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RE: @High Point - GAME 8
(12-21-2021 10:59 AM)bricksnivy Wrote:  
(12-21-2021 10:26 AM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  
(12-21-2021 10:24 AM)solohawks Wrote:  
(12-21-2021 10:12 AM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  
(12-21-2021 09:12 AM)solohawks Wrote:  Were those 7 FG attempts clean looks or were they forced? Also where in the shot clock were they? If you are up 14 in the 2nd half you drain that shot clock.
While i get the line of thinking especially say the last 5 minutes, i'm also a fan of keep doing what you did to get that lead. Just like Prevent D in football, it does more harm than good.

Taking bad shots early in the shot clock is a recipe for quick transition points and lead evaporation.

That Norfolk State game we lost would have been a win had we played smarter in that last 60 seconds
I don't disagree. I'd have to assume "taking bad shots" is not how we built that lead to begin with.

You can run your offense and still slow the game down. Maybe Siddle was trying to take the air out of the ball the final 9 minutes, but having a guard dribble the shot clock down to 5 seconds and then trying to beat his man for an inside look is not a good shot regardless of the clock and score.
Agree. and that would be the = to prevent D in football. If they were getting good looks building the 14 point lead, keep doing whatever it was they were doing. Taking the air out of the ball should be saved for a double digit lead with a few minutes left, THEN, it makes sense.
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RE: @High Point - GAME 8
I'm never a fan of a team with a double digit lead changing what they've done to run out the clock. Nearly every time that happens the team that is behind is able to close the gap, even if they don't eventually take the lead. I understand the logic of it, I just see it as too much of a change. If we have a double digit lead with a minute left, I can see it but it's just never a comfortable game plan to me. Let the guys' confidence keep going until they prove otherwise.
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RE: @High Point - GAME 8
10 minutes left in the game means you've only played half of a half. There is no way you should slow anything down when you are bad in half court offense with almost 10 minutes left in a game and a 14 point lead.

And yes, for the most part we were winding down the clock and going one on one to score. We did have a few fast break attempts. But the bigger part for me was that our half court offense was still letting one guy try to go one on one while everyone else went to the three point line to "open" the lanes. That is so easy to defend and since we only kicked it back out for a three once, it was easy to help on the drive to block or alter the shot. Also, how do you go 10 minutes to end a game with Okauru getting ZERO fg attempts when he was 6-9 from the field? When Sims was at PG during that stretch he took pretty much every shot, then when Phillips was at PG he did the same. Our guys are absolutely not looking to cut or get the pass on the cut for an easy bucket. It really is just see if you can take your guy one on one.
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RE: @High Point - GAME 8
(12-21-2021 12:21 PM)82hawk Wrote:  10 minutes left in the game means you've only played half of a half. There is no way you should slow anything down when you are bad in half court offense with almost 10 minutes left in a game and a 14 point lead.

And yes, for the most part we were winding down the clock and going one on one to score. We did have a few fast break attempts. But the bigger part for me was that our half court offense was still letting one guy try to go one on one while everyone else went to the three point line to "open" the lanes. That is so easy to defend and since we only kicked it back out for a three once, it was easy to help on the drive to block or alter the shot. Also, how do you go 10 minutes to end a game with Okauru getting ZERO fg attempts when he was 6-9 from the field? When Sims was at PG during that stretch he took pretty much every shot, then when Phillips was at PG he did the same. Our guys are absolutely not looking to cut or get the pass on the cut for an easy bucket. It really is just see if you can take your guy one on one.

That is on the coach if that is the case-he either wanted that or didn't see it in real time .
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RE: @High Point - GAME 8
(12-21-2021 12:21 PM)82hawk Wrote:  10 minutes left in the game means you've only played half of a half. There is no way you should slow anything down when you are bad in half court offense with almost 10 minutes left in a game and a 14 point lead.

And yes, for the most part we were winding down the clock and going one on one to score. We did have a few fast break attempts. But the bigger part for me was that our half court offense was still letting one guy try to go one on one while everyone else went to the three point line to "open" the lanes. That is so easy to defend and since we only kicked it back out for a three once, it was easy to help on the drive to block or alter the shot. Also, how do you go 10 minutes to end a game with Okauru getting ZERO fg attempts when he was 6-9 from the field? When Sims was at PG during that stretch he took pretty much every shot, then when Phillips was at PG he did the same. Our guys are absolutely not looking to cut or get the pass on the cut for an easy bucket. It really is just see if you can take your guy one on one.

10 minutes sure.

1:20 minute when you're up 1 and have the ball, it would be better to get a shot clock violation than take a bad shot and give up a bucket in transition
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RE: @High Point - GAME 8
(12-21-2021 12:46 PM)solohawks Wrote:  
(12-21-2021 12:21 PM)82hawk Wrote:  10 minutes left in the game means you've only played half of a half. There is no way you should slow anything down when you are bad in half court offense with almost 10 minutes left in a game and a 14 point lead.

And yes, for the most part we were winding down the clock and going one on one to score. We did have a few fast break attempts. But the bigger part for me was that our half court offense was still letting one guy try to go one on one while everyone else went to the three point line to "open" the lanes. That is so easy to defend and since we only kicked it back out for a three once, it was easy to help on the drive to block or alter the shot. Also, how do you go 10 minutes to end a game with Okauru getting ZERO fg attempts when he was 6-9 from the field? When Sims was at PG during that stretch he took pretty much every shot, then when Phillips was at PG he did the same. Our guys are absolutely not looking to cut or get the pass on the cut for an easy bucket. It really is just see if you can take your guy one on one.

10 minutes sure.

1:20 minute when you're up 1 and have the ball, it would be better to get a shot clock violation than take a bad shot and give up a bucket in transition
Most bad shots don't end in transition baskets-I would rather get a shot up and maybe you get lucky or get the rebound but TOs are just killers ,even if it is sideline out . One on one play at this level is a tough way to make a living -that is why most of these guys are playing at this level because they can't really create offense off the dribble .
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