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(09-10-2023 10:56 AM)waltgreenberg Wrote:  
(09-10-2023 10:53 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  Not really about HRS, but I really like bringing the Texas map outline into the OE "R" logo.
You're actually giving credit to the Rice Athletic department? 05-stirthepot

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Boise State stadium is sponsored by Albertsons. The nane is everywhere. Why cant Rice do this. They love to be progressive.
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(09-16-2023 12:53 PM)Texasowl Wrote:  Boise State stadium is sponsored by Albertsons. The nane is everywhere. Why cant Rice do this. They love to be progressive.

Good!
The MOB needs another sponsor's name to wait in line behind before we can play a tune during a time out.

Admittedly, there is a bucket of dollars waiting out there from the merchant who wants to associate with our football program.
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Why are some names on the ring of honor on both sides of the stadium, and some are not?

I'm not dedicating my life to the search, but I cannot find any reference online to the ring and the names (together, in the same place).

The names on the ring are not mentioned in the 2022 Rice Football Yearbook.
Froggy is on both sides.
Dicky Maegle is on both sides.
Malcom Walker is on one side.
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(09-16-2023 01:00 PM)Grungy Wrote:  Why are some names on the ring of honor on both sides of the stadium, and some are not?

I'm not dedicating my life to the search, but I cannot find any reference online to the ring and the names (together, in the same place).

The names on the ring are not mentioned in the 2022 Rice Football Yearbook.
Froggy is on both sides.
Dicky Maegle is on both sides.
Malcom Walker is on one side.

All-Americans on one side.
CFB Hall of Fame on the other side.
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(09-16-2023 01:00 PM)Grungy Wrote:  Why are some names on the ring of honor on both sides of the stadium, and some are not?

I'm not dedicating my life to the search, but I cannot find any reference online to the ring and the names (together, in the same place).

The names on the ring are not mentioned in the 2022 Rice Football Yearbook.
Froggy is on both sides.
Dicky Maegle is on both sides.
Malcom Walker is on one side.

And why are they so cheaply painted on the concrete? Rice can't find $300 for some nice lettering. Just cheap.
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(09-16-2023 11:22 PM)Ourland Wrote:  And why are they so cheaply painted on the concrete? Rice can't find $300 for some nice lettering. Just cheap.

If Rice has anything to do with athletics, they do it cheap.
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(09-16-2023 11:22 PM)Ourland Wrote:  
(09-16-2023 01:00 PM)Grungy Wrote:  Why are some names on the ring of honor on both sides of the stadium, and some are not?

I'm not dedicating my life to the search, but I cannot find any reference online to the ring and the names (together, in the same place).

The names on the ring are not mentioned in the 2022 Rice Football Yearbook.
Froggy is on both sides.
Dicky Maegle is on both sides.
Malcom Walker is on one side.

And why are they so cheaply painted on the concrete? Rice can't find $300 for some nice lettering. Just cheap.

Variable-kerning solid lettering to fit all the names would cost a lot more than $300.
They repainted the entire wall a white base, and then added the names.
I think it looks good - easily readable - and that's the point.
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I will say that the new walking surface gets slippery in the rain.
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(09-17-2023 08:04 AM)Grungy Wrote:  
(09-16-2023 11:22 PM)Ourland Wrote:  
(09-16-2023 01:00 PM)Grungy Wrote:  Why are some names on the ring of honor on both sides of the stadium, and some are not?

I'm not dedicating my life to the search, but I cannot find any reference online to the ring and the names (together, in the same place).

The names on the ring are not mentioned in the 2022 Rice Football Yearbook.
Froggy is on both sides.
Dicky Maegle is on both sides.
Malcom Walker is on one side.

And why are they so cheaply painted on the concrete? Rice can't find $300 for some nice lettering. Just cheap.

Variable-kerning solid lettering to fit all the names would cost a lot more than $300.
They repainted the entire wall a white base, and then added the names.
I think it looks good - easily readable - and that's the point.

Rice should be able to find the few thousand dollars for the right lettering. It's the ring of honor for God's sake. It can't be that expensive. It just looks cheap.
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(09-17-2023 09:01 AM)Ourland Wrote:  
(09-17-2023 08:04 AM)Grungy Wrote:  
(09-16-2023 11:22 PM)Ourland Wrote:  
(09-16-2023 01:00 PM)Grungy Wrote:  Why are some names on the ring of honor on both sides of the stadium, and some are not?

I'm not dedicating my life to the search, but I cannot find any reference online to the ring and the names (together, in the same place).

The names on the ring are not mentioned in the 2022 Rice Football Yearbook.
Froggy is on both sides.
Dicky Maegle is on both sides.
Malcom Walker is on one side.

And why are they so cheaply painted on the concrete? Rice can't find $300 for some nice lettering. Just cheap.

Variable-kerning solid lettering to fit all the names would cost a lot more than $300.
They repainted the entire wall a white base, and then added the names.
I think it looks good - easily readable - and that's the point.

Rice should be able to find the few thousand dollars for the right lettering. It's the ring of honor for God's sake. It can't be that expensive. It just looks cheap.

I’m not sure it looks cheap. It looks old school. And that’s a thing. If you get a chance, attend a game at Norte Dame. You’ll see a lot of that.
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(09-17-2023 09:52 AM)greyowl72 Wrote:  
(09-17-2023 09:01 AM)Ourland Wrote:  
(09-17-2023 08:04 AM)Grungy Wrote:  
(09-16-2023 11:22 PM)Ourland Wrote:  
(09-16-2023 01:00 PM)Grungy Wrote:  Why are some names on the ring of honor on both sides of the stadium, and some are not?

I'm not dedicating my life to the search, but I cannot find any reference online to the ring and the names (together, in the same place).

The names on the ring are not mentioned in the 2022 Rice Football Yearbook.
Froggy is on both sides.
Dicky Maegle is on both sides.
Malcom Walker is on one side.

And why are they so cheaply painted on the concrete? Rice can't find $300 for some nice lettering. Just cheap.

Variable-kerning solid lettering to fit all the names would cost a lot more than $300.
They repainted the entire wall a white base, and then added the names.
I think it looks good - easily readable - and that's the point.

Rice should be able to find the few thousand dollars for the right lettering. It's the ring of honor for God's sake. It can't be that expensive. It just looks cheap.

I’m not sure it looks cheap. It looks old school. And that’s a thing. If you get a chance, attend a game at Norte Dame. You’ll see a lot of that.

I'm into 'old school.' Perhaps it will grow on me.
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Rice neds to get creative with the ring of honor, such as they all light up when Rice score a touchdown.
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(09-16-2023 12:56 PM)Grungy Wrote:  
(09-16-2023 12:53 PM)Texasowl Wrote:  Boise State stadium is sponsored by Albertsons. The nane is everywhere. Why cant Rice do this. They love to be progressive.

Good!
The MOB needs another sponsor's name to wait in line behind before we can play a tune during a time out.

Admittedly, there is a bucket of dollars waiting out there from the merchant who wants to associate with our football program.

Why does athletics not let the MOB play throughout the commercials and sponsors? TSU band was doing it and the ads were still audible. The MOB playing at full force wouldn't affect how audible the ads are at all, and if it's truly a bother they can ask the MOB to play a but quieter while the ad plays and let them be loud once the commercials end
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Good observation. Let them play. It's too quiet
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With all the talk on the "SMU Homecoming" thread concerning the need for more TVs on the concourses, I hate to leave this thread behind, as it has been the bellwether thread for all things 'Rice Stadium' for a very long time, and keeping it as such is of upmost importance to me and I'm sure all you guys as well.

This is where we come to talk about our favorite place on planet Earth, and in that vein I thought I could revive a discussion on what is needed to be done at the stadium, and how much it could cost.

The first thing I notice when I walk up to the stadium are the old, archaic ticket booths that aren't utilized any longer. I'm also underwhelmed by the drab entrance. While I'd like to see them replaced, I'd hate to lose what makes are stadium 'look' historic. I have similar sentiment for the press box. While I'd like to see a new one, I'm afraid I'd miss it if it were gone, like I now miss the white wall around the field.

Something has to be done with the end zone, and the East upper deck must be finally dealt with in some way. I think a giant video screen that takes up the top 30 rows would really give the place a lot of life (Astrodome - like), while also preserving some of the upper seating that we all love.

There are a multitude of other things that need to be done, of course. I'm estimating a minimum of $80 million to do everything, but I'll be the first to admit that I know nothing of construction and associated costs. Thoughts?
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I have long thought that while HRS has incredible sight lines, the exterior view is drab at best. I wonder about doung something like what TT has done with Jones Stadium, building atletic offices, hospitality suites, and other spaces into a facade that now fits with the Spanish/southwestern theme of the rest of the campus. Imagine something like a Lovett Hall facade with the sallyport forming a new main spectator entry into the stadium.

The similar treatment for their basketball arena is remarkable to see. It looks like it has been there 100 years.


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(09-19-2023 02:39 PM)Texasowl Wrote:  Rice neds to get creative with the ring of honor, such as they all light up when Rice score a touchdown.

At the very least, we should have programmable LED lighting along that 'shelf'. Light up the names... but also do a 'chase' with blue and gray... or flashing blue and grey etc etc. Even better would be for the ring to be all LEDs... meaning we could put ads and graphics and 'TOUCHDOWN" or what have you on there as well... in addition to the names.

(11-08-2023 10:49 AM)Ourland Wrote:  With all the talk on the "SMU Homecoming" thread concerning the need for more TVs on the concourses, I hate to leave this thread behind, as it has been the bellwether thread for all things 'Rice Stadium' for a very long time, and keeping it as such is of upmost importance to me and I'm sure all you guys as well.

This is where we come to talk about our favorite place on planet Earth, and in that vein I thought I could revive a discussion on what is needed to be done at the stadium, and how much it could cost.

The first thing I notice when I walk up to the stadium are the old, archaic ticket booths that aren't utilized any longer. I'm also underwhelmed by the drab entrance. While I'd like to see them replaced, I'd hate to lose what makes are stadium 'look' historic. I have similar sentiment for the press box. While I'd like to see a new one, I'm afraid I'd miss it if it were gone, like I now miss the white wall around the field.

Something has to be done with the end zone, and the East upper deck must be finally dealt with in some way. I think a giant video screen that takes up the top 30 rows would really give the place a lot of life (Astrodome - like), while also preserving some of the upper seating that we all love.

There are a multitude of other things that need to be done, of course. I'm estimating a minimum of $80 million to do everything, but I'll be the first to admit that I know nothing of construction and associated costs. Thoughts?

I'd be happy to continue the concourse discussions here instead....

1) new press box 'in front' of the existing one. We would lose some seating, but it would also give us a mix of old and new. If you do it right, the roof of the new press box can become a 'patio deck' for the Stadium Club... which would now be much much larger (maybe even suites) because you don't need TV or coaches boxes.

2) Move the Owl Club parking and R Association Tail Gates to the East Side with Tail Gate Owley... Maybe as simple as swapping east and west. SMU was over by Tail Gate Owley and Rice Lettermen were off by ourselves. Really dumb if you ask me.... but nobody did. SMU saw the MOB come in... the Mob played for them...

The ticket booths are antiquated but really take up no space. The portable buildings look cheap. The old ticket booths could be dozed and replaced with something new or somehow retrofitted I suppose.... maybe another project for the Architecture school.

Seriously though... its all digital now through ticketmaster. How about we just get them to design an app and put kiosks in the existing ticket areas... knock out some of the brick so they're more like ATM 'stalls'... and then put a nice covered 'tent' (canvas) design over the gates where we have security (with Gigantic R and Owl Logos)?

and of course, pregame activities and other games on TVs with sound from our pregame
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(11-08-2023 11:32 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  I have long thought that while HRS has incredible sight lines, the exterior view is drab at best. I wonder about doung something like what TT has done with Jones Stadium, building atletic offices, hospitality suites, and other spaces into a facade that now fits with the Spanish/southwestern theme of the rest of the campus.

The similar treatment for their basketball arena is remarkable to see. It looks like it has been there 100 years.

Very cool. I wonder if we could afford it. It would be nice if all of the coaches' offices could be housed in the stadium, or if the university is happy with where they are. I wonder if hospitality suites are even in demand beyond what is offered in the Owl Club or "R" Room in the endzone. We don't have many fans. Those kinds of structures would have to be cost-effective and demand-driven.

My feeling is that donations will be too low to do anything exorbitant, and that the renovation will more than likely focus on changes that are needed the most. For example, I always felt that the upper East deck should be removed, so that a canopy can be built over the lower seating, but I doubt there will be money for anything excessive like that.
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(11-08-2023 11:52 AM)Hambone10 Wrote:  
(09-19-2023 02:39 PM)Texasowl Wrote:  Rice neds to get creative with the ring of honor, such as they all light up when Rice score a touchdown.

At the very least, we should have programmable LED lighting along that 'shelf'. Light up the names... but also do a 'chase' with blue and gray... or flashing blue and grey etc etc. Even better would be for the ring to be all LEDs... meaning we could put ads and graphics and 'TOUCHDOWN" or what have you on there as well... in addition to the names.

(11-08-2023 10:49 AM)Ourland Wrote:  With all the talk on the "SMU Homecoming" thread concerning the need for more TVs on the concourses, I hate to leave this thread behind, as it has been the bellwether thread for all things 'Rice Stadium' for a very long time, and keeping it as such is of upmost importance to me and I'm sure all you guys as well.

This is where we come to talk about our favorite place on planet Earth, and in that vein I thought I could revive a discussion on what is needed to be done at the stadium, and how much it could cost.

The first thing I notice when I walk up to the stadium are the old, archaic ticket booths that aren't utilized any longer. I'm also underwhelmed by the drab entrance. While I'd like to see them replaced, I'd hate to lose what makes are stadium 'look' historic. I have similar sentiment for the press box. While I'd like to see a new one, I'm afraid I'd miss it if it were gone, like I now miss the white wall around the field.

Something has to be done with the end zone, and the East upper deck must be finally dealt with in some way. I think a giant video screen that takes up the top 30 rows would really give the place a lot of life (Astrodome - like), while also preserving some of the upper seating that we all love.

There are a multitude of other things that need to be done, of course. I'm estimating a minimum of $80 million to do everything, but I'll be the first to admit that I know nothing of construction and associated costs. Thoughts?

I'd be happy to continue the concourse discussions here instead....

1) new press box 'in front' of the existing one. We would lose some seating, but it would also give us a mix of old and new. If you do it right, the roof of the new press box can become a 'patio deck' for the Stadium Club... which would now be much much larger (maybe even suites) because you don't need TV or coaches boxes.

2) Move the Owl Club parking and R Association Tail Gates to the East Side with Tail Gate Owley... Maybe as simple as swapping east and west. SMU was over by Tail Gate Owley and Rice Lettermen were off by ourselves. Really dumb if you ask me.... but nobody did. SMU saw the MOB come in... the Mob played for them...

The ticket booths are antiquated but really take up no space. The portable buildings look cheap. The old ticket booths could be dozed and replaced with something new or somehow retrofitted I suppose.... maybe another project for the Architecture school.

Seriously though... its all digital now through ticketmaster. How about we just get them to design an app and put kiosks in the existing ticket areas... knock out some of the brick so they're more like ATM 'stalls'... and then put a nice covered 'tent' (canvas) design over the gates where we have security (with Gigantic R and Owl Logos)?

and of course, pregame activities and other games on TVs with sound from our pregame

1. I thought I wouldn't like the Ring of Honor, as I heard from Grungy that the names were repainted, but I do like it. It's 'old school.' I do like the idea of an LED ticker strip on the shelf of the East deck, so that it encourages home fans to get involved in the game.

2. You're spot on with the R Association Tailgate needing to move to the East side, where Tailgate Owly is held. It's ridiculous to have it in the Southwest corner. There's no activity and no entertainment at its current location.

3. I hate the portable sheds/ticket booths. It's busch league and cheap. I realize that they only do it that way right now because they have to, but something needs to be done. I wonder if kiosks are practical. I guess thousands of visiting fans could figure it out, but it's always nice to have a human being there to at least provide some customer service. Maybe I'm just old fashioned like that.
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