JR, pardon the Yogi-ism, ‘one only knows what they know unless they continually strive to learn’

therefore, it’s a given the majority of the global pop. are nothing but tools or fools … the latter easily overwhelms or is overwhelmed…

myself, I’m simply shootin’ for #costa … it was always going to be a ‘close finish’ …

(06-24-2023 07:53 AM)natibeast2.0 Wrote:  

(06-24-2023 07:48 AM)shere khan Wrote:  

(06-24-2023 07:40 AM)CardinalJim Wrote:  Lots of misdirection from Putin.

I dont believe anything honestly. Give it a few days and we might find out how much of this is bullshite

Weve been lied to so much. Putin has cancer, putij is insane, the russian army is quitting, zelensky is a hero.

The day before i read that the ruskies had changed the role of assault helicopters and were kicking the shite out of ukraine. A day later there is a coup.

Propaganda is rampant.

Agreed. Was thinking that as I was typing. Imma let it play out a few days/weeks before making an actual assessment for my opinion.

Initial info of this war has been wrong so far the vast majority of the time.

And another thing ...the loons that keep saying Putin is s madman. He is anything but a madman. He is cold, calculating and highly intelligent. It may be comforting to call him a madman but its foolish.


New theory rolling un.....the seeeyeA wrote wagner a bigger check than putin

Now that is believable given the fact they cant hide Biden*s ukraine corruption any longer

(06-24-2023 07:57 AM)shere khan Wrote:  

(06-24-2023 07:53 AM)natibeast2.0 Wrote:  

(06-24-2023 07:48 AM)shere khan Wrote:  

(06-24-2023 07:40 AM)CardinalJim Wrote:  Lots of misdirection from Putin.

I dont believe anything honestly. Give it a few days and we might find out how much of this is bullshite

Weve been lied to so much. Putin has cancer, putij is insane, the russian army is quitting, zelensky is a hero.

The day before i read that the ruskies had changed the role of assault helicopters and were kicking the shite out of ukraine. A day later there is a coup.

Propaganda is rampant.

Agreed. Was thinking that as I was typing. Imma let it play out a few days/weeks before making an actual assessment for my opinion.

Initial info of this war has been wrong so far the vast majority of the time.

And another thing ...the loons that keep saying Putin is s madman. He is anything but a madman. He is cold, calculating and highly intelligent. It may be comforting to call him a madman but its foolish.

Exactly. This is what Trump was raked over the coals for saying. One can be brilliant but still evil.

(06-24-2023 07:57 AM)stinkfist Wrote:  JR, pardon the Yogi-ism, ‘one only knows what they know unless they continually strive to learn’

therefore, it’s a given the majority of the global pop. are nothing but tools or fools…

myself, I’m simply shootin’ for #costa … it was always going to be a ‘close finish’ …

I was asked once why I retired early from my last profession. The response was I knew too much. When you know what your superiors are afraid some will learn, it's time to go.

We are living in the most perilous times in my life. It's not just the U.S., which is coming unhinged, it's all of the world powers. China faces some major issues but hangs tight on control and keeps a consistent vision. Western Civilization is under attack because it grew decadent and complacent. Now none of our military has seen a real war. They know all too well the horrors of asymmetrical warfare and insurgency and terrorism, but outside of the brief episode in Iraq not much about an Army facing another.

We got so fat with military contracts that we have planes, ships, vehicles, and weapons systems which don't function properly and really don't address their purpose.

In WWII we got our butts kicked in North Africa. The Pentagon finally weeded out the political appointee generals who screwed up and weren't prepared or capable. Then we kicked ass. That happened in every war leading up to WWII.

You could afford to clean house because a big war took years to resolve. Now the whole damn thing could be over in 20 minutes. Now political appointee generals and admirals will get you not only beaten, but wiped out.

We think we are great because we inherited it. You know what they say happens when the third generation takes over a family business. Well the third generation now heads the Joint Chiefs of Staff.

You know Stink two things suck about growing old and still learning. One, you don't have as much time to utilize what you have learned, and in retirement don't have a place in which to utilize it outside of your family and friends. Two, young people never believe you no matter how factual the information you impart, because it isn't what they heard from idiots at school, or work, and because they have to learn everything the hard way. I was the same way until I was 19. At 19 I paid for everything on my own, had already bought my own car in high school. I paid for college, graduate school, marriage, everything. I own my home outright. The grandkids expect nice Christmas presents, but they don't believe a damn thing I tell them until they get burned.

Yogi had a side kick, Boo Boo!. The two go hand in hand.

(06-24-2023 06:24 AM)CardinalJim Wrote:  

(06-24-2023 06:05 AM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  There continues to be no good guys in this scenario either in Russia, Ukraine or Washington.

Nothing but corrupt evil people at all points an corners of this.

Meanwhile millions and millions of innocent people caught in the middle.

Exactly…

There was a time we could depend on steady leadership in DC. Americans could trust our leaders, regardless of party, had our Nation’s best interests in mind. Those days ended in January 2009.

Americans would be better off now with any President the last 40 years than the one currently occupying the White House. He’s mentally compromised and a puppet for the bad actors of his staff. (What am I signing?)

Furthermore the reports about our military leaders being more concerned with the use of proper pronouns than killing the enemy are less than comforting.

America is in a bad spot.

Depending on a criminal in Ukraine, a tyrant in Russia and a ruthless mercenary to make the right decisions because we can’t depend on our Nation’s inept leaders is a scary place for average Americans to be

FIFY

(06-24-2023 05:47 AM)JRsec Wrote:  

(06-24-2023 05:38 AM)shere khan Wrote:  

(06-24-2023 05:36 AM)CardinalJim Wrote:  

(06-23-2023 08:27 PM)JRsec Wrote:  Well, we should all be mindful that when a monolithic nuclear power splinters into pieces that it's a heads-up moment for the rest of the world. And right now is the worst possible time to have a power-hungry dictator in China and an imbecile in the White House. Let's hope luck is on our side, because with the current policies of this country God sure isn't!

Preach it Brother

We got bigger fish to fry now than the idiots of the DC Uniparty. Who has control of the over 4500 nuclear weapons Russia has? That’s a question that a real leader would be asking.

Instead we’re stuck with a dimwit in the White House, conniving Pelosi, Schumer and Schiff along the spineless gutless McCarthy, McConnell, Graham in Congress. What a bunch of impotent elites we have in power.

I almost wish it was American soldiers marching towards DC to clean house.

By the time this is over China will be in Taiwan, Cuba and Canada, Russia and its nuclear arsenal will be in turmoil while our Commander in Chief concerns himself with problems like what ice cream to select with his tapioca.

Things were bad before this, they’ll get even worse now.

And the fruitcakes here will want to send billions more

Since Yeltsin the smart play was to isolate away from all former Soviet States and let nature take its course. Keeping the U.S. and Western Europe out of it was essential. That way there is no way to be scapegoated.

Instead, the filthy Bidens have up to their keisters in backroom deals with the Ukraine. We need distance, not partners in crime. When this thing blows we don't need any culpability and yet here we are. Complete Eff up on diplomatic responsibility to the security and interests of the United States and our fellow NATO nations.

Elections have consequences and the last one could cost us dearly, or completely depending upon how things now unfold.

In the back of my mind are the 10,000 single Chinese male insurgents which were caught at the border. How many are here, and how much of the infrastructure issues have been sabotage done as practice for the main event?

This ain't Charlie Wilson's war and those are the Mujahadin and sadly we aren't teaching our Congressional secretaries to grow tits. Instead were mucking with a dissolving USSR/Russia, sending money to a gameshow fascist, and teaching our children to gender switch.

It's what is the past was called an abomination! We now have Elementary Diplomacy, Hollywood War Planning, and at home we are practicing cultural suicide.

And hell, it could get a lot worse!

And Xi is smiling like the Cheshire Cat. He will have Taiwan, the Russian oil fields and all of the South China Sea before it’s over.

(06-24-2023 08:29 AM)Was SoMs Eagle Wrote:  

(06-24-2023 05:47 AM)JRsec Wrote:  

(06-24-2023 05:38 AM)shere khan Wrote:  

(06-24-2023 05:36 AM)CardinalJim Wrote:  

(06-23-2023 08:27 PM)JRsec Wrote:  Well, we should all be mindful that when a monolithic nuclear power splinters into pieces that it's a heads-up moment for the rest of the world. And right now is the worst possible time to have a power-hungry dictator in China and an imbecile in the White House. Let's hope luck is on our side, because with the current policies of this country God sure isn't!

Preach it Brother

We got bigger fish to fry now than the idiots of the DC Uniparty. Who has control of the over 4500 nuclear weapons Russia has? That’s a question that a real leader would be asking.

Instead we’re stuck with a dimwit in the White House, conniving Pelosi, Schumer and Schiff along the spineless gutless McCarthy, McConnell, Graham in Congress. What a bunch of impotent elites we have in power.

I almost wish it was American soldiers marching towards DC to clean house.

By the time this is over China will be in Taiwan, Cuba and Canada, Russia and its nuclear arsenal will be in turmoil while our Commander in Chief concerns himself with problems like what ice cream to select with his tapioca.

Things were bad before this, they’ll get even worse now.

And the fruitcakes here will want to send billions more

Since Yeltsin the smart play was to isolate away from all former Soviet States and let nature take its course. Keeping the U.S. and Western Europe out of it was essential. That way there is no way to be scapegoated.

Instead, the filthy Bidens have up to their keisters in backroom deals with the Ukraine. We need distance, not partners in crime. When this thing blows we don't need any culpability and yet here we are. Complete Eff up on diplomatic responsibility to the security and interests of the United States and our fellow NATO nations.

Elections have consequences and the last one could cost us dearly, or completely depending upon how things now unfold.

In the back of my mind are the 10,000 single Chinese male insurgents which were caught at the border. How many are here, and how much of the infrastructure issues have been sabotage done as practice for the main event?

This ain't Charlie Wilson's war and those are the Mujahadin and sadly we aren't teaching our Congressional secretaries to grow tits. Instead were mucking with a dissolving USSR/Russia, sending money to a gameshow fascist, and teaching our children to gender switch.

It's what is the past was called an abomination! We now have Elementary Diplomacy, Hollywood War Planning, and at home we are practicing cultural suicide.

And hell, it could get a lot worse!

And Xi is smiling like the Cheshire Cat. He will have Taiwan, the Russian oil fields and all of the South China Sea before it’s over.

IMO, you are spot on in that assertion.

(06-24-2023 06:50 AM)indianashocker Wrote:  

(06-24-2023 05:57 AM)JRsec Wrote:  

(06-24-2023 05:52 AM)shere khan Wrote:  

(06-24-2023 05:47 AM)JRsec Wrote:  

(06-24-2023 05:38 AM)shere khan Wrote:  And the fruitcakes here will want to send billions more

Since Yeltsin the smart play was to isolate away from all former Soviet States and let nature take its course. Keeping the U.S. and Western Europe out of it was essential. That way there is no way to be scapegoated.

Instead, the filthy Bidens have up to their keisters in backroom deals with the Ukraine. We need distance, not partners in crime. When this thing blows we don't need any culpability and yet here we are. Complete Eff up on diplomatic responsibility to the security and interests of the United States and our fellow NATO nations.

Elections have consequences and the last one could cost us dearly, or completely depending upon how things now unfold.

In the back of my mind are the 10,000 single Chinese male insurgents which were caught at the border. How many are here, and how much of the infrastructure issues have been sabotage done as practice for the main event?

Careful. The brain trust here that like seeing Russia run red with blood will call you a Putin lover.

We need to quit fueling that fire

Ha! I'm no Putin lover, but I sure as hell am a fan of letting a fascist thug and pretend commie dictator choke the life out of each other. That's what is in the best interest of a free Europe and for the poor people of all former Soviet States. Piss on backing Thug A or Thug B! That crap didn't work in Central America, South America, Africa, or Asia. Keep your money in your pocket, keep your distance, you don't want ring side seats, and watch this on Pay per View.

(06-24-2023 06:08 AM)CardinalJim Wrote:  

(06-24-2023 05:51 AM)indianashocker Wrote:  

(06-24-2023 05:36 AM)CardinalJim Wrote:  

(06-23-2023 08:27 PM)JRsec Wrote:  Well, we should all be mindful that when a monolithic nuclear power splinters into pieces that it's a heads-up moment for the rest of the world. And right now is the worst possible time to have a power-hungry dictator in China and an imbecile in the White House. Let's hope luck is on our side, because with the current policies of this country God sure isn't!

Preach it Brother

We got bigger fish to fry now than the idiots of the DC Uniparty. Who has control of the over 4500 nuclear weapons Russia has? That’s a question that a real leader would be asking. .

You realize the warheads are useless without the codes right? I assume you're well versed in Russia's doctorine for using nukes? There's a process that prevents a singular individual from being able to both order & execute a nuclear strike. Several individuals have to confirm & pass along the required information that only they possess in order to execute the next phase. No one that can is going to use nukes in russia against russia and a 3rd party obtaining the nukes is useless without all of the required codes & exact knowlegdge of required procedure. Again this takes a chain of events and a short list of individuals to execute. Please stopping posting about **** you have no understanding. Fear mongering.

How do you know?
Putin is a madman. He’s already threatened to use nukes in Ukraine.

This was 2 days ago.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/russia-nuc...-1.6885338

Putin is a tyrant. Those leading the coup in Russia are mercenaries. They have no allegiance to anyone.

I’m glad you’re so sure a dictator losing power wouldn’t use nukes on his own people to hold on to power.

Putin has threatened Nukes many times. It's fear mongering. Pay no attention. But if you're unable to sleep over fear of being nuked, do yourself a favor & read up on russia's nuclear doctrine & process. While you're at it, research why using Nukes aren't a real option for Putin in Ukraine or against his own people.

The thing that concerns me about Russia's nukes...
If the Russian Govt were to fall, I fear many of those warheads will be in the hands of black market traders, or CCP entities within a year. Those may be made into suitcase nukes fairly easily. China having brought in 1000's of soldiers through the southern border, and controlling many of the American ports, will have an easy time putting these to use in our homeland...

(06-24-2023 05:56 AM)shere khan Wrote:  

(06-24-2023 05:54 AM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  

(06-24-2023 05:31 AM)indianashocker Wrote:  Putin may get Gaddafi’d sooner than later.

Up to this point, the Russian National Guard is largely laying down its arms and allowing Wagner free passage. Wagner has taken over the cities & military command posts in both Rostov-on-Don & Voronezh (both with populations over 1M).

Russia has tried attacking Wagner columns with air support but at least 4 helicopters and 1 fighter jet have been taken out by portable air defense systems (Pantsir) that are being used by Wagner. Russia is setting up a defensive line about 50km south of Moscow. When Wagner reaches this area (likely later today), expect the fighting to heat up, but ultimately it's highly likely this become a battle in the streets of Moscow. Wagner is very well supplied with heavy equipment, tanks, artillery, etc. Sit back and enjoy this one.

You literally have no idea if any of that is true.

You, like everyone else, are totally in the dark on the REAL details here are have nothing but a sea of misinformation and propaganda to blindly cherry pick from.

We won't know what is going on until its done.

I see a lot of stupid people salivating at the idea of Putin being overthrown, and for all these idiots know that could be the worst possible outcome for America and the free world. That could make the whole situation 1000 times more dangerous.

The globohomos dont care how many people die as long as Putin gets his.

Most other people can think about this logically

It’s OK to be a little wrong Shere.

(06-24-2023 05:58 AM)CardinalJim Wrote:  

(06-24-2023 05:47 AM)JRsec Wrote:  

(06-24-2023 05:38 AM)shere khan Wrote:  

(06-24-2023 05:36 AM)CardinalJim Wrote:  

(06-23-2023 08:27 PM)JRsec Wrote:  Well, we should all be mindful that when a monolithic nuclear power splinters into pieces that it's a heads-up moment for the rest of the world. And right now is the worst possible time to have a power-hungry dictator in China and an imbecile in the White House. Let's hope luck is on our side, because with the current policies of this country God sure isn't!

Preach it Brother

We got bigger fish to fry now than the idiots of the DC Uniparty. Who has control of the over 4500 nuclear weapons Russia has? That’s a question that a real leader would be asking.

Instead we’re stuck with a dimwit in the White House, conniving Pelosi, Schumer and Schiff along the spineless gutless McCarthy, McConnell, Graham in Congress. What a bunch of impotent elites we have in power.

I almost wish it was American soldiers marching towards DC to clean house.

By the time this is over China will be in Taiwan, Cuba and Canada, Russia and its nuclear arsenal will be in turmoil while our Commander in Chief concerns himself with problems like what ice cream to select with his tapioca.

Things were bad before this, they’ll get even worse now.

And the fruitcakes here will want to send billions more

Since Yeltsin the smart play was to isolate away from all former Soviet States and let nature take its course. Keeping the U.S. and Western Europe out of it was essential. That way there is no way to be scapegoated.

Instead, the filthy Bidens have up to their keisters in backroom deals with the Ukraine. We need distance, not partners in crime. When this thing blows we don't need any culpability and yet here we are. Complete Eff up on diplomatic responsibility to the security and interests of the United States and our fellow NATO nations.

Elections have consequences and the last one could cost us dearly, or completely depending upon how things now unfold.

In the back of my mind are the 10,000 single Chinese male insurgents which were caught at the border. How many are here, and how much of the infrastructure issues have been sabotage done as practice for the main event?

This administration would gladly support bringing down our Nation if they thought it would give them power for good. Even if it meant continuing to be subservient to the Chinese like its been since 2020, sadly this administration would do it.

The ineptitude of our president and his staff has to be on purpose. That’s the only way to explain wants going on in DC

Would? They already are.

https://twitter.com/arantespp/status/167...7330104322



https://twitter.com/arantespp/status/167...7330104322

(06-24-2023 07:48 AM)shere khan Wrote:  

(06-24-2023 07:40 AM)CardinalJim Wrote:  Lots of misdirection from Putin.

I dont believe anything honestly. Give it a few days and we might find out how much of this is bullshite

Weve been lied to so much. Putin has cancer, putij is insane, the russian army is quitting, zelensky is a hero.

The day before i read that the ruskies had changed the role of assault helicopters and were kicking the shite out of ukraine. A day later there is a coup.

Propaganda is rampant.

Always is in the fog of war. But you have been consistent. I will applaud you for that—but— had a Zelinsky taken the Big Puss’s ride out of town Putin would still believe he’s a world super power and have his sights trained on the Baltic States. The carnage in Ukraine and now possibly coming to Russia itself, will play out on the aggressors own soil. That is the one good thing happening here. You have the “little fascist criminal” to thank for that. Hopefully we get past this crisis and elect a president who is capable of dealing with what comes next.

I’ve never seen some supposed grown adults around here act so giddy like kids that just went to GameStop and bought a new video game….sheesh

(06-24-2023 07:57 AM)shere khan Wrote:  

(06-24-2023 07:53 AM)natibeast2.0 Wrote:  

(06-24-2023 07:48 AM)shere khan Wrote:  

(06-24-2023 07:40 AM)CardinalJim Wrote:  Lots of misdirection from Putin.

I dont believe anything honestly. Give it a few days and we might find out how much of this is bullshite

Weve been lied to so much. Putin has cancer, putij is insane, the russian army is quitting, zelensky is a hero.

The day before i read that the ruskies had changed the role of assault helicopters and were kicking the shite out of ukraine. A day later there is a coup.

Propaganda is rampant.

Agreed. Was thinking that as I was typing. Imma let it play out a few days/weeks before making an actual assessment for my opinion.

Initial info of this war has been wrong so far the vast majority of the time.

And another thing ...the loons that keep saying Putin is s madman. He is anything but a madman. He is cold, calculating and highly intelligent. It may be comforting to call him a madman but its foolish.


New theory rolling un.....the seeeyeA wrote wagner a bigger check than putin

Now that is believable given the fact they cant hide Biden*s ukraine corruption any longer

It is equally foolish to call Zelinsky simply a “comedian”. The CIA doesn’t have the funds sitting around to pay a 25,000 man army. We still have some accounting of dollars spent, although it’s not done very well. Maybe if they diverted some of the Big Guy’s percentage.

Somebody made a bloody fortune by overpaying the Feds $6.5billion.

(06-24-2023 09:02 AM)BigTigerMike Wrote:  I’ve never seen some supposed grown adults around here act so giddy like kids that just went to GameStop and bought a new video game….sheesh

Nothing to be giddy about in this situation. As Shere pointed out earlier, there are no winners in this no matter how the situation is resolved.

It couldn’t happen at a worse time for our Nation.

I’ve seen what you’ve described all over Twitter the last 12 hours or so. Far Left wackos, many from Europe, celebrating “Trumps Buddy” Putin being attacked by his mercenaries.

I don’t understand the logic. How a nuclear power being thrown into a civil war is somehow good for the rest world is puzzling.

It’s a sad day when a war starts no matter who starts it.

(06-24-2023 09:35 AM)CardinalJim Wrote:  

(06-24-2023 09:02 AM)BigTigerMike Wrote:  I’ve never seen some supposed grown adults around here act so giddy like kids that just went to GameStop and bought a new video game….sheesh

Nothing to be giddy about in this situation. As Shere pointed out earlier, there are no winners in this no matter how the situation is resolved.

It couldn’t happen at a worse time for our Nation.

I’ve seen what you’ve described all over Twitter the last 12 hours or so. Far Left wackos, many from Europe, celebrating “Trumps Buddy” Putin being attacked by his mercenaries.

I don’t understand the logic. How a nuclear power being thrown into a civil war is somehow good for the rest world is puzzling.

It’s a sad day when a war starts no matter who starts it.

one could also remind BTM it was bidet* that gave polity-poot the ‘invite’…

(06-24-2023 09:02 AM)BigTigerMike Wrote:  I’ve never seen some supposed grown adults around here act so giddy like kids that just went to GameStop and bought a new video game….sheesh

Supposed Americans prophesying the fall of America, because our #1 enemy of the past century is deteriorating under its own corruption. What was once cause for celebration in the streets under Reagan, is met with quibbling and fear under Biden. Tells you everything you need to know.

(06-24-2023 09:34 AM)CrimsonPhantom Wrote:  

The Chechens are some no holds barred fighters. They will not be push overs...
I think they will be loyal to Putin/Russia.