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(05-18-2023 07:11 PM)OKIcat Wrote:  My take? Much of this is disinformation aimed at pressuring WA/OR to jump to the B10...

What makes you think WA/OR need pressure to jump to the B10? In my opinion, they are dying for an invite and would probably make a lot of financial concessions to make it happen.

i think it'll be stanford and the ducks to the big. stanford has more of a big 10 profile than warshington

(05-19-2023 12:45 PM)Bearhawkeye Wrote:  

(05-18-2023 07:11 PM)OKIcat Wrote:  My take? Much of this is disinformation aimed at pressuring WA/OR to jump to the B10...

What makes you think WA/OR need pressure to jump to the B10? In my opinion, they are dying for an invite and would probably make a lot of financial concessions to make it happen.

All just opinion here but could it be Oregon and Stanford that are most desired by the B10?

I think it's a game of who blinks first right now. The B10 folks seem worried about "destroying the Pac 12" if they pull two more bricks out of that foundation, and they're probably right about that outcome. Seems they might be waiting for the B12 to move on 2-4 of the 4 corners schools so they can rationalize that the B12 killed the Pac 12, not the B10. And the trial balloons being floated about UCONN (or even Gonzaga) to the B12 to me are nothing more than applying pressure to AZ and CO to make the first move out or face being left behind outside the power conference structure when the wounded Pac 12 comes undone.

(05-19-2023 02:02 PM)OKIcat Wrote:  

(05-19-2023 12:45 PM)Bearhawkeye Wrote:  

(05-18-2023 07:11 PM)OKIcat Wrote:  My take? Much of this is disinformation aimed at pressuring WA/OR to jump to the B10...

What makes you think WA/OR need pressure to jump to the B10? In my opinion, they are dying for an invite and would probably make a lot of financial concessions to make it happen.

All just opinion here but could it be Oregon and Stanford that are most desired by the B10?

I'm still not following your theory. Who is floating the trial balloons? And if the B10 really wanted OR and Stanford why would they be trying to pressure WA (and Oregon) instead?

(05-19-2023 06:15 PM)Bearhawkeye Wrote:  

(05-19-2023 02:02 PM)OKIcat Wrote:  

(05-19-2023 12:45 PM)Bearhawkeye Wrote:  

(05-18-2023 07:11 PM)OKIcat Wrote:  My take? Much of this is disinformation aimed at pressuring WA/OR to jump to the B10...

What makes you think WA/OR need pressure to jump to the B10? In my opinion, they are dying for an invite and would probably make a lot of financial concessions to make it happen.

All just opinion here but could it be Oregon and Stanford that are most desired by the B10?

I'm still not following your theory. Who is floating the trial balloons? And if the B10 really wanted OR and Stanford why would they be trying to pressure WA (and Oregon) instead?

We know from our own experience in the old Big East that school presidents and athletic directors weren't necessarily being forthright in their dealings with leadership at other conference schools, so some mistrust is implicit in these matters. The trail balloons are simply alleged "leaks" from some who could be credible insider sources that sometimes get floated to legitimate media (Brett McMurphy) who report them. More often, these quickly find a home on social media in fan-oriented websites and podcasts where sycophants of a particular conference manufacture beneficial scenarios as clickbait.

Regarding Stanford, I believe they are still in play for the B10--maybe Cal too. A western "pod" or division makes more sense logistically than two schools in L.A., thousands of miles from fellow conference members. Would the B10 immediately take four more schools from the Pac 12 and essentially be blamed for killing that conference? I think not. The B10 probably wants two more but has a contingency plan if either OR or WA get a sweetheart deal to stay in the Pac 12 (uneven revenue sharing; it's own "network" such as Texas had).

I'm not claiming any inside information. I simply wanted to share an update on this topic based on published reports in recent days. Any movement with the B10 is highly likely to trigger our new conference's expansion plans in the four corners states or elsewhere and then the demise of the Pac 12 as we know it.

The latest on Colorado. Persistent rumors now that the Buffaloes will return to the Big 12. Only rumors of course, but this article provides some insight on what may happen.

https://www.cbssports.com/college-footba...ng-pac-12/

Right now, it appears that if one Pac 12 team defects to the Big 12 it could set off a chain of events that sees Utah, ASU, and Arizona following Colorado's lead. The B10 could then move forward with whatever Pac 12 schools it wishes as the conference will be wiped out already by the losses of UCLA, USC, and those four corners schools.

Still not sure i see the money benefit of arizona AND arizona st. Not positive we'd want to double up in Utah either. Not against it, but seems like doubling up in those states wouldnt be financially worth the add. Especially with more options with a potential acc raid later on the horizon.

I think the main value of taking all four is the killing of the PAC as a power conference. If you only take two teams and just wound the PAC, they may be back for vengeance in a few years. Not sure we shouldn't see if we can just get Arizona and Colorado and make the B1G deliver the death blow.

(05-30-2023 02:16 PM)cincy7718 Wrote:  Still not sure i see the money benefit of arizona AND arizona st. Not positive we'd want to double up in Utah either. Not against it, but seems like doubling up in those states wouldnt be financially worth the add. Especially with more options with a potential acc raid later on the horizon.

I believe the reason for taking both AZ schools and even doubling up in UT is to add a solid amount of inventory of west coast/mountain time zone sports to sell making the conference the only 4 time zone choice. This would guarantee that no matter where in the country a viewer (and more importantly an advertiser) is, you would/could see Big XII teams and events as headline/main attraction events that command more viewership eyes and accordingly advertising dollars. The 4 time zone concept alone makes all media rights for the league more valuable IMO if the names are sufficiently attractive - hence Gonzaga and the former Pac 12 schools. Just my two cents worth

(05-18-2023 08:41 PM)Bear Catlett Wrote:  Good lord, please no UConn.

They will try to run the conference.

So we may be seeing Deion walking the sidelines at Nippert after all?
(if he lasts that long)

(05-31-2023 06:38 AM)Cat-Man Wrote:  So we may be seeing Deion walking the sidelines at Nippert after all?
(if he lasts that long)

Sounds as though he is really pushing them for it...I don't want to see Deion recruiting Texas...

(05-31-2023 08:46 AM)BearcatMan Wrote:  

(05-31-2023 06:38 AM)Cat-Man Wrote:  So we may be seeing Deion walking the sidelines at Nippert after all?
(if he lasts that long)

Sounds as though he is really pushing them for it...I don't want to see Deion recruiting Texas...

Deion already has a nationwide reach because he's Deion. If he proves successful at CU, recruits will be attracted to him like iron filings to a magnet. That's the power of personality and of reputation. If, on the other hand, he fizzles, then he's like everyone else.

(05-31-2023 09:23 AM)colohank Wrote:  

(05-31-2023 08:46 AM)BearcatMan Wrote:  

(05-31-2023 06:38 AM)Cat-Man Wrote:  So we may be seeing Deion walking the sidelines at Nippert after all?
(if he lasts that long)

Sounds as though he is really pushing them for it...I don't want to see Deion recruiting Texas...

Deion already has a nationwide reach because he's Deion. If he proves successful at CU, recruits will be attracted to him like iron filings to a magnet. That's the power of personality and of reputation. If, on the other hand, he fizzles, then he's like everyone else.

Yep, he certainly wouldn't be the first superstar celebrity player to fail in high major coaching. I feel as if he'll succeed and the smoke signals out west do strongly suggest he is driving the bus right now for Colorado to the Big 12. That's not hard to figure out since it puts their games on ESPN and Fox cable/broadcast TV nationwide rather than a streaming service in the Pac 12.

IMO one of two things will happen. He will fail or he will be successful for a couple of years and the NFL will come calling because he is who he is.

(05-31-2023 01:34 PM)Cat-Man Wrote:  IMO one of two things will happen. He will fail or he will be successful for a couple of years and the NFL will come calling because he is who he is.

I don't know if that kind of personality would work well in the NFL...but that will almost assuredly happen lol.

Hiring Coach Pime always meant any wins will be gravy early on. CO is printing $$ right now.

Sold out season tickets licketty split, deep wait list with deposits, and then sold close to 12,000 straggler single game tix in one day last week. Ad revenue exploded. Merch is flying off shelves and not just in CO...and the media can't get enough of the show.

It was a smart hire.

(05-31-2023 04:14 PM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  Hiring Coach Pime always meant any wins will be gravy early on. CO is printing $$ right now.

Sold out season tickets licketty split, deep wait list with deposits, and then sold close to 12,000 straggler single game tix in one day last week. Ad revenue exploded. Merch is flying off shelves and not just in CO...and the media can't get enough of the show.

It was a smart hire.

We’ll see if it’s a smart hire..don’t think he was a fit for Cincinnati..

(05-31-2023 05:15 PM)uchoops Wrote:  

(05-31-2023 04:14 PM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  Hiring Coach Pime always meant any wins will be gravy early on. CO is printing $$ right now.

Sold out season tickets licketty split, deep wait list with deposits, and then sold close to 12,000 straggler single game tix in one day last week. Ad revenue exploded. Merch is flying off shelves and not just in CO...and the media can't get enough of the show.

It was a smart hire.

We’ll see if it’s a smart hire..don’t think he was a fit for Cincinnati..

I think he was a really smart hire at Colorado. That program was a mess. Nothing else was working.. if he's a complete and total bust they'll make some money and get some attention doing it. If it works, even better.

Colorado was exactly the program that should have taken a shot like that.