CrimsonPhantom
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Merchan breaks jury into 3 groups to weigh charges against Trump
Quote:As the jury deliberates a verdict in former President Donald Trump's Manhattan case regarding falsified business records, Judge Juan Merchan has divided the jury into three groups to deliberate. The District Attorney's office elevated the falsification of business records charges to felonies from misdemeanors, alleging that this was done in the commission of another crime.
One group will weigh the issue of election fraud, another on tax fraud, and the third on falsification of business records. "To go further on this ABSURD instruction, the 'Honorable Judge' is splitting the jury up into 3 groups of 4. One group will handle election fraud, one tax fraud, and the third falsification of business records," Andrew Giuliani wrote.
Judge Merchan has also reportedly informed the jury that unanimity on the second crime is not required to convict Trump and that he will handle 4-4-4 as a unanimous verdict.
Closing arguments in the case were made on Tuesday, and the jury received instructions from Judge Merchan on Wednesday to begin their deliberations. Merchan also advised the jury to avoid speculating about matters related to sentencing, keeping their focus solely on the evidence and charges presented.
Trump’s defense team argued during a May 21 hearing that the jury should be required to agree on a "predicate" crime to find Trump guilty of the felony charges. Prosecutor Matthew Colangelo said that the law does not require jurors to do that. Merchan agreed with the prosecution.
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CrimsonPhantom
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RE: Merchan breaks jury into 3 groups to weigh charges against Trump
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RE: Merchan breaks jury into 3 groups to weigh charges against Trump
Is this even legal?
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RE: Merchan breaks jury into 3 groups to weigh charges against Trump
(05-29-2024 01:16 PM)b2b Wrote: Is this even legal?
This judge is that kid in your neighborhood that always changed the rules of whatever game you were playing if he wasn't winning.
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RE: Merchan breaks jury into 3 groups to weigh charges against Trump
I served on a Jury last week, this is total BS.
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RE: Merchan breaks jury into 3 groups to weigh charges against Trump
(05-29-2024 01:20 PM)Chappy Wrote: (05-29-2024 01:16 PM)b2b Wrote: Is this even legal?
This judge is that kid in your neighborhood that always changed the rules of whatever game you were playing if he wasn't winning.
You can probably find that in the urban dictionary under "Pulling A Tom".
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RE: Merchan breaks jury into 3 groups to weigh charges against Trump
Going to go to SCOTUS, for sure.
Merchan needs to be disbarred.
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RE: Merchan breaks jury into 3 groups to weigh charges against Trump
(05-29-2024 01:16 PM)b2b Wrote: Is this even legal?
No but that’s beside the point. For now they just want at least 1 convictions so as to run the label ‘convicted felon’ during the campaign in hopes it turns the tide for Biden. They could care less if this is overturned later on in the appeals process or the judge gets blasted over it
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RE: Merchan breaks jury into 3 groups to weigh charges against Trump
I’ve never heard of anything like I just read.
Please explain the filth and corruption Tanq?
Hard to be lawful morally upright when you are sleazy and slimy.
Repulsive at best. And Liberals just sat quiet just like those in Nazi Germany.
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RE: Merchan breaks jury into 3 groups to weigh charges against Trump
I don't think I'd ever put much stock in anything that worthless spawn of Rudy spews.
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RE: Merchan breaks jury into 3 groups to weigh charges against Trump
I have no argument for what is happening, I just know that anyone with the last name Guliani is bad.
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RE: Merchan breaks jury into 3 groups to weigh charges against Trump
(05-29-2024 01:06 PM)CrimsonPhantom Wrote: Quote:As the jury deliberates a verdict in former President Donald Trump's Manhattan case regarding falsified business records, Judge Juan Merchan has divided the jury into three groups to deliberate. The District Attorney's office elevated the falsification of business records charges to felonies from misdemeanors, alleging that this was done in the commission of another crime.
One group will weigh the issue of election fraud, another on tax fraud, and the third on falsification of business records. "To go further on this ABSURD instruction, the 'Honorable Judge' is splitting the jury up into 3 groups of 4. One group will handle election fraud, one tax fraud, and the third falsification of business records," Andrew Giuliani wrote.
Judge Merchan has also reportedly informed the jury that unanimity on the second crime is not required to convict Trump and that he will handle 4-4-4 as a unanimous verdict.
Closing arguments in the case were made on Tuesday, and the jury received instructions from Judge Merchan on Wednesday to begin their deliberations. Merchan also advised the jury to avoid speculating about matters related to sentencing, keeping their focus solely on the evidence and charges presented.
Trump’s defense team argued during a May 21 hearing that the jury should be required to agree on a "predicate" crime to find Trump guilty of the felony charges. Prosecutor Matthew Colangelo said that the law does not require jurors to do that. Merchan agreed with the prosecution.
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lol---so the judge has set it up where he can at least get one guilty verdict with only 4 jurors in agreement. If I were Trump, Id make it my business to absolutely ruin this guy with my DOJ and IRS once this kangaroo court is thrown out on appeal.
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RE: Merchan breaks jury into 3 groups to weigh charges against Trump
This is so ridiculous. Any American citizen should not support this nonsense. When Trump's inevitable conviction is announced I'm sure an appeal will be quick.
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RE: Merchan breaks jury into 3 groups to weigh charges against Trump
(05-29-2024 01:50 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:
I'm surprised Asha has time to put out new tweets. She's been busy the past few days modifying tweets and articles in order to not get sued by Julie Kelly.
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RE: Merchan breaks jury into 3 groups to weigh charges against Trump
Quote:Putting something in all caps with several exclamation points doesn't make it more true.
The jury has to all agree that Trump falsified business records. That is the core crime of this case.
For the felony charge to apply, the falsification of business records needed to happen because of an effort to cover up another crime.
The jury doesn't have to agree on the specific crime that was trying to be covered up, just that there was an attempt to cover up a crime.
That is what the case has always been about Mr. Rubio. Shouting and stomping your feet at the end of the trial doesn't change a thing.
https://x.com/JaredRyanSears/status/1795855599034397071
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RE: Merchan breaks jury into 3 groups to weigh charges against Trump
PAPER American
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RE: Merchan breaks jury into 3 groups to weigh charges against Trump
(05-29-2024 01:50 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:
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me, I couldn't give two fks (other than sig line 4 chops) ... I see ewe fagoos droppin' the dime bag on Aug. 22 .... about 2 years I've pined that 'guy'....
lookie lookie ... ewe're muh 500, paco....
@>270EVsBlueBakedInn(500) and/or moo-moo-chelle (aka big mike) if all else fails by Aug. 22, 2024 ...  (AM)
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RE: Merchan breaks jury into 3 groups to weigh charges against Trump
Tom has had a busy few days. After getting his ass handed to him on trying to be a crowd size expert and the expert on Bronx demographics, now he's gonna tell us how he's basically Alan Dershowitz on the law.
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RE: Merchan breaks jury into 3 groups to weigh charges against Trump
I am starting to wonder if Merchan is doing all of this on purpose just to embarrass Trump knowing the case cannot be won on appeal (if it needs to go there).
The Schennanigans are all just so over the top; this guy is not a rookie Judge, he HAS to know the garbage he is pulling is gonna get called- right?
So why not just take advantage of the pulpit while you have it to embarrass and demean Trump any way you can. At the moment, it is the only thing that makes any sense?
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