Really good stuff Bricks! You seem like you’re all over it my man. Looking forward to actually watching it but it sounds like you already made it a moot point. Love it when guys that know the game well give a breakdown.

I will say that we have a number of guys here that see the game inside the game so you better come correct here or you will get called out-myself included at times if I’m not on point . Good job.

Hard-fought road win is worth celebrating. Congrats, Seahawks. But, with a 3-point lead and High Point possession in the final 20 seconds of regulation, why didn't UNCW foul intentionally? That would've forced High Point to have to make SEVERAL things happen in order to just tie it - make the first free throw, miss the second, get the rebound, score a bucket. The only way High Point could have tied was to sink a 3. Everyone in the building knew John-Michael Wright was gonna shoot. He did. It went in. Tie game. Ugh. You can't sink a 3 from the foul line. UNCW should have fouled, High Point was awful at the line (10-for-23). I know, hindsight is 20-20. Still, a lot of defensive energy and intensity were good signs. Winning = always good.

(12-18-2021 11:12 PM)bricksnivy Wrote:  2a. Siddle's mistake is not who's starting at PG; his mistake is not having a coherent offense. I know that sounds like I'm disagreeing with you, but I'm not. I'm saying the issue is worse than a personnel decision. Phillips is better suited to cover his *** than Sims, but it's bad offense either way.

^^This^^

Ending the Sims as point guard experiment is a necessary, but not sufficient, prerequisite to sustainable success.

Sims' coast to coast buzzer beater yesterday was reminiscent of T J Carter's similar feat a number of years ago at mason. Except at mason we were one point down. Nevertheless yesterday's play was nice!

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(12-19-2021 08:05 AM)Seahawk Lefty Wrote:  Hard-fought road win is worth celebrating. Congrats, Seahawks. But, with a 3-point lead and High Point possession in the final 20 seconds of regulation, why didn't UNCW foul intentionally? That would've forced High Point to have to make SEVERAL things happen in order to just tie it - make the first free throw, miss the second, get the rebound, score a bucket. The only way High Point could have tied was to sink a 3. Everyone in the building knew John-Michael Wright was gonna shoot. He did. It went in. Tie game. Ugh. You can't sink a 3 from the foul line. UNCW should have fouled, High Point was awful at the line (10-for-23). I know, hindsight is 20-20. Still, a lot of defensive energy and intensity were good signs. Winning = always good.

Brownell once explained why he would not foul in that situation. He experienced the opposing team making the first ft and intentionally missing the second. They slapped the rebound out for a winning 3.

(12-19-2021 09:11 AM)SEA33HAWK Wrote:  

(12-19-2021 08:05 AM)Seahawk Lefty Wrote:  Hard-fought road win is worth celebrating. Congrats, Seahawks. But, with a 3-point lead and High Point possession in the final 20 seconds of regulation, why didn't UNCW foul intentionally? That would've forced High Point to have to make SEVERAL things happen in order to just tie it - make the first free throw, miss the second, get the rebound, score a bucket. The only way High Point could have tied was to sink a 3. Everyone in the building knew John-Michael Wright was gonna shoot. He did. It went in. Tie game. Ugh. You can't sink a 3 from the foul line. UNCW should have fouled, High Point was awful at the line (10-for-23). I know, hindsight is 20-20. Still, a lot of defensive energy and intensity were good signs. Winning = always good.

Brownell once explained why he would not foul in that situation. He experienced the opposing team making the first ft and intentionally missing the second. They slapped the rebound out for a winning 3.

Sure, that scenario is possible, but that's a LOT of things that have to go right for the other team. Highly unlikely. You assume High Point was going to make the first one (all UNCW had to do was hug the lefthanded shooter No. 5, who was an atrocious 1-for-6 at the line). Then, miss intentionally AND get the rebound? All you have to do is box out. It's the percentage, smart play. Always.

(12-19-2021 09:35 AM)Seahawk Lefty Wrote:  (all UNCW had to do was hug the lefthanded shooter No. 5, who was an atrocious 1-for-6 at the line).

Randleman fouled out before that play, so #5 wasn't an option to foul.

(12-19-2021 09:35 AM)Seahawk Lefty Wrote:  

(12-19-2021 09:11 AM)SEA33HAWK Wrote:  

(12-19-2021 08:05 AM)Seahawk Lefty Wrote:  Hard-fought road win is worth celebrating. Congrats, Seahawks. But, with a 3-point lead and High Point possession in the final 20 seconds of regulation, why didn't UNCW foul intentionally? That would've forced High Point to have to make SEVERAL things happen in order to just tie it - make the first free throw, miss the second, get the rebound, score a bucket. The only way High Point could have tied was to sink a 3. Everyone in the building knew John-Michael Wright was gonna shoot. He did. It went in. Tie game. Ugh. You can't sink a 3 from the foul line. UNCW should have fouled, High Point was awful at the line (10-for-23). I know, hindsight is 20-20. Still, a lot of defensive energy and intensity were good signs. Winning = always good.

Brownell once explained why he would not foul in that situation. He experienced the opposing team making the first ft and intentionally missing the second. They slapped the rebound out for a winning 3.

Sure, that scenario is possible, but that's a LOT of things that have to go right for the other team. Highly unlikely. You assume High Point was going to make the first one (all UNCW had to do was hug the lefthanded shooter No. 5, who was an atrocious 1-for-6 at the line). Then, miss intentionally AND get the rebound? All you have to do is box out. It's the percentage, smart play. Always.

I agree with you. 33 made a point as to why some coaches won’t do that though. Personally, I would’ve told the guys to off the ball foul their worst FT shooter. Force their worst shooter to get lucky to beat you instead of giving their best shooter the chance to tie it. Like you said, it’s the best percentage play.


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No way you foul in that situation with that much time left on the clock.

(12-19-2021 10:15 AM)B_Hawk06 Wrote:  

(12-19-2021 09:35 AM)Seahawk Lefty Wrote:  

(12-19-2021 09:11 AM)SEA33HAWK Wrote:  

(12-19-2021 08:05 AM)Seahawk Lefty Wrote:  Hard-fought road win is worth celebrating. Congrats, Seahawks. But, with a 3-point lead and High Point possession in the final 20 seconds of regulation, why didn't UNCW foul intentionally? That would've forced High Point to have to make SEVERAL things happen in order to just tie it - make the first free throw, miss the second, get the rebound, score a bucket. The only way High Point could have tied was to sink a 3. Everyone in the building knew John-Michael Wright was gonna shoot. He did. It went in. Tie game. Ugh. You can't sink a 3 from the foul line. UNCW should have fouled, High Point was awful at the line (10-for-23). I know, hindsight is 20-20. Still, a lot of defensive energy and intensity were good signs. Winning = always good.

Brownell once explained why he would not foul in that situation. He experienced the opposing team making the first ft and intentionally missing the second. They slapped the rebound out for a winning 3.

Sure, that scenario is possible, but that's a LOT of things that have to go right for the other team. Highly unlikely. You assume High Point was going to make the first one (all UNCW had to do was hug the lefthanded shooter No. 5, who was an atrocious 1-for-6 at the line). Then, miss intentionally AND get the rebound? All you have to do is box out. It's the percentage, smart play. Always.

I agree with you. 33 made a point as to why some coaches won’t do that though. Personally, I would’ve told the guys to off the ball foul their worst FT shooter. Force their worst shooter to get lucky to beat you instead of giving their best shooter the chance to tie it. Like you said, it’s the best percentage play.


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Regardless of how, you have to make someone else beat you at that moment. Whether it’s fouling as you guys have mentioned or denying him the ball. Make someone else beat you.

While I haven’t said it yet, obviously an ugly win is better than a pretty loss. I just wish we’d see some growth at the HC position and so far I don’t see that


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We shot 46% from the field, including 50% from 3. Made 5 out of 6 shots in OT. I'm hoping this is a sign of better shooting to come. The guys may have blown a 14 point lead, but they didn't fold. It may have been frustrating for us, but hopefully it will be an overall confidence builder for this team.
What concerns me the most is the free throw shooting. They have to make 100 free throws every practice. And it should carry over more in games. To me, this is the part of the game that affects players more mentally. You have more time to think about your shot. For some reason they are not very confident at the line. You see it a lot on most all teams where several players struggle at the line. But, in our case, this is a team problem. In my opinion we have lost at least one game due to poor FT shooting. I don't know how to make them more confident at the line, but it needs to happen.

IMO…Making FT in games is about having a good routine that puts you in rhythm with elbow in and over front staggered leg with weight forward . If the player can get those things together and have good success in practice (>80-85%), then things usually clean up in games. It’s also important to stick the cookie jar finish every time.

(12-19-2021 04:13 PM)billthebighawksfan Wrote:  IMO…Making FT in games is about having a good routine that puts you in rhythm with elbow in and over front staggered leg with weight forward . If the player can get those things together and have good success in practice (>80-85%), then things usually clean up in games. It’s also important to stick the cookie jar finish every time.

While I completely agree with Rhythm staggering legs is a form nightmare. Staggering legs causes more arms, more arms makes it harder to be consistent. Squaring up the hoop is shooting 101


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Most guys are staggered but you can do it another way too. I like staggered because it puts weight forward and is stable. It works for Steph and Durant obviously but he is also angled. I prefer staggered and angled slightly. Most guys do have staggered to some degree in the NBA and also in college. Weight too far back or going backwards is a killer. https://www.stack.com/a/how-to-shoot-a-free-throw/

(12-19-2021 06:14 PM)billthebighawksfan Wrote:  Most guys are staggered but you can do it another way too. I like staggered because it puts weight forward and is stable. It works for Steph and Durant obviously but he is also angled. I prefer staggered and angled slightly. Most guys do have staggered to some degree in the NBA. https://www.stack.com/a/how-to-shoot-a-free-throw/

I get that some guys do it, and it’s a matter of what you are comfortable with. But, it’s not how you teach it at a younger age. All about being square to the hoop


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It depends on how young. By age 11 a player is generally strong enough to pull it off. It’s a proven way to be accurate and why most of college/NBA guys do it . And, they also do it shooting jumpers too. Yes, you don’t have to do it and if you’re skilled enough rotate your upper body to get your elbow in front, it works. Here’s a study that was done and probably why most go the dominant foot https://thesportjournal.org/article/the-...l-players/

I don't care how they do it, but we have got to get better at the FT line. It's apparent that we are going to shoot fewer threes and drive more, which is going to create more FT chances. With fewer threes those FT's are going to become the difference between wins and losses.

As far as FG and FT percentages we need to be at around 45% and 70%. That would put us right at the #100 mark in DI. Our opponents have shot 44.4% and 71.5% from the FT line so those numbers shouldn't be out of reach. Also, putting the ball in the basket allows us to put on the press and disrupt the other teams offense and maybe get some steals or TO's.

I wasn't able to watch the HP game live so I watched it today. There have definitely been some positive changes made to our offense and a few things that still aren't good IMO.

1. We aren't planting four guys at the three point line and passing around the perimeter looking for the three any longer.
2. Some of our big men are rolling to the basket after a high pick looking for a pass over the top. We had a few, but there were several open opportunities we missed. With practice, we should get more of those easy shots.
3. We are definitley looking to drive and kick out to a set three point shooter which is giving us better looks, although fewer, and our percentage is up as a result.
4. Defensive rebounds are the key to creating pace and getting out on the break. We had 30 defensive rebounds compared to 24 for High Point. We had 14 D rebs against Jacksonville, 24 against NS, 18 SoMiss, 19 Del St., 32 Coastal, 21 Pitt and 30 against IllSt. Our best games have been those where we got on the defensive boards.
5. Getting Phillips into the paint in crunch time may be one of the most positive changes. I've been looking for who our go to guy was in crunch time and Phillips is obviously that guy now. Every good UNCW team has had that guy. And the fact Phillips was able to get to the paint and score like he did is huge.

Overall, I would take our shot selection and percentages we had against High Point every time. Turnovers(17) and FT's (16-28) killed us. Those were the difference between winning in OT and UNCW cruising to a pretty easy win. Bottom line is that the coaches are making obvious changes in every aspect of our offense. I'm still not a fan of Sims at PG and hope it's changed. If Siddle wants Phillips to score more he has the blueprint from OT. Just do it from the PG spot.

(12-19-2021 05:45 PM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  

(12-19-2021 04:13 PM)billthebighawksfan Wrote:  IMO…Making FT in games is about having a good routine that puts you in rhythm with elbow in and over front staggered leg with weight forward . If the player can get those things together and have good success in practice (>80-85%), then things usually clean up in games. It’s also important to stick the cookie jar finish every time.

While I completely agree with Rhythm staggering legs is a form nightmare. Staggering legs causes more arms, more arms makes it harder to be consistent. Squaring up the hoop is shooting 101


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Its actually just the opposite and guys who have toes even at the basket are seldom if ever good shooters. Shooting is all about balance and that does not create balance at all- alot of big guys do that and it results in a two part shot at release . Starting the ball low is what creates arm swing or starting on the wrong side which a lot of younger players do when they get out beyond their range .

(12-20-2021 12:50 PM)jumpinmullet Wrote:  

(12-19-2021 05:45 PM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  

(12-19-2021 04:13 PM)billthebighawksfan Wrote:  IMO…Making FT in games is about having a good routine that puts you in rhythm with elbow in and over front staggered leg with weight forward . If the player can get those things together and have good success in practice (>80-85%), then things usually clean up in games. It’s also important to stick the cookie jar finish every time.

While I completely agree with Rhythm staggering legs is a form nightmare. Staggering legs causes more arms, more arms makes it harder to be consistent. Squaring up the hoop is shooting 101


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Its actually just the opposite and guys who have toes even at the basket are seldom if ever good shooters. Shooting is all about balance and that does not create balance at all- alot of big guys do that and it results in a two part shot at release . Starting the ball low is what creates arm swing or starting on the wrong side which a lot of younger players do when they get out beyond their range .

I've been to many camps when i was younger, and two that were specifically shooting camps. Two at one of the best D3 schools in the nation with a legendary coach. And it was always "square up to the hoop". Every kid i've ever worked with that had trouble squaring up in 15 years of coaching that I got to square up dramatically improved their shots. So, sorry, but i disagree. I completely understand some of the modern guys think differently, i don't agree.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/hunteratkin...0b7b2b62dc
Best shooter ever, feet every so slightly off, but lower body, squared up.

Many moons ago (the 60s) the Celtics had a guard that did jump shots from the foul line. He claimed it helped him with all his shooting. I can't remember his name but he shot well. I guess the bottom line is take 'em the way you can hit 'em.

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