russia have a **** ton of resources and Russia get theirs to the market, Ukraine doesn't and needs a partner so it's either Russia or the West. If it's the West it cripples Russia's economy.

And the West want regime change in Russia (like we did in Ukraine) so they can globohomo it and flood the country will 50 million muslims and africans so they can erase Russian identity. Sound familiar?

The plan is to get regime change in Russia, provoke a conflict in China, and use Russian people to fight a prolonged war with China to weaken both.

It’s nearly a guarantee that if the West gets ahold of control of Russia, if that alone didn’t provoke an actual war, they would push it until a war broke out.

And then say, “Look, China and Russia can’t get along with anybody.”

We run a sick game. One that we can’t even afford, I might add.

#37TrillionAndCounting

Easiest way to split the China-Russia union is for Russia to fire a nuke. China wants no part of normalizing the use of nukes in a conventional war. It means China will forever lose the ability to take back Taiwan. One nuke in the Straight and the entire Chinese invasion fleet is gone in an instant. It means encroaching on the Indian border suddenly becomes a non-starter. Their South Pacific expansionism suddenly hits a nuclear brick wall--not to mention it would hardly be a surprise if Taiwan (perhaps even Japan) went nuclear virtually overnight. None of that is helpful to China's agenda.

These Russian bots posting in this little room by the name of Todor don’t really care about the truth. Only stirring up whatever dissension that they can. Maybe they convince a few of the weak minded. I’m sure they do. I personally am sick of them being here.

………Remember………

This is the same account that praised Putin for sending “the garbage” to the front lines to be blown to pieces. Bragging that he should round up all of the ‘worthless’ people and send them all saying it would improve mother Russia. Sound familiar? Of course it does. It is the way they have always done it in Stalin’s Russia. And Hitler’s Germany.

(11-19-2024 06:18 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(11-19-2024 06:14 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(11-19-2024 06:01 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(11-19-2024 05:35 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(11-19-2024 05:21 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  Who exactly is "us"? Roughly 80% of Democrats and about 40% of Republicans support supplying aid to Ukraine. Just saying....your "us" doesnt include nearly as many people as you seem to think it does. I am VERY sympathetic to the America First agenda---I just dont agree that this support is not in our best interests---and that appears to be a position that the majority of "us" (assuming you mean Americans) seem to hold right now.

Not even all retard democrats support it.

lol---when have they ALL ever supported something roughly 40% of Republicans also support?

Lotsa propaganda

Total folley

Yall real big on killing other peoples sons.

Ask them that. How many would cut a check for a thousand and send their 20 year old to die for frickin Ukraine.

Its obscene and disgusting

Talking about weapon sytems like they are toys andworld leaders like they are comic book villians.

Pathetic. Just pathetic.

I hope Trump stops this madness

Its not our business. All we do is pour gas on the fire.

Weve not learned a damn thing

Spare me the byllshite neville chamberlain hitler shite. Thats totally idiotic

Well done dumbarses.

lol----Why is it that the Neville Chamberlands of the world always hate being told they are Neville Chamberlines? I think its because they know how weak they sound and it even disgusts themselves. The ideas you support literally caused WWII cuz these ideas convinced people it was a bad idea to stand up to expansionist bullies. Your sons dont go to war because you stood your ground---they go to war because you refused to until it was too late. Trump will solve it---but he wont do it by rolling over and giving in to every Putin demand. Putin isnt going to war against NATO---he's just counting on everyone being too afraid he will to get in his way. If he thought he could beat NATO---he wouldn't be threatening---he would have just set up forces and done it like he did in Ukraine.

Read a book on Chamberlain.

You dont know what Putin will do

(11-19-2024 06:14 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(11-19-2024 06:01 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(11-19-2024 05:35 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(11-19-2024 05:21 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(11-19-2024 04:39 PM)BartlettTigerFan Wrote:  The people of Ukraine are the people of Ukraine. They are not us, we are not them. All you guys that want to help them should fly over to Ukraine. Bring your own guns and ammo.

Who exactly is "us"? Roughly 80% of Democrats and about 40% of Republicans support supplying aid to Ukraine. Just saying....your "us" doesnt include nearly as many people as you seem to think it does. I am VERY sympathetic to the America First agenda---I just dont agree that this support is not in our best interests---and that appears to be a position that the majority of "us" (assuming you mean Americans) seem to hold right now.

Not even all retard democrats support it.

lol---when have they ALL ever supported something roughly 40% of Republicans also support?

Lotsa propaganda

Total folley

Yall real big on killing other peoples sons.

Ask them that. How many would cut a check for a thousand and send their 20 year old to die for frickin Ukraine.

Its obscene and disgusting

Talking about weapon sytems like they are toys andworld leaders like they are comic book villians.

Pathetic. Just pathetic.

I hope Trump stops this madness

Its not our business. All we do is pour gas on the fire.

Weve not learned a damn thing

Spare me the byllshite neville chamberlain hitler shite. Thats totally idiotic

Well done dumbarses.

Thought you didn’t care? Don’t lie about it. Makes you look like Tommie Bois.

And BTW, nobody has asked any American son to go over there and fight for Ukraine. They are doing much better than you predicted they would by themselves. Hell, they got the dwarf tyrant yapping about using nukes. Doesn’t sound like he’s about to overrun Ukraine to me.

(11-19-2024 06:37 PM)Was SoMs Eagle Wrote:  

(11-19-2024 06:14 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(11-19-2024 06:01 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(11-19-2024 05:35 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(11-19-2024 05:21 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  Who exactly is "us"? Roughly 80% of Democrats and about 40% of Republicans support supplying aid to Ukraine. Just saying....your "us" doesnt include nearly as many people as you seem to think it does. I am VERY sympathetic to the America First agenda---I just dont agree that this support is not in our best interests---and that appears to be a position that the majority of "us" (assuming you mean Americans) seem to hold right now.

Not even all retard democrats support it.

lol---when have they ALL ever supported something roughly 40% of Republicans also support?

Lotsa propaganda

Total folley

Yall real big on killing other peoples sons.

Ask them that. How many would cut a check for a thousand and send their 20 year old to die for frickin Ukraine.

Its obscene and disgusting

Talking about weapon sytems like they are toys andworld leaders like they are comic book villians.

Pathetic. Just pathetic.

I hope Trump stops this madness

Its not our business. All we do is pour gas on the fire.

Weve not learned a damn thing

Spare me the byllshite neville chamberlain hitler shite. Thats totally idiotic

Well done dumbarses.

Thought you didn’t care? Don’t lie about it. Makes you look like Tommie Bois.

And BTW, nobody has asked any American son to go over there and fight for Ukraine. They are doing much better than you predicted they would by themselves. Hell, they got the dwarf tyrant yapping about using nukes. Doesn’t sound like he’s about to overrun Ukraine to me.

Youve been right about nothing. As far as short people.. you seem fixated on that. Have you seen that little turd zelinsky. Come on.

I hope he doesnt flatten keiv for their sake.

Not another dime from us.

Obscene

But we are paying for it! Jfc. What don’t you people understand about that?

(11-19-2024 06:42 PM)BartlettTigerFan Wrote:  But we are paying for it! Jfc. What don’t you people understand about that?

Idiocy

Small thinkers

All i can figure

(11-19-2024 06:44 PM)CrimsonPhantom Wrote:  

I hate that pedo

That’s OUR $275 million. We have countless people in need in OUR country.

(11-19-2024 06:46 PM)BartlettTigerFan Wrote:  That’s OUR $275 million. We have countless people in need in OUR country.

Retardia

We are a country of stupid people

(11-19-2024 06:41 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(11-19-2024 06:37 PM)Was SoMs Eagle Wrote:  

(11-19-2024 06:14 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(11-19-2024 06:01 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(11-19-2024 05:35 PM)shere khan Wrote:  Not even all retard democrats support it.

lol---when have they ALL ever supported something roughly 40% of Republicans also support?

Lotsa propaganda

Total folley

Yall real big on killing other peoples sons.

Ask them that. How many would cut a check for a thousand and send their 20 year old to die for frickin Ukraine.

Its obscene and disgusting

Talking about weapon sytems like they are toys andworld leaders like they are comic book villians.

Pathetic. Just pathetic.

I hope Trump stops this madness

Its not our business. All we do is pour gas on the fire.

Weve not learned a damn thing

Spare me the byllshite neville chamberlain hitler shite. Thats totally idiotic

Well done dumbarses.

Thought you didn’t care? Don’t lie about it. Makes you look like Tommie Bois.

And BTW, nobody has asked any American son to go over there and fight for Ukraine. They are doing much better than you predicted they would by themselves. Hell, they got the dwarf tyrant yapping about using nukes. Doesn’t sound like he’s about to overrun Ukraine to me.

Youve been right about nothing. As far as short people.. you seem fixated on that. Have you seen that little turd zelinsky. Come on.

I hope he doesnt flatten keiv for their sake.

Not another dime from us.

Obscene

When the dwarf actor now president invades another sovereign nation for spoils I’ll call him such. Meanwhile don’t get your panties in a wad that I call em like I see em. He is a dwarf tyrant. Sorry if that hurts your feelings. Probably one reason he invades his neighbors is to prop up his stature. The short guy syndrome. You know what I’m talking about, you read books.


And anyone on this planet that doesn’t realize the obscene thing here is the killing of hundreds of thousands of people by a madman just to inflate his ego. Hopefully this ends with him following Hitler’s path.

(11-19-2024 06:51 PM)Was SoMs Eagle Wrote:  

(11-19-2024 06:41 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(11-19-2024 06:37 PM)Was SoMs Eagle Wrote:  

(11-19-2024 06:14 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(11-19-2024 06:01 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  lol---when have they ALL ever supported something roughly 40% of Republicans also support?

Lotsa propaganda

Total folley

Yall real big on killing other peoples sons.

Ask them that. How many would cut a check for a thousand and send their 20 year old to die for frickin Ukraine.

Its obscene and disgusting

Talking about weapon sytems like they are toys andworld leaders like they are comic book villians.

Pathetic. Just pathetic.

I hope Trump stops this madness

Its not our business. All we do is pour gas on the fire.

Weve not learned a damn thing

Spare me the byllshite neville chamberlain hitler shite. Thats totally idiotic

Well done dumbarses.

Thought you didn’t care? Don’t lie about it. Makes you look like Tommie Bois.

And BTW, nobody has asked any American son to go over there and fight for Ukraine. They are doing much better than you predicted they would by themselves. Hell, they got the dwarf tyrant yapping about using nukes. Doesn’t sound like he’s about to overrun Ukraine to me.

Youve been right about nothing. As far as short people.. you seem fixated on that. Have you seen that little turd zelinsky. Come on.

I hope he doesnt flatten keiv for their sake.

Not another dime from us.

Obscene

When the dwarf actor now president invades another sovereign nation for spoils I’ll call him such. Meanwhile don’t get your panties in a wad that I call em like I see em. He is a dwarf tyrant. Sorry if that hurts your feelings. Probably one reason he invades his neighbors is to prop up his stature. The short guy syndrome. You know what I’m talking about, you read books.


And anyone on this planet that doesn’t realize the obscene thing here is the killing of hundreds of thousands of people by a madman just to inflate his ego. Hopefully this ends with him following Hitler’s path.

FFS

Childish simplistic. Youre a mind reader, a psychiatrist and a prophet

Hitlers path was a swath through Europe and world war.

Yeah. It might end up like that. Stupid Americans

(11-19-2024 06:42 PM)BartlettTigerFan Wrote:  But we are paying for it! Jfc. What don’t you people understand about that?

Obviously the people in power believe it is in our national interest. After all it is one of only a few things the constitution lays out that we should pay for.

And I never heard either of you or any other ZDS sufferers calling out Trump for sending them military aid. I think the Russian bots have managed to stir up some weak minds. Will you go ballistic if Trump sends them more to help the peace process along?

Save all your beetching and moaning for the idiots spending a hell of a lot more money than this on the freakin illegals. As a matter of fact you have no idea how much is being spent on them and I don’t either. All I know is it dwarfs the money being spent to bloody the dwarfed tyrants nose.