(08-20-2024 01:30 PM)tanqtonic Wrote:  I dont question their commitment to the uniform. I'll leave it to you to make hay about that.

I do.

I’ve been lied to boldly for the last eight years about what Trump has done and said.
Forgive me if I call bullchit. If you don’t like that it’s your fault.

As for the military, I do believe the lefts great Commander in Chief said no soldiers had died on his watch. I heard him. Not relying on hearsay. Quite the disrespect if you ask me.

So GFY all of you morons.

(08-20-2024 01:30 PM)tanqtonic Wrote:  

(08-20-2024 01:08 PM)b2b Wrote:  

(08-20-2024 01:02 PM)tanqtonic Wrote:  

(08-20-2024 12:49 PM)b2b Wrote:  

(08-20-2024 09:50 AM)oruvoice Wrote:  Like the decorated military folks who signed the letter about how the laptop was Russion disinformation? Honest folks like those?

Yep. It's why they shouldn't automatically get respect just b/c they're military. There's plenty of career bureuacrats and low life scumbags in there.

Actually they should. They volunteered to take on the uniform and the responsibility defense of our freedoms. Anyone and everyone in the military has done that.

From the MOH winner to the guy peeling potatoes.

And if low life scumbags, taking on that thing voluntarily is a positive checkmark -- no matter who they are. I respect the bejeesus not necessarily of the person overall, but out of that choice --- even *if* a scumbaor a low life bureaucrat. No matter who they might be.

C'mon man, do you honestly believe this person was "defending our freedoms"?



It's absolutely ridiculous to think that.

I take it you think someone's view on their own gender stance interferes with 'defending freedoms'. Sounds fun.

I dont necessarily agree with the stance on going trans undertaken by the person in pic -- that is their choice. Not my cup of tea.

I dont question their commitment to the uniform. I'll leave it to you to make hay about that.

Right, and the conservative trump loving military promoted her up the ranks...why exactly?

(08-20-2024 01:33 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(08-20-2024 01:30 PM)tanqtonic Wrote:  

(08-20-2024 01:08 PM)b2b Wrote:  

(08-20-2024 01:02 PM)tanqtonic Wrote:  

(08-20-2024 12:49 PM)b2b Wrote:  Yep. It's why they shouldn't automatically get respect just b/c they're military. There's plenty of career bureuacrats and low life scumbags in there.

Actually they should. They volunteered to take on the uniform and the responsibility defense of our freedoms. Anyone and everyone in the military has done that.

From the MOH winner to the guy peeling potatoes.

And if low life scumbags, taking on that thing voluntarily is a positive checkmark -- no matter who they are. I respect the bejeesus not necessarily of the person overall, but out of that choice --- even *if* a scumbaor a low life bureaucrat. No matter who they might be.

C'mon man, do you honestly believe this person was "defending our freedoms"?



It's absolutely ridiculous to think that.

I take it you think someone's view on their own gender stance interferes with 'defending freedoms'. Sounds fun.

I dont necessarily agree with the stance on going trans undertaken by the person in pic -- that is their choice. Not my cup of tea.

I dont question their commitment to the uniform. I'll leave it to you to make hay about that.

Right, and the conservative trump loving military promoted her up the ranks...why exactly?

Her?

(08-20-2024 01:24 PM)bearcat65 Wrote:  

(08-20-2024 11:29 AM)tanqtonic Wrote:  

(08-20-2024 09:46 AM)bearcat65 Wrote:  

(08-20-2024 09:16 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(08-20-2024 08:59 AM)bearcat65 Wrote:  Then why does the military like him so much better than the leftist scumbags? It isn't even close. I'd a helluva lot rather see a VP than some brain dead opportunist that's more interested in where he'd like to be than the ceremony at hand. In his defense though he may not have known where he was or what he was doing.

Do they?????

And you can keep beating the tired old talking point all you want, but. Biden has many faults, honoring service and sacrifice of the fallen is not one you're going to find many honest folk deride him for.

Anyone watching who saw him do that on the tarmac would but Biden or Harris could take a dump on Audie Murphy's grave and you would find a way to defend them for it.

Biden's looking at his watch was crass and indifferent. Absolutely. As well as disrespectful.

Trump verbally shitting on John McCain's service record was a verbal **** on pretty much every person who wears or wore the uniform.

Just recently, when Trump said it is the Presidential Freedom Medal is "better" than the Medal of Honor is another **** on anyone who has worn the uniform. Even more so when he explains it because the MOH recipients are shot up or dead, and the PFM recipients are 'beautiful'.

When you dissect Trump's comments on the MOH, it shows an absolute contempt for the *sacrifice* that those who wear and have worn the uniform expend -- solely *for* this country. Trump's current comments on the MOH arent all that different over the quoted comments of loser and sucker attributed to him about war dead.

Look, I mean no disparagement to the PFM -- it is quite an honor. But I would hope you all *seriously* doubt whether folks like Andrew Wyeth, Walt Disney, Bob Hope, Georgia O'Keefe, Hubert Humphrey, Jacques Cousteau, Tip O'Neill, Mr Rogers, Bill Cosby, Andy Griffith, Harvey Milk, Robert De Niro, Tiger Woods, Phil Donahue, or Michael Bloomberg stack up to the sacrifice and actions of Alvin York, John Basilone, Daniel Daly, Robert Booker, Roy Benavidez, Gary Gordon, or Randall Shughart.

Look, many of the winners of the PFM have done very good things. But in no way do they stack up in the slightest to the actions, and many times the sacrifice, of those bestowed the Medal of Honor.

Trump saying the PFM is better, *because* the recipients arent shot up or killed is a micrometer away from what the terms of 'loser' and 'sucker' you all defend him stridently for.

Given Trump's predeliction for that fundamental disrespect -- I am surprised that you all dont even consider whether Kelly's statement is truthful. Seems to me Trump has a good history of saying stuff that ***** completely on military service. I am not surprised on Kelly's comments on 'sucker' and 'loser' with that studied record. And in addition to Kelly, there are 5 other unnamed sources to the comments.

I don't lend a lot of credence to much of this stuff because there have been so many lies and mis representations of what Trump has said over the years that it no longer really has an impact.
Trump says he would rather get the MOF versus the MOH. Is he really saying that the MOF is more prestigious than the MOH or is he saying he would rather not go thru what a person goes thru to earn a MOH. Look at the recipients and what the circumstances were that they got the award for. Not many sane people would want to go thru that and if you asked the people that went thru it they likely wouldn't want to go thru it again. Read up on the effects the war had on Audie Murphy.


If Trump made the loser and sucker comment then it was a despicable comment. If he is implying that winning the MOF is more prestigious than the MOH then he again is making a despicable comment but given how the reaction is to whatever he says I take it with a grain of salt.

He said it was "better". At least twice. And followed it with 'at least equal'. And said it was "better" because the recipients are better off. I suggest you look at the video of the event. And his 'defense' the day after.

No. It simply isnt "better". Nor is it "at least equal". It doesnt come close. I will give the PMF recipients (for the most part) respect for the various achievements. (Maybe not Bill Cosby, though). But there is zero comparison between the two.

Precisely because of the issues you bring up.

(08-20-2024 01:32 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(08-20-2024 01:30 PM)tanqtonic Wrote:  I dont question their commitment to the uniform. I'll leave it to you to make hay about that.

I do.

Which is your right to. Something, funny enough, her wearing that uniform is one of those acts protecting your right to do so. Imagine that.

Plenty of people fail upward. The military is essentially a massive bureaucracy. I don't think the majority of them are "fighting for our freedoms." I guess the last time I'd say they were all definitely doing that was back in WW2. Plenty are just in there for the paycheck and benefits, especially the button pushers. I've known enough ex-military and current who agree w/ me. They don't just automatically get respect from me. SEALs, Marines, Recon, Rangers, Green Berets, AF Special warfare.... absolute respect, no doubt about it.

(08-20-2024 01:38 PM)tanqtonic Wrote:  

(08-20-2024 01:32 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(08-20-2024 01:30 PM)tanqtonic Wrote:  I dont question their commitment to the uniform. I'll leave it to you to make hay about that.

I do.

Something, funny enough, her wearing that uniform is one of those acts protecting your right to do so.

Her? LMAO!

You do realize that's a man, dressed as a woman, right?

They may very well be there for the paycheck and benefits. It still doesnt detract from the responsibility they chose to undertake.

As noted, the person wearing the uniform doesnt get the respect -- it is their choice to undertake that responsibility, that helps me in the long run, that earns the respect.

And you are more than free to disagree with that, and selectively pooh pooh the choice.

(08-20-2024 01:40 PM)oruvoice Wrote:  

(08-20-2024 01:38 PM)tanqtonic Wrote:  

(08-20-2024 01:32 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(08-20-2024 01:30 PM)tanqtonic Wrote:  I dont question their commitment to the uniform. I'll leave it to you to make hay about that.

I do.

Something, funny enough, her wearing that uniform is one of those acts protecting your right to do so.

Her? LMAO!

You do realize that's a man, dressed as a woman, right?

I personally dont give a ****. Not surprised it is a big deal to your bigoted point of view.

(08-20-2024 01:43 PM)tanqtonic Wrote:  

(08-20-2024 01:40 PM)oruvoice Wrote:  

(08-20-2024 01:38 PM)tanqtonic Wrote:  

(08-20-2024 01:32 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(08-20-2024 01:30 PM)tanqtonic Wrote:  I dont question their commitment to the uniform. I'll leave it to you to make hay about that.

I do.

Something, funny enough, her wearing that uniform is one of those acts protecting your right to do so.

Her? LMAO!

You do realize that's a man, dressed as a woman, right?

I personally dont give a ****. Not surprised it is a big deal to your bigoted point of view.

It has nothing to do with being a bigot. If dudes want to dress like women, that's fine. It has to do with being honest. Something, you and most on the left, like to talk about but don't actually practice yourselves. That. Is. A. Man. Period.

You can tell yourself and everyone you know, that it's a woman. But, the objective truth is that is a man, dressed like a woman. If you say otherwise, you are mentally deficient or just a liar. You're one or the other.

(08-20-2024 01:48 PM)oruvoice Wrote:  

(08-20-2024 01:43 PM)tanqtonic Wrote:  

(08-20-2024 01:40 PM)oruvoice Wrote:  

(08-20-2024 01:38 PM)tanqtonic Wrote:  

(08-20-2024 01:32 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  I do.

Something, funny enough, her wearing that uniform is one of those acts protecting your right to do so.

Her? LMAO!

You do realize that's a man, dressed as a woman, right?

I personally dont give a ****. Not surprised it is a big deal to your bigoted point of view.

It has nothing to do with being a bigot. If dudes want to dress like women, that's fine. It has to do with being honest. Something, you and most on the left, like to talk about but don't actually practice yourselves. That. Is. A. Man. Period.

You can tell yourself and everyone you know, that it's a woman. But, the objective turth is that is a man, dressed like a woman. If you say otherwise, you are mentally deficient or just a liar. You're one or the other.

Great. If yelling "its a man who has to dress like a woman" is the thing that makes you feel best about yourself and the world in general -- you be you.

I dont give a **** if they are a man, woman, neuter, hermaphrodite, or third sex space alien.

Apparently since they are a man dressed like a woman, that is huge part of your reason to existence. Have fun there. And - that has everything to do of not just being a bigot, but proudly telling the world you are one. Good for you.

(08-20-2024 01:36 PM)tanqtonic Wrote:  

(08-20-2024 01:24 PM)bearcat65 Wrote:  

(08-20-2024 11:29 AM)tanqtonic Wrote:  

(08-20-2024 09:46 AM)bearcat65 Wrote:  

(08-20-2024 09:16 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Do they?????

And you can keep beating the tired old talking point all you want, but. Biden has many faults, honoring service and sacrifice of the fallen is not one you're going to find many honest folk deride him for.

Anyone watching who saw him do that on the tarmac would but Biden or Harris could take a dump on Audie Murphy's grave and you would find a way to defend them for it.

Biden's looking at his watch was crass and indifferent. Absolutely. As well as disrespectful.

Trump verbally shitting on John McCain's service record was a verbal **** on pretty much every person who wears or wore the uniform.

Just recently, when Trump said it is the Presidential Freedom Medal is "better" than the Medal of Honor is another **** on anyone who has worn the uniform. Even more so when he explains it because the MOH recipients are shot up or dead, and the PFM recipients are 'beautiful'.

When you dissect Trump's comments on the MOH, it shows an absolute contempt for the *sacrifice* that those who wear and have worn the uniform expend -- solely *for* this country. Trump's current comments on the MOH arent all that different over the quoted comments of loser and sucker attributed to him about war dead.

Look, I mean no disparagement to the PFM -- it is quite an honor. But I would hope you all *seriously* doubt whether folks like Andrew Wyeth, Walt Disney, Bob Hope, Georgia O'Keefe, Hubert Humphrey, Jacques Cousteau, Tip O'Neill, Mr Rogers, Bill Cosby, Andy Griffith, Harvey Milk, Robert De Niro, Tiger Woods, Phil Donahue, or Michael Bloomberg stack up to the sacrifice and actions of Alvin York, John Basilone, Daniel Daly, Robert Booker, Roy Benavidez, Gary Gordon, or Randall Shughart.

Look, many of the winners of the PFM have done very good things. But in no way do they stack up in the slightest to the actions, and many times the sacrifice, of those bestowed the Medal of Honor.

Trump saying the PFM is better, *because* the recipients arent shot up or killed is a micrometer away from what the terms of 'loser' and 'sucker' you all defend him stridently for.

Given Trump's predeliction for that fundamental disrespect -- I am surprised that you all dont even consider whether Kelly's statement is truthful. Seems to me Trump has a good history of saying stuff that ***** completely on military service. I am not surprised on Kelly's comments on 'sucker' and 'loser' with that studied record. And in addition to Kelly, there are 5 other unnamed sources to the comments.

I don't lend a lot of credence to much of this stuff because there have been so many lies and mis representations of what Trump has said over the years that it no longer really has an impact.
Trump says he would rather get the MOF versus the MOH. Is he really saying that the MOF is more prestigious than the MOH or is he saying he would rather not go thru what a person goes thru to earn a MOH. Look at the recipients and what the circumstances were that they got the award for. Not many sane people would want to go thru that and if you asked the people that went thru it they likely wouldn't want to go thru it again. Read up on the effects the war had on Audie Murphy.


If Trump made the loser and sucker comment then it was a despicable comment. If he is implying that winning the MOF is more prestigious than the MOH then he again is making a despicable comment but given how the reaction is to whatever he says I take it with a grain of salt.

He said it was "better". At least twice. And followed it with 'at least equal'. And said it was "better" because the recipients are better off. I suggest you look at the video of the event. And his 'defense' the day after.

No. It simply isnt "better". Nor is it "at least equal". It doesnt come close. I will give the PMF recipients (for the most part) respect for the various achievements. (Maybe not Bill Cosby, though). But there is zero comparison between the two.

Precisely because of the issues you bring up.

For the reasons I stated he's right with regard to the recipients being better off. Chances are they don't have PTSD, combat wounds, or nightmares about seeing people tore to pieces.
The at least equal statement is not very smart.

(08-20-2024 01:53 PM)tanqtonic Wrote:  

(08-20-2024 01:48 PM)oruvoice Wrote:  

(08-20-2024 01:43 PM)tanqtonic Wrote:  

(08-20-2024 01:40 PM)oruvoice Wrote:  

(08-20-2024 01:38 PM)tanqtonic Wrote:  Something, funny enough, her wearing that uniform is one of those acts protecting your right to do so.

Her? LMAO!

You do realize that's a man, dressed as a woman, right?

I personally dont give a ****. Not surprised it is a big deal to your bigoted point of view.

It has nothing to do with being a bigot. If dudes want to dress like women, that's fine. It has to do with being honest. Something, you and most on the left, like to talk about but don't actually practice yourselves. That. Is. A. Man. Period.

You can tell yourself and everyone you know, that it's a woman. But, the objective turth is that is a man, dressed like a woman. If you say otherwise, you are mentally deficient or just a liar. You're one or the other.

Great. If yelling "its a man who has to dress like a woman" is the thing that makes you feel best about yourself and the world in general -- you be you.

I dont give a **** if they are a man, woman, neuter, hermaphrodite, or third sex space alien.

Apparently since they are a man dressed like a woman, that is huge part of your reason to existence. Have fun there.

It has nothing to do with me. It has to do with people who willingly lie about something so simple, then cry that the Orange man "lies".

Never saw your response to my question about the 50 "trustworthy" folks that said the laptop was Russian disinformation. Those "respected" public servants and military personnel lied. Knew they were lying. And, never recanted. Strange that you don't seem upset about that, but get really mad when I call a man, a man.

Anyone heard from Hambone? Haven't seen any Post from him on this Board in awhile.

(08-20-2024 01:53 PM)bearcat65 Wrote:  

(08-20-2024 01:36 PM)tanqtonic Wrote:  

(08-20-2024 01:24 PM)bearcat65 Wrote:  

(08-20-2024 11:29 AM)tanqtonic Wrote:  

(08-20-2024 09:46 AM)bearcat65 Wrote:  Anyone watching who saw him do that on the tarmac would but Biden or Harris could take a dump on Audie Murphy's grave and you would find a way to defend them for it.

Biden's looking at his watch was crass and indifferent. Absolutely. As well as disrespectful.

Trump verbally shitting on John McCain's service record was a verbal **** on pretty much every person who wears or wore the uniform.

Just recently, when Trump said it is the Presidential Freedom Medal is "better" than the Medal of Honor is another **** on anyone who has worn the uniform. Even more so when he explains it because the MOH recipients are shot up or dead, and the PFM recipients are 'beautiful'.

When you dissect Trump's comments on the MOH, it shows an absolute contempt for the *sacrifice* that those who wear and have worn the uniform expend -- solely *for* this country. Trump's current comments on the MOH arent all that different over the quoted comments of loser and sucker attributed to him about war dead.

Look, I mean no disparagement to the PFM -- it is quite an honor. But I would hope you all *seriously* doubt whether folks like Andrew Wyeth, Walt Disney, Bob Hope, Georgia O'Keefe, Hubert Humphrey, Jacques Cousteau, Tip O'Neill, Mr Rogers, Bill Cosby, Andy Griffith, Harvey Milk, Robert De Niro, Tiger Woods, Phil Donahue, or Michael Bloomberg stack up to the sacrifice and actions of Alvin York, John Basilone, Daniel Daly, Robert Booker, Roy Benavidez, Gary Gordon, or Randall Shughart.

Look, many of the winners of the PFM have done very good things. But in no way do they stack up in the slightest to the actions, and many times the sacrifice, of those bestowed the Medal of Honor.

Trump saying the PFM is better, *because* the recipients arent shot up or killed is a micrometer away from what the terms of 'loser' and 'sucker' you all defend him stridently for.

Given Trump's predeliction for that fundamental disrespect -- I am surprised that you all dont even consider whether Kelly's statement is truthful. Seems to me Trump has a good history of saying stuff that ***** completely on military service. I am not surprised on Kelly's comments on 'sucker' and 'loser' with that studied record. And in addition to Kelly, there are 5 other unnamed sources to the comments.

I don't lend a lot of credence to much of this stuff because there have been so many lies and mis representations of what Trump has said over the years that it no longer really has an impact.
Trump says he would rather get the MOF versus the MOH. Is he really saying that the MOF is more prestigious than the MOH or is he saying he would rather not go thru what a person goes thru to earn a MOH. Look at the recipients and what the circumstances were that they got the award for. Not many sane people would want to go thru that and if you asked the people that went thru it they likely wouldn't want to go thru it again. Read up on the effects the war had on Audie Murphy.


If Trump made the loser and sucker comment then it was a despicable comment. If he is implying that winning the MOF is more prestigious than the MOH then he again is making a despicable comment but given how the reaction is to whatever he says I take it with a grain of salt.

He said it was "better". At least twice. And followed it with 'at least equal'. And said it was "better" because the recipients are better off. I suggest you look at the video of the event. And his 'defense' the day after.

No. It simply isnt "better". Nor is it "at least equal". It doesnt come close. I will give the PMF recipients (for the most part) respect for the various achievements. (Maybe not Bill Cosby, though). But there is zero comparison between the two.

Precisely because of the issues you bring up.

For the reasons I stated he's right with regard to the recipients being better off. Chances are they don't have PTSD, combat wounds, or nightmares about seeing people tore to pieces.
The at least equal statement is not very smart.

He said the award is "better". But please feel free to change the words he spoke.

(08-20-2024 02:38 PM)tanqtonic Wrote:  

(08-20-2024 01:53 PM)bearcat65 Wrote:  

(08-20-2024 01:36 PM)tanqtonic Wrote:  

(08-20-2024 01:24 PM)bearcat65 Wrote:  

(08-20-2024 11:29 AM)tanqtonic Wrote:  Biden's looking at his watch was crass and indifferent. Absolutely. As well as disrespectful.

Trump verbally shitting on John McCain's service record was a verbal **** on pretty much every person who wears or wore the uniform.

Just recently, when Trump said it is the Presidential Freedom Medal is "better" than the Medal of Honor is another **** on anyone who has worn the uniform. Even more so when he explains it because the MOH recipients are shot up or dead, and the PFM recipients are 'beautiful'.

When you dissect Trump's comments on the MOH, it shows an absolute contempt for the *sacrifice* that those who wear and have worn the uniform expend -- solely *for* this country. Trump's current comments on the MOH arent all that different over the quoted comments of loser and sucker attributed to him about war dead.

Look, I mean no disparagement to the PFM -- it is quite an honor. But I would hope you all *seriously* doubt whether folks like Andrew Wyeth, Walt Disney, Bob Hope, Georgia O'Keefe, Hubert Humphrey, Jacques Cousteau, Tip O'Neill, Mr Rogers, Bill Cosby, Andy Griffith, Harvey Milk, Robert De Niro, Tiger Woods, Phil Donahue, or Michael Bloomberg stack up to the sacrifice and actions of Alvin York, John Basilone, Daniel Daly, Robert Booker, Roy Benavidez, Gary Gordon, or Randall Shughart.

Look, many of the winners of the PFM have done very good things. But in no way do they stack up in the slightest to the actions, and many times the sacrifice, of those bestowed the Medal of Honor.

Trump saying the PFM is better, *because* the recipients arent shot up or killed is a micrometer away from what the terms of 'loser' and 'sucker' you all defend him stridently for.

Given Trump's predeliction for that fundamental disrespect -- I am surprised that you all dont even consider whether Kelly's statement is truthful. Seems to me Trump has a good history of saying stuff that ***** completely on military service. I am not surprised on Kelly's comments on 'sucker' and 'loser' with that studied record. And in addition to Kelly, there are 5 other unnamed sources to the comments.

I don't lend a lot of credence to much of this stuff because there have been so many lies and mis representations of what Trump has said over the years that it no longer really has an impact.
Trump says he would rather get the MOF versus the MOH. Is he really saying that the MOF is more prestigious than the MOH or is he saying he would rather not go thru what a person goes thru to earn a MOH. Look at the recipients and what the circumstances were that they got the award for. Not many sane people would want to go thru that and if you asked the people that went thru it they likely wouldn't want to go thru it again. Read up on the effects the war had on Audie Murphy.


If Trump made the loser and sucker comment then it was a despicable comment. If he is implying that winning the MOF is more prestigious than the MOH then he again is making a despicable comment but given how the reaction is to whatever he says I take it with a grain of salt.

He said it was "better". At least twice. And followed it with 'at least equal'. And said it was "better" because the recipients are better off. I suggest you look at the video of the event. And his 'defense' the day after.

No. It simply isnt "better". Nor is it "at least equal". It doesnt come close. I will give the PMF recipients (for the most part) respect for the various achievements. (Maybe not Bill Cosby, though). But there is zero comparison between the two.

Precisely because of the issues you bring up.

For the reasons I stated he's right with regard to the recipients being better off. Chances are they don't have PTSD, combat wounds, or nightmares about seeing people tore to pieces.
The at least equal statement is not very smart.

He said the award is "better". But please feel free to change the words he spoke.

I based that on the bolded part of your quote. What words were changed?

Interesting post, but then I saw who posted it and I am not surprised. Must be hard to have DTS...

(08-20-2024 01:43 PM)tanqtonic Wrote:  They may very well be there for the paycheck and benefits. It still doesnt detract from the responsibility they chose to undertake.

Unless they slink away when the time comes to be an actual soldier.

(08-20-2024 02:01 PM)oruvoice Wrote:  

(08-20-2024 01:53 PM)tanqtonic Wrote:  

(08-20-2024 01:48 PM)oruvoice Wrote:  

(08-20-2024 01:43 PM)tanqtonic Wrote:  

(08-20-2024 01:40 PM)oruvoice Wrote:  Her? LMAO!

You do realize that's a man, dressed as a woman, right?

I personally dont give a ****. Not surprised it is a big deal to your bigoted point of view.

It has nothing to do with being a bigot. If dudes want to dress like women, that's fine. It has to do with being honest. Something, you and most on the left, like to talk about but don't actually practice yourselves. That. Is. A. Man. Period.

You can tell yourself and everyone you know, that it's a woman. But, the objective turth is that is a man, dressed like a woman. If you say otherwise, you are mentally deficient or just a liar. You're one or the other.

Great. If yelling "its a man who has to dress like a woman" is the thing that makes you feel best about yourself and the world in general -- you be you.

I dont give a **** if they are a man, woman, neuter, hermaphrodite, or third sex space alien.

Apparently since they are a man dressed like a woman, that is huge part of your reason to existence. Have fun there.

It has nothing to do with me. It has to do with people who willingly lie about something so simple, then cry that the Orange man "lies".

Never saw your response to my question about the 50 "trustworthy" folks that said the laptop was Russian disinformation. Those "respected" public servants and military personnel lied. Knew they were lying. And, never recanted. Strange that you don't seem upset about that, but get really mad when I call a man, a man.

The letter specifically said that it "could" be disinformation. Again, please feel free to change the actual words.

From the letter itself: ""We want to emphasize that we do not know if the emails, provided to the New York Post by President Trump’s personal attorney Rudy Giuliani, are genuine or not and that we do not have evidence of Russian involvement..."

And if you can show that they knew at the time that they said it "could" be disinformation that they unambiguously knew that it was not -- I'll preach your tune.
I'll wait for your evidence that they unambiguously knew.

I will absolutely fault them that bulk of the letter says 'dont necessarily believe in the laptop.' And at most two paragraphs are 'we do not know'.

But it is a stretch of the evidence on hand to state that was a "lie". Your "belief" that it is a lie doesnt rise to the level of evidence, mind you.

Here is the letter so you can actually read the contents, and we are speaking from the same page. That is the hard actual letter versus what you have been told about it.

https://www.politico.com/f/?id=00000175-...9f9b330000

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As for your last point, Im just noting you being a bigot. Here is a definition of 'bigot' -- a person who is obstinately or unreasonably attached to a belief, opinion, or faction, especially one who is prejudiced against or antagonistic toward a person or people on the basis of their membership of a particular group.

You seem highly prejudiced against and antagonistic towards the 'man who dresses as a woman'. Seems to fit.

The original topic is that I simply do not care what gender a person identifies with when it comes to my respect for their service in the military. Apparently it makes a huge deal to you. Again -- pretty much seems to be the product of a bigoted mind.