(06-27-2022 08:50 AM)Redwingtom Wrote: I want a country where women don't have to follow the religious beliefs of members of government or SCOTUS and are allowed to freely make their own choices of what to do with the fetus inside of them.
Would you settle for a country where we acknowledge this is a very divisive issue and, depending upon where you are at, you may be in the minority, thus we should allow it to be settled at a more local level?
Of course, but so what? I don't give two **** what the majority or minority believes. However, pretty sure most all polling on this issue says the majority of the country is fine with women deciding whether they want to have an abortion or not, and are also not in favor with this decision by SCOTUS.
If the majority of the country feels that way, than all states should have no problem in adjusting their law, no?
I don't feel that medical and health care decisions should be limited to a map boundary.
Where exactly does killing babies fall on the health care spectrum?
(06-27-2022 09:44 AM)solohawks Wrote: Would you settle for a country where we acknowledge this is a very divisive issue and, depending upon where you are at, you may be in the minority, thus we should allow it to be settled at a more local level?
Of course, but so what? I don't give two **** what the majority or minority believes. However, pretty sure most all polling on this issue says the majority of the country is fine with women deciding whether they want to have an abortion or not, and are also not in favor with this decision by SCOTUS.
If the majority of the country feels that way, than all states should have no problem in adjusting their law, no?
I don't feel that medical and health care decisions should be limited to a map boundary.
Where exactly does killing babies fall on the health care spectrum?
You don't understand why the Death Cult.......um........Democrat Party likes killing babies?
Not sure how much you can believe this poll, but looks like the generic congressional ballot has the Dems +7 over GOP - a net 10 point swing in the Dems favor.
Question is whether this is real or a spur of the moment knee jerk reaction coupled with oversampling Dems? Do we really have that many single issue voters who vote for gross incompetence resulting in high inflation and damaged economy while trying to implement the Green New Deal that arguably won't be achievable for years down the road?
(06-27-2022 12:06 PM)miko33 Wrote: Not sure how much you can believe this poll, but looks like the generic congressional ballot has the Dems +7 over GOP - a net 10 point swing in the Dems favor.
Question is whether this is real or a spur of the moment knee jerk reaction coupled with oversampling Dems? Do we really have that many single issue voters who vote for gross incompetence resulting in high inflation and damaged economy while trying to implement the Green New Deal that arguably won't be achievable for years down the road?
From the article, NPR's poll showed an 8 point swing to dems PRIOR to the Roe V Wade decision.
Also during that time republicans got a young women from Mexico elected to congress in a Biden+18 district. That tells me more than an NPR poll.
Granted, I know what they are doing. They are so desperate at this point that they are trying to show a fake momentum shift to get people excited and try to cause an actual momentum shift. The problem is that the people they need are busy paying $5 per gallon for gas while they scour the city for baby formula.
(06-27-2022 12:06 PM)miko33 Wrote: Not sure how much you can believe this poll, but looks like the generic congressional ballot has the Dems +7 over GOP - a net 10 point swing in the Dems favor.
Question is whether this is real or a spur of the moment knee jerk reaction coupled with oversampling Dems? Do we really have that many single issue voters who vote for gross incompetence resulting in high inflation and damaged economy while trying to implement the Green New Deal that arguably won't be achievable for years down the road?
I don’t. I think the cake is baked for the mid terms. However, polling shows outright banning abortion is defund the police level toxic and while the Dems can absolutely trash anyone who pushes Defund the Police the GOP can not push back against what is probably the most organized and most dedicated group of their coalition. I don’t think anything overcomes inflation and everything else this election, but this board is not representative in any way of the popularity of banning abortion and criminalizing those who cross state lines.
(06-27-2022 10:49 AM)b2b Wrote: Imagine being so lost that you think politics and religion can be separated.
Imagine being so unaware of history that you fail to recognize that the separation of politics & religion is one of the founding ideals of this country. The right loves to talk about originalism and the Founders' intent when it suits them, but conveniently forgets this piece. When politics & religion are mixed, both suffer.
FALSE.
Yes, there was a SCOTUS ruling on this in the 20th century 200 years after Christianity being prevalent in state and federal government, but as we saw with slavery and killing babies, SCOTUS rulings can be wrong and eventually corrected.
If you didn't read the evidence I presented in a different thread, then you might want to check it out.
No, now that I think about it, you did participate in that thread. In fact, I asked you to pull up the text of the constitution, do a Ctrl-f and search for the word "separation" or phrase "separation of church".
Have you done that yet? If so, are you simply spewing lies?
If you haven't searched yet, please do so. And I'll assume with this post that you haven't educated yourself on the issue as of yet.
(06-27-2022 12:06 PM)miko33 Wrote: Not sure how much you can believe this poll, but looks like the generic congressional ballot has the Dems +7 over GOP - a net 10 point swing in the Dems favor.
Question is whether this is real or a spur of the moment knee jerk reaction coupled with oversampling Dems? Do we really have that many single issue voters who vote for gross incompetence resulting in high inflation and damaged economy while trying to implement the Green New Deal that arguably won't be achievable for years down the road?
(06-27-2022 12:06 PM)miko33 Wrote: Not sure how much you can believe this poll, but looks like the generic congressional ballot has the Dems +7 over GOP - a net 10 point swing in the Dems favor.
Question is whether this is real or a spur of the moment knee jerk reaction coupled with oversampling Dems? Do we really have that many single issue voters who vote for gross incompetence resulting in high inflation and damaged economy while trying to implement the Green New Deal that arguably won't be achievable for years down the road?
From the article, NPR's poll showed an 8 point swing to dems PRIOR to the Roe V Wade decision.
Also during that time republicans got a young women from Mexico elected to congress in a Biden+18 district. That tells me more than an NPR poll.
Granted, I know what they are doing. They are so desperate at this point that they are trying to show a fake momentum shift to get people excited and try to cause an actual momentum shift. The problem is that the people they need are busy paying $5 per gallon for gas while they scour the city for baby formula.
Polls are also useful in skewing expectations which then are pointed to in order to argue against election fraud. Dem fraud is carefully crafted with false narratives in place to cover actual events, like Abrams driving record voter registration to cover a historically and extremely abnormal turnout. The cook a lie souffle' every time now that media is a propaganda wing.
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(06-27-2022 12:06 PM)miko33 Wrote: Not sure how much you can believe this poll, but looks like the generic congressional ballot has the Dems +7 over GOP - a net 10 point swing in the Dems favor.
Question is whether this is real or a spur of the moment knee jerk reaction coupled with oversampling Dems? Do we really have that many single issue voters who vote for gross incompetence resulting in high inflation and damaged economy while trying to implement the Green New Deal that arguably won't be achievable for years down the road?
I don’t. I think the cake is baked for the mid terms. However, polling shows outright banning abortion is defund the police level toxic and while the Dems can absolutely trash anyone who pushes Defund the Police the GOP can not push back against what is probably the most organized and most dedicated group of their coalition. I don’t think anything overcomes inflation and everything else this election, but this board is not representative in any way of the popularity of banning abortion and criminalizing those who cross state lines.
I think economics will be the litmus test for the midterms per your point. I think it's highly doubtful that single issue voters will turn the tide given the volume of pressure from a variety of points elsewhere.
If we experience power shortages due to gov't policies come July and August then abortion is yesterday's news.
(06-25-2022 02:42 PM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote: Half the problem solved in one stroke, I like it.
Prog filth neutered and spayed while turning in their firearms.
Its the only reasonable answer for them
Yes sir, they aren't equipped for real struggles so they should give up before they get hurt. Remove their ability to be "birthing persons" and they have no reason to worry about RvW. Besides, what self respecting man wants to have his urethra expanded to 100 times it's normal size to pass a baby??
Wanna good laugh
Bring it.
By all means, come to my rural community from somewhere out of state where nobody knows you and nobody you know knows where you are exactly. Nothing bad will happen to you, we're just like the understanding liberal shitholes you've burned down in the past...
Last time the law came looking for someone on my farm (1930s) they had been told he was buried in the hog pen. My great uncle (the suspect) handed the officers shovels and told them to start digging as he went to get a cart. Told them the pen needed mucking out anyways. 2 hours and one cart load later they stopped digging at 3 feet deep. He was later officially charged, but without a body the case was dismissed. He never would say what happened, even as an old man, just that strangers didn't need to be making trouble when they didn't know who they were making trouble with.
(06-27-2022 12:06 PM)miko33 Wrote: Not sure how much you can believe this poll, but looks like the generic congressional ballot has the Dems +7 over GOP - a net 10 point swing in the Dems favor.
Question is whether this is real or a spur of the moment knee jerk reaction coupled with oversampling Dems? Do we really have that many single issue voters who vote for gross incompetence resulting in high inflation and damaged economy while trying to implement the Green New Deal that arguably won't be achievable for years down the road?
I don’t. I think the cake is baked for the mid terms. However, polling shows outright banning abortion is defund the police level toxic and while the Dems can absolutely trash anyone who pushes Defund the Police the GOP can not push back against what is probably the most organized and most dedicated group of their coalition. I don’t think anything overcomes inflation and everything else this election, but this board is not representative in any way of the popularity of banning abortion and criminalizing those who cross state lines.
I think economics will be the litmus test for the midterms per your point. I think it's highly doubtful that single issue voters will turn the tide given the volume of pressure from a variety of points elsewhere.
If we experience power shortages due to gov't policies come July and August then abortion is yesterday's news.
Just wait till food is short this fall and gas is above $7 /gallon. EVERYBODY will be a single issue voter, but the issue sure as hell won't be abortion.
(06-26-2022 06:34 PM)JRsec Wrote: No it isn't. The unborn are innocent. They will sin, but haven't. Murderers and rapists have judged themselves by action. There are 3 words in Hebrew which mean to kill. One is in defense of family, self, or nation. One is in execution. The third is in murder and manslaughter. The 10 commandments "Thou shalt not kill" only used the third word. Thou shalt not murder, or through willful negligence cause the death of another. Defense and execution were not in the prohibition. Stopping murderers is preserving life. Stopping rapists is preserving the sanctity of life. In order to uphold life we must first be willing to defend it. Capital punishment is not the opposite of sanctity of life, it is the upholding of it!
Exscellent explanation, JRSEC. There certainly is a difference and in the old days people knew it.
Sorry that just comes across as “knowing God’s plan” when it suits you. What is the plan for protecting and preserving life in the classroom?
The root cause for the overwhelming majority of abortions and the overwhelming majority of these school shootings is.....?????
See if you can finish the sentence. Ive put it up on the tee, go ahead it should not be hard to finish.
....and go.
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(06-27-2022 10:35 AM)Redwingtom Wrote: Of course, but so what? I don't give two **** what the majority or minority believes. However, pretty sure most all polling on this issue says the majority of the country is fine with women deciding whether they want to have an abortion or not, and are also not in favor with this decision by SCOTUS.
If the majority of the country feels that way, than all states should have no problem in adjusting their law, no?
I don't feel that medical and health care decisions should be limited to a map boundary.
Where exactly does killing babies fall on the health care spectrum?
You don't understand why the Death Cult.......um........Democrat Party likes killing babies?
Exactly! They want to kill all the little brown and black fetuses because they rarely vote democratic when they are born and reach voting age.
(06-27-2022 12:06 PM)miko33 Wrote: Not sure how much you can believe this poll, but looks like the generic congressional ballot has the Dems +7 over GOP - a net 10 point swing in the Dems favor.
Question is whether this is real or a spur of the moment knee jerk reaction coupled with oversampling Dems? Do we really have that many single issue voters who vote for gross incompetence resulting in high inflation and damaged economy while trying to implement the Green New Deal that arguably won't be achievable for years down the road?
I don’t. I think the cake is baked for the mid terms. However, polling shows outright banning abortion is defund the police level toxic and while the Dems can absolutely trash anyone who pushes Defund the Police the GOP can not push back against what is probably the most organized and most dedicated group of their coalition. I don’t think anything overcomes inflation and everything else this election, but this board is not representative in any way of the popularity of banning abortion and criminalizing those who cross state lines.
I think economics will be the litmus test for the midterms per your point. I think it's highly doubtful that single issue voters will turn the tide given the volume of pressure from a variety of points elsewhere.
If we experience power shortages due to gov't policies come July and August then abortion is yesterday's news.
Just wait till food is short this fall and gas is above $7 /gallon. EVERYBODY will be a single issue voter, but the issue sure as hell won't be abortion.
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It will be interesting if the food shortages will play out in the U.S. The stats are from a few years ago, but I think the U.S. wastes about 40% of the food grown and processed for domestic use. In theory, we don't HAVE to experience shortages if we become smart with our food usage.
(06-27-2022 12:06 PM)miko33 Wrote: Not sure how much you can believe this poll, but looks like the generic congressional ballot has the Dems +7 over GOP - a net 10 point swing in the Dems favor.
Question is whether this is real or a spur of the moment knee jerk reaction coupled with oversampling Dems? Do we really have that many single issue voters who vote for gross incompetence resulting in high inflation and damaged economy while trying to implement the Green New Deal that arguably won't be achievable for years down the road?
I don’t. I think the cake is baked for the mid terms. However, polling shows outright banning abortion is defund the police level toxic and while the Dems can absolutely trash anyone who pushes Defund the Police the GOP can not push back against what is probably the most organized and most dedicated group of their coalition. I don’t think anything overcomes inflation and everything else this election, but this board is not representative in any way of the popularity of banning abortion and criminalizing those who cross state lines.
I think economics will be the litmus test for the midterms per your point. I think it's highly doubtful that single issue voters will turn the tide given the volume of pressure from a variety of points elsewhere.
If we experience power shortages due to gov't policies come July and August then abortion is yesterday's news.
Just wait till food is short this fall and gas is above $7 /gallon. EVERYBODY will be a single issue voter, but the issue sure as hell won't be abortion.
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It will be interesting if the food shortages will play out in the U.S. The stats are from a few years ago, but I think the U.S. wastes about 40% of the food grown and processed for domestic use. In theory, we don't HAVE to experience shortages if we become smart with our food usage.
Keyword is smart. We're a wasteful nation unfortunately for us. I'm including myself in there. How many people spend $200 on groceries then stop and grab lunch/dinner on the way home, then end up tossing food that is expired?
(06-27-2022 12:20 PM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote: I don’t. I think the cake is baked for the mid terms. However, polling shows outright banning abortion is defund the police level toxic and while the Dems can absolutely trash anyone who pushes Defund the Police the GOP can not push back against what is probably the most organized and most dedicated group of their coalition. I don’t think anything overcomes inflation and everything else this election, but this board is not representative in any way of the popularity of banning abortion and criminalizing those who cross state lines.
I think economics will be the litmus test for the midterms per your point. I think it's highly doubtful that single issue voters will turn the tide given the volume of pressure from a variety of points elsewhere.
If we experience power shortages due to gov't policies come July and August then abortion is yesterday's news.
Just wait till food is short this fall and gas is above $7 /gallon. EVERYBODY will be a single issue voter, but the issue sure as hell won't be abortion.
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It will be interesting if the food shortages will play out in the U.S. The stats are from a few years ago, but I think the U.S. wastes about 40% of the food grown and processed for domestic use. In theory, we don't HAVE to experience shortages if we become smart with our food usage.
Keyword is smart. We're a wasteful nation unfortunately for us. I'm including myself in there. How many people spend $200 on groceries then stop and grab lunch/dinner on the way home, then end up tossing food that is expired?
I'm guilty of that too. We've been getting better at not wasting, but unfortunately for us we have ideas for a variety of meals but will run out of time before some of it expires.
(06-27-2022 10:47 AM)solohawks Wrote: If the majority of the country feels that way, than all states should have no problem in adjusting their law, no?
I don't feel that medical and health care decisions should be limited to a map boundary.
Where exactly does killing babies fall on the health care spectrum?
You don't understand why the Death Cult.......um........Democrat Party likes killing babies?
Exactly! They want to kill all the little brown and black fetuses because they rarely vote democratic when they are born and reach voting age.
Deflection attempt failed. They are all babies regardless of what color they are. Where does killing them land on the health care spectrum?
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