(01-08-2023 12:54 PM)Tiger87 Wrote:  

(01-08-2023 10:06 AM)Eagleonpar Wrote:  Interesting tidbit: 4 of the AAC newcomers for next year are in the top 100. FAU and North Texas are both top 40 as of now.

I haven't spent much time looking at the newcomers bb rankings - only fb. But I'm actually looking forward to UNT, UTSA, UAB, FAU joining. It's the Rice & Charlotte adds that will be anchors on the conference ratings.

Charlotte is top 100

(01-08-2023 05:37 PM)mempho_to_diego Wrote:  FYI - changed the title of the thread, so future convos on RPI RANKINGS can be had here, for the 2022-2023 season

Thanks. Though I've been using this to update all rankings - not just RPI.

(01-09-2023 11:29 AM)Tiger87 Wrote:  

(01-08-2023 05:37 PM)mempho_to_diego Wrote:  FYI - changed the title of the thread, so future convos on RPI RANKINGS can be had here, for the 2022-2023 season

Thanks. Though I've been using this to update all rankings - not just RPI.

Ignore the thread title. It will be okay.

Update this week, after ECU win:

NR - AP
NR - Coaches
59 - NET (-2)
36 - KenPom (-4)
27 - Torvik (-2)
46 - Sagarin (-3)
46 - ESPN BPI (-2)
26 - RPI (+3)

9-seed Lunardi (-1)

(01-09-2023 06:29 PM)Tiger87 Wrote:  Update this week, after ECU win:

NR - AP
NR - Coaches
59 - NET (-2)
36 - KenPom (-4)
27 - Torvik (-2)
46 - Sagarin (-3)
46 - ESPN BPI (-2)
26 - RPI (+3)

9-seed Lunardi (-1)

thanks keep-a-goin.

Update this week after UCF loss and Temple win:

NR - AP
NR - Coaches
46 - NET (+13)
36 - KenPom (no change)
27 - Torvik (no change)
47 - Sagarin (-1)
44 - ESPN BPI (+2)
21 - RPI (+5)

11-seed Lunardi (-2)

Last week, the NET - which is the "primary" NCAA selection tool - had us at #59 and Lunardi had us at a 9-seed.
This week, we are up 13 spots in the NET to #46, but Lunardi drops us 2 lines to an 11-seed.
NCAA selection is always a weird animal.

(01-17-2023 08:30 AM)Tiger87 Wrote:  Update this week after UCF loss and Temple win:

NR - AP
NR - Coaches
46 - NET (+13)
36 - KenPom (no change)
27 - Torvik (no change)
47 - Sagarin (-1)
44 - ESPN BPI (+2)
21 - RPI (+5)

11-seed Lunardi (-2)

Last week, the NET - which is the "primary" NCAA selection tool - had us at #59 and Lunardi had us at a 9-seed.
This week, we are up 13 spots in the NET to #46, but Lunardi drops us 2 lines to an 11-seed.
NCAA selection is always a weird animal.

Lunardi’s update was before the Temple game

(01-17-2023 08:33 AM)tiger1016 Wrote:  

(01-17-2023 08:30 AM)Tiger87 Wrote:  Update this week after UCF loss and Temple win:

NR - AP
NR - Coaches
46 - NET (+13)
36 - KenPom (no change)
27 - Torvik (no change)
47 - Sagarin (-1)
44 - ESPN BPI (+2)
21 - RPI (+5)

11-seed Lunardi (-2)

Last week, the NET - which is the "primary" NCAA selection tool - had us at #59 and Lunardi had us at a 9-seed.
This week, we are up 13 spots in the NET to #46, but Lunardi drops us 2 lines to an 11-seed.
NCAA selection is always a weird animal.

Lunardi’s update was before the Temple game

Ah, you are correct. He hasn't updated since Friday morning. He said he was going to do updates 2x per week for the rest of the season. But he hasn't updated since the weekend's games. Goofy.

(01-17-2023 09:39 AM)Tiger87 Wrote:  

(01-17-2023 08:33 AM)tiger1016 Wrote:  

(01-17-2023 08:30 AM)Tiger87 Wrote:  Update this week after UCF loss and Temple win:

NR - AP
NR - Coaches
46 - NET (+13)
36 - KenPom (no change)
27 - Torvik (no change)
47 - Sagarin (-1)
44 - ESPN BPI (+2)
21 - RPI (+5)

11-seed Lunardi (-2)

Last week, the NET - which is the "primary" NCAA selection tool - had us at #59 and Lunardi had us at a 9-seed.
This week, we are up 13 spots in the NET to #46, but Lunardi drops us 2 lines to an 11-seed.
NCAA selection is always a weird animal.

Lunardi’s update was before the Temple game

Ah, you are correct. He hasn't updated since Friday morning. He said he was going to do updates 2x per week for the rest of the season. But he hasn't updated since the weekend's games. Goofy.

"And did we tell you the name of the game, boy? We call it Riding the Gravy Train..." - Joe Lunardi (apologies to Roger Waters)

Rankings update this week after Wichita and Cincy wins:
42 - AP (1 vote)
NR - Coaches (no votes)
37 - NET (up 9)
32 - KenPom (up 4)
27 - Torvik (no change)
36 - Sagarin (up 11)
39 - ESPN BPI (up 5)
18 - RPI (up 3)

Bracketology:
Palm CBS 8-seed

Katz and Lunardi (slackers) not updated after Cincy win:
Lunardi ESPN 11-seed (no change)
Katz 11-seed play-in

Researching this, I'm reminded how much I dislike Katz. After getting axed at ESPN, he's landed at the Big Ten Network, and is writing for NCAA.com.

In addition to bracketology, he puts out his own top-36 teams. Memphis, of course, is nowhere to be found. But he has Temple in at #33 this week. He's basically ignoring all metrics that have Temple outside the top 100 and Memphis well within the top 40. He's ignoring that they lost to Wagner, Richmond, Penn, and someone called Maryland-Eastern Shore.

He's totally ranking Temple because they beat Houston. Hey, if transitive property works...We beat Temple. Also Temple lost to Vandy & Old Miss - who we beat.

Temple wasn't even on his bracketology bubble's bubble, before yesterday's win. Now he has them #33.

What a bozo.

(01-23-2023 05:31 PM)Tiger87 Wrote:  Researching this, I'm reminded how much I dislike Katz. After getting axed at ESPN, he's landed at the Big Ten Network, and is writing for NCAA.com.

In addition to bracketology, he puts out his own top-36 teams. Memphis, of course, is nowhere to be found. But he has Temple in at #33 this week. He's basically ignoring all metrics that have Temple outside the top 100 and Memphis well within the top 40. He's ignoring that they lost to Wagner, Richmond, Penn, and someone called Maryland-Eastern Shore.

He's totally ranking Temple because they beat Houston. Hey, if transitive property works...We beat Temple. Also Temple lost to Vandy & Old Miss - who we beat.

Temple wasn't even on his bracketology bubble's bubble, before yesterday's win. Now he has them #33.

What a bozo.

You've never heard of the Maryland-Eastern Shore Hawks? Seriously. They're only the powerhouse of the MEAC. Currently tied for first in the Mid-Eastern Atlantic Conference with five other teams.

(01-23-2023 05:18 PM)Tiger87 Wrote:  Rankings update this week after Wichita and Cincy wins:
42 - AP (1 vote)
NR - Coaches (no votes)
37 - NET (up 9)
32 - KenPom (up 4)
27 - Torvik (no change)
36 - Sagarin (up 11)
39 - ESPN BPI (up 5)
18 - RPI (up 3)

Bracketology:
Palm CBS 8-seed

Katz and Lunardi (slackers) not updated after Cincy win:
Lunardi ESPN 11-seed (no change)
Katz 11-seed play-in

We're at 17 in the RPI.

You can use warrennolan.com to get on the fly updates to the RPI. (The net calculations are done once per day I believe.)

He does have a cool feature called "impact games." These show the games being played that day and how they will impact your rpi if a team wins or loses.

For instance, today we are rooting for Alabama St to win, which will increase our rpi score by about 10 points. Although this will not move us up in rpi, it will move us close to Texas in the 16 spot. There's only 89 points separating us from #12 Houston, and only 130 points away from the top 10 in rpi.



https://www.warrennolan.com/basketball/2...am=Memphis

(01-09-2023 11:37 AM)msu35 Wrote:  

(01-09-2023 11:29 AM)Tiger87 Wrote:  

(01-08-2023 05:37 PM)mempho_to_diego Wrote:  FYI - changed the title of the thread, so future convos on RPI RANKINGS can be had here, for the 2022-2023 season

Thanks. Though I've been using this to update all rankings - not just RPI.

Ignore the thread title. It will be okay.

Changed it to [Computer Rankings thread]

(01-23-2023 06:14 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  

(01-23-2023 05:18 PM)Tiger87 Wrote:  Rankings update this week after Wichita and Cincy wins:
42 - AP (1 vote)
NR - Coaches (no votes)
37 - NET (up 9)
32 - KenPom (up 4)
27 - Torvik (no change)
36 - Sagarin (up 11)
39 - ESPN BPI (up 5)
18 - RPI (up 3)

Bracketology:
Palm CBS 8-seed

Katz and Lunardi (slackers) not updated after Cincy win:
Lunardi ESPN 11-seed (no change)
Katz 11-seed play-in

We're at 17 in the RPI.

You can use warrennolan.com to get on the fly updates to the RPI. (The net calculations are done once per day I believe.)

He does have a cool feature called "impact games." These show the games being played that day and how they will impact your rpi if a team wins or loses.

For instance, today we are rooting for Alabama St to win, which will increase our rpi score by about 10 points. Although this will not move us up in rpi, it will move us close to Texas in the 16 spot. There's only 89 points separating us from #12 Houston, and only 130 points away from the top 10 in rpi.



https://www.warrennolan.com/basketball/2...am=Memphis

RPI is irrelevant

Speaking of the NET. I found an interesting site that shows our NET ranking, including all of the teams we've played, and whether they've gone up or down in the NET themselves. It's all data that's available elsewhere, but the way it's presented makes it very useful, being in a dashboard format.

Memphis - 2023 NET Rankings and Quad Wins

(01-23-2023 06:14 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  

(01-23-2023 05:18 PM)Tiger87 Wrote:  Rankings update this week after Wichita and Cincy wins:
42 - AP (1 vote)
NR - Coaches (no votes)
37 - NET (up 9)
32 - KenPom (up 4)
27 - Torvik (no change)
36 - Sagarin (up 11)
39 - ESPN BPI (up 5)
18 - RPI (up 3)

Bracketology:
Palm CBS 8-seed

Katz and Lunardi (slackers) not updated after Cincy win:
Lunardi ESPN 11-seed (no change)
Katz 11-seed play-in

We're at 17 in the RPI.

You can use warrennolan.com to get on the fly updates to the RPI. (The net calculations are done once per day I believe.)

He does have a cool feature called "impact games." These show the games being played that day and how they will impact your rpi if a team wins or loses.

For instance, today we are rooting for Alabama St to win, which will increase our rpi score by about 10 points. Although this will not move us up in rpi, it will move us close to Texas in the 16 spot. There's only 89 points separating us from #12 Houston, and only 130 points away from the top 10 in rpi.



https://www.warrennolan.com/basketball/2...am=Memphis

There are multiple RPI sites. I've been using realtimerpi. We were 18 there yesterday, but we have moved to 17 today.

(01-23-2023 11:35 PM)tiger1016 Wrote:  

(01-23-2023 06:14 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  

(01-23-2023 05:18 PM)Tiger87 Wrote:  Rankings update this week after Wichita and Cincy wins:
42 - AP (1 vote)
NR - Coaches (no votes)
37 - NET (up 9)
32 - KenPom (up 4)
27 - Torvik (no change)
36 - Sagarin (up 11)
39 - ESPN BPI (up 5)
18 - RPI (up 3)

Bracketology:
Palm CBS 8-seed

Katz and Lunardi (slackers) not updated after Cincy win:
Lunardi ESPN 11-seed (no change)
Katz 11-seed play-in

We're at 17 in the RPI.

You can use warrennolan.com to get on the fly updates to the RPI. (The net calculations are done once per day I believe.)

He does have a cool feature called "impact games." These show the games being played that day and how they will impact your rpi if a team wins or loses.

For instance, today we are rooting for Alabama St to win, which will increase our rpi score by about 10 points. Although this will not move us up in rpi, it will move us close to Texas in the 16 spot. There's only 89 points separating us from #12 Houston, and only 130 points away from the top 10 in rpi.



https://www.warrennolan.com/basketball/2...am=Memphis

RPI is irrelevant

Mostly yes. Replaced by NET. But I still think some use it for a SOS measurement, which it is probably decent as.

(01-23-2023 11:35 PM)tiger1016 Wrote:  

(01-23-2023 06:14 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  

(01-23-2023 05:18 PM)Tiger87 Wrote:  Rankings update this week after Wichita and Cincy wins:
42 - AP (1 vote)
NR - Coaches (no votes)
37 - NET (up 9)
32 - KenPom (up 4)
27 - Torvik (no change)
36 - Sagarin (up 11)
39 - ESPN BPI (up 5)
18 - RPI (up 3)

Bracketology:
Palm CBS 8-seed

Katz and Lunardi (slackers) not updated after Cincy win:
Lunardi ESPN 11-seed (no change)
Katz 11-seed play-in

We're at 17 in the RPI.

You can use warrennolan.com to get on the fly updates to the RPI. (The net calculations are done once per day I believe.)

He does have a cool feature called "impact games." These show the games being played that day and how they will impact your rpi if a team wins or loses.

For instance, today we are rooting for Alabama St to win, which will increase our rpi score by about 10 points. Although this will not move us up in rpi, it will move us close to Texas in the 16 spot. There's only 89 points separating us from #12 Houston, and only 130 points away from the top 10 in rpi.



https://www.warrennolan.com/basketball/2...am=Memphis

RPI is irrelevant

It for sure isn't irrelevant. For sure there are components of it woven into the NET.

(01-24-2023 12:07 PM)Stammers Wrote:  

(01-23-2023 11:35 PM)tiger1016 Wrote:  

(01-23-2023 06:14 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  

(01-23-2023 05:18 PM)Tiger87 Wrote:  Rankings update this week after Wichita and Cincy wins:
42 - AP (1 vote)
NR - Coaches (no votes)
37 - NET (up 9)
32 - KenPom (up 4)
27 - Torvik (no change)
36 - Sagarin (up 11)
39 - ESPN BPI (up 5)
18 - RPI (up 3)

Bracketology:
Palm CBS 8-seed

Katz and Lunardi (slackers) not updated after Cincy win:
Lunardi ESPN 11-seed (no change)
Katz 11-seed play-in

We're at 17 in the RPI.

You can use warrennolan.com to get on the fly updates to the RPI. (The net calculations are done once per day I believe.)

He does have a cool feature called "impact games." These show the games being played that day and how they will impact your rpi if a team wins or loses.

For instance, today we are rooting for Alabama St to win, which will increase our rpi score by about 10 points. Although this will not move us up in rpi, it will move us close to Texas in the 16 spot. There's only 89 points separating us from #12 Houston, and only 130 points away from the top 10 in rpi.



https://www.warrennolan.com/basketball/2...am=Memphis

RPI is irrelevant

It for sure isn't irrelevant. For sure there are components of it woven into the NET.

Hope you are right
Our RPI is going to be quite higher than the NET