RE: National Assoc. of Black Journalists To Host Conversation With Trump
(08-01-2024 01:30 PM)oruvoice Wrote:
(08-01-2024 01:26 PM)TripleA Wrote:
(08-01-2024 11:12 AM)WalkThePlank Wrote:
(08-01-2024 11:04 AM)TripleA Wrote:
(08-01-2024 10:50 AM)WalkThePlank Wrote: It's also about creating narratives out of thin air to distract from the main issues - cost of living, housing affordability, border, foreign wars, etc.
Unfortunately a strong subset of the population that eat up nonsense like this. Make everything personality driven, ad hominem, race, gender and vote like it's 1964.
Anyone who is basing their vote off of this type of stuff is a hard core Democrat voter anyway. He's not "losing voters."
Really? You don't think undecided voters watching on TV would react poorly to how he handled that situation? I think some would. The base loves it, but undecided voters are a different sell. They need to be convinced he's not just a bully, and that he can handle tough situations diplomatically.
I need to stop now. I'm beginning to sound like AM.
You can believe that someone does poor in an event, interview, etc. Do you base your vote entirely on that alone? I don’t think many people who are truly undecided are going to make their decision on that.
There will be so many more things that happen from now until October that will be on the minds of voters. It’s being blown way out of proportion because the media is propping up a candidate.
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Good grief. That's not what I said at all. I said Trump missed an opportunity to influence some undecided voters in his direction. Lots of things influence voters, but you should take advantage of every opportunity.
Most of his public appearances are Trump rallies. He can go full bombastic at those. But in a setting like this, he needs to figure out a less confrontational way to get across his points, especially when they come at you hard.
He had a real chance to contrast his style with that, and instead, he fired his whole arsenal in retaliation. That's fine for us Trumplets, as AM calls us. Not the best tact with undecided voters.
I'm not sure why that is so hard to understand.
You clearly haven't been around black men when they deal with black women. I promise you the black men thatwatched that were cheering him on, even if under their breath.
I'm clearly 77 years old and have probably been around a lot more black folks than most, since I did business consulting with all types of businesses, including black-owned ones. And every business I worked with had black execs, as many were military-industrial businesses.
You're likely right about a portion of the black men, but the opportunity at that event was the chance to influence black women.
RE: National Assoc. of Black Journalists To Host Conversation With Trump
(08-01-2024 01:35 PM)WalkThePlank Wrote:
(08-01-2024 01:26 PM)TripleA Wrote: Good grief. That's not what I said at all. I said Trump missed an opportunity to influence some undecided voters in his direction. Lots of things influence voters, but you should take advantage of every opportunity.
Most of his public appearances are Trump rallies. He can go full bombastic at those. But in a setting like this, he needs to figure out a less confrontational way to get across his points, especially when they come at you hard.
He had a real chance to contrast his style with that, and instead, he fired his whole arsenal in retaliation. That's fine for us Trumplets, as AM calls us. Not the best tact with undecided voters.
I'm not sure why that is so hard to understand.
I'm understanding fine. You're just assuming that he obviously did horrible, with no data or evidence to back that up yet. I'm not sure how it can even be measured with so much that has happened in the last month, so polling is very volatile at the moment after Butler,PA rally, Kamala replacing Biden, RNC done, and DNC coming up.
He will have plenty of opportunities moving forward and both candidates will have more gaffes and "moments of lost opportunity."
I don't think he did horrible. I simply think he could have handled that one question better. Harris Faulkner said the same. So did Sununu, the governor of New Hampshire. So did other Repubs.
I do agree he will have other opportunities. I just hope he figures out a different gear for some occasions, or some questions, that's all.
RE: National Assoc. of Black Journalists To Host Conversation With Trump
(08-01-2024 01:36 PM)TripleA Wrote:
(08-01-2024 01:30 PM)oruvoice Wrote:
(08-01-2024 01:26 PM)TripleA Wrote:
(08-01-2024 11:12 AM)WalkThePlank Wrote:
(08-01-2024 11:04 AM)TripleA Wrote: Really? You don't think undecided voters watching on TV would react poorly to how he handled that situation? I think some would. The base loves it, but undecided voters are a different sell. They need to be convinced he's not just a bully, and that he can handle tough situations diplomatically.
I need to stop now. I'm beginning to sound like AM.
You can believe that someone does poor in an event, interview, etc. Do you base your vote entirely on that alone? I don’t think many people who are truly undecided are going to make their decision on that.
There will be so many more things that happen from now until October that will be on the minds of voters. It’s being blown way out of proportion because the media is propping up a candidate.
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Good grief. That's not what I said at all. I said Trump missed an opportunity to influence some undecided voters in his direction. Lots of things influence voters, but you should take advantage of every opportunity.
Most of his public appearances are Trump rallies. He can go full bombastic at those. But in a setting like this, he needs to figure out a less confrontational way to get across his points, especially when they come at you hard.
He had a real chance to contrast his style with that, and instead, he fired his whole arsenal in retaliation. That's fine for us Trumplets, as AM calls us. Not the best tact with undecided voters.
I'm not sure why that is so hard to understand.
You clearly haven't been around black men when they deal with black women. I promise you the black men thatwatched that were cheering him on, even if under their breath.
I'm clearly 77 years old and have probably been around a lot more black folks than most, since I did business consulting with all types of businesses, including black-owned ones. And every business I worked with had black execs, as many were military-industrial businesses.
You're likely right about a portion of the black men, but the opportunity at that event was the chance to influence black women.
Maybe he should have taken the Romney approach of sniveling and groveling? It worked so well for old Mittens.
RE: National Assoc. of Black Journalists To Host Conversation With Trump
(08-01-2024 01:40 PM)TripleA Wrote:
(08-01-2024 01:35 PM)WalkThePlank Wrote:
(08-01-2024 01:26 PM)TripleA Wrote: Good grief. That's not what I said at all. I said Trump missed an opportunity to influence some undecided voters in his direction. Lots of things influence voters, but you should take advantage of every opportunity.
Most of his public appearances are Trump rallies. He can go full bombastic at those. But in a setting like this, he needs to figure out a less confrontational way to get across his points, especially when they come at you hard.
He had a real chance to contrast his style with that, and instead, he fired his whole arsenal in retaliation. That's fine for us Trumplets, as AM calls us. Not the best tact with undecided voters.
I'm not sure why that is so hard to understand.
I'm understanding fine. You're just assuming that he obviously did horrible, with no data or evidence to back that up yet. I'm not sure how it can even be measured with so much that has happened in the last month, so polling is very volatile at the moment after Butler,PA rally, Kamala replacing Biden, RNC done, and DNC coming up.
He will have plenty of opportunities moving forward and both candidates will have more gaffes and "moments of lost opportunity."
I don't think he did horrible. I simply think he could have handled that one question better. Harris Faulkner said the same. So did Sununu, the governor of New Hampshire. So did other Repubs.
I do agree he will have other opportunities. I just hope he figures out a different gear for some occasions, or some questions, that's all.
I for sure agree with you that he needs to stay on message, grab the low hanging fruit of how incompetent Harris is and don't give the media a chance to dominate the narrative.
RE: National Assoc. of Black Journalists To Host Conversation With Trump
(08-01-2024 01:42 PM)oruvoice Wrote:
(08-01-2024 01:36 PM)TripleA Wrote:
(08-01-2024 01:30 PM)oruvoice Wrote:
(08-01-2024 01:26 PM)TripleA Wrote:
(08-01-2024 11:12 AM)WalkThePlank Wrote: You can believe that someone does poor in an event, interview, etc. Do you base your vote entirely on that alone? I don’t think many people who are truly undecided are going to make their decision on that.
There will be so many more things that happen from now until October that will be on the minds of voters. It’s being blown way out of proportion because the media is propping up a candidate.
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Good grief. That's not what I said at all. I said Trump missed an opportunity to influence some undecided voters in his direction. Lots of things influence voters, but you should take advantage of every opportunity.
Most of his public appearances are Trump rallies. He can go full bombastic at those. But in a setting like this, he needs to figure out a less confrontational way to get across his points, especially when they come at you hard.
He had a real chance to contrast his style with that, and instead, he fired his whole arsenal in retaliation. That's fine for us Trumplets, as AM calls us. Not the best tact with undecided voters.
I'm not sure why that is so hard to understand.
You clearly haven't been around black men when they deal with black women. I promise you the black men thatwatched that were cheering him on, even if under their breath.
I'm clearly 77 years old and have probably been around a lot more black folks than most, since I did business consulting with all types of businesses, including black-owned ones. And every business I worked with had black execs, as many were military-industrial businesses.
You're likely right about a portion of the black men, but the opportunity at that event was the chance to influence black women.
Maybe he should have taken the Romney approach of sniveling and groveling? It worked so well for old Mittens.
I didn't say that, either. You can give a good strong answer without trying to turn the questioner into dust when you're trying to influence undecided voters.
Do you believe Trump ever uses too much ammo for any situation?
RE: National Assoc. of Black Journalists To Host Conversation With Trump
(08-01-2024 01:43 PM)WalkThePlank Wrote:
(08-01-2024 01:40 PM)TripleA Wrote:
(08-01-2024 01:35 PM)WalkThePlank Wrote:
(08-01-2024 01:26 PM)TripleA Wrote: Good grief. That's not what I said at all. I said Trump missed an opportunity to influence some undecided voters in his direction. Lots of things influence voters, but you should take advantage of every opportunity.
Most of his public appearances are Trump rallies. He can go full bombastic at those. But in a setting like this, he needs to figure out a less confrontational way to get across his points, especially when they come at you hard.
He had a real chance to contrast his style with that, and instead, he fired his whole arsenal in retaliation. That's fine for us Trumplets, as AM calls us. Not the best tact with undecided voters.
I'm not sure why that is so hard to understand.
I'm understanding fine. You're just assuming that he obviously did horrible, with no data or evidence to back that up yet. I'm not sure how it can even be measured with so much that has happened in the last month, so polling is very volatile at the moment after Butler,PA rally, Kamala replacing Biden, RNC done, and DNC coming up.
He will have plenty of opportunities moving forward and both candidates will have more gaffes and "moments of lost opportunity."
I don't think he did horrible. I simply think he could have handled that one question better. Harris Faulkner said the same. So did Sununu, the governor of New Hampshire. So did other Repubs.
I do agree he will have other opportunities. I just hope he figures out a different gear for some occasions, or some questions, that's all.
I for sure agree with you that he needs to stay on message, grab the low hanging fruit of how incompetent Harris is and don't give the media a chance to dominate the narrative.
Well, we agree on that. But I don't think Trump has a problem with most of that.
What I question is why he snapped back so hard and reinforced the idea with some that he's a bit of a hothead. The way he reacted is red meat to Dems, which is fine, but some undecided may buy it, as well.
I also question why he went after Kamala's race. Stick to the issues, not identity politics. Kamala has plenty of targets in her past without going down that road.
(This post was last modified: 08-01-2024 01:51 PM by TripleA.)
RE: National Assoc. of Black Journalists To Host Conversation With Trump
(08-01-2024 01:49 PM)TripleA Wrote:
(08-01-2024 01:43 PM)WalkThePlank Wrote:
(08-01-2024 01:40 PM)TripleA Wrote:
(08-01-2024 01:35 PM)WalkThePlank Wrote:
(08-01-2024 01:26 PM)TripleA Wrote: Good grief. That's not what I said at all. I said Trump missed an opportunity to influence some undecided voters in his direction. Lots of things influence voters, but you should take advantage of every opportunity.
Most of his public appearances are Trump rallies. He can go full bombastic at those. But in a setting like this, he needs to figure out a less confrontational way to get across his points, especially when they come at you hard.
He had a real chance to contrast his style with that, and instead, he fired his whole arsenal in retaliation. That's fine for us Trumplets, as AM calls us. Not the best tact with undecided voters.
I'm not sure why that is so hard to understand.
I'm understanding fine. You're just assuming that he obviously did horrible, with no data or evidence to back that up yet. I'm not sure how it can even be measured with so much that has happened in the last month, so polling is very volatile at the moment after Butler,PA rally, Kamala replacing Biden, RNC done, and DNC coming up.
He will have plenty of opportunities moving forward and both candidates will have more gaffes and "moments of lost opportunity."
I don't think he did horrible. I simply think he could have handled that one question better. Harris Faulkner said the same. So did Sununu, the governor of New Hampshire. So did other Repubs.
I do agree he will have other opportunities. I just hope he figures out a different gear for some occasions, or some questions, that's all.
I for sure agree with you that he needs to stay on message, grab the low hanging fruit of how incompetent Harris is and don't give the media a chance to dominate the narrative.
Well, we agree on that. But I don't think Trump has a problem with most of that.
What I question is why he snapped back so hard and reinforced the idea with some that he's a bit of a hothead. The way he reacted is red meat to Dems, which is fine, but some undecided may buy it, as well.
I also question why he went after Kamala's race. Stick to the issues, not identity politics. Kamala has plenty of targets without going down that road.
He didn't go after her race. At the end of the day nobody cares what she identifies as. He went after her dishonesty about how she portrays herself.
RE: National Assoc. of Black Journalists To Host Conversation With Trump
(08-01-2024 01:46 PM)TripleA Wrote:
(08-01-2024 01:42 PM)oruvoice Wrote:
(08-01-2024 01:36 PM)TripleA Wrote:
(08-01-2024 01:30 PM)oruvoice Wrote:
(08-01-2024 01:26 PM)TripleA Wrote: Good grief. That's not what I said at all. I said Trump missed an opportunity to influence some undecided voters in his direction. Lots of things influence voters, but you should take advantage of every opportunity.
Most of his public appearances are Trump rallies. He can go full bombastic at those. But in a setting like this, he needs to figure out a less confrontational way to get across his points, especially when they come at you hard.
He had a real chance to contrast his style with that, and instead, he fired his whole arsenal in retaliation. That's fine for us Trumplets, as AM calls us. Not the best tact with undecided voters.
I'm not sure why that is so hard to understand.
You clearly haven't been around black men when they deal with black women. I promise you the black men thatwatched that were cheering him on, even if under their breath.
I'm clearly 77 years old and have probably been around a lot more black folks than most, since I did business consulting with all types of businesses, including black-owned ones. And every business I worked with had black execs, as many were military-industrial businesses.
You're likely right about a portion of the black men, but the opportunity at that event was the chance to influence black women.
Maybe he should have taken the Romney approach of sniveling and groveling? It worked so well for old Mittens.
I didn't say that, either. You can give a good strong answer without trying to turn the questioner into dust when you're trying to influence undecided voters.
Do you believe Trump ever uses too much ammo for any situation?
When an interviewer starts with 2 minutes of berating him and calling him a racist, his response was perfect. Everyone agrees how perfect it was. In the history of answers, it was the most perfect answer and everyone says so.
RE: National Assoc. of Black Journalists To Host Conversation With Trump
(08-01-2024 01:52 PM)dbackjon Wrote:
(07-31-2024 07:14 PM)CardinalJim Wrote:
(07-31-2024 07:03 PM)dbackjon Wrote: HAHAHAHA
Harris is going to beat Trump worse than Biden did. Landslide. Only racists and traitors still support Trump
Democracy WAS almost lost on J6. I guess you like fascism and the end of the Constitution.
Know nothing about the issues, just spout the talking points of the day.
I know more about the issues than ANYONE voting for the OrangeTraitor
Your mental acuity is right on par with the other Dems on this board. You'll fit in nicely.
First thing you'll want to know is that your leader here is a guy named Thomas. He's originally from Ohio, but currently resides in Michigan. He holds an accounting degree from a distinguished junior college and is an expert on deductibles and the oil & gas industry. Oh, and if you want to get on his good side, send him a couple dozen donuts. He has a voracious appetite. You're welcome in advance.