As anti-catholic as the Liberty baptists tend to be, I find it amazing that the lefty snowflakes actually have me sympathizing with them.

So a college founded by methodists, calling themselves the orangemen for decades, is pissed at a religious school.

William of Orange is rolling over in his grave. Bring on Notre Dame and BYU but Liberty can frick off.

Confusing

If everyone stopped playing schools because their leaders were hypocrites there would be nobody left to play.

(08-19-2020 12:49 PM)EverRespect Wrote:  As anti-catholic as the Liberty baptists tend to be, I find it amazing that the lefty snowflakes actually have me sympathizing with them.

I'm not a baptist, but my beliefs are far closer to them than Catholic. Why? THE BIBLE.

Its important to remember that our disagreements are with the Vatican and the RCC doctrines, not with individual Catholics. We are all brothers in Christ.

As brothers its important to point out these doctrinal issues with love and respect.

After reading this thread I have come to the conclusion that SU fans should be mad at their AD, not ripping on Liberty.

Also a funny observation, why would any woke SJW even tolerate, let alone be a fan of football or most sports? It would seem that they would draw the easy parallel between the activity and the Mandingo fights of the slave era where blacks are sent into battle, risking injury and even death, to provide entertainment for the largely white, upperclass crowds that attend games. The fact that colleges bend rules to get so many of these kids in school to exploit them would, I think, be an issue also.

(08-19-2020 12:42 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  TBH financially I'd rather play Liberty than most of the ACC. Liberty fans travel, most of the ACC doesn't, so that means increased ticket sales.

They don't even fill up their tiny stadium. I doubt they travel in larger numbers.

(08-19-2020 08:33 AM)Statefan Wrote:  Christians are not being bashed.

Evangelical hypocrites are being bashed. There is all the difference in the world. The true Christian follows the word and spirit of Jesus without allowing him or herself to be dragged down by Old Testament "law", lies, and Paul's weirdness. Evangelic hypocrites tend to worship a prosperity gospel based on single translation of a book that whose entire first chapter ripped off the Sumerians and Babylonians.

There is a reason that the only in the Temple and only with the Rich man did Jesus loose his calm demeanor. The Temple was being profaned for profit and the Rich man already knew the way through the gates of Heaven but was not willing.

The line of evangelical hypocrites run from Jimmy Swaggart, Jim and Tammy Faye Baker, Ralph Reed, Jerry Falwell, Sr and especially Jr., and most sadly to Franklin Graham who must have been a great disappointment to his father. These bozos have driven millions of young Americans away from any Jesus-centered religion leaving them isolated and without any solid purpose.

Jesus would be more at home with honest sinners than insincere "Christians".

Evangelicals and the Prosperity gospel are two separate things. But then you are a bigot and so you lump lots of Christians together. "They all look alike."

(08-19-2020 02:01 PM)TexanMark Wrote:  

(08-19-2020 12:42 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  TBH financially I'd rather play Liberty than most of the ACC. Liberty fans travel, most of the ACC doesn't, so that means increased ticket sales.

They don't even fill up their tiny stadium. I doubt they travel in larger numbers.

There's a hell of a lot of Liberty graduates around the midlands of SC then. During the Big South baseball tournaments a few years back that they moved from Myrtle Beach to Lexington County's new ballpark they had a very large crowd, especially for the weekday games we attended.

After seeing how the majority of the ACC travels it's no doubt in my mind they could be worse. They'll certainly bring more than than the couple bus loads that come from Duke or UVA, and will probably match the "awesome" travelling fan base we were promised with Syracuse. Of course like every other promise made about Syracuse football when they were added it hasn't materialized so it's hard to tell.

(08-16-2020 09:07 PM)TexanMark Wrote:  I'm tired of the Liberty bashing

Frankly our AD should have kept his comments private.

Liberty met guidelines so far.

SU is going full woke mode

https://www.dailywire.com/news/syracuse-...benshapiro

Wow. Time for alumni to speak out against these threats to force people to become informers. Straight out witchhunt. Horrible environment for students.

Damn. Anyone could make up anything about anyone else they wanted to. And that's going to be enough to get someone expelled?

Who on earth would risk going there these days?

Calling out others on being hypocrites is necessary, though it is also a slippery slope.

Tread carefully if you don't have the Will of God on your side.

WHY, the fixation with Liberty? Why not BYU as well? If you're going to hate on religious schools hate them all.

(08-19-2020 04:54 PM)THE NC Herd Fan Wrote:  WHY, the fixation with Liberty? Why not BYU as well? If you're going to hate on religious schools hate them all.

Because Kevin Worthen isn't a very public Trump ally.

(08-19-2020 05:21 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(08-19-2020 04:54 PM)THE NC Herd Fan Wrote:  WHY, the fixation with Liberty? Why not BYU as well? If you're going to hate on religious schools hate them all.

Because Kevin Worthen isn't a very public Trump ally.

Also Liberty with its huge online program is a threat to their model. BYU at least looks a lot like other universities.

Plus, its common to hate conservative Christians. Mormons tend to be nice, so while they hate them too, its harder to be as public about it.

(08-19-2020 05:30 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(08-19-2020 05:21 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(08-19-2020 04:54 PM)THE NC Herd Fan Wrote:  WHY, the fixation with Liberty? Why not BYU as well? If you're going to hate on religious schools hate them all.

Because Kevin Worthen isn't a very public Trump ally.

Also Liberty with its huge online program is a threat to their model. BYU at least looks a lot like other universities.

Plus, its common to hate conservative Christians. Mormons tend to be nice, so while they hate them too, its harder to be as public about it.

Mormons still face discrimination theve just been around longer. The prog filth lgwbt bunch put a target on liberty early so it's the cool thing to do in prog filth circles. They always try to destroy those that dont think "correctly". Sheep gonna sheep.

(08-19-2020 02:10 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(08-19-2020 02:01 PM)TexanMark Wrote:  

(08-19-2020 12:42 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  TBH financially I'd rather play Liberty than most of the ACC. Liberty fans travel, most of the ACC doesn't, so that means increased ticket sales.

They don't even fill up their tiny stadium. I doubt they travel in larger numbers.

There's a hell of a lot of Liberty graduates around the midlands of SC then. During the Big South baseball tournaments a few years back that they moved from Myrtle Beach to Lexington County's new ballpark they had a very large crowd, especially for the weekday games we attended.

After seeing how the majority of the ACC travels it's no doubt in my mind they could be worse. They'll certainly bring more than than the couple bus loads that come from Duke or UVA, and will probably match the "awesome" travelling fan base we were promised with Syracuse. Of course like every other promise made about Syracuse football when they were added it hasn't materialized so it's hard to tell.

We have given Clemson some of their tougher games. How many ACC teams have beaten Clemson the last few years? Cuse, Pitt,???

Syracuse travels better than a bunch of ACC teams. Heck we are getting A/C for you guys. LOL

Wait, Syracuse has a football team?

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(08-16-2020 08:39 AM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  Largely agree with the above and would add:

1) Diversity has become a political football and the dictionary definition is different than the current political zeitgeist definition which is far more unsavory. Define at length what you mean by diversity.

2) That's an explosive charge, what is it referencing?

My understanding was that 2 black football players from the Richmond area wanted the team to participate in virtue signaling supporting BLM after the George Floyd tragedy. And the school did not allow it.

(08-19-2020 07:56 PM)ODUsmitty Wrote:  

(08-16-2020 08:39 AM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  Largely agree with the above and would add:

1) Diversity has become a political football and the dictionary definition is different than the current political zeitgeist definition which is far more unsavory. Define at length what you mean by diversity.

2) That's an explosive charge, what is it referencing?

My understanding was that 2 black football players from the Richmond area wanted the team to participate in virtue signaling supporting BLM after the George Floyd tragedy. And the school did not allow it.

Leik oh em gee! How dare they!

Again, because they don't agree with the left, they're called evil. What horsecrap!

(08-19-2020 07:33 PM)EverRespect Wrote:  Wait, Syracuse has a football team?

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At an average of 2.7 conference wins per year since joining the ACC it's debatable. Dino Babers has only been head coach at Syracuse four years and he's already lost more conference games (20) than Dabo Swinney has in twelve (16).

But they once beat Clemson. At home on a Friday night in a game where the starting QB got knocked out so they are a football power. Just ask their fans.