(03-01-2021 09:37 AM)AssyrianDuke Wrote:  Actually, I am not sure what the added year of eligibility means with regards to scholarship limits. Can we add a new player that would normally push us over the limit? Or can we only exceed the limit in order to accommodate players currently on our roster?

Good question. I've always assumed you could just temporarily go over the max limit for a season. If not, it would stymie the number of high schoolers who could get a free education at the collegiate level which would be unfair to them I'd think. The athletic programs and universities of course must fund these scholarships and with almost all of them significantly on hard times financially right now, I wonder if financing/budgets come into play advising the head coaches of all the various programs as to what they can/can't do.

(03-01-2021 10:41 AM)Wear Purple Wrote:  

(03-01-2021 09:37 AM)AssyrianDuke Wrote:  Actually, I am not sure what the added year of eligibility means with regards to scholarship limits. Can we add a new player that would normally push us over the limit? Or can we only exceed the limit in order to accommodate players currently on our roster?

Good question. I've always assumed you could just temporarily go over the max limit for a season. If not, it would stymie the number of high schoolers who could get a free education at the collegiate level which would be unfair to them I'd think. The athletic programs and universities of course must fund these scholarships and with almost all of them significantly on hard times financially right now, I wonder if financing/budgets come into play advising the head coaches of all the various programs as to what they can/can't do.

Some info in this article, if you have an ESPN subscription, may help answer your questions.

"Taking every senior back won't be a huge deal for power conference programs, at least from a roster management standpoint. The NCAA isn't counting returning seniors against the 13-scholarship limit next year, so some teams could carry 16 or more scholarship players on their rosters."

"Seniors could also take advantage of the extra year -- at another school. While those student-athletes would count toward the 13-scholarship limit at a different school, there will still be a market for them. Multiple coaches said they expect back-end starters or sixth men from high-major programs to look for alternatives next season, especially if their playing time could diminish with the addition of incoming freshmen or transfers."

(03-01-2021 12:35 PM)Bawlmer Duke Wrote:  

(03-01-2021 10:41 AM)Wear Purple Wrote:  

(03-01-2021 09:37 AM)AssyrianDuke Wrote:  Actually, I am not sure what the added year of eligibility means with regards to scholarship limits. Can we add a new player that would normally push us over the limit? Or can we only exceed the limit in order to accommodate players currently on our roster?

Good question. I've always assumed you could just temporarily go over the max limit for a season. If not, it would stymie the number of high schoolers who could get a free education at the collegiate level which would be unfair to them I'd think. The athletic programs and universities of course must fund these scholarships and with almost all of them significantly on hard times financially right now, I wonder if financing/budgets come into play advising the head coaches of all the various programs as to what they can/can't do.

Some info in this article, if you have an ESPN subscription, may help answer your questions.

"Taking every senior back won't be a huge deal for power conference programs, at least from a roster management standpoint. The NCAA isn't counting returning seniors against the 13-scholarship limit next year, so some teams could carry 16 or more scholarship players on their rosters."

"Seniors could also take advantage of the extra year -- at another school. While those student-athletes would count toward the 13-scholarship limit at a different school, there will still be a market for them. Multiple coaches said they expect back-end starters or sixth men from high-major programs to look for alternatives next season, especially if their playing time could diminish with the addition of incoming freshmen or transfers."

I read this as there being no reason Zach shouldn't come back. Assuming he wants to stay, we have our big man "recruit" for at least one year. Is he a superstar? No, but he should be better in the short term than any freshmen or transfers we are likely to get.

(03-01-2021 09:25 PM)purplesanman Wrote:  

(03-01-2021 12:35 PM)Bawlmer Duke Wrote:  

(03-01-2021 10:41 AM)Wear Purple Wrote:  

(03-01-2021 09:37 AM)AssyrianDuke Wrote:  Actually, I am not sure what the added year of eligibility means with regards to scholarship limits. Can we add a new player that would normally push us over the limit? Or can we only exceed the limit in order to accommodate players currently on our roster?

Good question. I've always assumed you could just temporarily go over the max limit for a season. If not, it would stymie the number of high schoolers who could get a free education at the collegiate level which would be unfair to them I'd think. The athletic programs and universities of course must fund these scholarships and with almost all of them significantly on hard times financially right now, I wonder if financing/budgets come into play advising the head coaches of all the various programs as to what they can/can't do.

Some info in this article, if you have an ESPN subscription, may help answer your questions.

"Taking every senior back won't be a huge deal for power conference programs, at least from a roster management standpoint. The NCAA isn't counting returning seniors against the 13-scholarship limit next year, so some teams could carry 16 or more scholarship players on their rosters."

"Seniors could also take advantage of the extra year -- at another school. While those student-athletes would count toward the 13-scholarship limit at a different school, there will still be a market for them. Multiple coaches said they expect back-end starters or sixth men from high-major programs to look for alternatives next season, especially if their playing time could diminish with the addition of incoming freshmen or transfers."

I read this as there being no reason Zach shouldn't come back. Assuming he wants to stay, we have our big man "recruit" for at least one year. Is he a superstar? No, but he should be better in the short term than any freshmen or transfers we are likely to get.

Would be a nice bonus to get Zach back. Also regarding Lewis doubtful he would come back but consider this:
1) good first season under Coach By and would have to think he’d be welcome back
2) draft class this year may be better than next- not sure at the end of the draft ie depth and who knows maybe late 1st and second rounders this year some stay in school for the extra year and next year has more depth but I think this years may be a better class
3) girlfriend still at JMU
4) this years draft lead up will be more normal and Matt will get more on court feedback he’s also coming off a knee issue. It’s possible the feedback could be more valuable this time and may be that he needs to get healthy to get drafted.

I don’t expect a return but there are several reasons for him to consider. The challenge would be rotation next year. Coach By has shown an ability to play a deeper rotation but you’d think Taylor and Mensah would be in the mix for minutes as would a couple of freshmen too.

The interesting thing for me will be the 22 class- how many scholarships will they have to fill? Will guys like Morse and Hodge stay on for an extra year, will Mensah and Taylor?

Zach has a really good job lined up once he graduates. His future is not in basketball. He is a true student athlete so he won’t be back.

If Matt gets a good professional offer, I can’t imagine he will come back either. The window to play professionally isn’t large for most maybe 7-10 years.

(02-28-2021 12:23 PM)Anders Wrote:  

https://twitter.com/jakelieberman2/statu...6931045376

He's heard from at least 16 schools according to this twitter poster -- JMU and UNCW out of the CAA

(03-02-2021 12:16 PM)Bawlmer Duke Wrote:  

(02-28-2021 12:23 PM)Anders Wrote:  

https://twitter.com/jakelieberman2/statu...6931045376

He's heard from at least 16 schools according to this twitter poster -- JMU and UNCW out of the CAA

It seems like this would be a great fit for him. Wonder why he is transferring.

(03-03-2021 02:17 PM)Dukester Wrote:  

(03-02-2021 12:16 PM)Bawlmer Duke Wrote:  

(02-28-2021 12:23 PM)Anders Wrote:  

https://twitter.com/jakelieberman2/statu...6931045376

He's heard from at least 16 schools according to this twitter poster -- JMU and UNCW out of the CAA

It seems like this would be a great fit for him. Wonder why he is transferring.

From my understanding, a good portion of the team is transferring out. I believe their head coach passed away part way into the season.

(03-03-2021 02:31 PM)Anders Wrote:  

(03-03-2021 02:17 PM)Dukester Wrote:  

(03-02-2021 12:16 PM)Bawlmer Duke Wrote:  

(02-28-2021 12:23 PM)Anders Wrote:  

https://twitter.com/jakelieberman2/statu...6931045376

He's heard from at least 16 schools according to this twitter poster -- JMU and UNCW out of the CAA

It seems like this would be a great fit for him. Wonder why he is transferring.

From my understanding, a good portion of the team is transferring out. I believe their head coach passed away part way into the season.

In November - https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cbsspor...ge-50/amp/

Seems like some guys receiving interest for transfer. Do we predict having a scholarship open?

(03-03-2021 10:11 PM)Anders Wrote:  

Seems like some guys receiving interest for transfer. Do we predict having a scholarship open?

Taylor?
Covering their bases?

Doesn’t have good shooting numbers and turns it over

https://upstatespartans.com/sports/mens-...mmond/4170

https://upstatespartans.com/news/2021/2/...eason.aspx

Lewis has an ACL tear...I bet he comes back since there are no scholarship limits next year. Even if just to play in the stretch run and maybe beyond?

(03-07-2021 05:12 PM)PhillyDuke Wrote:  Lewis has an ACL tear...I bet he comes back since there are no scholarship limits next year. Even if just to play in the stretch run and maybe beyond?

This would be quite surprising given Coach B's comments about Lewis going pro. I would be happy if he returns, but also happy if he finds success as a pro.

(03-07-2021 06:50 PM)JMURocks Wrote:  

(03-07-2021 05:12 PM)PhillyDuke Wrote:  Lewis has an ACL tear...I bet he comes back since there are no scholarship limits next year. Even if just to play in the stretch run and maybe beyond?

This would be quite surprising given Coach B's comments about Lewis going pro. I would be happy if he returns, but also happy if he finds success as a pro.

Id be happy for him if he goes pro. I was also surprised to hear the announcers today mention the acl tear since I previously heard 8 weeks?. I cant imagine it will be ready for the NBA draft if its a tear?

An ACL tear? I’m not a medical doc, but I suppose that’s better than a torn meniscus, which can’t really be repaired, only “scoped” or cleaned-up (and if bad enough, result in a “new” knee...which I went through last year). With a torn ligament it can heal on its own (if it’s not too bad), or be surgically repaired.

Having Matt back next year for a full non-covid season would be great...but doubt he’ll want to do that.

(03-07-2021 08:00 PM)Longhorn Wrote:  An ACL tear? I’m not a medical doc, but I suppose that’s better than a torn meniscus, which can’t really be repaired, only “scoped” or cleaned-up (and if bad enough, result in a “new” knee...which I went through last year). With a torn ligament it can heal on its own (if it’s not too bad), or be surgically repaired.

Having Matt back next year for a full non-covid season would be great...but doubt he’ll want to do that.

An ACL tear is quite the injury, worse than torn meniscus and a scope. It will shelve him several months before activities resume and might even be 9-12 to get back to normal.

(03-07-2021 08:36 PM)Polish Hammer Wrote:  

(03-07-2021 08:00 PM)Longhorn Wrote:  An ACL tear? I’m not a medical doc, but I suppose that’s better than a torn meniscus, which can’t really be repaired, only “scoped” or cleaned-up (and if bad enough, result in a “new” knee...which I went through last year). With a torn ligament it can heal on its own (if it’s not too bad), or be surgically repaired.

Having Matt back next year for a full non-covid season would be great...but doubt he’ll want to do that.

An ACL tear is quite the injury, worse than torn meniscus and a scope. It will shelve him several months before activities resume and might even be 9-12 to get back to normal.

I never intended to minimize an ACL injury, but instead was pointing out it is repairable, and that alone makes it better prognosis-wise as an orthopedic injury.

A meniscus tear is not repairable as the meniscus can’t be sewn up and it doesn’t grow back because it’s basically cartilage. The only thing a surgeon can do with a torn meniscus is scope it by trimming away the torn parts, in essence shaving and reshaping it. If the meniscus is torn bad enough the only real option is a total knee replacement, and that spells the end of any future as a competitive athlete.

(03-07-2021 08:59 PM)Longhorn Wrote:  An ACL tear...that’s better than a torn meniscus

No one else would ever say that.

Quote:Is an ACL Tear Worse Than a Meniscal Tear?

ACL Tears
Usually requires surgical intervention.
Longer recovery time.
Reduced instability after surgery.
Reduce chances of osteoarthritis.


Meniscus Tears
Can be treated conservatively or surgically.
Shorter recovery time.
Possible instability of the knee joint.
Increased chance of developing osteoarthritis.

In knee injuries, the phrase “ACL tear” is probably the most dreaded words that you could ever hear, while having a torn meniscus does not seem to be as terrible.

I wonder if assistant coach Joyner’s son would transfer to JMU. He was all conference as a freshman at the D2 level and just entered the transfer portal. There have been some nice D2 to D1 transfers at the mid major level/ Winthrop specializes in them and the UNCW kid from a few years ago. Supposedly outside shooting is his specialty maybe he’s even transfer as a walk on since his Dad coaches at JMU.