(11-04-2020 02:01 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(11-04-2020 01:58 PM)UTSAMarineVet09 Wrote:  

(11-04-2020 01:43 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(11-04-2020 01:14 PM)UTSAMarineVet09 Wrote:  Trump is going to request a recount in WI...

I believe if the margin is more than .25%, trump has to pay for it to the tune of around 3 million dollars.

Bottom line, they better request the money up front!

chump change for his campaign...

You sure about that? There were many reports they were next to broke...and while trump may be wealthy, his money is tied up in RE...and he donated next to nothing to this campaign this time around.

sorry, a vice or mother jones article doesn't count...

(11-04-2020 02:02 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(11-04-2020 02:00 PM)fsquid Wrote:  Will the pollsters be in this week's unemployment number or next week?

God, I hope so.

Read some stuff today that even the pollsters at the local levels that campaigns from both parties trusted were way off.

I think it's just that people this day and age just don't want to truthfully talk to pollsters.

Well Tom that is because there is no confidentiality with a cell phone or land line when that number is associated with your name. Therefore all polling falls into the "None of your damn business!" category. The same is true for online polls, which is why I participate in none of them and haven't ever. So I don't think pollsters should be used period. Let the ground teams of the campaigns figure out the lean based on conversations in door to door canvassing.

(11-04-2020 02:02 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(11-04-2020 02:00 PM)fsquid Wrote:  Will the pollsters be in this week's unemployment number or next week?

God, I hope so.

Read some stuff today that even the pollsters at the local levels that campaigns from both parties trusted were way off.

I think it's just that people this day and age just don't want to truthfully talk to pollsters.

I agree. Given the immense proven inaccuracy of polls, it gives huge credence to the conservative argument that discussion topics and narratives driven by the media are based on polls.....i.e. Trump isn't popular, women hate him, minorities hate him, everyone hates his tweets, Americans favor Roe vs Wade, gun control, etc. etc. etc. Much of the media drive their narratives based on faulty polls.

(11-04-2020 01:58 PM)Eagleaidaholic Wrote:  

(11-04-2020 01:52 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

Quote:Wisconsin has not counted more votes than it has registered voters. This tweet is comparing the vote count from 2020 with the number of registered voters from 2018. When we take a look at Wisconsin’s current total of registered voters, we see that there is nothing fraudulent about the state’s count.

According to the Wisconsin Election Commission, the “State of Wisconsin had 3,684,726 active registered voters on November 1, 2020.” It’s unclear where the “3,239,920” number shown in the above-displayed tweet comes from. As of this writing, The New York Times reports that a total of “3,296,836” votes have been cast in Wisconsin. In either case, the number of votes counted does not exceed the number of registered voters.

No, Wisconsin Did Not Count More Votes Than Registered Voters in 2020

Correct. It is currently at 88% voter turnout with 95% of the vote in. So it can be estimated that there will be a 90% voter turnout once all of the votes are counted. No way in Holy Hell. Must have been a lot of Russian votes cast. There is an estimated 4.5million citizens of voting age in the state total. If all eligible voting age citizens voted in this election that would still be currently a 72% voter turnout with 95% of votes cast. In 2016 there was a 67% turnout.

This was the most important election of my lifetime. Biden got more votes than any candidate in history.

Just because you can't believe or explain something doesn't make it fake.

just looking through the backup for RCP and 528, every poll they had reported Biden up at least 3.5% nationally. It's going to come in under 2%

Trump may be short of one electoral college. That NEB-2 is killing him.

(11-04-2020 02:06 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(11-04-2020 02:02 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(11-04-2020 02:00 PM)fsquid Wrote:  Will the pollsters be in this week's unemployment number or next week?

God, I hope so.

Read some stuff today that even the pollsters at the local levels that campaigns from both parties trusted were way off.

I think it's just that people this day and age just don't want to truthfully talk to pollsters.

Well Tom that is because there is no confidentiality with a cell phone or land line when that number is associated with your name. Therefore all polling falls into the "None of your damn business!" category. The same is true for online polls, which is why I participate in none of them and haven't ever. So I don't think pollsters should be used period. Let the ground teams of the campaigns figure out the lean based on conversations in door to door canvassing.

Yeah. Although the name and confidentially vs. phone number is largely irrelevant. They ask you questions about yourself and your opinions. The bigger problem is that people are fed up with telemarketing type calls which are what polling calls basically equate to. So they either lie or hang up.

(11-04-2020 02:07 PM)fsquid Wrote:  just looking through the backup for RCP and 528, every poll they had reported Biden up at least 3.5% nationally. It's going to come in under 2%

Hold on their sailor. I believe CA and NY have a TON of votes yet to count.

Well, Jane Fonda did say that Covid is "Gods gift to the Left"

(11-04-2020 02:06 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(11-04-2020 01:58 PM)Eagleaidaholic Wrote:  

(11-04-2020 01:52 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

Quote:Wisconsin has not counted more votes than it has registered voters. This tweet is comparing the vote count from 2020 with the number of registered voters from 2018. When we take a look at Wisconsin’s current total of registered voters, we see that there is nothing fraudulent about the state’s count.

According to the Wisconsin Election Commission, the “State of Wisconsin had 3,684,726 active registered voters on November 1, 2020.” It’s unclear where the “3,239,920” number shown in the above-displayed tweet comes from. As of this writing, The New York Times reports that a total of “3,296,836” votes have been cast in Wisconsin. In either case, the number of votes counted does not exceed the number of registered voters.

No, Wisconsin Did Not Count More Votes Than Registered Voters in 2020

Correct. It is currently at 88% voter turnout with 95% of the vote in. So it can be estimated that there will be a 90% voter turnout once all of the votes are counted. No way in Holy Hell. Must have been a lot of Russian votes cast. There is an estimated 4.5million citizens of voting age in the state total. If all eligible voting age citizens voted in this election that would still be currently a 72% voter turnout with 95% of votes cast. In 2016 there was a 67% turnout.

This was the most important election of my lifetime. Biden got more votes than any candidate in history.

Just because you can't believe or explain something doesn't make it fake.

No one said anything about it being "fake". It makes it extremely suspicious. Also, how many "registered voters" died since the last election and since they registered? The ACTUAL number of registered voters is always less than the municipality has on record for those reasons.

CNN calls WI for Biden

(11-04-2020 02:05 PM)UTSAMarineVet09 Wrote:  

(11-04-2020 02:01 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(11-04-2020 01:58 PM)UTSAMarineVet09 Wrote:  

(11-04-2020 01:43 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(11-04-2020 01:14 PM)UTSAMarineVet09 Wrote:  Trump is going to request a recount in WI...

I believe if the margin is more than .25%, trump has to pay for it to the tune of around 3 million dollars.

Bottom line, they better request the money up front!

chump change for his campaign...

You sure about that? There were many reports they were next to broke...and while trump may be wealthy, his money is tied up in RE...and he donated next to nothing to this campaign this time around.

sorry, a vice or mother jones article doesn't count...

Don't read MJ.
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/52...ion-sprint
https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2020/10/...-cash-woes
https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-ca...ay-2020-10

(11-04-2020 02:11 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(11-04-2020 02:07 PM)fsquid Wrote:  just looking through the backup for RCP and 528, every poll they had reported Biden up at least 3.5% nationally. It's going to come in under 2%

Hold on their sailor. I believe CA and NY have a TON of votes yet to count.

thought CAli was at 80%

Still haven't found NE 2 vote for president. R is ahead in US house race 51-46 with 99% reporting. Can't imagine Trump being that far behind in Nebraska.

They reversed the call for ME-2 in the House, but not for president. Still, the D is up 53-47 with 95%, so don't think Trump will win that one.

(11-04-2020 02:13 PM)Eagleaidaholic Wrote:  

(11-04-2020 02:06 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(11-04-2020 01:58 PM)Eagleaidaholic Wrote:  

(11-04-2020 01:52 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

Quote:Wisconsin has not counted more votes than it has registered voters. This tweet is comparing the vote count from 2020 with the number of registered voters from 2018. When we take a look at Wisconsin’s current total of registered voters, we see that there is nothing fraudulent about the state’s count.

According to the Wisconsin Election Commission, the “State of Wisconsin had 3,684,726 active registered voters on November 1, 2020.” It’s unclear where the “3,239,920” number shown in the above-displayed tweet comes from. As of this writing, The New York Times reports that a total of “3,296,836” votes have been cast in Wisconsin. In either case, the number of votes counted does not exceed the number of registered voters.

No, Wisconsin Did Not Count More Votes Than Registered Voters in 2020

Correct. It is currently at 88% voter turnout with 95% of the vote in. So it can be estimated that there will be a 90% voter turnout once all of the votes are counted. No way in Holy Hell. Must have been a lot of Russian votes cast. There is an estimated 4.5million citizens of voting age in the state total. If all eligible voting age citizens voted in this election that would still be currently a 72% voter turnout with 95% of votes cast. In 2016 there was a 67% turnout.

This was the most important election of my lifetime. Biden got more votes than any candidate in history.

Just because you can't believe or explain something doesn't make it fake.

No one said anything about it being "fake". It makes it extremely suspicious. Also, how many "registered voters" died since the last election and since they registered? The ACTUAL number of registered voters is always less than the municipality has on record for those reasons.

No. It doesn't.

(11-04-2020 02:15 PM)fsquid Wrote:  

(11-04-2020 02:11 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(11-04-2020 02:07 PM)fsquid Wrote:  just looking through the backup for RCP and 528, every poll they had reported Biden up at least 3.5% nationally. It's going to come in under 2%

Hold on their sailor. I believe CA and NY have a TON of votes yet to count.

thought CAli was at 80%

Both in the 70's per bloomberg. But for CA, that's a lot still...and most are likely all mail in.

(11-04-2020 01:59 PM)maximus Wrote:  

(11-04-2020 01:54 PM)oruvoice Wrote:  

(11-04-2020 01:52 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

Quote:Wisconsin has not counted more votes than it has registered voters. This tweet is comparing the vote count from 2020 with the number of registered voters from 2018. When we take a look at Wisconsin’s current total of registered voters, we see that there is nothing fraudulent about the state’s count.

According to the Wisconsin Election Commission, the “State of Wisconsin had 3,684,726 active registered voters on November 1, 2020.” It’s unclear where the “3,239,920” number shown in the above-displayed tweet comes from. As of this writing, The New York Times reports that a total of “3,296,836” votes have been cast in Wisconsin. In either case, the number of votes counted does not exceed the number of registered voters.

No, Wisconsin Did Not Count More Votes Than Registered Voters in 2020

So, Wisconsin had 90% of registered voters, vote? Is that in line with turnout across the nation?

No way in hell is it in line

That would be a historical number



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disclaimer: the following is not directed at you....it backs your point

did anyone take statistics and NOT have to pass on the 'curve'...

hint: it's statistically impossible

I reckon I shouldn't be surprised how sig line 4 applies on a daily basis...

yeah, I'm madder than a swarm of yellow jackets...sorry gts, your's suck...

ABC just "un-called" Arizona for Biden.

Wisconsin just called for Biden

(11-04-2020 02:03 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(11-04-2020 01:59 PM)maximus Wrote:  

(11-04-2020 01:54 PM)oruvoice Wrote:  

(11-04-2020 01:52 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

Quote:Wisconsin has not counted more votes than it has registered voters. This tweet is comparing the vote count from 2020 with the number of registered voters from 2018. When we take a look at Wisconsin’s current total of registered voters, we see that there is nothing fraudulent about the state’s count.

According to the Wisconsin Election Commission, the “State of Wisconsin had 3,684,726 active registered voters on November 1, 2020.” It’s unclear where the “3,239,920” number shown in the above-displayed tweet comes from. As of this writing, The New York Times reports that a total of “3,296,836” votes have been cast in Wisconsin. In either case, the number of votes counted does not exceed the number of registered voters.

No, Wisconsin Did Not Count More Votes Than Registered Voters in 2020

So, Wisconsin had 90% of registered voters, vote? Is that in line with turnout across the nation?

No way in hell is it in line

That would be a historical number



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It was a record for them. Also, they had over 91% of their absentee ballots returned before election day.
https://www.dailycardinal.com/article/20...l-election

So turnout nationwide is going to land in the mid 60% range.... and Wisconsin is going to be around 90% and you dont ask yourself the question of "How in the hell does that happen or even statistically make sense?"



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