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[Computer Rankings thread] - Tiger_Lurch - 11-21-2022 03:48 PM

Know it's very early in season but nice to see the tougher early schedule paying off. Tigers at #22 in RPI. Wonder how much weight RPI will continue to hold for NCAA tourney.
https://www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/rankings/rpi/

RE: Very early RPI rankings...Tigers at 22 - Tigerspartan - 11-21-2022 08:48 PM

27 in kenpom. Better to start at the top than the bottom

RE: Very early RPI rankings...Tigers at 22 - Tiger87 - 11-22-2022 10:33 AM

RPI has little - if any - relevance any more. They may use it as part of the seeding process.
The NCAA pushes the NET now as their benchmark - but they haven't put out their 1st ranking of the season yet.
NET - NA
KenPom - 27
Sagarin - 27
ESPN BPI - 42
Coaches poll - 36
AP - NR

BTW, Houston is #1 or 2 in all of these rankings.

RE: Very early RPI rankings...Tigers at 22 - steves - 11-22-2022 12:12 PM

(11-22-2022 10:33 AM)Tiger87 Wrote:  RPI has little - if any - relevance any more. They may use it as part of the seeding process.
The NCAA pushes the NET now as their benchmark - but they haven't put out their 1st ranking of the season yet.
NET - NA
KenPom - 27
Sagarin - 27
ESPN BPI - 42
Coaches poll - 36
AP - NR

BTW, Houston is #1 or 2 in all of these rankings.

Watch what happens after each of their next 10 games or so. They have crap for a schedule. Same with Tulane. Both are good teams. 07-coffee3

RE: Very early RPI rankings...Tigers at 22 - Eagleonpar - 11-22-2022 12:42 PM

(11-22-2022 12:12 PM)steves Wrote:  
(11-22-2022 10:33 AM)Tiger87 Wrote:  RPI has little - if any - relevance any more. They may use it as part of the seeding process.
The NCAA pushes the NET now as their benchmark - but they haven't put out their 1st ranking of the season yet.
NET - NA
KenPom - 27
Sagarin - 27
ESPN BPI - 42
Coaches poll - 36
AP - NR

BTW, Houston is #1 or 2 in all of these rankings.

Watch what happens after each of their next 10 games or so. They have crap for a schedule. Same with Tulane. Both are good teams. 07-coffee3

They stayed way up there last year and the year before. Don’t look for them to drop a whole bunch if they keep winning

RE: Very early RPI rankings...Tigers at 22 - Tiger87 - 11-25-2022 12:11 PM

29 Kenpom
29 Sagarin
39 ESPN BPI

Not much slippage after the loss last night. Actually moved up in ESPN.

RE: Very early RPI rankings...Tigers at 22 - Eagleonpar - 11-25-2022 12:46 PM

Better win the next two games

RE: Very early RPI rankings...Tigers at 22 - Tiger87 - 12-04-2022 12:43 PM

Easing on up

26 Kenpom
29 Sagarin
31 CBS NET
33 ESPN BPI
18 RPI

RE: Very early RPI rankings...Tigers at 22 - Tiger87 - 12-05-2022 07:04 PM

Updated since NCAA NET is finally out:

38 NCAA NET
25 KenPom
28 Sagarin
17 RPI
38 AP poll
42 Coaches poll
35 ESPN BPI

RE: Very early RPI rankings...Tigers at 22 - Keeper - 12-05-2022 08:17 PM

This next week the Tigers have some serious opportunities to get on the national radar.
GTG

RE: Very early RPI rankings...Tigers at 22 - thagr82008 - 12-05-2022 10:09 PM

(12-05-2022 08:17 PM)Keeper Wrote:  This next week the Tigers have some serious opportunities to get on the national radar.
GTG

I'm loving the potential rotations with Dandridge;Kao and Deandre C Law as he shows some promise as well, sprinkle in McCadden with his versatility/hustle/athleticism... Dandridge asserting himself, I believe is a testament to Faragi and F Haith...Especially with Faragi, this role is perfect for him and I think he is relishing in this role, I am grateful as It's very refreshing to see Malco D playing quality minutes, as well as Kao, they're becoming factors...04-bow

RE: Very early RPI rankings...Tigers at 22 - holyterror - 12-06-2022 04:51 AM

(12-05-2022 10:09 PM)thagr82008 Wrote:  
(12-05-2022 08:17 PM)Keeper Wrote:  This next week the Tigers have some serious opportunities to get on the national radar.
GTG

I'm loving the potential rotations with Dandridge;Kao and Deandre C Law as he shows some promise as well, sprinkle in McCadden with his versatility/hustle/athleticism... Dandridge asserting himself, I believe is a testament to Faragi and F Haith...Especially with Faragi, this role is perfect for him and I think he is relishing in this role, I am grateful as It's very refreshing to see Malco D playing quality minutes, as well as Kao, they're becoming factors...04-bow
I agree, especially with Dandridge. Twice against North Alabama, Malco got the ball at the free throw line. I just knew he was going to try to drive to the hole (unsuccessfully). But he didn’t. He passed the ball, set up on the block, and made a good move and scored. That’s improvement. Even the announcer noticed it.

RE: Very early RPI rankings...Tigers at 22 - SeñorTiger - 12-06-2022 08:14 AM

(12-06-2022 04:51 AM)holyterror Wrote:  
(12-05-2022 10:09 PM)thagr82008 Wrote:  
(12-05-2022 08:17 PM)Keeper Wrote:  This next week the Tigers have some serious opportunities to get on the national radar.
GTG

I'm loving the potential rotations with Dandridge;Kao and Deandre C Law as he shows some promise as well, sprinkle in McCadden with his versatility/hustle/athleticism... Dandridge asserting himself, I believe is a testament to Faragi and F Haith...Especially with Faragi, this role is perfect for him and I think he is relishing in this role, I am grateful as It's very refreshing to see Malco D playing quality minutes, as well as Kao, they're becoming factors...04-bow
I agree, especially with Dandridge. Twice against North Alabama, Malco got the ball at the free throw line. I just knew he was going to try to drive to the hole (unsuccessfully). But he didn’t. He passed the ball, set up on the block, and made a good move and scored. That’s improvement. Even the announcer noticed it.

He is a load when he is posted up on the block. His moves look clunky and unorthodox but he manages to make a lot of them.

RE: Very early RPI rankings...Tigers at 22 - Tiger87 - 12-06-2022 10:27 AM

According to KenPom, Tigers rank #326 out of #363 teams in "Luck".
This variable has always been a weird one to me.
I think he's basically using this as the "plug" bridging item between his algorithm and actual results.
Which basically says that our results are less favorable than he thinks they should be.
Probably that friggin shot by Seton Hall.

RE: Very early RPI rankings...Tigers at 22 - memphis mania - 12-06-2022 11:18 AM

(12-06-2022 10:27 AM)Tiger87 Wrote:  According to KenPom, Tigers rank #326 out of #363 teams in "Luck".
This variable has always been a weird one to me.
I think he's basically using this as the "plug" bridging item between his algorithm and actual results.
Which basically says that our results are less favorable than he thinks they should be.
Probably that friggin shot by Seton Hall.

Losing close games will rank you towards the bottom in the "luck" category whereas winning close games puts you at or near the top. We ranked #1 in luck in Tubby's last year (2018). We were a bad team but yet that team went 19 - 12 in the regular season. It's because we lucked out on many, many close games. That team could have easily had a sub .500 record in the regular season. Hence them being #1 in he "luck" category.

2018 Season - https://kenpom.com/team.php?team=Memphis&y=2018

RE: Very early RPI rankings...Tigers at 22 - Tiger87 - 12-12-2022 05:18 PM

Bump this one as it is a good history of our rankings this year.
Currently
26 - AP
30 - Coaches
38 - NET
26 - KenPom
27 - Sagarin
34 - ESPN BPI
19 - RPI

RE: Very early RPI rankings...Tigers at 22 - Tiger87 - 12-14-2022 05:47 PM

Update after Bama loss - largely unchanged:
38 - NET
26 - KenPom
26 - Sagarin
14 - Torvik
33 - ESPN BPI
19 - RPI

RE: Very early RPI rankings...Tigers at 22 - Eagleonpar - 12-14-2022 05:58 PM

(12-14-2022 05:47 PM)Tiger87 Wrote:  Update after Bama loss - largely unchanged:
38 - NET
26 - KenPom
26 - Sagarin
14 - Torvik
33 - ESPN BPI
19 - RPI

Interesting that the worst ranking we have is by the one the committee goes by. Plays into my paranoia

RE: Very early RPI rankings...Tigers at 22 - Keeper - 12-14-2022 11:06 PM

(12-14-2022 05:58 PM)Eagleonpar Wrote:  
(12-14-2022 05:47 PM)Tiger87 Wrote:  Update after Bama loss - largely unchanged:
38 - NET
26 - KenPom
26 - Sagarin
14 - Torvik
33 - ESPN BPI
19 - RPI

Interesting that the worst ranking we have is by the one the committee goes by. Plays into my paranoia

Need the TAM win.

RE: Very early RPI rankings...Tigers at 22 - Tigerspartan - 12-15-2022 10:15 AM

UCF got a nice net bump after beating ole miss. They are sitting at 60, will be a quad one game at their place next month if they don’t take any bad losses