Blazer4Life14
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RE: ***Game Thread*** UTSA Battle for the West
(11-20-2021 11:27 PM)HiddenDragon Wrote: (11-20-2021 11:14 PM)Blazer4Life14 Wrote: (11-20-2021 07:16 PM)HiddenDragon Wrote: Listening to Clark right now, sickening.
What’d he say postgame?
Typical coach speak:
1. The team battle.
2. The team played so well.
3. Thought they had the 1st down.
4. Kids are hurting right now.
Blah blah blah......
I’m so sick of it man. Anything about refs? That’d be the icing on the cake.
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RE: ***Game Thread*** UTSA Battle for the West
(11-21-2021 12:36 AM)BlazinBham Wrote: (11-21-2021 12:29 AM)BlazinBham Wrote: You play the percentages.
A)likelihood you get a first down on 4th and inches is more likely to be successful than B) stopping them on your own 45 from eventually scoring a TD or C) stopping them from 80 yard TD drive.
If you convert on A, they can’t do B or C.
If you are so confident in your D, then you’d trust them in scenario B or C.
What does it say about your confidence in your offense and your coaching staff that you don’t trust them to line up and get 3 inches? (Maybe we are due for those changes that many fans have begged for)
Put the QB under center in I-Formation and have the two strongest players on the team push him from behind, over the first down marker.
Also, if you play to win, you don’t put the ball in the opponents hands when the game is on the line.
Yes I'd rather lose trying to win than lose trying not to lose. As fan I can live with going for it in crucial game on the road and we're not favored because we're playing with house money. Plus they were going to throw long passes and we had all ready been flagged for 3 PI calls. So the flow of the game to me said take your chances try to get 2 plus inches. I'm not a coach and I'm not the Coach but I pray that he confides to someone that he wishes he could do that one again and make a different decision.
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RE: ***Game Thread*** UTSA Battle for the West
If we went for the 2 inches and failed, and UTSA gets the ball and drives for the winning TD, everybody would be screaming that Clark was an idiot for going for it when we could have punted them deep in their territory and surely would have stopped them . I'm faulting his decision for rushing 3 when UTSA was having a hard time handling 4 or more. You just cant give a mobile, fairly accurate QB enough time to throw long routes. All we needed was 1 sack and the clock would keep ticking.
We are going to be there for the UTEP game and hopefully a decent bowl game to follow.
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RE: ***Game Thread*** UTSA Battle for the West
(11-20-2021 11:46 PM)BAMANBLAZERFAN Wrote: All this anger over the 4th down punt (rather than going for it at midfield) doesn't explain why we had failed in 3 downs to gain 10 yards for a needed first down. When the offense fails to gain the needed yards for a first down, you punt the ball unless you are close enough for a FG attempt. FG kickers and punters don't get onto the field unless the offense fails to gain the needed yardage to keep the ball. UAB gave up the ball almost 80 yards from our goal line, and the defense failed to stop their offense from scoring. That is why we lost that game.
Because we ran the ball 3 times, rightfully so, to drain some clock. The o line and rb did their job to get us inches short of the first down. You have four downs, use them. The defense also didn’t fail, I’m not putting it on them. We had shut UTSA out in the fourth quarter to that point by playing real defense. We decided we weren’t even going to do that. Every decision from the punt on is on the coaching staff, not the players.
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RE: ***Game Thread*** UTSA Battle for the West
(11-21-2021 09:14 AM)BlazrDawg Wrote: If we went for the 2 inches and failed, and UTSA gets the ball and drives for the winning TD, everybody would be screaming that Clark was an idiot for going for it when we could have punted them deep in their territory and surely would have stopped them . I'm faulting his decision for rushing 3 when UTSA was having a hard time handling 4 or more. You just cant give a mobile, fairly accurate QB enough time to throw long routes. All we needed was 1 sack and the clock would keep ticking.
We are going to be there for the UTEP game and hopefully a decent bowl game to follow.
Negative. It’s a game of numbers, and we played the lowest percentage out there. If we can’t pick up fourth and inches, that’s on the players at that point. Football today isn’t football in 1990. That is about as bad a coaching decision as you can make.
When Brady threw the pass to welker vs Indy years ago that wound up inches short, all the analytics were out there showing why the call was correct. We were essentially in the same exact position, except instead of needing 2-3 yards we needed a chain link.
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RE: ***Game Thread*** UTSA Battle for the West
(11-21-2021 09:14 AM)BlazrDawg Wrote: If we went for the 2 inches and failed, and UTSA gets the ball and drives for the winning TD, everybody would be screaming that Clark was an idiot for going for it when we could have punted them deep in their territory and surely would have stopped them . I'm faulting his decision for rushing 3 when UTSA was having a hard time handling 4 or more. You just cant give a mobile, fairly accurate QB enough time to throw long routes. All we needed was 1 sack and the clock would keep ticking.
We are going to be there for the UTEP game and hopefully a decent bowl game to follow.
Completely disagree for the many reasons already stated.
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11-21-2021 09:48 AM |
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RE: ***Game Thread*** UTSA Battle for the West
(11-21-2021 09:39 AM)ATTALLABLAZE Wrote: (11-21-2021 09:14 AM)BlazrDawg Wrote: If we went for the 2 inches and failed, and UTSA gets the ball and drives for the winning TD, everybody would be screaming that Clark was an idiot for going for it when we could have punted them deep in their territory and surely would have stopped them . I'm faulting his decision for rushing 3 when UTSA was having a hard time handling 4 or more. You just cant give a mobile, fairly accurate QB enough time to throw long routes. All we needed was 1 sack and the clock would keep ticking.
We are going to be there for the UTEP game and hopefully a decent bowl game to follow.
Well said. While as a fan I would have gone for it I was more upset at only rushing three. I'll be there with my crew.
yes bc you're a clark apologist.
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11-21-2021 09:50 AM |
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RE: ***Game Thread*** UTSA Battle for the West
(11-21-2021 09:14 AM)BlazrDawg Wrote: If we went for the 2 inches and failed, and UTSA gets the ball and drives for the winning TD, everybody would be screaming that Clark was an idiot for going for it when we could have punted them deep in their territory and surely would have stopped them . I'm faulting his decision for rushing 3 when UTSA was having a hard time handling 4 or more. You just cant give a mobile, fairly accurate QB enough time to throw long routes. All we needed was 1 sack and the clock would keep ticking.
We are going to be there for the UTEP game and hopefully a decent bowl game to follow.
1. Disagree with folks calling Clark an idiot if he had went for it. It was the overwhelming opinion he should have gone for it.
2. The punt didn't pin them deep.
3. I do agree rushing three was very idiotic. Not only did it give him time to throw, it allowed him to run with very little opposition to stop him.
I get the logic of what Clark was doing but if you don't trust your RB or QB and offensive line to gain a chain link for a 1st down then you don't deserve to win the game. It really is that simple.
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11-21-2021 09:51 AM |
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RE: ***Game Thread*** UTSA Battle for the West
CLARK BLEW IT. AFTER 6:30 PM TODAY IT'S TIME TO ACCEPT THIS MAJOR BLUNDER F-UP AND MOVE ON!
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RE: ***Game Thread*** UTSA Battle for the West
I don’t know. I’m still upset about getting our butts kicked at home vs a bad Rice team and a mediocre Liberty team.
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RE: ***Game Thread*** UTSA Battle for the West
In 1990, Gene Stallings first season at Alabama, in the Iron Bowl, he was faced with a 4th and 2, from his own 39, late in the the 4th quarter. Anyway, they punched it for a gain of 3, and went on to drive and score, and win 16-7. As boneheaded conservative as Stallings was, at least he was not a coward in that situation. He faced 2 yards, not 2 inches!
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RE: ***Game Thread*** UTSA Battle for the West
(11-21-2021 09:50 AM)The Answer UAB Wrote: (11-21-2021 09:39 AM)ATTALLABLAZE Wrote: (11-21-2021 09:14 AM)BlazrDawg Wrote: If we went for the 2 inches and failed, and UTSA gets the ball and drives for the winning TD, everybody would be screaming that Clark was an idiot for going for it when we could have punted them deep in their territory and surely would have stopped them . I'm faulting his decision for rushing 3 when UTSA was having a hard time handling 4 or more. You just cant give a mobile, fairly accurate QB enough time to throw long routes. All we needed was 1 sack and the clock would keep ticking.
We are going to be there for the UTEP game and hopefully a decent bowl game to follow.
Well said. While as a fan I would have gone for it I was more upset at only rushing three. I'll be there with my crew.
yes bc you're a clark apologist.
If not trashing the coach and his family makes me an apologist I can live with that.
Even though I would have gone for it. Even though I think only rushing three was a mistake final drive. Even though I disagree with the play calling since the OC has returned. Even though I would make a change at OC. (I could go on). I have disagreed with a lot of decisions but don't feel the need to be a jerk about it.
Get over yourself dude.
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RE: ***Game Thread*** UTSA Battle for the West
His family has nothing to do with what happened yesterday. I understand his family can be, and has been, vocal on social media, but that’s never had anything to do with what happens on the football field.
That decision is solely on Clark and his assistants. It was a bad one, we will all get over it one day. Hopefully in the future we realize the punt is the wrong call there.
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RE: ***Game Thread*** UTSA Battle for the West
(11-21-2021 09:58 AM)Bham Blazer Wrote: In 1990, Gene Stallings first season at Alabama, in the Iron Bowl, he was faced with a 4th and 2, from his own 39, late in the the 4th quarter. Anyway, they punched it for a gain of 3, and went on to drive and score, and win 16-7. As boneheaded conservative as Stallings was, at least he was not a coward. He faced 2 yards, not 2 inches!
Making a coaching decision that you don't agree with does not make him a coward.
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RE: ***Game Thread*** UTSA Battle for the West
Coward - one who shows disgraceful fear or timidity
Timid-
1. Lacking self-confidence; shy.
2. Fearful and hesitant
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RE: ***Game Thread*** UTSA Battle for the West
(11-21-2021 10:12 AM)busch Wrote: (11-21-2021 09:58 AM)Bham Blazer Wrote: In 1990, Gene Stallings first season at Alabama, in the Iron Bowl, he was faced with a 4th and 2, from his own 39, late in the the 4th quarter. Anyway, they punched it for a gain of 3, and went on to drive and score, and win 16-7. As boneheaded conservative as Stallings was, at least he was not a coward. He faced 2 yards, not 2 inches!
Making a coaching decision that you don't agree with does not make him a coward.
I absolutely agree with you. But Clark was definitely scared to go for a chain link to gain 1st down.
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RE: ***Game Thread*** UTSA Battle for the West
Here is one thing I noticed this game and all games this season. Why do we never try to catch the punt and run it? Multiple times we don't even field the punt and just let it roll past us.
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RE: ***Game Thread*** UTSA Battle for the West
(11-21-2021 10:20 AM)blazerblazer Wrote: Here is one thing I noticed this game and all games this season. Why do we never try to catch the punt and run it? Multiple times we don't even field the punt and just let it roll past us.
Because we want to keep Damien Miller who scored dozens of kick return TDs in HS on the bench. Duh.
Forcing an inept play caller and offense to play with what is likely the longest field on average in college football
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