https://spectator.org/first-hand-account-trump-riots/

An account from someone who was in the rally and march.

(01-11-2021 12:40 PM)smudge12 Wrote:  I was listening to Trump's speech live and watching the entire thing from start to finish at work.

At 1:02pm I sent this message to my friend:

"Wouldn't be surprised if sh*t goes down after this speech, he's doing a good job rallying these folks."

At 1:45pm I sent this:

"Uh, protestors have pushed into the Capitol building. They're on the steps now."

At 1:52pm:

"They've breached it. F*ck."

I don't like Pelosi or Biden or Trump or the Democrats or Republicans or most politicians, but I do believe in our Constitution. What I saw live with my own eyes and heard with my own ears was a straight up rally to incite violence to overturn fair and free elections.

Trump deserves impeachment. If I'm a Senator, I'd convict.

DEMOCRAT!!!!

Trump was still speaking when Antifa breached the Capital. He wrapped up his speech by saying "Walk to the Capital and PEACEFULLY let your voice be heard". Yep that PEACEFULLY sounds exactly like inciting a riot.

(01-11-2021 12:40 PM)smudge12 Wrote:  I was listening to Trump's speech live and watching the entire thing from start to finish at work.

At 1:02pm I sent this message to my friend:

"Wouldn't be surprised if sh*t goes down after this speech, he's doing a good job rallying these folks."

At 1:45pm I sent this:

"Uh, protestors have pushed into the Capitol building. They're on the steps now."

At 1:52pm:

"They've breached it. F*ck."

I don't like Pelosi or Biden or Trump or the Democrats or Republicans or most politicians, but I do believe in our Constitution. What I saw live with my own eyes and heard with my own ears was a straight up rally to incite violence to overturn fair and free elections.

Trump deserves impeachment. If I'm a Senator, I'd convict.

READ THE ACTUAL TRANSCRIPT WHEN YOU FIND THE STATEMENT INCITING VIOLENCE SHARE IT.

Transcript Save America Rally January 6th.

(01-11-2021 02:37 PM)olliebaba Wrote:  

(01-11-2021 01:29 PM)Native Georgian Wrote:  

(01-11-2021 01:04 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  BTW has anyone in the MSM played the so called call to violence speech? You would think it would be plastered everywhere. It isn't.

Exactly. The lack of incriminating quotes/footage here really is like the dog that didn’t bark.

I didn’t watch Trump’s speech Wednesday and didn’t really know what he said or didn’t say. And by Thursday night, when all the liberals were screaming, I made a particular point to watch MSNBC because I knew they would be showing the “worst” parts of the speech in order to “prove” that Trump caused all the bad things to happen. After an hour of Joy Reid, an hour of Rachel Maddow, and an hour of Chris Hayes, I knew they had nothing.

"After an hour of Joy Reid, an hour of Rachel Maddow, and an hour of Chris Hayes, I knew they had nothing."

Oh my goeyness, you deserve a medal for all that suffering. I couldn't have done it. It would be like listening to fingernails on a blackboard for me.

In all that time, there was actually one (1) substantive interview that didn’t rely on talking-points. Chris Van Hollen, a US Sen. from Maryland, came on for a few minutes and while he clearly is deeply anti-Trump, at least I got the sense that he was coming from a non-fictional, non-hysterical point of view.

(01-11-2021 02:24 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  

(01-11-2021 02:14 PM)smudge12 Wrote:  

(01-11-2021 02:01 PM)solohawks Wrote:  You dont do what they did, especially when you don't have a sympathetic MSM.

They should face charges and pay the price for their foolish actions, but I agree with the sentiment that any idea that this was an armed insurrection is laughable.

It was armed. Some had mace, tasers, bludgeoning weapons, molitov cocktails, viable pipe bombs, and one dude had an entire truck full of weapons parked a few blocks away.

There was an active contingent trying to hunt down politicians, reporters were beat up, and obviously police were involved in hand-to-hand combat. Fire extinguishers were set off by insurrectionists to create clouds, which also damaged historic paintings and statues. There's recorded video and obviously social media posts that the intention was to overturn the election and takeover the Capitol.

I don't care as much about the people who wandered mindlessly into the Capitol, but the violent ones need to face severe consequences.

LOL sounds like Antifa.

Yes...and these QAnon moonbats. Clearly many of those arrested were followers of this craziness including the woman that got shot.

(01-11-2021 02:05 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(01-11-2021 01:50 PM)smudge12 Wrote:  And I'm telling you to watch the archived streams, from start to finish.

It didn't take 45 minutes for the first rally-goers to grow the amount of protestors already at the Capitol. Hell I regularly walk DC in the mornings (it's a beautiful city at sunrise) and it's never that long of a walk, and certainly not that long if streets were blocked off.

When the crowd reached a critical mass, things went south VERY quickly.

The article isn't going to gaslight me into believing something different than what I saw in real time happen. I watched the speech, I saw the livestream of people walking from the rally to the Capitol, I saw them overwhelm police. I have date/time texts of what I was seeing.

Its about 2 miles. That is a brisk 32 minute walk. 40 for most people. Probably longer in a crowd. Its a very long way to the Capitol.

Then why is your time line different from every other news outlet and time stamped tweet and live stream out there. I watched the outer ring get over whelmed at 1 pm. Trump was still speaking at that time. I did a quck search of videos, the first one I clicked on shows protesters already inside the capital at 1:32---less than 20 minutes after his remarks concluded. No way they heard Trump say go to the Capital, walk all the way there, overwhelm the outer ring, surround the capital, and breach the capital in less than 20 minutes. The fact is what happened at the capital was well underway before Trump said a word about marching on the Capital.
Here is another chronology by another source.


Wednesday’s assault on the U.S. Capitol by mobs of rioters incited by President Trump unfolded quickly and chaotically. At 12:53 p.m., the first Trump supporters reached the barricades in front of the capitol, demanding to be let through. The inexplicably small number of cops on the scene held the line at first, but were quickly overwhelmed. By 1:15 p.m., thousands of Trump extremists filled the steps and balconies of the Capitol. By 1:33 p.m., the insurrectionists breached the Capitol.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/video/tunedin/...i-BB1czd94

(01-11-2021 02:24 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  

(01-11-2021 02:14 PM)smudge12 Wrote:  

(01-11-2021 02:01 PM)solohawks Wrote:  You dont do what they did, especially when you don't have a sympathetic MSM.

They should face charges and pay the price for their foolish actions, but I agree with the sentiment that any idea that this was an armed insurrection is laughable.

It was armed. Some had mace, tasers, bludgeoning weapons, molitov cocktails, viable pipe bombs, and one dude had an entire truck full of weapons parked a few blocks away.

There was an active contingent trying to hunt down politicians, reporters were beat up, and obviously police were involved in hand-to-hand combat. Fire extinguishers were set off by insurrectionists to create clouds, which also damaged historic paintings and statues. There's recorded video and obviously social media posts that the intention was to overturn the election and takeover the Capitol.

I don't care as much about the people who wandered mindlessly into the Capitol, but the violent ones need to face severe consequences.

LOL sounds like Antifa.

Except that they would have pulled down the statues.