(08-01-2024 08:10 AM)BigTigerMike Wrote:  

(08-01-2024 07:56 AM)TripleA Wrote:  

(08-01-2024 07:38 AM)shere khan Wrote:  

(08-01-2024 07:26 AM)MemTigers1998 Wrote:  I haven’t watched the interview but I can safely assume that Trump was far and away the smartest person in the room. Not a high bar to clear though

Yeah and he didnt pander. The abc chick asked him a rat court question and he called her on it.

Nobody mind was getting changed at that freak show

Disagree. Nobody's mind was changed at the event, but plenty of undecided minds watching on TV or reading about it later could have been changed.

He could have called her on it in a less confrontational and more diplomatic manner. If you think not, then you really aren't giving Trump much credit.

Look at Kamala. She is trying hard to run away from her entire record and lots of past comments.

All we needed Trump to do yesterday was be slightly more diplomatic in his answer to one question, and take the air out of the room, without turning into Kamala, and he missed the opportunity.

Trump just cannot react to any slight without firing cannons at it. You would hope that just for 3 months, he could figure that out. If so, he might be able to win handily. But so far, no...

If you think Trump messed up today, you really don't understand how to win against the media.

For 9 days, the media has had one narrative.

"Harris is the greatest thing since slice bread" To push that narrative, they have scrubbed her record, made up lies, sent Biden into retirement never to be seen again, pushed her astrotruf as organic support and on and on.

They would have kept doing it for the next 100 days. Many will still try.

Trump changed the narrative today. You can't change the narrative without controversy. You can't change the narrative without saying or doing something that the media is forced to refute or their narrative collapses.

They had to switch from promoting Harris to defending her.

He attacked on several fronts today at the press event, from Indian American to border czar, to bidenomocs impacting the black community, to energy policy. He questioned her truthfulness, her policies, the very narratives they had spun, and because of that, they were forced to defend instead of being on the offense.

He also sparked interest in his rally, where he surgically destructed the entire fake narrative on Harris to his supporters.

You can't do any of that by playing it safe. If he did that, the media would just ignore him like they have for the past 9 days, and the Harris narrative would be all we heard until the DNC convention......

Will it work? It has a better chance of working than playing it safe and being "Above the fray."

This is what it means to fight the good fight. Leave nothing on the table. Go for the jugular. He scored some major hits today.

-Unseen1_unseen


He’s right. All of this pearl clutching and hand wringing from ‘conservatives’ is silly. You don’t play along with their narrative out of fear of losing some phantom support — you’re just playing right in their hands [allow us to do this or that or we’ll call you racist or sexist, which we are already calling you anyway]

I suppose Harris Faulkner knows nothing about the media either, lol.

And I'm as far from pearl clutching as possible. Simply pointing out one minor thing he could have corrected to persuade more undecided voters. Seemed an innocent enough reaction, but apparently not in here.

You guys are the ones clutching pearls over the criticism of Trump.

(08-01-2024 08:10 AM)AdoptedMonarch Wrote:  I agree with 3A. It was a missed opportunity.

But on the upside, it could have been SO much worse. That Trump made his points while (for the most part) keeping his cool shows a maturing candidate. And in that small sense it was a marginal victory.

I agree with that. I just think he missed a chance in the beginning to be better. You would think I said I was voting for Kamala.

(08-01-2024 08:42 AM)WalkThePlank Wrote:  How do you "stop talking about it" when a journalist directly asks you about it? She asked a loaded question with multiple accusations and he answered it. As he should have.

Actually answer the question she asked...which was when you make the comments you have in the past like she cited...how do you expect black people to support you.

And, I don't know, maybe be a tad contrite and pivot a bit? But he can't as he's afraid that would offend his base.

And then he doubles down with more **** like this. He's just not capable.

The way she said it was contentious and making the claim he is racist. Anyone would get upset with that.

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When was the last time you've seen a "journalist" be so aggressive toward a leading Dem?

The "media" is being completely biased and some of y'all or mad because Trump doesn't go full Romney and become a sniveling weasel.

(07-31-2024 07:03 PM)dbackjon Wrote:  

(07-31-2024 06:28 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(07-31-2024 05:32 PM)JDTulane Wrote:  So in one interview he:

Doubled down on black jobs guffaw

Got actively hostile/combative with a black female journalist in the first minute of the sitdown, in a room full of black voters, on camera

Boasted he was "...the best president for the Black population since Abraham Lincoln"

Failed to definitively condemn the idea that KH is a DEI hire

Supported pardoning the J6 rioters that actively injured police officers, including them as patriots alongside other attendees

Came for KH's biracial status (in a room full of black/biracial audience members) with statements like "turned black"

Could only describe the murder of Sonya Massey as "didn't look good to me" and gave a mouth full of marbles response to police immunity

And people on this board think it was at worst cringey and some thought he did well. LOL?! And people on this board thought he would carry the black vote in greater numbers than last time. "When someone shows you who they are, believe them the first time."

This is why Harris is probably going to lose by as bad a margin as Biden was headed for. They asked about cop shootings, racism, microagressions, J6, etc. The American people---including African Americans---are far more worried about crime, cheap illegal immigrant labor forcing down wages among the working middle and lower class, high inflation, high cost of living, housing affordability, job insecurity, border security, and a world on fire internationally. Please please please keep the Democrats focusing on J6 and racism for a few more months. Democrats cant win on the real issues----which is why all they have is stupidity like "Russia-Russia-Russia" and the "J6---our democracy was almost lost" narrative.

HAHAHAHA

Harris is going to beat Trump worse than Biden did. Landslide. Only racists and traitors still support Trump


Democracy WAS almost lost on J6. I guess you like fascism and the end of the Constitution.

You would have to be dumber than a bag of hammers to think a couple of thousand middle aged folks armed with plastic flag poles and walking canes could end our democracy. The same morons who are worried about democracy just staged a quiet coup against a sitting president and effectively threw 14 million ballots in the trash. In doing so, the Democrat Party’s “saving democracy” argument has been rendered dead as a door nail.

(08-01-2024 09:58 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(08-01-2024 08:42 AM)WalkThePlank Wrote:  How do you "stop talking about it" when a journalist directly asks you about it? She asked a loaded question with multiple accusations and he answered it. As he should have.

Actually answer the question she asked...which was when you make the comments you have in the past like she cited...how do you expect black people to support you.

And, I don't know, maybe be a tad contrite and pivot a bit? But he can't as he's afraid that would offend his base.

And then he doubles down with more **** like this. He's just not capable.

you wanna run on identity politics ...
he should shove it up your ass ...

HOVER OVER TARGET

(08-01-2024 10:15 AM)green Wrote:  

(08-01-2024 09:58 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(08-01-2024 08:42 AM)WalkThePlank Wrote:  How do you "stop talking about it" when a journalist directly asks you about it? She asked a loaded question with multiple accusations and he answered it. As he should have.

Actually answer the question she asked...which was when you make the comments you have in the past like she cited...how do you expect black people to support you.

And, I don't know, maybe be a tad contrite and pivot a bit? But he can't as he's afraid that would offend his base.

And then he doubles down with more **** like this. He's just not capable.

you wanna run on identity politics ...
he should shove it up your ass ...

HOVER OVER TARGET

SEEK HELP

(08-01-2024 10:02 AM)hburg Wrote:  The way she said it was contentious and making the claim he is racist. Anyone would get upset with that.

If trump loses his cool over a weak woman reporter's question, how is he supposed to handle world leaders?

(08-01-2024 10:17 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(08-01-2024 10:15 AM)green Wrote:  

(08-01-2024 09:58 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(08-01-2024 08:42 AM)WalkThePlank Wrote:  How do you "stop talking about it" when a journalist directly asks you about it? She asked a loaded question with multiple accusations and he answered it. As he should have.

Actually answer the question she asked...which was when you make the comments you have in the past like she cited...how do you expect black people to support you.

And, I don't know, maybe be a tad contrite and pivot a bit? But he can't as he's afraid that would offend his base.

And then he doubles down with more **** like this. He's just not capable.

you wanna run on identity politics ...
he should shove it up your ass ...

HOVER OVER TARGET

SEEK HELP

YOU FIRST

(08-01-2024 08:35 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(08-01-2024 08:30 AM)VA49er Wrote:  

(08-01-2024 08:27 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(08-01-2024 08:04 AM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  

(08-01-2024 07:48 AM)TripleA Wrote:  Because Trump was told initially that Biden would be there, and then Kamala, who backed out at the last minute due to Sheila Jackson Lee's funeral.

However, that is a five day affair, and she could easily have made the NABJ event. It was just an excuse on her part not to answer questions, or be on a stage with Trump.

Trump didn't know any of that until he walked out on the stage, so he was ambushed.

The Christian's had better odds against the lions in the coliseum.

Just a complete waste of time that did nothing but give the left talking points.

Unless the intent all along was to play his race/birther card for his base.

He hasn't figured out how to attack Harris yet...he better find out quickly.

My guess is he will be called racist no matter how he goes after Harris.

Well, if yesterday is any indication...he deserves that moniker. And it's not like he doesn't have a history. Central Park 5, Indian Casinos, Redlining, etc.

It's really ******* simple. Stop talking about where she was born and who her parents were.

Well, she does seem to change her identity according to what she wants politically.

Trump had 4years of peace and was withdrawing safely from Afghanistan. Then comes Biden /Harris and everything goes to the crapper. Failed withdraw from Afghanistan, wars in the Mideast, war in Europe, borders in chaos....the list of failures from the Biden Harris cabinet are enormous.

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(08-01-2024 10:18 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(08-01-2024 10:02 AM)hburg Wrote:  The way she said it was contentious and making the claim he is racist. Anyone would get upset with that.

If trump loses his cool over a weak woman reporter's question, how is he supposed to handle world leaders?

Hopefully just like he did in his first term.

(08-01-2024 09:58 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(08-01-2024 08:42 AM)WalkThePlank Wrote:  How do you "stop talking about it" when a journalist directly asks you about it? She asked a loaded question with multiple accusations and he answered it. As he should have.

Actually answer the question she asked...which was when you make the comments you have in the past like she cited...how do you expect black people to support you.

And, I don't know, maybe be a tad contrite and pivot a bit? But he can't as he's afraid that would offend his base.

And then he doubles down with more **** like this. He's just not capable.

He gave an answer and tried to pivot to his economic record with minorities, which is a valid response that resonates more with people who are actually thinking about voting for him.

And he's not incorrect about her heritage. You can pretend to be offended by it, but what he said was 100% accurate. Anyone basing their vote off that is moronic to begin with. Same thing with the Vance/Cat lady saga.

Libs are just mad that Kamala’s crafted honeymoon narrative is being challenged and now they have to defend it

(08-01-2024 10:45 AM)BigTigerMike Wrote:  Libs are just mad that Kamala’s crafted honeymoon narrative is being challenged and now they have to defend it

It's also about creating narratives out of thin air to distract from the main issues - cost of living, housing affordability, border, foreign wars, etc.

Unfortunately a strong subset of the population that eat up nonsense like this. Make everything personality driven, ad hominem, race, gender and vote like it's 1964.

Anyone who is basing their vote off of this type of stuff is a hard core Democrat voter anyway. He's not "losing voters."

Harris Faulkner just said that she believes there was nothing actually wrong with the audio system, and the long delay at the beginning (35-45 minutes), and the inability of Trump to hear Faulkner across the stage, was the result of "shenanigans" by those running the audio.

I also went back and listened to the first question. It really was an all out attack, and certainly out of line with the proposed agenda of the event, and should never have happened, so it's understandable that Trump would get upset by it.

All I'm saying, which seems to offend some here, is that he should figure out how to react to barbs without firing cannons shots every single time. That would help his effort with undecided voters.

It doesn't seem like an unreasonable ask, lol. He actually has toned it down quite a bit, especially right after the assassination attempt and at the RNC, so he is capable of doing it. Responding differently to different situations requires changing your approach from time to time to be the most effective with your audience.

If you prefer him to just bull his way through everything, b/c you want "Trump to be Trump," all I can say is he is missing an opportunity to win over undecided voters.

(08-01-2024 10:50 AM)WalkThePlank Wrote:  

(08-01-2024 10:45 AM)BigTigerMike Wrote:  Libs are just mad that Kamala’s crafted honeymoon narrative is being challenged and now they have to defend it

It's also about creating narratives out of thin air to distract from the main issues - cost of living, housing affordability, border, foreign wars, etc.

Unfortunately a strong subset of the population that eat up nonsense like this. Make everything personality driven, ad hominem, race, gender and vote like it's 1964.

Anyone who is basing their vote off of this type of stuff is a hard core Democrat voter anyway. He's not "losing voters."

Really? You don't think undecided voters watching on TV would react poorly to how he handled that situation? I think some would. The base loves it, but undecided voters are a different sell. They need to be convinced he's not just a bully, and that he can handle tough situations diplomatically.

I need to stop now. I'm beginning to sound like AM.

(08-01-2024 11:04 AM)TripleA Wrote:  

(08-01-2024 10:50 AM)WalkThePlank Wrote:  

(08-01-2024 10:45 AM)BigTigerMike Wrote:  Libs are just mad that Kamala’s crafted honeymoon narrative is being challenged and now they have to defend it

It's also about creating narratives out of thin air to distract from the main issues - cost of living, housing affordability, border, foreign wars, etc.

Unfortunately a strong subset of the population that eat up nonsense like this. Make everything personality driven, ad hominem, race, gender and vote like it's 1964.

Anyone who is basing their vote off of this type of stuff is a hard core Democrat voter anyway. He's not "losing voters."

Really? You don't think undecided voters watching on TV would react poorly to how he handled that situation? I think some would. The base loves it, but undecided voters are a different sell. They need to be convinced he's not just a bully, and that he can handle tough situations diplomatically.

I need to stop now. I'm beginning to sound like AM.

You can believe that someone does poor in an event, interview, etc. Do you base your vote entirely on that alone? I don’t think many people who are truly undecided are going to make their decision on that.

There will be so many more things that happen from now until October that will be on the minds of voters. It’s being blown way out of proportion because the media is propping up a candidate.


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