(01-11-2021 01:43 PM)No2rdame Wrote:  

(01-11-2021 01:36 PM)swagsurfer11 Wrote:  

(01-11-2021 10:16 AM)No2rdame Wrote:  

(01-11-2021 10:06 AM)MemTigers1998 Wrote:  Hope BLM rioters are on those lists too. Or can they even afford to fly?

They usually fly Spirit Airlines.

Many types of stereos in this thread.

Oh, my bad, the Soros funded black lies matter "peaceful protestors" probably charter a private jet and sip champagne en route to their destinations to burn, loot, and destroy.

I'm still waiting on my Soros check, dude isn't getting our money out very efficiently

(01-11-2021 02:08 PM)wmubroncopilot Wrote:  

(01-11-2021 10:25 AM)MemTigers1998 Wrote:  Once all said and done, I'd own me a nice little chunk of that airline.

LOL no you wouldn't. You have no inherent right to be allowed on someone's airplane.

So. You are saying it is perfectly fine for an airline to not board Blacks, Jews, Catholics or disabled folks? Airlines aren't the Government.

(01-11-2021 02:10 PM)Eagleaidaholic Wrote:  

(01-11-2021 02:08 PM)wmubroncopilot Wrote:  

(01-11-2021 10:25 AM)MemTigers1998 Wrote:  Once all said and done, I'd own me a nice little chunk of that airline.

LOL no you wouldn't. You have no inherent right to be allowed on someone's airplane.

So. You are saying it is perfectly fine for an airline to not board Blacks, Jews, Catholics or disabled folks? Airlines aren't the Government.

Trump cultists aren't a protected class

(01-11-2021 02:11 PM)wmubroncopilot Wrote:  

(01-11-2021 02:10 PM)Eagleaidaholic Wrote:  

(01-11-2021 02:08 PM)wmubroncopilot Wrote:  

(01-11-2021 10:25 AM)MemTigers1998 Wrote:  Once all said and done, I'd own me a nice little chunk of that airline.

LOL no you wouldn't. You have no inherent right to be allowed on someone's airplane.

So. You are saying it is perfectly fine for an airline to not board Blacks, Jews, Catholics or disabled folks? Airlines aren't the Government.

Trump cultists aren't a protected class

EVERYONE is part of "a protected class".

Eh... I'm all for the airlines doing whatever they want, as long as the taxpayers no longer have to bail them out.

(01-11-2021 02:10 PM)wmubroncopilot Wrote:  

(01-11-2021 01:43 PM)No2rdame Wrote:  

(01-11-2021 01:36 PM)swagsurfer11 Wrote:  

(01-11-2021 10:16 AM)No2rdame Wrote:  

(01-11-2021 10:06 AM)MemTigers1998 Wrote:  Hope BLM rioters are on those lists too. Or can they even afford to fly?

They usually fly Spirit Airlines.

Many types of stereos in this thread.

Oh, my bad, the Soros funded black lies matter "peaceful protestors" probably charter a private jet and sip champagne en route to their destinations to burn, loot, and destroy.

I'm still waiting on my Soros check, dude isn't getting our money out very efficiently

Well then you're just a dumb@ss if you buy into the black lies matter narrative.

(01-11-2021 10:36 AM)Morkai Wrote:  Not clear this is government imposed, I think it's very likely the airlines themselves. Plenty of evidence of unruly Trump supporters ignoring airline carriage policies over the last week. Time for the party of "personal responsibility" to face the repercussions of their actions.

You gonna take “personal responsibility” for the riots, looting, assaults, killings, fabricating lies to remove a sitting president, etc. etc. your party is responsible for over the length of the Trump presidency, literally from day one?

(01-11-2021 02:13 PM)Eagleaidaholic Wrote:  

(01-11-2021 02:11 PM)wmubroncopilot Wrote:  

(01-11-2021 02:10 PM)Eagleaidaholic Wrote:  

(01-11-2021 02:08 PM)wmubroncopilot Wrote:  

(01-11-2021 10:25 AM)MemTigers1998 Wrote:  Once all said and done, I'd own me a nice little chunk of that airline.

LOL no you wouldn't. You have no inherent right to be allowed on someone's airplane.

So. You are saying it is perfectly fine for an airline to not board Blacks, Jews, Catholics or disabled folks? Airlines aren't the Government.

Trump cultists aren't a protected class

EVERYONE is part of "a protected class".

Serious answer: If you think people being kicked off an airplane for their behavior is in any way comparable to being kicked off for their religion or skin color, then you have very little understanding of the law or the aviation industry.

This is my industry. The captain as well as the airline has the ultimate authority to deny boarding or remove someone for safety reasons. If it turns out there is a pattern of a person or the company doing so for racially or politically motivated reasons that will be dealt with through firing or legal means.

If we were kicking out everyone who wore a Trump hat then we'd have a different issue.

(01-11-2021 02:17 PM)450bench Wrote:  

(01-11-2021 10:36 AM)Morkai Wrote:  Not clear this is government imposed, I think it's very likely the airlines themselves. Plenty of evidence of unruly Trump supporters ignoring airline carriage policies over the last week. Time for the party of "personal responsibility" to face the repercussions of their actions.

You gonna take “personal responsibility” for the riots, looting, assaults, killings, fabricating lies to remove a sitting president, etc. etc. your party is responsible for over the length of the Trump presidency, literally from day one?

Rhetorical question, we already know the answer. The left pretends like none of that ever happened.

(01-11-2021 02:11 PM)wmubroncopilot Wrote:  

(01-11-2021 02:10 PM)Eagleaidaholic Wrote:  

(01-11-2021 02:08 PM)wmubroncopilot Wrote:  

(01-11-2021 10:25 AM)MemTigers1998 Wrote:  Once all said and done, I'd own me a nice little chunk of that airline.

LOL no you wouldn't. You have no inherent right to be allowed on someone's airplane.

So. You are saying it is perfectly fine for an airline to not board Blacks, Jews, Catholics or disabled folks? Airlines aren't the Government.

Trump cultists aren't a protected class

Protected class. How damn embarrassing. You think it's a badge of honor. Nah most Trump supporters dont need special attention. They dont need to be protected. They protect themselves

(01-11-2021 02:21 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(01-11-2021 02:11 PM)wmubroncopilot Wrote:  

(01-11-2021 02:10 PM)Eagleaidaholic Wrote:  

(01-11-2021 02:08 PM)wmubroncopilot Wrote:  

(01-11-2021 10:25 AM)MemTigers1998 Wrote:  Once all said and done, I'd own me a nice little chunk of that airline.

LOL no you wouldn't. You have no inherent right to be allowed on someone's airplane.

So. You are saying it is perfectly fine for an airline to not board Blacks, Jews, Catholics or disabled folks? Airlines aren't the Government.

Trump cultists aren't a protected class

Protected class. How damn embarrassing. You think it's a badge of honor. Nah most Trump supporters dont need special attention. They dont need to be protected. They protect themselves

We don't all yearn for the 1950s

(01-11-2021 02:18 PM)wmubroncopilot Wrote:  

(01-11-2021 02:13 PM)Eagleaidaholic Wrote:  

(01-11-2021 02:11 PM)wmubroncopilot Wrote:  

(01-11-2021 02:10 PM)Eagleaidaholic Wrote:  

(01-11-2021 02:08 PM)wmubroncopilot Wrote:  LOL no you wouldn't. You have no inherent right to be allowed on someone's airplane.

So. You are saying it is perfectly fine for an airline to not board Blacks, Jews, Catholics or disabled folks? Airlines aren't the Government.

Trump cultists aren't a protected class

EVERYONE is part of "a protected class".

Serious answer: If you think people being kicked off an airplane for their behavior is in any way comparable to being kicked off for their religion or skin color, then you have very little understanding of the law or the aviation industry.

This is my industry. The captain as well as the airline has the ultimate authority to deny boarding or remove someone for safety reasons. If it turns out there is a pattern of a person or the company doing so for racially or politically motivated reasons that will be dealt with through firing or legal means.

If we were kicking out everyone who wore a Trump hat then we'd have a different issue.

You obviously didn't read the OP link. I will quote the only thing that needs to be repeated for you Mr. Airline. It has nothing to do with what someone is doing on a plane.

Quote:Last Thursday, January 7, Bennie G. Thompson, Chairman of the House Committee on Homeland Security, called upon the Transportation Security Administration (TSA) and the FBI to place rioters on no-fly lists.

Amazing how Leftists try to turn a thread into something that they can try to validate. Let me know how many Antifa and BLM looters and rioters are on No Fly lists because of their actions without proof. American taxpayers are being put on No Fly lists.

(01-11-2021 02:02 PM)smudge12 Wrote:  I think we need to heavily reform the no-fly list and make it a lot more transparent. There needs to be some due process involved at the federal level instead of blanket-labeling people as terrorists or whatever.

That said, I'm fine when airlines choose not to do business with certain people if they break rules, delay flights, endanger others. I'm fine if they want to share those lists with other airlines. Actions should have consequences.

Those 'consequences' could have a real negative effect on their bottom lines. I'm fine with conservatives getting together and refusing to fly any longer on those airlines who want to go down this road. As a business model, antagonizing half of the potential flying public isn't a great strategy. If people chanting, "USA!" bothers you so much, don't fly. If it bothers the flight crew so much, perhaps they need to find another job. It sounds like it just annoyed them. If what they were doing was definitively endangering flight safety, that is another conversation entirely. I have seen nor heard any such thing.

Just wait until cancel culture gets worse. What lefties don't realize is that this CAN backfire on them once the tables get turned. THEY themselves might find it hard to do business as usual once some on the right who own businesses decide to respond in kind.

(01-11-2021 02:30 PM)Eagleaidaholic Wrote:  

(01-11-2021 02:18 PM)wmubroncopilot Wrote:  

(01-11-2021 02:13 PM)Eagleaidaholic Wrote:  

(01-11-2021 02:11 PM)wmubroncopilot Wrote:  

(01-11-2021 02:10 PM)Eagleaidaholic Wrote:  So. You are saying it is perfectly fine for an airline to not board Blacks, Jews, Catholics or disabled folks? Airlines aren't the Government.

Trump cultists aren't a protected class

EVERYONE is part of "a protected class".

Serious answer: If you think people being kicked off an airplane for their behavior is in any way comparable to being kicked off for their religion or skin color, then you have very little understanding of the law or the aviation industry.

This is my industry. The captain as well as the airline has the ultimate authority to deny boarding or remove someone for safety reasons. If it turns out there is a pattern of a person or the company doing so for racially or politically motivated reasons that will be dealt with through firing or legal means.

If we were kicking out everyone who wore a Trump hat then we'd have a different issue.

You obviously didn't read the OP link. I will quote the only thing that needs to be repeated for you Mr. Airline. It has nothing to do with what someone is doing on a plane.

Quote:Last Thursday, January 7, Bennie G. Thompson, Chairman of the House Committee on Homeland Security, called upon the Transportation Security Administration (TSA) and the FBI to place rioters on no-fly lists.

Amazing how Leftists try to turn a thread into something that they can try to validate. Let me know how many Antifa and BLM looters and rioters are on No Fly lists because of their actions without proof. American taxpayers are being put on No Fly lists.

2 separate issues here. First is that there is no evidence the videos circling around show these people were actually on a government no fly list. In fact they were already through security, and the no fly list would've caught them at the TSA checkpoint. Link from non-MSM since people don't care for MSM here, but other sources say the same:

https://viewfromthewing.com/fact-check-t...ill-riots/

It appears that these people were in fact kicked off for refusing to wear masks or other rowdiness. I know Alaska Airlines barred 14 people for future flights for their behavior on a flight out of DC. They (or at least some of them) were involved at the Capitol but that's not why they were barred.

Your link doesn't say people are being added to the no-fly list, it just includes a government member calling for it.

Second is the debate on whether people should be able to go on a government no-fly list for this. Tough call, but I don't have an issue with airlines that catch wind of this behavior denying access. Should they be compelled to take someone if they learn they just robbed a bank?

(01-11-2021 02:28 PM)wmubroncopilot Wrote:  

(01-11-2021 02:21 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(01-11-2021 02:11 PM)wmubroncopilot Wrote:  

(01-11-2021 02:10 PM)Eagleaidaholic Wrote:  

(01-11-2021 02:08 PM)wmubroncopilot Wrote:  LOL no you wouldn't. You have no inherent right to be allowed on someone's airplane.

So. You are saying it is perfectly fine for an airline to not board Blacks, Jews, Catholics or disabled folks? Airlines aren't the Government.

Trump cultists aren't a protected class

Protected class. How damn embarrassing. You think it's a badge of honor. Nah most Trump supporters dont need special attention. They dont need to be protected. They protect themselves

We don't all yearn for the 1950s

How old are you? 15?

(01-11-2021 02:50 PM)MileHighBronco Wrote:  

(01-11-2021 02:02 PM)smudge12 Wrote:  I think we need to heavily reform the no-fly list and make it a lot more transparent. There needs to be some due process involved at the federal level instead of blanket-labeling people as terrorists or whatever.

That said, I'm fine when airlines choose not to do business with certain people if they break rules, delay flights, endanger others. I'm fine if they want to share those lists with other airlines. Actions should have consequences.

Those 'consequences' could have a real negative effect on their bottom lines. I'm fine with conservatives getting together and refusing to fly any longer on those airlines who want to go down this road. As a business model, antagonizing half of the potential flying public isn't a great strategy. If people chanting, "USA!" bothers you so much, don't fly. If it bothers the flight crew so much, perhaps they need to find another job. It sounds like it just annoyed them. If what they were doing was definitively endangering flight safety, that is another conversation entirely. I have seen nor heard any such thing.

Just wait until cancel culture gets worse. What lefties don't realize is that this CAN backfire on them once the tables get turned. THEY themselves might find it hard to do business as usual once some on the right who own businesses decide to respond in kind.

If you want to be loud and rowdy on a plane, go find a charter plane without the general public on board with you. Rowdy behavior is both annoying to everyone else who may want to sleep, focus on work etc, and can be detrimental to safety if crewmembers need to give orders or if it escalates to confrontations. And if it's annoying tbe pilots, I'm not sure you really want annoyed and distracted pilots flying your plane.

Conservatives boycotting would be bad for business, sure, but so is having a reputation of allowing people to yell and chant sh!t in the middle of a flight.

(01-11-2021 03:05 PM)wmubroncopilot Wrote:  

(01-11-2021 02:50 PM)MileHighBronco Wrote:  

(01-11-2021 02:02 PM)smudge12 Wrote:  I think we need to heavily reform the no-fly list and make it a lot more transparent. There needs to be some due process involved at the federal level instead of blanket-labeling people as terrorists or whatever.

That said, I'm fine when airlines choose not to do business with certain people if they break rules, delay flights, endanger others. I'm fine if they want to share those lists with other airlines. Actions should have consequences.

Those 'consequences' could have a real negative effect on their bottom lines. I'm fine with conservatives getting together and refusing to fly any longer on those airlines who want to go down this road. As a business model, antagonizing half of the potential flying public isn't a great strategy. If people chanting, "USA!" bothers you so much, don't fly. If it bothers the flight crew so much, perhaps they need to find another job. It sounds like it just annoyed them. If what they were doing was definitively endangering flight safety, that is another conversation entirely. I have seen nor heard any such thing.

Just wait until cancel culture gets worse. What lefties don't realize is that this CAN backfire on them once the tables get turned. THEY themselves might find it hard to do business as usual once some on the right who own businesses decide to respond in kind.

If you want to be loud and rowdy on a plane, go find a charter plane without the general public on board with you. Rowdy behavior is both annoying to everyone else who may want to sleep, focus on work etc, and can be detrimental to safety if crewmembers need to give orders or if it escalates to confrontations. And if it's annoying tbe pilots, I'm not sure you really want annoyed and distracted pilots flying your plane.

Conservatives boycotting would be bad for business, sure, but so is having a reputation of allowing people to yell and chant sh!t in the middle of a flight.

You've obviously never been on a flight to an NFL city on a Sunday morning before a home game.

(01-11-2021 02:10 PM)wmubroncopilot Wrote:  

(01-11-2021 01:43 PM)No2rdame Wrote:  

(01-11-2021 01:36 PM)swagsurfer11 Wrote:  

(01-11-2021 10:16 AM)No2rdame Wrote:  

(01-11-2021 10:06 AM)MemTigers1998 Wrote:  Hope BLM rioters are on those lists too. Or can they even afford to fly?

They usually fly Spirit Airlines.

Many types of stereos in this thread.

Oh, my bad, the Soros funded black lies matter "peaceful protestors" probably charter a private jet and sip champagne en route to their destinations to burn, loot, and destroy.

I'm still waiting on my Soros check, dude isn't getting our money out very efficiently

Contact HR at Antifa.com and let them know. There was a mix up in the system when trying to log in the cans of soup (for our families), messed up a lot of things up.

(01-11-2021 03:09 PM)Eagleaidaholic Wrote:  

(01-11-2021 03:05 PM)wmubroncopilot Wrote:  

(01-11-2021 02:50 PM)MileHighBronco Wrote:  

(01-11-2021 02:02 PM)smudge12 Wrote:  I think we need to heavily reform the no-fly list and make it a lot more transparent. There needs to be some due process involved at the federal level instead of blanket-labeling people as terrorists or whatever.

That said, I'm fine when airlines choose not to do business with certain people if they break rules, delay flights, endanger others. I'm fine if they want to share those lists with other airlines. Actions should have consequences.

Those 'consequences' could have a real negative effect on their bottom lines. I'm fine with conservatives getting together and refusing to fly any longer on those airlines who want to go down this road. As a business model, antagonizing half of the potential flying public isn't a great strategy. If people chanting, "USA!" bothers you so much, don't fly. If it bothers the flight crew so much, perhaps they need to find another job. It sounds like it just annoyed them. If what they were doing was definitively endangering flight safety, that is another conversation entirely. I have seen nor heard any such thing.

Just wait until cancel culture gets worse. What lefties don't realize is that this CAN backfire on them once the tables get turned. THEY themselves might find it hard to do business as usual once some on the right who own businesses decide to respond in kind.

If you want to be loud and rowdy on a plane, go find a charter plane without the general public on board with you. Rowdy behavior is both annoying to everyone else who may want to sleep, focus on work etc, and can be detrimental to safety if crewmembers need to give orders or if it escalates to confrontations. And if it's annoying tbe pilots, I'm not sure you really want annoyed and distracted pilots flying your plane.

Conservatives boycotting would be bad for business, sure, but so is having a reputation of allowing people to yell and chant sh!t in the middle of a flight.

You've obviously never been on a flight to an NFL city on a Sunday morning before a home game.

Have many times. Have never seen behavior like what's being described, especially not during the flight. Before and after, while still on the plane, maybe.

If it does happen, and it rises to the level of distracting and agitating others on the flight including pilots and crewmembers then they'd be at risk of getting booted too.

Outside of the EEOC, protected classes generally don’t apply to wholly private businesses unless you make wedding cakes.