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RE: Moscow attacks Wagner? Civil war started?
(06-24-2023 01:45 AM)Attackcoog Wrote:  
(06-24-2023 01:27 AM)JRsec Wrote:  
(06-24-2023 01:21 AM)Attackcoog Wrote:  Starting to see multiple reports of Russian military units firing on other Russian military units. These are not Wagner vs Russian military---but regular Russian military firing on regular Russian military. Also, there is a large Russian airbase outside of Moscow with a motor rifle unit assigned to it that has refused to move into position to defend Moscow. Video has emerged indicating that base is currently on fire. Unknown if its been fired on or if its the result of sabotage from its own garrison.

I was initially skeptical----but its clear things are rapidly unraveling within the Russia's military structure and sides are being chosen.

This is precisely why I stated it is a nightmare scenario for the world. You have an entrenched slightly paranoid and absolutely resolute Putin, and the nukes are there and it would not take much for it to get out of hand. I'm not saying he would launch on the U.S. but nukes used anywhere near free Europe and our military bases there could trigger escalation in a hurry.

The best approach right now to alert all of bases, lock them down and stay the hell away from anything happening in the former Soviet states. And President Bumble needs to be kept under wraps and let more agile minds manage our conduct. An eye on Xi is in order as well. It has to be somewhat unpredictable how China will respond.

Its times like these that its incredibly unsettling to have a cognitively compromised president.

No idea how this will play out, but I wouldnt be surprised if it ends up with Putin still in power---Prigozhin serving as his Defense Minister----with the current Russian military leaders sent off to prison as scapegoats for "misleading" Putin and getting Russia into this messy Ukrainian quagmire. That would be a fairly decent outcome from which a relatively quick negotiated peace agreement for Ukraine might be hammered out. That said---you're absolutely correct in pointing out we could easily end up in any number of possible nightmare scenarios. We are dealing with a possible civil war in a nation that owns the largest nuclear arsenal in the world. There were serious concerns something like this might happen in Pakistan a while back---this current situation is 1000 times worse.

The only safe plan I can envision is for the rest of the world to back out of all former Soviet States and let whatever happens internally happen internally. We can afford no foreign scapegoats and no accidental strikes against non former Soviet States.

This is, has been, and should be, a matter for those states to settle between each other.

The world needs to provide no reason or cause either accidental or planned which could result in escalation.

And I might add the Bidens have been ass deep in too much Ukrainian back dealing to be credible or to act as anything but a trigger. It's the most serious event of my life and in some ways more "potentially" devastating than WWII. Only sober cautious minds need to deal with this.
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RE: Moscow attacks Wagner? Civil war started?
(06-23-2023 06:05 PM)shere khan Wrote:  This will turn out to be propaganda tokyo rose bullshite.

Yall can tell me i was right later.

Dude you're always wrong. A clown show. No one here takes you seriously. You're a wannabe know it all who doesn't know dick. GTFOH
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Well Tordor has gone silent on this so I guess he is worried. No Russian propaganda posts from him.
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Putin may get Gaddafi’d sooner than later.

Up to this point, the Russian National Guard is largely laying down its arms and allowing Wagner free passage. Wagner has taken over the cities & military command posts in both Rostov-on-Don & Voronezh (both with populations over 1M).

Russia has tried attacking Wagner columns with air support but at least 4 helicopters and 1 fighter jet have been taken out by portable air defense systems (Pantsir) that are being used by Wagner. Russia is setting up a defensive line about 50km south of Moscow. When Wagner reaches this area (likely later today), expect the fighting to heat up, but ultimately it's highly likely this become a battle in the streets of Moscow. Wagner is very well supplied with heavy equipment, tanks, artillery, etc. Sit back and enjoy this one.
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RE: Moscow attacks Wagner? Civil war started?
(06-24-2023 02:42 AM)indianashocker Wrote:  
(06-23-2023 06:05 PM)shere khan Wrote:  This will turn out to be propaganda tokyo rose bullshite.

Yall can tell me i was right later.

Dude you're always wrong. A clown show. No one here takes you seriously. You're a wannabe know it all who doesn't know dick. GTFOH

Ive not been wrong yet. Wtf are you dorkus
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(06-23-2023 08:27 PM)JRsec Wrote:  Well, we should all be mindful that when a monolithic nuclear power splinters into pieces that it's a heads-up moment for the rest of the world. And right now is the worst possible time to have a power-hungry dictator in China and an imbecile in the White House. Let's hope luck is on our side, because with the current policies of this country God sure isn't!

Preach it Brother

We got bigger fish to fry now than the idiots of the DC Uniparty. Who has control of the over 4500 nuclear weapons Russia has? That’s a question that a real leader would be asking.

Instead we’re stuck with a dimwit in the White House, conniving Pelosi, Schumer and Schiff along the spineless gutless McCarthy, McConnell, Graham in Congress. What a bunch of impotent elites we have in power.

I almost wish it was American soldiers marching towards DC to clean house.

By the time this is over China will be in Taiwan, Cuba and Canada, Russia and its nuclear arsenal will be in turmoil while our Commander in Chief concerns himself with problems like what ice cream to select with his tapioca.

Things were bad before this, they’ll get even worse now.
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(06-24-2023 05:36 AM)CardinalJim Wrote:  
(06-23-2023 08:27 PM)JRsec Wrote:  Well, we should all be mindful that when a monolithic nuclear power splinters into pieces that it's a heads-up moment for the rest of the world. And right now is the worst possible time to have a power-hungry dictator in China and an imbecile in the White House. Let's hope luck is on our side, because with the current policies of this country God sure isn't!

Preach it Brother

We got bigger fish to fry now than the idiots of the DC Uniparty. Who has control of the over 4500 nuclear weapons Russia has? That’s a question that a real leader would be asking.

Instead we’re stuck with a dimwit in the White House, conniving Pelosi, Schumer and Schiff along the spineless gutless McCarthy, McConnell, Graham in Congress. What a bunch of impotent elites we have in power.

I almost wish it was American soldiers marching towards DC to clean house.

By the time this is over China will be in Taiwan, Cuba and Canada, Russia and its nuclear arsenal will be in turmoil while our Commander in Chief concerns himself with problems like what ice cream to select with his tapioca.

Things were bad before this, they’ll get even worse now.

And the fruitcakes here will want to send billions more
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(06-24-2023 05:36 AM)CardinalJim Wrote:  
(06-23-2023 08:27 PM)JRsec Wrote:  Well, we should all be mindful that when a monolithic nuclear power splinters into pieces that it's a heads-up moment for the rest of the world. And right now is the worst possible time to have a power-hungry dictator in China and an imbecile in the White House. Let's hope luck is on our side, because with the current policies of this country God sure isn't!

Preach it Brother

We got bigger fish to fry now than the idiots of the DC Uniparty. Who has control of the over 4500 nuclear weapons Russia has? That’s a question that a real leader would be asking.

Instead we’re stuck with a dimwit in the White House, conniving Pelosi, Schumer and Schiff along the spineless gutless McCarthy, McConnell, Graham in Congress. What a bunch of impotent elites we have in power.

I almost wish it was American soldiers marching towards DC to clean house.

By the time this is over China will be in Taiwan, Cuba and Canada, Russia and its nuclear arsenal will be in turmoil while our Commander in Chief concerns himself with problems like what ice cream to select with his tapioca.

Things were bad before this, they’ll get even worse now.

Fuse on a warhead!
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(06-24-2023 01:27 AM)JRsec Wrote:  
(06-24-2023 01:21 AM)Attackcoog Wrote:  Starting to see multiple reports of Russian military units firing on other Russian military units. These are not Wagner vs Russian military---but regular Russian military firing on regular Russian military. Also, there is a large Russian airbase outside of Moscow with a motor rifle unit assigned to it that has refused to move into position to defend Moscow. Video has emerged indicating that base is currently on fire. Unknown if its been fired on or if its the result of sabotage from its own garrison.

I was initially skeptical----but its clear things are rapidly unraveling within the Russia's military structure and sides are being chosen.

This is precisely why I stated it is a nightmare scenario for the world. You have an entrenched slightly paranoid and absolutely resolute Putin, and the nukes are there and it would not take much for it to get out of hand. I'm not saying he would launch on the U.S. but nukes used anywhere near free Europe and our military bases there could trigger escalation in a hurry.

The best approach right now to alert all of bases, lock them down and stay the hell away from anything happening in the former Soviet states. And President Bumble needs to be kept under wraps and let more agile minds manage our conduct. An eye on Xi is in order as well. It has to be somewhat unpredictable how China will respond.

That won’t happen because Graham and his DC military complex pals see how much money can be made. Couple that with Pelosi, Schumer, McCarthy and McConnell realizing how much more money they can put in their pockets by sending more of our tax dollars to Ukraine.

It’s all about the dollars now in DC.

A tactical rouge Russian nuke striking DC while Congress is in session and our Idiot in Charge is sitting at the Resolute Desk might well be the best case scenario for average Americans.

That’s as close as we’re going to get to a real cleanup in our Nation’s capital. It ain’t an enema, but it would clean out the crap.
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(06-24-2023 05:38 AM)shere khan Wrote:  
(06-24-2023 05:36 AM)CardinalJim Wrote:  
(06-23-2023 08:27 PM)JRsec Wrote:  Well, we should all be mindful that when a monolithic nuclear power splinters into pieces that it's a heads-up moment for the rest of the world. And right now is the worst possible time to have a power-hungry dictator in China and an imbecile in the White House. Let's hope luck is on our side, because with the current policies of this country God sure isn't!

Preach it Brother

We got bigger fish to fry now than the idiots of the DC Uniparty. Who has control of the over 4500 nuclear weapons Russia has? That’s a question that a real leader would be asking.

Instead we’re stuck with a dimwit in the White House, conniving Pelosi, Schumer and Schiff along the spineless gutless McCarthy, McConnell, Graham in Congress. What a bunch of impotent elites we have in power.

I almost wish it was American soldiers marching towards DC to clean house.

By the time this is over China will be in Taiwan, Cuba and Canada, Russia and its nuclear arsenal will be in turmoil while our Commander in Chief concerns himself with problems like what ice cream to select with his tapioca.

Things were bad before this, they’ll get even worse now.

And the fruitcakes here will want to send billions more

Since Yeltsin the smart play was to isolate away from all former Soviet States and let nature take its course. Keeping the U.S. and Western Europe out of it was essential. That way there is no way to be scapegoated.

Instead, the filthy Bidens have up to their keisters in backroom deals with the Ukraine. We need distance, not partners in crime. When this thing blows we don't need any culpability and yet here we are. Complete Eff up on diplomatic responsibility to the security and interests of the United States and our fellow NATO nations.

Elections have consequences and the last one could cost us dearly, or completely depending upon how things now unfold.

In the back of my mind are the 10,000 single Chinese male insurgents which were caught at the border. How many are here, and how much of the infrastructure issues have been sabotage done as practice for the main event?

This ain't Charlie Wilson's war and those are the Mujahadin and sadly we aren't teaching our Congressional secretaries to grow tits. Instead were mucking with a dissolving USSR/Russia, sending money to a gameshow fascist, and teaching our children to gender switch.

It's what is the past was called an abomination! We now have Elementary Diplomacy, Hollywood War Planning, and at home we are practicing cultural suicide.

And hell, it could get a lot worse!
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(06-24-2023 05:38 AM)shere khan Wrote:  
(06-24-2023 05:36 AM)CardinalJim Wrote:  
(06-23-2023 08:27 PM)JRsec Wrote:  Well, we should all be mindful that when a monolithic nuclear power splinters into pieces that it's a heads-up moment for the rest of the world. And right now is the worst possible time to have a power-hungry dictator in China and an imbecile in the White House. Let's hope luck is on our side, because with the current policies of this country God sure isn't!

Preach it Brother

We got bigger fish to fry now than the idiots of the DC Uniparty. Who has control of the over 4500 nuclear weapons Russia has? That’s a question that a real leader would be asking.

Instead we’re stuck with a dimwit in the White House, conniving Pelosi, Schumer and Schiff along the spineless gutless McCarthy, McConnell, Graham in Congress. What a bunch of impotent elites we have in power.

I almost wish it was American soldiers marching towards DC to clean house.

By the time this is over China will be in Taiwan, Cuba and Canada, Russia and its nuclear arsenal will be in turmoil while our Commander in Chief concerns himself with problems like what ice cream to select with his tapioca.

Things were bad before this, they’ll get even worse now.

And the fruitcakes here will want to send billions more

McConnell and Schumer agree…

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(06-24-2023 05:36 AM)CardinalJim Wrote:  
(06-23-2023 08:27 PM)JRsec Wrote:  Well, we should all be mindful that when a monolithic nuclear power splinters into pieces that it's a heads-up moment for the rest of the world. And right now is the worst possible time to have a power-hungry dictator in China and an imbecile in the White House. Let's hope luck is on our side, because with the current policies of this country God sure isn't!

Preach it Brother

We got bigger fish to fry now than the idiots of the DC Uniparty. Who has control of the over 4500 nuclear weapons Russia has? That’s a question that a real leader would be asking. .

You realize the warheads are useless without the codes right? I assume you're well versed in Russia's doctorine for using nukes? There's a process that prevents a singular individual from being able to both order & execute a nuclear strike. Several individuals have to confirm & pass along the required information that only they possess in order to execute the next phase. No one that can is going to use nukes in russia against russia and a 3rd party obtaining the nukes is useless without all of the required codes & exact knowlegdge of required procedure. Again this takes a chain of events and a short list of individuals to execute. Please stopping posting about **** you have no understanding. Fear mongering.
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(06-24-2023 05:47 AM)JRsec Wrote:  
(06-24-2023 05:38 AM)shere khan Wrote:  
(06-24-2023 05:36 AM)CardinalJim Wrote:  
(06-23-2023 08:27 PM)JRsec Wrote:  Well, we should all be mindful that when a monolithic nuclear power splinters into pieces that it's a heads-up moment for the rest of the world. And right now is the worst possible time to have a power-hungry dictator in China and an imbecile in the White House. Let's hope luck is on our side, because with the current policies of this country God sure isn't!

Preach it Brother

We got bigger fish to fry now than the idiots of the DC Uniparty. Who has control of the over 4500 nuclear weapons Russia has? That’s a question that a real leader would be asking.

Instead we’re stuck with a dimwit in the White House, conniving Pelosi, Schumer and Schiff along the spineless gutless McCarthy, McConnell, Graham in Congress. What a bunch of impotent elites we have in power.

I almost wish it was American soldiers marching towards DC to clean house.

By the time this is over China will be in Taiwan, Cuba and Canada, Russia and its nuclear arsenal will be in turmoil while our Commander in Chief concerns himself with problems like what ice cream to select with his tapioca.

Things were bad before this, they’ll get even worse now.

And the fruitcakes here will want to send billions more

Since Yeltsin the smart play was to isolate away from all former Soviet States and let nature take its course. Keeping the U.S. and Western Europe out of it was essential. That way there is no way to be scapegoated.

Instead, the filthy Bidens have up to their keisters in backroom deals with the Ukraine. We need distance, not partners in crime. When this thing blows we don't need any culpability and yet here we are. Complete Eff up on diplomatic responsibility to the security and interests of the United States and our fellow NATO nations.

Elections have consequences and the last one could cost us dearly, or completely depending upon how things now unfold.

In the back of my mind are the 10,000 single Chinese male insurgents which were caught at the border. How many are here, and how much of the infrastructure issues have been sabotage done as practice for the main event?

Careful. The brain trust here that like seeing Russia run red with blood will call you a Putin lover.

We need to quit fueling that fire
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(06-24-2023 05:31 AM)indianashocker Wrote:  Putin may get Gaddafi’d sooner than later.

Up to this point, the Russian National Guard is largely laying down its arms and allowing Wagner free passage. Wagner has taken over the cities & military command posts in both Rostov-on-Don & Voronezh (both with populations over 1M).

Russia has tried attacking Wagner columns with air support but at least 4 helicopters and 1 fighter jet have been taken out by portable air defense systems (Pantsir) that are being used by Wagner. Russia is setting up a defensive line about 50km south of Moscow. When Wagner reaches this area (likely later today), expect the fighting to heat up, but ultimately it's highly likely this become a battle in the streets of Moscow. Wagner is very well supplied with heavy equipment, tanks, artillery, etc. Sit back and enjoy this one.


You literally have no idea if any of that is true.

You, like everyone else, are totally in the dark on the REAL details here are have nothing but a sea of misinformation and propaganda to blindly cherry pick from.

We won't know what is going on until its done.

I see a lot of stupid people salivating at the idea of Putin being overthrown, and for all these idiots know that could be the worst possible outcome for America and the free world. That could make the whole situation 1000 times more dangerous.
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(06-24-2023 05:54 AM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  
(06-24-2023 05:31 AM)indianashocker Wrote:  Putin may get Gaddafi’d sooner than later.

Up to this point, the Russian National Guard is largely laying down its arms and allowing Wagner free passage. Wagner has taken over the cities & military command posts in both Rostov-on-Don & Voronezh (both with populations over 1M).

Russia has tried attacking Wagner columns with air support but at least 4 helicopters and 1 fighter jet have been taken out by portable air defense systems (Pantsir) that are being used by Wagner. Russia is setting up a defensive line about 50km south of Moscow. When Wagner reaches this area (likely later today), expect the fighting to heat up, but ultimately it's highly likely this become a battle in the streets of Moscow. Wagner is very well supplied with heavy equipment, tanks, artillery, etc. Sit back and enjoy this one.


You literally have no idea if any of that is true.

You, like everyone else, are totally in the dark on the REAL details here are have nothing but a sea of misinformation and propaganda to blindly cherry pick from.

We won't know what is going on until its done.

I see a lot of stupid people salivating at the idea of Putin being overthrown, and for all these idiots know that could be the worst possible outcome for America and the free world. That could make the whole situation 1000 times more dangerous.

The globohomos dont care how many people die as long as Putin gets his.

Most other people can think about this logically
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(06-24-2023 05:52 AM)shere khan Wrote:  
(06-24-2023 05:47 AM)JRsec Wrote:  
(06-24-2023 05:38 AM)shere khan Wrote:  
(06-24-2023 05:36 AM)CardinalJim Wrote:  
(06-23-2023 08:27 PM)JRsec Wrote:  Well, we should all be mindful that when a monolithic nuclear power splinters into pieces that it's a heads-up moment for the rest of the world. And right now is the worst possible time to have a power-hungry dictator in China and an imbecile in the White House. Let's hope luck is on our side, because with the current policies of this country God sure isn't!

Preach it Brother

We got bigger fish to fry now than the idiots of the DC Uniparty. Who has control of the over 4500 nuclear weapons Russia has? That’s a question that a real leader would be asking.

Instead we’re stuck with a dimwit in the White House, conniving Pelosi, Schumer and Schiff along the spineless gutless McCarthy, McConnell, Graham in Congress. What a bunch of impotent elites we have in power.

I almost wish it was American soldiers marching towards DC to clean house.

By the time this is over China will be in Taiwan, Cuba and Canada, Russia and its nuclear arsenal will be in turmoil while our Commander in Chief concerns himself with problems like what ice cream to select with his tapioca.

Things were bad before this, they’ll get even worse now.

And the fruitcakes here will want to send billions more

Since Yeltsin the smart play was to isolate away from all former Soviet States and let nature take its course. Keeping the U.S. and Western Europe out of it was essential. That way there is no way to be scapegoated.

Instead, the filthy Bidens have up to their keisters in backroom deals with the Ukraine. We need distance, not partners in crime. When this thing blows we don't need any culpability and yet here we are. Complete Eff up on diplomatic responsibility to the security and interests of the United States and our fellow NATO nations.

Elections have consequences and the last one could cost us dearly, or completely depending upon how things now unfold.

In the back of my mind are the 10,000 single Chinese male insurgents which were caught at the border. How many are here, and how much of the infrastructure issues have been sabotage done as practice for the main event?

Careful. The brain trust here that like seeing Russia run red with blood will call you a Putin lover.

We need to quit fueling that fire

Ha! I'm no Putin lover, but I sure as hell am a fan of letting a fascist thug and pretend commie dictator choke the life out of each other. That's what is in the best interest of a free Europe and for the poor people of all former Soviet States. Piss on backing Thug A or Thug B! That crap didn't work in Central America, South America, Africa, or Asia. Keep your money in your pocket, keep your distance, you don't want ring side seats, and watch this on Pay per View.
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(06-24-2023 05:47 AM)JRsec Wrote:  
(06-24-2023 05:38 AM)shere khan Wrote:  
(06-24-2023 05:36 AM)CardinalJim Wrote:  
(06-23-2023 08:27 PM)JRsec Wrote:  Well, we should all be mindful that when a monolithic nuclear power splinters into pieces that it's a heads-up moment for the rest of the world. And right now is the worst possible time to have a power-hungry dictator in China and an imbecile in the White House. Let's hope luck is on our side, because with the current policies of this country God sure isn't!

Preach it Brother

We got bigger fish to fry now than the idiots of the DC Uniparty. Who has control of the over 4500 nuclear weapons Russia has? That’s a question that a real leader would be asking.

Instead we’re stuck with a dimwit in the White House, conniving Pelosi, Schumer and Schiff along the spineless gutless McCarthy, McConnell, Graham in Congress. What a bunch of impotent elites we have in power.

I almost wish it was American soldiers marching towards DC to clean house.

By the time this is over China will be in Taiwan, Cuba and Canada, Russia and its nuclear arsenal will be in turmoil while our Commander in Chief concerns himself with problems like what ice cream to select with his tapioca.

Things were bad before this, they’ll get even worse now.

And the fruitcakes here will want to send billions more

Since Yeltsin the smart play was to isolate away from all former Soviet States and let nature take its course. Keeping the U.S. and Western Europe out of it was essential. That way there is no way to be scapegoated.

Instead, the filthy Bidens have up to their keisters in backroom deals with the Ukraine. We need distance, not partners in crime. When this thing blows we don't need any culpability and yet here we are. Complete Eff up on diplomatic responsibility to the security and interests of the United States and our fellow NATO nations.

Elections have consequences and the last one could cost us dearly, or completely depending upon how things now unfold.

In the back of my mind are the 10,000 single Chinese male insurgents which were caught at the border. How many are here, and how much of the infrastructure issues have been sabotage done as practice for the main event?

This administration would gladly support bringing down our Nation if they thought it would give them power for good. Even if it meant continuing to be subservient to the Chinese like its been since 2020, sadly this administration would do it.

The ineptitude of our president and his staff has to be on purpose. That’s the only way to explain wants going on in DC
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RE: Moscow attacks Wagner? Civil war started?
(06-24-2023 05:54 AM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  
(06-24-2023 05:31 AM)indianashocker Wrote:  Putin may get Gaddafi’d sooner than later.

Up to this point, the Russian National Guard is largely laying down its arms and allowing Wagner free passage. Wagner has taken over the cities & military command posts in both Rostov-on-Don & Voronezh (both with populations over 1M).

Russia has tried attacking Wagner columns with air support but at least 4 helicopters and 1 fighter jet have been taken out by portable air defense systems (Pantsir) that are being used by Wagner. Russia is setting up a defensive line about 50km south of Moscow. When Wagner reaches this area (likely later today), expect the fighting to heat up, but ultimately it's highly likely this become a battle in the streets of Moscow. Wagner is very well supplied with heavy equipment, tanks, artillery, etc. Sit back and enjoy this one.


You literally have no idea if any of that is true.

You, like everyone else, are totally in the dark on the REAL details here are have nothing but a sea of misinformation and propaganda to blindly cherry pick from.

We won't know what is going on until its done.

I see a lot of stupid people salivating at the idea of Putin being overthrown, and for all these idiots know that could be the worst possible outcome for America and the free world. That could make the whole situation 1000 times more dangerous.

Everything I posted I absolutely, 100% know to be true.

As far as salivating at Putin being overthrown, I agree there's potential successors who could be worse. Also several who could be better.
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RE: Moscow attacks Wagner? Civil war started?
(06-24-2023 05:58 AM)CardinalJim Wrote:  
(06-24-2023 05:47 AM)JRsec Wrote:  
(06-24-2023 05:38 AM)shere khan Wrote:  
(06-24-2023 05:36 AM)CardinalJim Wrote:  
(06-23-2023 08:27 PM)JRsec Wrote:  Well, we should all be mindful that when a monolithic nuclear power splinters into pieces that it's a heads-up moment for the rest of the world. And right now is the worst possible time to have a power-hungry dictator in China and an imbecile in the White House. Let's hope luck is on our side, because with the current policies of this country God sure isn't!

Preach it Brother

We got bigger fish to fry now than the idiots of the DC Uniparty. Who has control of the over 4500 nuclear weapons Russia has? That’s a question that a real leader would be asking.

Instead we’re stuck with a dimwit in the White House, conniving Pelosi, Schumer and Schiff along the spineless gutless McCarthy, McConnell, Graham in Congress. What a bunch of impotent elites we have in power.

I almost wish it was American soldiers marching towards DC to clean house.

By the time this is over China will be in Taiwan, Cuba and Canada, Russia and its nuclear arsenal will be in turmoil while our Commander in Chief concerns himself with problems like what ice cream to select with his tapioca.

Things were bad before this, they’ll get even worse now.

And the fruitcakes here will want to send billions more

Since Yeltsin the smart play was to isolate away from all former Soviet States and let nature take its course. Keeping the U.S. and Western Europe out of it was essential. That way there is no way to be scapegoated.

Instead, the filthy Bidens have up to their keisters in backroom deals with the Ukraine. We need distance, not partners in crime. When this thing blows we don't need any culpability and yet here we are. Complete Eff up on diplomatic responsibility to the security and interests of the United States and our fellow NATO nations.

Elections have consequences and the last one could cost us dearly, or completely depending upon how things now unfold.

In the back of my mind are the 10,000 single Chinese male insurgents which were caught at the border. How many are here, and how much of the infrastructure issues have been sabotage done as practice for the main event?

This administration would gladly support bringing down our Nation if they thought it would give them power for go. Even if it meant continuing to be subservient to the Chinese like its been since 2020, sadly this administration would do it.

The ineptitude of our president and his staff has to be on purpose. That’s the only way to explain wants going on in DC

And all this time I thought we had been secretly taken over by perverted space aliens. That seemed to be the only plausible explanation to me!
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