(10-24-2021 10:57 AM)JMUsince89 Wrote:  

(10-24-2021 10:53 AM)bit_9 Wrote:  

(10-24-2021 10:27 AM)Purplehazed Wrote:  

(10-24-2021 08:18 AM)12thmonarch Wrote:  

(10-24-2021 07:55 AM)Purplehazed Wrote:  Take it easy on ODU, even they hate themselves now.

When they try to turn the conversation to basketball, they go next level self hate...

James are you mad, son? Our Basketball isn't doing well but that is still ump-teen times better than that mess you got up in Harrisonburg. Yeah we are mad but that is not a surprise, how you are not with your crappy program is indeed one purple **** surprise. Fix that mess you purple mattresses.

New $140M arena second in VA only to JPJ in Hooville (and that is off the chart), new coach that went to conference first in year one (Yr one was weird for sure with Covid) but still the improvement was there.

We may not be world beaters now but if you think ODU gets an easy W in Rocktown this year, wrong.

It's a good looking stadium! The UVA logo on it like



This feels right. Glad to be back in conf with y'all.

Its not UVa logo its Uva medical the company that is our EMT staff during games

I don't believe you. Our trucking company delivers supplies and one of the guys said so.

(10-24-2021 12:25 AM)mturn017 Wrote:  

(10-24-2021 12:19 AM)ODUalum78 Wrote:  

(10-24-2021 12:17 AM)JMaddy Wrote:  ODU sucks a great sucking and you will come to hate them in time much like we do at James Madison. You'll see...

You got mod powers yet? That’s at least a warning.

Negative, Powers don't move over until the Sun Belt officially announces the moves/GTS is able to move things. Which may take a bit, he hasn't gotten around to moving the new schools to the AAC yet.

(10-24-2021 10:24 AM)JMUsince89 Wrote:  Question. Does JMU have to wait for the full 2 years to become full participation member for football or can it ask the NCAA and the conference to waive the 2 year transition period if we feel ready to go earlier? Other sports already compete at that level so can they start in the conference as soon as their season starts?

JMU will have to go through the transition process I think.

CAA bros reunite

(10-24-2021 11:09 AM)BirdofParadise Wrote:  

(10-24-2021 10:24 AM)JMUsince89 Wrote:  Question. Does JMU have to wait for the full 2 years to become full participation member for football or can it ask the NCAA and the conference to waive the 2 year transition period if we feel ready to go earlier? Other sports already compete at that level so can they start in the conference as soon as their season starts?

JMU will have to go through the transition process I think.

Are we talking about the Bruce Jenner transition or the FCS to FBS reclassification transition? There's so much media misinformation out there that all of us are in a generally confused state of apprehension waiting/pleading for just some good hopeful news that doesn't make us collectively puke! I hope college football decides in general to stop "transitioning" if you will. College football fans love rivalries and regionalization...not TBA scheduled games that end up being 7PM night games in November.

(10-24-2021 11:03 AM)bit_9 Wrote:  

(10-24-2021 10:57 AM)JMUsince89 Wrote:  

(10-24-2021 10:53 AM)bit_9 Wrote:  

(10-24-2021 10:27 AM)Purplehazed Wrote:  

(10-24-2021 08:18 AM)12thmonarch Wrote:  James are you mad, son? Our Basketball isn't doing well but that is still ump-teen times better than that mess you got up in Harrisonburg. Yeah we are mad but that is not a surprise, how you are not with your crappy program is indeed one purple **** surprise. Fix that mess you purple mattresses.

New $140M arena second in VA only to JPJ in Hooville (and that is off the chart), new coach that went to conference first in year one (Yr one was weird for sure with Covid) but still the improvement was there.

We may not be world beaters now but if you think ODU gets an easy W in Rocktown this year, wrong.

It's a good looking stadium! The UVA logo on it like



This feels right. Glad to be back in conf with y'all.

Its not UVa logo its Uva medical the company that is our EMT staff during games

I don't believe you. Our trucking company delivers supplies and one of the guys said so.

There are Dukes that are pissed that it says "UVA Orthopedics" anywhere on the court and I get that...

Personally, for $250K a year, UVA Ortho" on the court (small and in the corners) is worth it.

Same for VT, ####ing way.

Glad to be here. Never really was interested in participating in CUSAbbs in version 3.0 of the conference. This feels like a fresh start and I'm excited to have more engagement and camaraderie amongst the fanbases.

I mean above, no way can I condone anything VT anywhere on any surface....UVA I can stomach a bit for $250,000.

There is a beam in the football stadium (covered now) that say "VT Sucks".

(10-24-2021 11:20 AM)farmfanucdgrad Wrote:  

(10-24-2021 11:09 AM)BirdofParadise Wrote:  

(10-24-2021 10:24 AM)JMUsince89 Wrote:  Question. Does JMU have to wait for the full 2 years to become full participation member for football or can it ask the NCAA and the conference to waive the 2 year transition period if we feel ready to go earlier? Other sports already compete at that level so can they start in the conference as soon as their season starts?

JMU will have to go through the transition process I think.

Are we talking about the Bruce Jenner transition or the FCS to FBS reclassification transition? There's so much media misinformation out there that all of us are in a generally confused state of apprehension waiting/pleading for just some good hopeful news that doesn't make us collectively puke! I hope college football decides in general to stop "transitioning" if you will. College football fans love rivalries and regionalization...not TBA scheduled games that end up being 7PM night games in November.

Lets say you announce Wednesday:

2021 You remain FCS and play your final year of Playoff Eligibility

2022: You are considered FCS independent. You can schedule whoever you like. (Many play a hybrid schedule of FCS and FBS teams. You are not considered an official member of CAA Football, but they may let you hang around for scheduling purposes. You are not eligible for postseason.

2023. You join the Sun Belt and are eligible for all SBC Titles, however per NCAA rules you are not bowl eligible UNLESS there are not enough bowl eligible teams to fill slots, at which point you are considered.

2024: Scholarships must be at 85 and you are eligible for all FBS Postseason events.

Unlike the CUSA teams who must provide a notice to CUSA, JMU is likely eligible to play Olympic Sports in the Sun belt in 2022 if they had to, you just can't join in football. I don't think they will, but I've seen FCS conferences treat outgoing members like dirt before and force things to happen.

(10-24-2021 11:04 AM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(10-24-2021 12:25 AM)mturn017 Wrote:  

(10-24-2021 12:19 AM)ODUalum78 Wrote:  

(10-24-2021 12:17 AM)JMaddy Wrote:  ODU sucks a great sucking and you will come to hate them in time much like we do at James Madison. You'll see...

You got mod powers yet? That’s at least a warning.

Negative, Powers don't move over until the Sun Belt officially announces the moves/GTS is able to move things. Which may take a bit, he hasn't gotten around to moving the new schools to the AAC yet.

I was joking, we’re not that thin skinned

Until it's official I'm still expecting this to happen.


"Thank you for your interest JMU, however, we have decided not to fill the position at this time"

(10-24-2021 11:26 AM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(10-24-2021 11:20 AM)farmfanucdgrad Wrote:  

(10-24-2021 11:09 AM)BirdofParadise Wrote:  

(10-24-2021 10:24 AM)JMUsince89 Wrote:  Question. Does JMU have to wait for the full 2 years to become full participation member for football or can it ask the NCAA and the conference to waive the 2 year transition period if we feel ready to go earlier? Other sports already compete at that level so can they start in the conference as soon as their season starts?

JMU will have to go through the transition process I think.

Are we talking about the Bruce Jenner transition or the FCS to FBS reclassification transition? There's so much media misinformation out there that all of us are in a generally confused state of apprehension waiting/pleading for just some good hopeful news that doesn't make us collectively puke! I hope college football decides in general to stop "transitioning" if you will. College football fans love rivalries and regionalization...not TBA scheduled games that end up being 7PM night games in November.

Lets say you announce Wednesday:

2021 You remain FCS and play your final year of Playoff Eligibility

2022: You are considered FCS independent. You can schedule whoever you like. (Many play a hybrid schedule of FCS and FBS teams. You are not considered an official member of CAA Football, but they may let you hang around for scheduling purposes. You are not eligible for postseason.

2023. You join the Sun Belt and are eligible for all SBC Titles, however per NCAA rules you are not bowl eligible UNLESS there are not enough bowl eligible teams to fill slots, at which point you are considered.

2024: Scholarships must be at 85 and you are eligible for all FBS Postseason events.

Unlike the CUSA teams who must provide a notice to CUSA, JMU is likely eligible to play Olympic Sports in the Sun belt in 2022 if they had to, you just can't join in football. I don't think they will, but I've seen FCS conferences treat outgoing members like dirt before and force things to happen.

Thanks for this informative answer. Kind of the lines I was thinking. Just wondered if it was possible to for go a 2022 independant and just jump right in SBC play if the NCAA would approve it. I see where scheduling would be a big bump in the road.

(10-24-2021 11:26 AM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(10-24-2021 11:20 AM)farmfanucdgrad Wrote:  

(10-24-2021 11:09 AM)BirdofParadise Wrote:  

(10-24-2021 10:24 AM)JMUsince89 Wrote:  Question. Does JMU have to wait for the full 2 years to become full participation member for football or can it ask the NCAA and the conference to waive the 2 year transition period if we feel ready to go earlier? Other sports already compete at that level so can they start in the conference as soon as their season starts?

JMU will have to go through the transition process I think.

Are we talking about the Bruce Jenner transition or the FCS to FBS reclassification transition? There's so much media misinformation out there that all of us are in a generally confused state of apprehension waiting/pleading for just some good hopeful news that doesn't make us collectively puke! I hope college football decides in general to stop "transitioning" if you will. College football fans love rivalries and regionalization...not TBA scheduled games that end up being 7PM night games in November.

Lets say you announce Wednesday:

2021 You remain FCS and play your final year of Playoff Eligibility

2022: You are considered FCS independent. You can schedule whoever you like. (Many play a hybrid schedule of FCS and FBS teams. You are not considered an official member of CAA Football, but they may let you hang around for scheduling purposes. You are not eligible for postseason.

2023. You join the Sun Belt and are eligible for all SBC Titles, however per NCAA rules you are not bowl eligible UNLESS there are not enough bowl eligible teams to fill slots, at which point you are considered.

2024: Scholarships must be at 85 and you are eligible for all FBS Postseason events.

Unlike the CUSA teams who must provide a notice to CUSA, JMU is likely eligible to play Olympic Sports in the Sun belt in 2022 if they had to, you just can't join in football. I don't think they will, but I've seen FCS conferences treat outgoing members like dirt before and force things to happen.

The CAA is King **** of Treat Outgoing Members Like Dirt Mountain. In spring 2012, ODU and VCU announced their plans to leave effective July 1, 2013. The CAA immediately disqualified both from all conference tournaments. VCU reacted by working with the A-10 to allow them to join that fall (Butler did too, after the Horizon tried a similar trick; the result was a one-time-only 16-team A-10 that produced five bids). Had the CAA not had such a needlessly vindictive bylaw on their books, they would have enjoyed the two NCAA units that VCU would have produced in their last season when they beat Wichita and went to the round of 32. Oh well.

ODU also tried to leave early but despite working with CUSA couldn't make the scheduling considerations work out, so they spent the lame-duck year in the CAA. They actually delayed the FBS transition process because they felt like they had a national title contender that year and the lack of an automatic bid didn't really affect them. Then Georgia Southern happened. Again. Half FBS/half FCS schedule in 2013 (CUSA members in the other sports), then full FBS/CUSA schedule in 2014.

And here we are.

(10-24-2021 01:34 PM)Cyniclone Wrote:  

(10-24-2021 11:26 AM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(10-24-2021 11:20 AM)farmfanucdgrad Wrote:  

(10-24-2021 11:09 AM)BirdofParadise Wrote:  

(10-24-2021 10:24 AM)JMUsince89 Wrote:  Question. Does JMU have to wait for the full 2 years to become full participation member for football or can it ask the NCAA and the conference to waive the 2 year transition period if we feel ready to go earlier? Other sports already compete at that level so can they start in the conference as soon as their season starts?

JMU will have to go through the transition process I think.

Are we talking about the Bruce Jenner transition or the FCS to FBS reclassification transition? There's so much media misinformation out there that all of us are in a generally confused state of apprehension waiting/pleading for just some good hopeful news that doesn't make us collectively puke! I hope college football decides in general to stop "transitioning" if you will. College football fans love rivalries and regionalization...not TBA scheduled games that end up being 7PM night games in November.

Lets say you announce Wednesday:

2021 You remain FCS and play your final year of Playoff Eligibility

2022: You are considered FCS independent. You can schedule whoever you like. (Many play a hybrid schedule of FCS and FBS teams. You are not considered an official member of CAA Football, but they may let you hang around for scheduling purposes. You are not eligible for postseason.

2023. You join the Sun Belt and are eligible for all SBC Titles, however per NCAA rules you are not bowl eligible UNLESS there are not enough bowl eligible teams to fill slots, at which point you are considered.

2024: Scholarships must be at 85 and you are eligible for all FBS Postseason events.

Unlike the CUSA teams who must provide a notice to CUSA, JMU is likely eligible to play Olympic Sports in the Sun belt in 2022 if they had to, you just can't join in football. I don't think they will, but I've seen FCS conferences treat outgoing members like dirt before and force things to happen.

The CAA is King **** of Treat Outgoing Members Like Dirt Mountain. In spring 2012, ODU and VCU announced their plans to leave effective July 1, 2013. The CAA immediately disqualified both from all conference tournaments. VCU reacted by working with the A-10 to allow them to join that fall (Butler did too, after the Horizon tried a similar trick; the result was a one-time-only 16-team A-10 that produced five bids). Had the CAA not had such a needlessly vindictive bylaw on their books, they would have enjoyed the two NCAA units that VCU would have produced in their last season when they beat Wichita and went to the round of 32. Oh well.

ODU also tried to leave early but despite working with CUSA couldn't make the scheduling considerations work out, so they spent the lame-duck year in the CAA. They actually delayed the FBS transition process because they felt like they had a national title contender that year and the lack of an automatic bid didn't really affect them. Then Georgia Southern happened. Again. Half FBS/half FCS schedule in 2013 (CUSA members in the other sports), then full FBS/CUSA schedule in 2014.

And here we are.

They did the same to Georgia State as well. If I remember, the SBC had to work with them to provide games and even let a few of the sports where you don't play a conference schedule (I.E. Golf and Tennis) move quickly.

Nobody has mentioned the ODU ice cream and cake

(10-24-2021 11:31 AM)mturn017 Wrote:  

(10-24-2021 11:04 AM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(10-24-2021 12:25 AM)mturn017 Wrote:  

(10-24-2021 12:19 AM)ODUalum78 Wrote:  

(10-24-2021 12:17 AM)JMaddy Wrote:  ODU sucks a great sucking and you will come to hate them in time much like we do at James Madison. You'll see...

You got mod powers yet? That’s at least a warning.

Negative, Powers don't move over until the Sun Belt officially announces the moves/GTS is able to move things. Which may take a bit, he hasn't gotten around to moving the new schools to the AAC yet.

I was joking, we’re not that thin skinned

Any mod will tell you that there are people on several forums around here that are so thin skinned they'd actually want a mod to ban for that...lol.

(10-24-2021 01:44 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(10-24-2021 11:31 AM)mturn017 Wrote:  

(10-24-2021 11:04 AM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(10-24-2021 12:25 AM)mturn017 Wrote:  

(10-24-2021 12:19 AM)ODUalum78 Wrote:  

You got mod powers yet? That’s at least a warning.

Negative, Powers don't move over until the Sun Belt officially announces the moves/GTS is able to move things. Which may take a bit, he hasn't gotten around to moving the new schools to the AAC yet.

I was joking, we’re not that thin skinned

Any mod will tell you that there are people on several forums around here that are so thin skinned they'd actually want a mod to ban for that...lol.

Shoot. This is the honeymoon period.

(10-24-2021 01:42 PM)Soaring Eagle Wrote:  Nobody has mentioned the ODU ice cream and cake

We want them to like us, at least until we’re official.

(10-24-2021 12:10 AM)ODUalum78 Wrote:  

(10-24-2021 12:00 AM)WinstonTheWolf Wrote:  Can someone explain Old Dominion to me, because I'm lost on what/who they are. Not familiar at all with them - from Virginia I guess? Don't much like spooks. Guess I could Google ODU but it would be better for ODU fans to explain it to me.

Old Dominion University is a Carnegie R2 National doctoral public research university in Norfolk, Virginia. Enrollment is 24k+

It was established in 1930 as the Norfolk Division of the College of William & Mary. In 1962 it became Old Dominion University.

The name "Old Dominion" is the State of Virginia's nickname, given to the state by King Charles II of England for remaining loyal to the crown during the English Civil War.

Thus Virginia Cavaliers because the Cavaliers supported monarchy over the republic.

Interesting that Virginia was arguably only behind Massachusetts in revolutionary fervor. Primarily because Massachusetts lost most of its home rule which alarmed the Virginia leaders.

First reduction of home rule came from the Boston martyrs incidents killing Quakers in the 1660s and accelerated in the 1750s.

(10-24-2021 12:17 AM)WinstonTheWolf Wrote:  Interesting. Louisiana has parishes and French law and VA is a Commonwealth, not a state. Norfolk is a Navy town, no?

And Rhode Island had easily the longest name. State of Rhode Island and Providence Plantations, but dropped and Providence Plantations last year