Mr. Airline, do you thank the government each day for keeping your industry afloat? Working for an airline is the same as being on welfare except you are required to show up to get your check. Now this failed business model will ban potential clients? Smart.

(01-11-2021 03:26 PM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  Outside of the EEOC, protected classes generally don’t apply to wholly private businesses unless you make wedding cakes.

https://www.transportation.gov/airconsum...rimination

Doesn't use the specific phrase "protected class" but it's the same idea.

(01-11-2021 03:30 PM)banker Wrote:  Mr. Airline, do you thank the government each day for keeping your industry afloat? Working for an airline is the same as being on welfare except you are required to show up to get your check. Now this failed business model will ban potential clients? Smart.

I have no problem with the government playing a role in air transportation. Dunno how much you fly but if you enjoy affordable fares you shouldn't either.

(01-11-2021 03:30 PM)banker Wrote:  Mr. Airline, do you thank the government each day for keeping your industry afloat? Working for an airline is the same as being on welfare except you are required to show up to get your check. Now this failed business model will ban potential clients? Smart.

We should let the airlines go down. Airlines in general have the worst customer service of any industry, can openly discriminate against customers, citing whatever they want and nobody will question it.

It is time we let them free... sink or swim. No more taxpayer money.

Someone please tell Elon Musk to start an airline.

(01-11-2021 03:32 PM)wmubroncopilot Wrote:  

(01-11-2021 03:30 PM)banker Wrote:  Mr. Airline, do you thank the government each day for keeping your industry afloat? Working for an airline is the same as being on welfare except you are required to show up to get your check. Now this failed business model will ban potential clients? Smart.

I have no problem with the government playing a role in air transportation. Dunno how much you fly but if you enjoy affordable fares you shouldn't either.

"Playing a role" = Bail our sorry asses out every couple years because we offer a ****** product with a ****** attitude.

(01-11-2021 03:34 PM)ECUGrad07 Wrote:  

(01-11-2021 03:32 PM)wmubroncopilot Wrote:  

(01-11-2021 03:30 PM)banker Wrote:  Mr. Airline, do you thank the government each day for keeping your industry afloat? Working for an airline is the same as being on welfare except you are required to show up to get your check. Now this failed business model will ban potential clients? Smart.

I have no problem with the government playing a role in air transportation. Dunno how much you fly but if you enjoy affordable fares you shouldn't either.

"Playing a role" = Bail our sorry asses out every couple years because we offer a ****** product with a ****** attitude.

No question that airlines have major customer service issues. I would say some do a pretty good job, but not all.

Large sprawling international airlines have had a really hard time making money globally, forever. That's why they've been nationalized or pseudo-nationalized in so many places. Smaller domestic airlines have had better success. I am not convinced that airlines trying to cover so much of the world can feasibly make money on a consistent basis. Governments, realizing that air transportation is pretty critical, have stepped in with money, but I agree our system of "wait till they fail and bail them out" is pretty inefficient.

Will be interesting to see how technology and the internet affect volume of international travel going forward.

(01-11-2021 10:06 AM)MemTigers1998 Wrote:  Hope BLM rioters are on those lists too. Or can they even afford to fly?

They came in by bus to the last rally.

6 busloads.

(01-11-2021 02:28 PM)wmubroncopilot Wrote:  

(01-11-2021 02:21 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(01-11-2021 02:11 PM)wmubroncopilot Wrote:  

(01-11-2021 02:10 PM)Eagleaidaholic Wrote:  

(01-11-2021 02:08 PM)wmubroncopilot Wrote:  LOL no you wouldn't. You have no inherent right to be allowed on someone's airplane.

So. You are saying it is perfectly fine for an airline to not board Blacks, Jews, Catholics or disabled folks? Airlines aren't the Government.

Trump cultists aren't a protected class

Protected class. How damn embarrassing. You think it's a badge of honor. Nah most Trump supporters dont need special attention. They dont need to be protected. They protect themselves

We don't all yearn for the 1950s

True. Many yearn for the 1930's

(01-11-2021 01:53 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  I dont know how they could completely and positively identify folks well enough already to put them on a "no fly" list. I do think the fall out for many people who participated will be much worse than they ever expected. Im sure some got caught up in the moment---but there are things you just dont do.

You can bet it will be far worse than anything antifa and BLM arrestee's will face.

(01-11-2021 01:55 PM)ECUGrad07 Wrote:  LoL OP would literally be the guy in China high-fiving his commie buddies about all the awesome genocide they're committing... until they get to him... and then it'd be "Wait...wait... I was a good little communist!"

Exactly.

(01-11-2021 03:01 PM)No Bull Wrote:  

(01-11-2021 02:28 PM)wmubroncopilot Wrote:  

(01-11-2021 02:21 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(01-11-2021 02:11 PM)wmubroncopilot Wrote:  

(01-11-2021 02:10 PM)Eagleaidaholic Wrote:  So. You are saying it is perfectly fine for an airline to not board Blacks, Jews, Catholics or disabled folks? Airlines aren't the Government.

Trump cultists aren't a protected class

Protected class. How damn embarrassing. You think it's a badge of honor. Nah most Trump supporters dont need special attention. They dont need to be protected. They protect themselves

We don't all yearn for the 1950s

How old are you? 15?

I bet he's 35-40 and suffers from white guilt.

(01-11-2021 03:10 PM)swagsurfer11 Wrote:  

(01-11-2021 02:10 PM)wmubroncopilot Wrote:  

(01-11-2021 01:43 PM)No2rdame Wrote:  

(01-11-2021 01:36 PM)swagsurfer11 Wrote:  

(01-11-2021 10:16 AM)No2rdame Wrote:  They usually fly Spirit Airlines.

Many types of stereos in this thread.

Oh, my bad, the Soros funded black lies matter "peaceful protestors" probably charter a private jet and sip champagne en route to their destinations to burn, loot, and destroy.

I'm still waiting on my Soros check, dude isn't getting our money out very efficiently

Contact HR at Antifa.com and let them know. There was a mix up in the system when trying to log in the cans of soup (for our families), messed up a lot of things up.

Oh please, I bet you haven't missed a meal.

(01-11-2021 03:56 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(01-11-2021 02:28 PM)wmubroncopilot Wrote:  

(01-11-2021 02:21 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(01-11-2021 02:11 PM)wmubroncopilot Wrote:  

(01-11-2021 02:10 PM)Eagleaidaholic Wrote:  So. You are saying it is perfectly fine for an airline to not board Blacks, Jews, Catholics or disabled folks? Airlines aren't the Government.

Trump cultists aren't a protected class

Protected class. How damn embarrassing. You think it's a badge of honor. Nah most Trump supporters dont need special attention. They dont need to be protected. They protect themselves

We don't all yearn for the 1950s

True. Many yearn for the 1930's

I yearn for the 50's, the 1850's. I was born way too late.

(01-11-2021 02:50 PM)MileHighBronco Wrote:  

(01-11-2021 02:02 PM)smudge12 Wrote:  I think we need to heavily reform the no-fly list and make it a lot more transparent. There needs to be some due process involved at the federal level instead of blanket-labeling people as terrorists or whatever.

That said, I'm fine when airlines choose not to do business with certain people if they break rules, delay flights, endanger others. I'm fine if they want to share those lists with other airlines. Actions should have consequences.

Those 'consequences' could have a real negative effect on their bottom lines. I'm fine with conservatives getting together and refusing to fly any longer on those airlines who want to go down this road. As a business model, antagonizing half of the potential flying public isn't a great strategy. If people chanting, "USA!" bothers you so much, don't fly. If it bothers the flight crew so much, perhaps they need to find another job. It sounds like it just annoyed them. If what they were doing was definitively endangering flight safety, that is another conversation entirely. I have seen nor heard any such thing.

Just wait until cancel culture gets worse. What lefties don't realize is that this CAN backfire on them once the tables get turned. THEY themselves might find it hard to do business as usual once some on the right who own businesses decide to respond in kind.

As was said before, the airplane is the responsibility of the Captain and he or she gets to decide if you fly that day. And their union will go to bat for them if the airline gets sued.

Disregarding the instructions of the flight crew (arguing about masks, chanting when they tell you not to) or interfering with the flight crew (chanting when they are trying to use the PA) are both prohibited by the FAA and can incur a fine of up to $25k.

I've flown over 1M miles as a passenger (mostly on NWA/Delta, some on American, United, Other), you will never win an argument with a flight attendant. If you push it and argue on the ground they will tell you to leave. If you refuse the police will come on and get you. If you cause problems in the air they will have police meet you at the destination.

You don't have a right to ride on their airline, if you want to get to your destination go along with the flight crew.

(01-11-2021 05:52 PM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  

(01-11-2021 02:50 PM)MileHighBronco Wrote:  

(01-11-2021 02:02 PM)smudge12 Wrote:  I think we need to heavily reform the no-fly list and make it a lot more transparent. There needs to be some due process involved at the federal level instead of blanket-labeling people as terrorists or whatever.

That said, I'm fine when airlines choose not to do business with certain people if they break rules, delay flights, endanger others. I'm fine if they want to share those lists with other airlines. Actions should have consequences.

Those 'consequences' could have a real negative effect on their bottom lines. I'm fine with conservatives getting together and refusing to fly any longer on those airlines who want to go down this road. As a business model, antagonizing half of the potential flying public isn't a great strategy. If people chanting, "USA!" bothers you so much, don't fly. If it bothers the flight crew so much, perhaps they need to find another job. It sounds like it just annoyed them. If what they were doing was definitively endangering flight safety, that is another conversation entirely. I have seen nor heard any such thing.

Just wait until cancel culture gets worse. What lefties don't realize is that this CAN backfire on them once the tables get turned. THEY themselves might find it hard to do business as usual once some on the right who own businesses decide to respond in kind.

As was said before, the airplane is the responsibility of the Captain and he or she gets to decide if you fly that day. And their union will go to bat for them if the airline gets sued.

Disregarding the instructions of the flight crew (arguing about masks, chanting when they tell you not to) or interfering with the flight crew (chanting when they are trying to use the PA) are both prohibited by the FAA and can incur a fine of up to $25k.

I've flown over 1M miles as a passenger (mostly on NWA/Delta, some on American, United, Other), you will never win an argument with a flight attendant. If you push it and argue on the ground they will tell you to leave. If you refuse the police will come on and get you. If you cause problems in the air they will have police meet you at the destination.

You don't have a right to ride on their airline, if you want to get to your destination go along with the flight crew.

Dear Diary ...

No shite. Maybe they should give people a political purity test before flying. Did you read the thread at all.

I can't believe these people are actually advocating for this kind of treatment to their own fellow Americans over politics. What complete scum they have become.

(01-11-2021 06:05 PM)BartlettTigerFan Wrote:  I can't believe these people are actually advocating for this kind of treatment to their own fellow Americans over politics. What complete scum they have become.

It's not over politics. Again, nobody is kicking people off for wearing Trump gear or whatever. People are getting kicked off for being disruptive jacka$$es.

(01-11-2021 05:59 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(01-11-2021 05:52 PM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  

(01-11-2021 02:50 PM)MileHighBronco Wrote:  

(01-11-2021 02:02 PM)smudge12 Wrote:  I think we need to heavily reform the no-fly list and make it a lot more transparent. There needs to be some due process involved at the federal level instead of blanket-labeling people as terrorists or whatever.

That said, I'm fine when airlines choose not to do business with certain people if they break rules, delay flights, endanger others. I'm fine if they want to share those lists with other airlines. Actions should have consequences.

Those 'consequences' could have a real negative effect on their bottom lines. I'm fine with conservatives getting together and refusing to fly any longer on those airlines who want to go down this road. As a business model, antagonizing half of the potential flying public isn't a great strategy. If people chanting, "USA!" bothers you so much, don't fly. If it bothers the flight crew so much, perhaps they need to find another job. It sounds like it just annoyed them. If what they were doing was definitively endangering flight safety, that is another conversation entirely. I have seen nor heard any such thing.

Just wait until cancel culture gets worse. What lefties don't realize is that this CAN backfire on them once the tables get turned. THEY themselves might find it hard to do business as usual once some on the right who own businesses decide to respond in kind.

As was said before, the airplane is the responsibility of the Captain and he or she gets to decide if you fly that day. And their union will go to bat for them if the airline gets sued.

Disregarding the instructions of the flight crew (arguing about masks, chanting when they tell you not to) or interfering with the flight crew (chanting when they are trying to use the PA) are both prohibited by the FAA and can incur a fine of up to $25k.

I've flown over 1M miles as a passenger (mostly on NWA/Delta, some on American, United, Other), you will never win an argument with a flight attendant. If you push it and argue on the ground they will tell you to leave. If you refuse the police will come on and get you. If you cause problems in the air they will have police meet you at the destination.

You don't have a right to ride on their airline, if you want to get to your destination go along with the flight crew.

Dear Diary ...

No shite. Maybe they should give people a political purity test before flying. Did you read the thread at all.

These people aren't getting kicked off for being on the no fly list, they are getting kicked off for their behavior on the plane.

The no fly list won't allow you to check in for the flight, the app directs you to the counter. Someone with the same name and birthday as my mom was on the no fly list, we had to get a redress number. If you are on the no fly list you are getting no where near the airplane to get kicked off.

Where is the video of these unruly Trump people?

(01-11-2021 06:05 PM)BartlettTigerFan Wrote:  I can't believe these people are actually advocating for this kind of treatment to their own fellow Americans over politics. What complete scum they have become.

You've literally insinuated on this board you were willing to murder people because they were liberal.