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(12-05-2022 01:39 PM)bearcatmark Wrote:  

(12-05-2022 01:36 PM)Bear Catlett Wrote:  

(12-05-2022 01:33 PM)Cataclysmo Wrote:  

(12-05-2022 01:22 PM)Former Lurker Wrote:  Supposedly, Satterfield spoke to his Louisville players by Zoom. If true, that’s pretty low class.

It's concerning that he seems to be leaving in a bad manner.

Well look at all the love and warmth for Fickell around here.

Is there a good way to leave?

Yea. If there is one thing I've learned to ignore more than anything else is, it is how coaches leave. We've never had a coach leave and fans say "wow that guy handled it so well.'

There's degrees of badness, but yeah it's pretty much impossible to leave of your own volition and not have hurt/angry feelings among the fanbase in particular.

(12-05-2022 03:46 PM)Cataclysmo Wrote:  I liked that hire a lot when they first made it. Satterfield was a hot name coming out of App State.

Maybe we should all refer to him as the coach from Appalachian State and forget his short time at Louisville. For some reason that sounds better.
Appalachian state has been great at pulling upsets.

(12-05-2022 03:07 PM)levydl Wrote:  My point was that deciding whether this was a good hire by waiting to see if it turns out well is silly. I appreciate your laying out the pros and cons, I was just saying that if those are the cons then it seems fine to judge this a good hire no matter what happens.

Haha I hear what you're getting at but the reality is that a hire is determined to be good or bad based on how well they do at that job. Tuberville was a terrible hire because of how he tanked the program, Fickell was an incredible hire because of how he drove the program to new heights.

I guess if you rephrase the list to "pros and cons of his resume", that would probably be more apt to the scenario of determining him a viable candidate to hire. And, like you mentioned, the pros outweigh the cons.

(12-05-2022 02:25 PM)Bear Catlett Wrote:  

(12-05-2022 02:13 PM)UCGrad1992 Wrote:  A collection of tweets from some of the Louisville players...

https://www.cardchronicle.com/2022/12/5/...cincinnati

Eager to see who Louisville hires.

Brohm aint going back there and there's not much else out there.

Here's one take from the local paper:

Jeff Brohm to Louisville football? 5 possible candidates to replace Scott Satterfield


Looks a lot like Brohm or bust (I don't see why they think Leipold would make the move, but at this point I guess ya never know)

(12-05-2022 04:23 PM)Bearhawkeye Wrote:  

(12-05-2022 02:25 PM)Bear Catlett Wrote:  

(12-05-2022 02:13 PM)UCGrad1992 Wrote:  A collection of tweets from some of the Louisville players...

https://www.cardchronicle.com/2022/12/5/...cincinnati

Eager to see who Louisville hires.

Brohm aint going back there and there's not much else out there.

Here's one take from the local paper:

Jeff Brohm to Louisville football? 5 possible candidates to replace Scott Satterfield


Looks a lot like Brohm or bust (I don't see why they think Leipold would make the move, but at this point I guess ya never know)

It's going to cost Louisville A LOT more than $3.5 Million/year to pry Brohm out of West Lafayette... If they want him, they're going to have to ante up.

Personally, I kind of hope Brohm comes home to Louisville.

(12-05-2022 03:30 PM)natibeast2.0 Wrote:  Got a chance to listen. He seems to know what is needed to win at P5 level and wants to implement all that ASAP.

He has my full support (he never had this at Louisville from day 1 which is ridiculous) and we will know whether he's the guy or not likely by or in year 3 at the latest. Impressed with the hire as we transition to Big 12 after some of the other names we were hearing.

My primary concern is his recruiting chops in Ohio/Cincy and really hope we can retain Kerry Coombs for that reason.

That's it from me. Go Bearcats!

The bolded part isn't really true. We were all excited about the hire, sure we wanted Brohm, but Satt had a lot of support coming off his success at App. It wasn't until after his first season where he had some success with Petrino's players, then he interviewed for the South Carolina job, that he lost a lot of fans. Then he had two mediocre seasons and subpar recruiting that he got on the hot seat.

This season didn't start off well either, and he was likely going to get fired, until recruiting picked up and he went on a run late in the season, that he saved his job. However, 25-24 in a down ACC, and never coming close to beating UK, didn't really garner a raise and extension, so our AD said next season is a show-me year. Instead, he got the offer from Cincy and decided to do a restart.

Most Louisville fans aren't upset all with this move. Satt's a good guy, but he just wasn't getting it done like he did at App. Maybe he will at UC, for guys I hope he does.

Best of luck!

(12-06-2022 10:46 AM)TopperCard Wrote:  

(12-05-2022 03:30 PM)natibeast2.0 Wrote:  Got a chance to listen. He seems to know what is needed to win at P5 level and wants to implement all that ASAP.

He has my full support (he never had this at Louisville from day 1 which is ridiculous) and we will know whether he's the guy or not likely by or in year 3 at the latest. Impressed with the hire as we transition to Big 12 after some of the other names we were hearing.

My primary concern is his recruiting chops in Ohio/Cincy and really hope we can retain Kerry Coombs for that reason.

That's it from me. Go Bearcats!

The bolded part isn't really true. We were all excited about the hire, sure we wanted Brohm, but Satt had a lot of support coming off his success at App. It wasn't until after his first season where he had some success with Petrino's players, then he interviewed for the South Carolina job, that he lost a lot of fans. Then he had two mediocre seasons and subpar recruiting that he got on the hot seat.

This season didn't start off well either, and he was likely going to get fired, until recruiting picked up and he went on a run late in the season, that he saved his job. However, 25-24 in a down ACC, and never coming close to beating UK, didn't really garner a raise and extension, so our AD said next season is a show-me year. Instead, he got the offer from Cincy and decided to do a restart.

Most Louisville fans aren't upset all with this move. Satt's a good guy, but he just wasn't getting it done like he did at App. Maybe he will at UC, for guys I hope he does.

Best of luck!

UL had been doing pretty well this season until their QB went down in the game against Boston College. Their season went downhill from there.

Just watched Chad's one on one with CSS. I didn't realize that CSS finished a very close 2nd when they hired Luke. Sounded like they had the plane gassed up and ready to go pick up CSS if they couldn't come to terms with Luke.

(12-06-2022 11:46 AM)Cat-Man Wrote:  Just watched Chad's one on one with CSS. I didn't realize that CSS finished a very close 2nd when they hired Luke. Sounded like they had the plane gassed up and ready to go pick up CSS if they couldn't come to terms with Luke.

Yeah it makes alot more sense in light of his previous interview here. He was successful at Appalachian State so maybe Cincinnati will be the vehicle for his continued success.

Things must have been bad in Louisville for him to consider to leave for South Carolina fairly early on.

(12-05-2022 04:31 PM)BearcatJerry Wrote:  

(12-05-2022 04:23 PM)Bearhawkeye Wrote:  

(12-05-2022 02:25 PM)Bear Catlett Wrote:  

(12-05-2022 02:13 PM)UCGrad1992 Wrote:  A collection of tweets from some of the Louisville players...

https://www.cardchronicle.com/2022/12/5/...cincinnati

Eager to see who Louisville hires.

Brohm aint going back there and there's not much else out there.

Here's one take from the local paper:

Jeff Brohm to Louisville football? 5 possible candidates to replace Scott Satterfield


Looks a lot like Brohm or bust (I don't see why they think Leipold would make the move, but at this point I guess ya never know)

It's going to cost Louisville A LOT more than $3.5 Million/year to pry Brohm out of West Lafayette... If they want him, they're going to have to ante up.

Personally, I kind of hope Brohm comes home to Louisville.

Yeah, Brohm is making $5.1M this year, and I'm guessing they're writing up another new contract with making the B1GCG this season. That doesn't include the annual scaler and longevity bonuses which raise his salary to $7.1M by 2025.

(12-06-2022 11:59 AM)BearcatDave Wrote:  

(12-06-2022 11:46 AM)Cat-Man Wrote:  Just watched Chad's one on one with CSS. I didn't realize that CSS finished a very close 2nd when they hired Luke. Sounded like they had the plane gassed up and ready to go pick up CSS if they couldn't come to terms with Luke.

Yeah it makes alot more sense in light of his previous interview here. He was successful at Appalachian State so maybe Cincinnati will be the vehicle for his continued success.

Things must have been bad in Louisville for him to consider to leave for South Carolina fairly early on.

Louisville is a mess of an AD and has been since they started getting investigated. They've had multiple settlements, are paying multiple coaching buyouts, and have two debt service albatrosses on their books right now as well.

(12-06-2022 11:59 AM)BearcatDave Wrote:  

(12-06-2022 11:46 AM)Cat-Man Wrote:  Just watched Chad's one on one with CSS. I didn't realize that CSS finished a very close 2nd when they hired Luke. Sounded like they had the plane gassed up and ready to go pick up CSS if they couldn't come to terms with Luke.

Yeah it makes alot more sense in light of his previous interview here. He was successful at Appalachian State so maybe Cincinnati will be the vehicle for his continued success.

Things must have been bad in Louisville for him to consider to leave for South Carolina fairly early on.

Bolded, that's what Cunningham is betting on in my estimation. He could very well be right. If CSS can assume the Fickell mantle of nabbing "hometown heroes" while attracting other quality OH recruits he could build a contender. The downside risk is that his recruiting focus has been primarily in the south at his previous two schools and he's going to need a posse of assistants who know the midwest to get back in kids' living rooms in Ashtabula or Xenia.

(12-06-2022 01:45 PM)OKIcat Wrote:  

(12-06-2022 11:59 AM)BearcatDave Wrote:  

(12-06-2022 11:46 AM)Cat-Man Wrote:  Just watched Chad's one on one with CSS. I didn't realize that CSS finished a very close 2nd when they hired Luke. Sounded like they had the plane gassed up and ready to go pick up CSS if they couldn't come to terms with Luke.

Yeah it makes alot more sense in light of his previous interview here. He was successful at Appalachian State so maybe Cincinnati will be the vehicle for his continued success.

Things must have been bad in Louisville for him to consider to leave for South Carolina fairly early on.

Bolded, that's what Cunningham is betting on in my estimation. He could very well be right. If CSS can assume the Fickell mantle of nabbing "hometown heroes" while attracting other quality OH recruits he could build a contender. The downside risk is that his recruiting focus has been primarily in the south at his previous two schools and he's going to need a posse of assistants who know the midwest to get back in kids' living rooms in Ashtabula or Xenia.

I think it’s going to take a couple of years of working the portal with NIL money and the prospect of B12 playing time to keep our head above water. What I saw this year was a team that was not B12 ready. Some fine players for sure, but lacking in depth in the trenches to play that kind of schedule.

(12-06-2022 01:45 PM)OKIcat Wrote:  

(12-06-2022 11:59 AM)BearcatDave Wrote:  

(12-06-2022 11:46 AM)Cat-Man Wrote:  Just watched Chad's one on one with CSS. I didn't realize that CSS finished a very close 2nd when they hired Luke. Sounded like they had the plane gassed up and ready to go pick up CSS if they couldn't come to terms with Luke.

Yeah it makes alot more sense in light of his previous interview here. He was successful at Appalachian State so maybe Cincinnati will be the vehicle for his continued success.

Things must have been bad in Louisville for him to consider to leave for South Carolina fairly early on.

Bolded, that's what Cunningham is betting on in my estimation. He could very well be right. If CSS can assume the Fickell mantle of nabbing "hometown heroes" while attracting other quality OH recruits he could build a contender. The downside risk is that his recruiting focus has been primarily in the south at his previous two schools and he's going to need a posse of assistants who know the midwest to get back in kids' living rooms in Ashtabula or Xenia.

Did he mention the importance of recruiting all of Ohio and even nearby state? Does he get it?

(12-07-2022 08:51 AM)ZCat Wrote:  

(12-06-2022 01:45 PM)OKIcat Wrote:  

(12-06-2022 11:59 AM)BearcatDave Wrote:  

(12-06-2022 11:46 AM)Cat-Man Wrote:  Just watched Chad's one on one with CSS. I didn't realize that CSS finished a very close 2nd when they hired Luke. Sounded like they had the plane gassed up and ready to go pick up CSS if they couldn't come to terms with Luke.

Yeah it makes alot more sense in light of his previous interview here. He was successful at Appalachian State so maybe Cincinnati will be the vehicle for his continued success.

Things must have been bad in Louisville for him to consider to leave for South Carolina fairly early on.

Bolded, that's what Cunningham is betting on in my estimation. He could very well be right. If CSS can assume the Fickell mantle of nabbing "hometown heroes" while attracting other quality OH recruits he could build a contender. The downside risk is that his recruiting focus has been primarily in the south at his previous two schools and he's going to need a posse of assistants who know the midwest to get back in kids' living rooms in Ashtabula or Xenia.

Did he mention the importance of recruiting all of Ohio and even nearby state? Does he get it?

From the enquirer article: "Cincinnati high school football is unbelievable," he said. "And so is the state of Ohio. It's one of the best states in the whole country. So we've got to stake down this area right here. We've got to comb these high schools. I've got to hire people in this staff that will be able to go out and already have those relationships. That's going to be a top priority for us."

(12-07-2022 08:51 AM)ZCat Wrote:  

(12-06-2022 01:45 PM)OKIcat Wrote:  

(12-06-2022 11:59 AM)BearcatDave Wrote:  

(12-06-2022 11:46 AM)Cat-Man Wrote:  Just watched Chad's one on one with CSS. I didn't realize that CSS finished a very close 2nd when they hired Luke. Sounded like they had the plane gassed up and ready to go pick up CSS if they couldn't come to terms with Luke.

Yeah it makes alot more sense in light of his previous interview here. He was successful at Appalachian State so maybe Cincinnati will be the vehicle for his continued success.

Things must have been bad in Louisville for him to consider to leave for South Carolina fairly early on.

Bolded, that's what Cunningham is betting on in my estimation. He could very well be right. If CSS can assume the Fickell mantle of nabbing "hometown heroes" while attracting other quality OH recruits he could build a contender. The downside risk is that his recruiting focus has been primarily in the south at his previous two schools and he's going to need a posse of assistants who know the midwest to get back in kids' living rooms in Ashtabula or Xenia.

Did he mention the importance of recruiting all of Ohio and even nearby state? Does he get it?

Yes

I'm still not sure what I think about the hire both pro and con but I am excited for new blood on the staff. We had a lot of battlefield promotions the last couple years and it was starting to show.

I think Kerry will stick around for a local recruiting presence since he's the furniture that stays with the house for the new owners. Excited to upgrade several position coaches, though.

Moving to 4 down linemen on D is going to require some portal wizarding.

(12-07-2022 09:22 AM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  I'm still not sure what I think about the hire both pro and con but I am excited for new blood on the staff. We had a lot of battlefield promotions the last couple years and it was starting to show.

I think Kerry will stick around for a local recruiting presence since he's the furniture that stays with the house for the new owners. Excited to upgrade several position coaches, though.

Moving to 4 down linemen on D is going to require some portal wizarding.

Assuming the Godfather and Briggs stick around I think they'll have a damn good starting defensive line, but they'll need to really find some depth in the portal...particularly at tackle.

(12-07-2022 09:22 AM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  I'm still not sure what I think about the hire both pro and con but I am excited for new blood on the staff. We had a lot of battlefield promotions the last couple years and it was starting to show.

I think Kerry will stick around for a local recruiting presence since he's the furniture that stays with the house for the new owners. Excited to upgrade several position coaches, though.

Moving to 4 down linemen on D is going to require some portal wizarding.

Same. Not sure what to think but I am ready to see some changes in the offensive philosophy also. I may not like those changes later but the playcalling was exasperating at times this year.

(12-07-2022 09:26 AM)Cat_Litter Wrote:  

(12-07-2022 09:22 AM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  I'm still not sure what I think about the hire both pro and con but I am excited for new blood on the staff. We had a lot of battlefield promotions the last couple years and it was starting to show.

I think Kerry will stick around for a local recruiting presence since he's the furniture that stays with the house for the new owners. Excited to upgrade several position coaches, though.

Moving to 4 down linemen on D is going to require some portal wizarding.

Same. Not sure what to think but I am ready to see some changes in the offensive philosophy also. I may not like those changes later but the playcalling was exasperating at times this year.

Bolded, my feeling as well, with no disrespect to Gino as I really don't know who was ultimately responsible for what we saw. I do feel though that the offense was capable of much more but the team was too reliant on defense to save the day each week. That almost worked for the season, save late scores by UCF and Tulane to knock UC out of the CCG.