(06-17-2023 08:35 AM)stinkfist Wrote:  I’ll take the known entity vs. the unknown every day and the eighth one … regardless, #groverII is dead!

why? oh yeah, you know why ….


@>270EVsBlueBakedInn(127) ... (AM)
… I almost have it down to 30 secs. on me tele …

Ned Beatty it is then. Forgive me if I turn my head while Donald Trump again gets himself butt raped.

(06-17-2023 08:38 AM)AdoptedMonarch Wrote:  

(06-17-2023 08:35 AM)stinkfist Wrote:  I’ll take the known entity vs. the unknown every day and the eighth one … regardless, #groverII is dead!

why? oh yeah, you know why ….


@>270EVsBlueBakedInn(127) ... (AM)
… I almost have it down to 30 secs. on me tele …

Ned Beatty it is then. Forgive me if I turn my head while Donald Trump again gets himself butt raped.

Not the image I wanted in my head on a fine Saturday morning.

(06-17-2023 08:38 AM)AdoptedMonarch Wrote:  

(06-17-2023 08:35 AM)stinkfist Wrote:  I’ll take the known entity vs. the unknown every day and the eighth one … regardless, #groverII is dead!

why? oh yeah, you know why ….


@>270EVsBlueBakedInn(127) ... (AM)
… I almost have it down to 30 secs. on me tele …

Ned Beatty it is then. Forgive me if I turn my head while Donald Trump again gets himself butt raped.

are we having ‘fonzies’, yet?!

(06-16-2023 11:47 PM)tanqtonic Wrote:  

(06-16-2023 09:56 PM)Was SoMs Eagle Wrote:  

(06-16-2023 09:47 PM)BigTigerMike Wrote:  SMH!

He didn’t create anything. His enemies did and I’m not talking about mere partisan democrats, which is there but the fact remain it’s a small cabal that desires things in DC to run their way and Trumps presence brought these people out of the shadows

Facts:

1.In a historical & unprecedented way, leadership of the FBI open a bogus investigation into a major party nominee spurred on by partisans and by those [Comey] who admitted that this nominee was a threat in their mind and so they took it upon themselves to intervene and violated a lot of their supposed principles and standards

2. A bogus scandal engulfed his Administration for 3 years spurred on by a frenzied media 24/7 that ran with what anonymous sources [FBI, CIA, Congress] told them about this bogus scandal without stopping and questioning it

3. FBI and other agencies withheld damaging information from the American people and the President and more importantly didn’t seem to want to open an investigation about a former VP while the President was being impeached for asking questions about those very same corruption allegations about that person.


4. FBI and other agencies were involved in Jan 6 in some way according court documents and didn’t stop the events that unfolded

5. In unprecedented way the former President home was raided by his opposition and now he’s indicted by his opposition after the current President suggested that ‘we’ were going make sure he doesn’t take power if he ran through various ways.

But the Ginny says read the indictment! Moronotrons.

You probably still havent read it. Along with any of the actual court filings from previously.

Easier to just regurgitate speculative swill than actually read the source materials.

But then again, apparently your idea of effectively rebutting facts seems to be nothing more than the whiny snot-nosed middle school name calling you exhibit so proudly above. Bravo.

I assume you are older than 11 years. Kind of sad that is your main go to.

Oh well. Lolz.

I’ll respond to this because you deserve it.
I don’t give a single rat chit about reading that crap. I’ve seen that crap for near 8 years now. They (the FBI DOJ) do not deserve one damn minute of my time reading their total chit. They gave up that right years ago. Only moronotrons such as yourself, with their TDS baked in, want so desperately to believe this crap. Go to it you ignorant ass. Believe all you want. But you will not change one mind here.

(06-17-2023 08:22 AM)AdoptedMonarch Wrote:  

(06-17-2023 07:31 AM)BigTigerMike Wrote:  SMH!

He didn’t create anything. His enemies did and I’m not talking about mere partisan democrats, which is there but the fact remain it’s a small cabal that desires things in DC to run their way and Trumps presence brought these people out of the shadows

Facts:

1.In a historical & unprecedented way, leadership of the FBI open a bogus investigation into a major party nominee spurred on by partisans and by those [Comey] who admitted that this nominee was a threat in their mind and so they took it upon themselves to intervene and violated a lot of their supposed principles and standards

2. A bogus scandal engulfed his Administration for 3 years spurred on by a frenzied media 24/7 that ran with what anonymous sources [FBI, CIA, Congress] told them about this bogus scandal without stopping and questioning it

3. FBI and other agencies withheld damaging information from the American people and the President and more importantly seem to want to open an investigation about an opposing candidate while the President was being impeached for asking questions about those very same corruption allegations about that candidate.


4. FBI and other agencies were involved in Jan 6 in some way according court documents and didn’t stop the events that unfolded

5. In unprecedented way the former President home was raided by his opposition and now he’s indicted by his opposition

Every single one of your listed points is true. And every one of them shows an appalling capture of the levers of power by awful, ill-meaning people. It needs to be rooted out.

President Trump, sadly, had his chance to do so. He failed miserably. There are lots of ways to excuse that. "He was a political outsider and didn't understand the depth of the corruption." "He was duped by treasonous appointees, who lied to his face." "He was never given a fair shake by the media." "It's the stupidity and weakness of the of the Republican leadership, that just wants to be liked."

All of that is true. Yet it changes nothing.

We now have a set of Republican presidential contenders who are professing to understand the problem and to know how to attack it:

--> Ron DeSantis: “If you’re performing poorly, you should be fired. It doesn’t matter if you’re a bureaucrat or if you’re a political appointee.”

--> Nikki Haley: “Getting rid of just senior management isn’t going to be enough to fix this. This is going to take a complete overhaul.”

--> Tim Scott: "I think the actual leadership of the FBI should be fired. There is a culture that seeps down and distorts and destroys the integrity and competence of the American people, and that has to be uprooted."

--> Vivek Ramaswamy: Shut down the FBI and the IRS, whose “culture . . . cannot be reformed”.

Can we trust them? Maybe not. We've all been let down before. But why should we not trust them, many of whom have already proved to be effective and reliable, but then naively put our faith back in Donald Trump, who has proved to be ineffective and unreliable?

He doesn't know how to fix the problem. All he wants is to be vindicated. Instead of telling us how he intends to address and reform the deep state, as the other candidates have done, Donald wants to use the same politicized tools against his enemies: promising to appoint a “real special prosecutor” to “go after” the “entire Biden crime family.”

Linked source: https://www.wsj.com/articles/how-to-arre...eatst_pos1

Somewhere else on this forum, one of you posted a clip from the "Squeal like a piggy" scene from Deliverance. Watching that, it is hard not see Donald Trump as the Ned Beatty rape victim, now crying for Burt Reynolds to come and deliver justice.

We do live in interesting times. I’m old but I hope I live long enough to see the end of this movie. People will either eat a lot of crow, claim they were right all along or nothing will change. I will be sadly disappointed if nothing changes.

(06-17-2023 08:38 AM)AdoptedMonarch Wrote:  

(06-17-2023 08:35 AM)stinkfist Wrote:  I’ll take the known entity vs. the unknown every day and the eighth one … regardless, #groverII is dead!

why? oh yeah, you know why ….


@>270EVsBlueBakedInn(127) ... (AM)
… I almost have it down to 30 secs. on me tele …

Ned Beatty it is then. Forgive me if I turn my head while Donald Trump again gets himself butt raped.

If that is what awaits him, I feel incredibly sorry for whoever might be that guy if Trump isn’t.

(06-16-2023 02:32 PM)gdunn Wrote:  

(06-16-2023 02:26 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(06-16-2023 01:24 PM)BartlettTigerFan Wrote:  

(06-16-2023 01:22 PM)MileHighBronco Wrote:  We are not electing a pastor for our church. Trump has lots of personal personality issues that some cite as the reason they won't vote for him. I simply ask these people, "do you want change?" If yes, none of the other GOP candidates, with the possible exception of DeSantis, will bring change. The others will bring more of the same that we've seen. RESULTS matter and Trump does have a track record, all in the face of relentless attacks by the left and the establishment right.

his one saving grace would be following through on torching the swamp in the term of 2nd endearments...

however, I'm in the camp of ... yeah just for , AM .....

@>270EVsBlueBakedInn(125) ... (AM)

While I agree.. We're seeing what they're doing to him now because they all know what will come if he pulls off a re-election and the critters are nervous. Because in a 2nd term, he won't seek re-election..

They also want to make an example out of him so no more outsiders try to run especially if they can't be bought... That's one reason why Viveck interests me, cause he doesn't need DC to be wealthy, he's a self made millionaire.

He wasn't very successful at it the first term. He selected a lot of weak people around him. He didn't fire a lot of people who needed to be fired.

He implemented some good policies but failed miserably at doing anything with the bureaucracy.

(06-16-2023 11:50 PM)tanqtonic Wrote:  

(06-16-2023 11:48 PM)WalkThePlank Wrote:  

(06-16-2023 09:47 PM)BigTigerMike Wrote:  SMH!

He didn’t create anything. His enemies did and I’m not talking about mere partisan democrats, which is there but the fact remain it’s a small cabal that desires things in DC to run their way and Trumps presence brought these people out of the shadows

Facts:

1.In a historical & unprecedented way, leadership of the FBI open a bogus investigation into a major party nominee spurred on by partisans and by those [Comey] who admitted that this nominee was a threat in their mind and so they took it upon themselves to intervene and violated a lot of their supposed principles and standards

2. A bogus scandal engulfed his Administration for 3 years spurred on by a frenzied media 24/7 that ran with what anonymous sources [FBI, CIA, Congress] told them about this bogus scandal without stopping and questioning it

3. FBI and other agencies withheld damaging information from the American people and the President and more importantly didn’t seem to want to open an investigation about a former VP while the President was being impeached for asking questions about those very same corruption allegations about that person.


4. FBI and other agencies were involved in Jan 6 in some way according court documents and didn’t stop the events that unfolded

5. In unprecedented way the former President home was raided by his opposition and now he’s indicted by his opposition after the current President suggested that ‘we’ were going make sure he doesn’t take power if he ran through various ways.

Facts

Most people with above an 8th grade education readily identify the vast majority of the above as no more than opinion, or just rank speculation. and some statements simply false due to rank generalization.

Apparently you arent in that group able to discern that.

Everything he said was 100% fact. You aren't able to admit that.
Now some of what YOU say may also be true, but there is nobody with an ounce of common sense who can deny #1-#5 are more or less true. So I guess you are devoid of either common sense or honesty.

(06-17-2023 10:11 AM)Was SoMs Eagle Wrote:  

(06-16-2023 11:47 PM)tanqtonic Wrote:  

(06-16-2023 09:56 PM)Was SoMs Eagle Wrote:  

(06-16-2023 09:47 PM)BigTigerMike Wrote:  SMH!

He didn’t create anything. His enemies did and I’m not talking about mere partisan democrats, which is there but the fact remain it’s a small cabal that desires things in DC to run their way and Trumps presence brought these people out of the shadows

Facts:

1.In a historical & unprecedented way, leadership of the FBI open a bogus investigation into a major party nominee spurred on by partisans and by those [Comey] who admitted that this nominee was a threat in their mind and so they took it upon themselves to intervene and violated a lot of their supposed principles and standards

2. A bogus scandal engulfed his Administration for 3 years spurred on by a frenzied media 24/7 that ran with what anonymous sources [FBI, CIA, Congress] told them about this bogus scandal without stopping and questioning it

3. FBI and other agencies withheld damaging information from the American people and the President and more importantly didn’t seem to want to open an investigation about a former VP while the President was being impeached for asking questions about those very same corruption allegations about that person.


4. FBI and other agencies were involved in Jan 6 in some way according court documents and didn’t stop the events that unfolded

5. In unprecedented way the former President home was raided by his opposition and now he’s indicted by his opposition after the current President suggested that ‘we’ were going make sure he doesn’t take power if he ran through various ways.

But the Ginny says read the indictment! Moronotrons.

You probably still havent read it. Along with any of the actual court filings from previously.

Easier to just regurgitate speculative swill than actually read the source materials.

But then again, apparently your idea of effectively rebutting facts seems to be nothing more than the whiny snot-nosed middle school name calling you exhibit so proudly above. Bravo.

I assume you are older than 11 years. Kind of sad that is your main go to.

Oh well. Lolz.

I’ll respond to this because you deserve it.

I don’t give a single rat chit about reading that crap.

Awesome, you spout whatever hogwash you feel like, because you dont want to bother to read about it.

Brilliant.

Quote: But you will not change one mind here.

Considering the ignorance you proudly profess above, I am not surprised in your case.

That is true brilliance -- 'I yam gonner thunk whatever I want, cuz I aint gonner read nun uv the underlying paper thingies on it.'

Lolz. Good for you.

Yeah, go back to your Kash Patel and his 'throwtogethersomeHogwashAndletTheHomiesSlurpUpTheShitCuzTheyRefuseToConsiderAnythingThatCutsAcrossTheirOpinion.com'

That seems just about the right speed for you.

(06-17-2023 08:45 AM)BartlettTigerFan Wrote:  

(06-17-2023 08:38 AM)AdoptedMonarch Wrote:  

(06-17-2023 08:35 AM)stinkfist Wrote:  I’ll take the known entity vs. the unknown every day and the eighth one … regardless, #groverII is dead!

why? oh yeah, you know why ….


@>270EVsBlueBakedInn(127) ... (AM)
… I almost have it down to 30 secs. on me tele …

Ned Beatty it is then. Forgive me if I turn my head while Donald Trump again gets himself butt raped.

Not the image I wanted in my head on a fine Saturday morning.

(06-17-2023 10:40 AM)bullet Wrote:  

(06-16-2023 11:50 PM)tanqtonic Wrote:  

(06-16-2023 11:48 PM)WalkThePlank Wrote:  

(06-16-2023 09:47 PM)BigTigerMike Wrote:  SMH!

He didn’t create anything. His enemies did and I’m not talking about mere partisan democrats, which is there but the fact remain it’s a small cabal that desires things in DC to run their way and Trumps presence brought these people out of the shadows

Facts:

1.In a historical & unprecedented way, leadership of the FBI open a bogus investigation into a major party nominee spurred on by partisans and by those [Comey] who admitted that this nominee was a threat in their mind and so they took it upon themselves to intervene and violated a lot of their supposed principles and standards

2. A bogus scandal engulfed his Administration for 3 years spurred on by a frenzied media 24/7 that ran with what anonymous sources [FBI, CIA, Congress] told them about this bogus scandal without stopping and questioning it

3. FBI and other agencies withheld damaging information from the American people and the President and more importantly didn’t seem to want to open an investigation about a former VP while the President was being impeached for asking questions about those very same corruption allegations about that person.


4. FBI and other agencies were involved in Jan 6 in some way according court documents and didn’t stop the events that unfolded

5. In unprecedented way the former President home was raided by his opposition and now he’s indicted by his opposition after the current President suggested that ‘we’ were going make sure he doesn’t take power if he ran through various ways.

Facts

Most people with above an 8th grade education readily identify the vast majority of the above as no more than opinion, or just rank speculation. and some statements simply false due to rank generalization.

Apparently you arent in that group able to discern that.

Everything he said was 100% fact. You aren't able to admit that.
Now some of what YOU say may also be true, but there is nobody with an ounce of common sense who can deny #1-#5 are more or less true. So I guess you are devoid of either common sense or honesty.

there is a big difference between 100% fact and 'more of less true'. Which is it?

There is a lot of opinion adjectives in the comments, just as a first blush.

(06-17-2023 10:35 AM)bullet Wrote:  

(06-16-2023 02:32 PM)gdunn Wrote:  

(06-16-2023 02:26 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(06-16-2023 01:24 PM)BartlettTigerFan Wrote:  

(06-16-2023 01:22 PM)MileHighBronco Wrote:  We are not electing a pastor for our church. Trump has lots of personal personality issues that some cite as the reason they won't vote for him. I simply ask these people, "do you want change?" If yes, none of the other GOP candidates, with the possible exception of DeSantis, will bring change. The others will bring more of the same that we've seen. RESULTS matter and Trump does have a track record, all in the face of relentless attacks by the left and the establishment right.

his one saving grace would be following through on torching the swamp in the term of 2nd endearments...

however, I'm in the camp of ... yeah just for , AM .....

@>270EVsBlueBakedInn(125) ... (AM)

While I agree.. We're seeing what they're doing to him now because they all know what will come if he pulls off a re-election and the critters are nervous. Because in a 2nd term, he won't seek re-election..

They also want to make an example out of him so no more outsiders try to run especially if they can't be bought... That's one reason why Viveck interests me, cause he doesn't need DC to be wealthy, he's a self made millionaire.

He wasn't very successful at it the first term. He selected a lot of weak people around him. He didn't fire a lot of people who needed to be fired.

He implemented some good policies but failed miserably at doing anything with the bureaucracy.

I’ll agree … however, #groverII can easily be more dangerous than vers. 1 … the enigma is simply, ‘will/would he?’

I’m sticking with muh running tally vs. AM …

(06-16-2023 11:50 PM)tanqtonic Wrote:  

(06-16-2023 11:48 PM)WalkThePlank Wrote:  

(06-16-2023 09:47 PM)BigTigerMike Wrote:  SMH!

He didn’t create anything. His enemies did and I’m not talking about mere partisan democrats, which is there but the fact remain it’s a small cabal that desires things in DC to run their way and Trumps presence brought these people out of the shadows

Facts:

1.In a historical & unprecedented way, leadership of the FBI open a bogus investigation into a major party nominee spurred on by partisans and by those [Comey] who admitted that this nominee was a threat in their mind and so they took it upon themselves to intervene and violated a lot of their supposed principles and standards

2. A bogus scandal engulfed his Administration for 3 years spurred on by a frenzied media 24/7 that ran with what anonymous sources [FBI, CIA, Congress] told them about this bogus scandal without stopping and questioning it

3. FBI and other agencies withheld damaging information from the American people and the President and more importantly didn’t seem to want to open an investigation about a former VP while the President was being impeached for asking questions about those very same corruption allegations about that person.


4. FBI and other agencies were involved in Jan 6 in some way according court documents and didn’t stop the events that unfolded

5. In unprecedented way the former President home was raided by his opposition and now he’s indicted by his opposition after the current President suggested that ‘we’ were going make sure he doesn’t take power if he ran through various ways.

Facts

Most people with above an 8th grade education readily identify the vast majority of the above as no more than opinion, or just rank speculation. and some statements simply false due to rank generalization.

Apparently you arent in that group able to discern that.

To be fair, your opinions suck too.

You claim to have all the facts yet revert to kindergarten insults to make your points. You’re a fraud. Move along.


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(06-17-2023 12:04 PM)WalkThePlank Wrote:  

(06-16-2023 11:50 PM)tanqtonic Wrote:  

(06-16-2023 11:48 PM)WalkThePlank Wrote:  

(06-16-2023 09:47 PM)BigTigerMike Wrote:  SMH!

He didn’t create anything. His enemies did and I’m not talking about mere partisan democrats, which is there but the fact remain it’s a small cabal that desires things in DC to run their way and Trumps presence brought these people out of the shadows

Facts:

1.In a historical & unprecedented way, leadership of the FBI open a bogus investigation into a major party nominee spurred on by partisans and by those [Comey] who admitted that this nominee was a threat in their mind and so they took it upon themselves to intervene and violated a lot of their supposed principles and standards

2. A bogus scandal engulfed his Administration for 3 years spurred on by a frenzied media 24/7 that ran with what anonymous sources [FBI, CIA, Congress] told them about this bogus scandal without stopping and questioning it

3. FBI and other agencies withheld damaging information from the American people and the President and more importantly didn’t seem to want to open an investigation about a former VP while the President was being impeached for asking questions about those very same corruption allegations about that person.


4. FBI and other agencies were involved in Jan 6 in some way according court documents and didn’t stop the events that unfolded

5. In unprecedented way the former President home was raided by his opposition and now he’s indicted by his opposition after the current President suggested that ‘we’ were going make sure he doesn’t take power if he ran through various ways.

Facts

Most people with above an 8th grade education readily identify the vast majority of the above as no more than opinion, or just rank speculation. and some statements simply false due to rank generalization.

Apparently you arent in that group able to discern that.

To be fair, your opinions suck too.

Apparently not so far to the 11th Circ. or SCOTUS in this issue. But, you be you.

And, at least I can easily recognize an issue of fact vs an issue of opinion. That seems to be stretch for some.

For example, that last sentence is an 'opinion'. While the one just before this sentence is a 'fact'. Basics like that should be important to discern. Have a wonderful day, Plankman

(06-17-2023 12:10 PM)tanqtonic Wrote:  

(06-17-2023 12:04 PM)WalkThePlank Wrote:  

(06-16-2023 11:50 PM)tanqtonic Wrote:  

(06-16-2023 11:48 PM)WalkThePlank Wrote:  

(06-16-2023 09:47 PM)BigTigerMike Wrote:  SMH!

He didn’t create anything. His enemies did and I’m not talking about mere partisan democrats, which is there but the fact remain it’s a small cabal that desires things in DC to run their way and Trumps presence brought these people out of the shadows

Facts:

1.In a historical & unprecedented way, leadership of the FBI open a bogus investigation into a major party nominee spurred on by partisans and by those [Comey] who admitted that this nominee was a threat in their mind and so they took it upon themselves to intervene and violated a lot of their supposed principles and standards

2. A bogus scandal engulfed his Administration for 3 years spurred on by a frenzied media 24/7 that ran with what anonymous sources [FBI, CIA, Congress] told them about this bogus scandal without stopping and questioning it

3. FBI and other agencies withheld damaging information from the American people and the President and more importantly didn’t seem to want to open an investigation about a former VP while the President was being impeached for asking questions about those very same corruption allegations about that person.


4. FBI and other agencies were involved in Jan 6 in some way according court documents and didn’t stop the events that unfolded

5. In unprecedented way the former President home was raided by his opposition and now he’s indicted by his opposition after the current President suggested that ‘we’ were going make sure he doesn’t take power if he ran through various ways.

Facts

Most people with above an 8th grade education readily identify the vast majority of the above as no more than opinion, or just rank speculation. and some statements simply false due to rank generalization.

Apparently you arent in that group able to discern that.

To be fair, your opinions suck too.

Apparently not so far to the 11th Circ. or SCOTUS in this issue. But, you be you.

And, at least I can easily recognize an issue of fact vs an issue of opinion. That seems to be stretch for some.

For example, that last sentence is an 'opinion'. While the one just before this sentence is a 'fact'. Basics like that should be important to discern. Have a wonderful day, Plankman

Regurgitating other people’s opinions doesn’t make you a deep thinker. Have a nice day of ambulance chasing. Stay vigilant


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Genius! We no longer need courts or a legal system. We have taint!

Just a reminder that when it comes to pro-bono work, you get what you paid for.

(06-17-2023 12:10 PM)tanqtonic Wrote:  

(06-17-2023 12:04 PM)WalkThePlank Wrote:  

(06-16-2023 11:50 PM)tanqtonic Wrote:  

(06-16-2023 11:48 PM)WalkThePlank Wrote:  

(06-16-2023 09:47 PM)BigTigerMike Wrote:  SMH!

He didn’t create anything. His enemies did and I’m not talking about mere partisan democrats, which is there but the fact remain it’s a small cabal that desires things in DC to run their way and Trumps presence brought these people out of the shadows

Facts:

1.In a historical & unprecedented way, leadership of the FBI open a bogus investigation into a major party nominee spurred on by partisans and by those [Comey] who admitted that this nominee was a threat in their mind and so they took it upon themselves to intervene and violated a lot of their supposed principles and standards

2. A bogus scandal engulfed his Administration for 3 years spurred on by a frenzied media 24/7 that ran with what anonymous sources [FBI, CIA, Congress] told them about this bogus scandal without stopping and questioning it

3. FBI and other agencies withheld damaging information from the American people and the President and more importantly didn’t seem to want to open an investigation about a former VP while the President was being impeached for asking questions about those very same corruption allegations about that person.


4. FBI and other agencies were involved in Jan 6 in some way according court documents and didn’t stop the events that unfolded

5. In unprecedented way the former President home was raided by his opposition and now he’s indicted by his opposition after the current President suggested that ‘we’ were going make sure he doesn’t take power if he ran through various ways.

Facts

Most people with above an 8th grade education readily identify the vast majority of the above as no more than opinion, or just rank speculation. and some statements simply false due to rank generalization.

Apparently you arent in that group able to discern that.

To be fair, your opinions suck too.

Apparently not so far to the 11th Circ. or SCOTUS in this issue. But, you be you.

And, at least I can easily recognize an issue of fact vs an issue of opinion. That seems to be stretch for some.

For example, that last sentence is an 'opinion'. While the one just before this sentence is a 'fact'. Basics like that should be important to discern. Have a wonderful day, Plankman

Fact is nobody here agrees with you, but Tommie Boi yet you continue the next chapter of War and Peace and have convinced no one.

Why are so many Trump supporters here pretending that the outcome of the trial actually matters to them in terms of whether Trump is innocent or guilty? If he is deemed guilty not one of his supporters here is going to change their mind and suddenly think, ya I guess Trump did do it. Pretty sure Trump could murder someone in broad daylight on camera and there would be many here who would think it was a deep state hit on Trump.

And yes the same goes for the other side. Most on the left think Trump is guilty whether he comes out innocent or not.

Very few will actually look at the facts displayed and decide for themselves. They already decided long before.

Well, EE.......7 years of non-stop B.S. allegations against the man do have an effect.

But continue on with your virtue signal.