(07-28-2020 02:22 PM)mturn017 Wrote: j/k That was pretty cringeworthy, it wasn't even natural. I bet you $10 he had "Wag Finger" written at that spot on his speech notes.
(07-28-2020 10:18 AM)Monarchblue Wrote: You don't think that a bunch of young people that are jobless and have been pent up for months while living in a state of constant anxiety perpetuated by the media could lead to unrest and ultimately this huge uptick in murders that we are seeing?
Some of you have been telling me for 140 pages that young people are going to do what they want to do no matter what the governor says. Is that true or not?
FWIW, the umemployment rate is 11%. Anectdotal evidence, but I don't know of anyone that is still out of work.
What if what they want to do is go to work?
So because they want to go to work and cant, they go and murder people? Just by coincidence, if that is right, who's to say they wouldn't murder people for other silly reasons? Cmon man, think logically.
You, the person who keeps scoffing at experts because, presumably, you know more than them, telling people to think logically may be the most hilarious thing that has happened on this board all week.
No, I will never claim that I know more than experts. But, you have to actually support your viewpoint with actual experts.
(07-28-2020 10:28 AM)Gilesfan Wrote: Some of you have been telling me for 140 pages that young people are going to do what they want to do no matter what the governor says. Is that true or not?
FWIW, the umemployment rate is 11%. Anectdotal evidence, but I don't know of anyone that is still out of work.
What if what they want to do is go to work?
So because they want to go to work and cant, they go and murder people? Just by coincidence, if that is right, who's to say they wouldn't murder people for other silly reasons? Cmon man, think logically.
You, the person who keeps scoffing at experts because, presumably, you know more than them, telling people to think logically may be the most hilarious thing that has happened on this board all week.
No, I will never claim that I know more than experts. But, you have to actually support your viewpoint with actual experts.
CDC, JAMA-Pediatrics, Infectious Disease expert - Dartmouth, UK SAGE Comittee Expert, and several others that I have sited don't qualify? Which experts have you sited on anything... besides yourself, of course.
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Did a little digging to see who these people are and also went to reddit because I knew there would be some websleuths on there.
I would like the Dr. Immanuel to prove that she has treated 350 patients. She listed 3 facilities on here proflie but 1) she was never affiliated, 2) she worked at the facility at some point but no one confirmed when, and 3) she never worked at.
The Americas Frontline Doctor was formed on July 16th as a right wing advocacy group.
Why in the heck did they do a press conference in front of 6 people?
The interesting debate into hydroxycholoroquine is that these doctors have small samples of cases where they believe the drug worked. If 99% of people survive COVID, did they survive because of the drug or did they survive because thats what the majority of people do?
This is why clinical trials are way more important. They don't confuse causation with correlation. It discerning that smart people believe this bull**** conspiracy theory.
Those doctors seemed to me like a bunch of quacks. The first one, when she spoke, I literally thought it was Miss South Carolina from the pageant a few years back talking about maps.
Social distance hangout with a doctor tonight. He said hydroxy is fine as a drug if you are a teenager with no issues. But if you are on blood thinner or you have any number of other issues, the drug is very bad for you. FWIW. (He did say I may be fine as a 40 year old taking it if I dont have any other underlying issues).
(07-28-2020 10:28 AM)Gilesfan Wrote: Some of you have been telling me for 140 pages that young people are going to do what they want to do no matter what the governor says. Is that true or not?
FWIW, the umemployment rate is 11%. Anectdotal evidence, but I don't know of anyone that is still out of work.
What if what they want to do is go to work?
So because they want to go to work and cant, they go and murder people? Just by coincidence, if that is right, who's to say they wouldn't murder people for other silly reasons? Cmon man, think logically.
You, the person who keeps scoffing at experts because, presumably, you know more than them, telling people to think logically may be the most hilarious thing that has happened on this board all week.
No, I will never claim that I know more than experts. But, you have to actually support your viewpoint with actual experts.
More expert for you:
"Center for Disease Control Director Robert Redfield testified in a Buck Institute webinar that suicides and drug overdoses have surpassed the death rate for COVID-19. Redfield argued that lockdowns and lack of public schooling constituted a disproportionally negative impact on young peoples’ mental health.
“We’re seeing, sadly, far greater suicides now than we are deaths from COVID. We’re seeing far greater deaths from drug overdose that are above excess that we had as background than we are seeing the deaths from COVID,” he said."
(07-28-2020 11:57 AM)Monarchblue Wrote: What if what they want to do is go to work?
So because they want to go to work and cant, they go and murder people? Just by coincidence, if that is right, who's to say they wouldn't murder people for other silly reasons? Cmon man, think logically.
You, the person who keeps scoffing at experts because, presumably, you know more than them, telling people to think logically may be the most hilarious thing that has happened on this board all week.
No, I will never claim that I know more than experts. But, you have to actually support your viewpoint with actual experts.
More expert for you:
"Center for Disease Control Director Robert Redfield testified in a Buck Institute webinar that suicides and drug overdoses have surpassed the death rate for COVID-19. Redfield argued that lockdowns and lack of public schooling constituted a disproportionally negative impact on young peoples’ mental health.
“We’re seeing, sadly, far greater suicides now than we are deaths from COVID. We’re seeing far greater deaths from drug overdose that are above excess that we had as background than we are seeing the deaths from COVID,” he said."
To clarify he was speaking of about teens and young adults specifically. Drug overdose and suicide were already considered epidemics by the CDC in that age group. In fact suicide was and is the number one cause of death for ages 10 to 34. I have no doubt that we've seen an increase in both since March.
(07-28-2020 01:11 PM)Gilesfan Wrote: So because they want to go to work and cant, they go and murder people? Just by coincidence, if that is right, who's to say they wouldn't murder people for other silly reasons? Cmon man, think logically.
You, the person who keeps scoffing at experts because, presumably, you know more than them, telling people to think logically may be the most hilarious thing that has happened on this board all week.
No, I will never claim that I know more than experts. But, you have to actually support your viewpoint with actual experts.
More expert for you:
"Center for Disease Control Director Robert Redfield testified in a Buck Institute webinar that suicides and drug overdoses have surpassed the death rate for COVID-19. Redfield argued that lockdowns and lack of public schooling constituted a disproportionally negative impact on young peoples’ mental health.
“We’re seeing, sadly, far greater suicides now than we are deaths from COVID. We’re seeing far greater deaths from drug overdose that are above excess that we had as background than we are seeing the deaths from COVID,” he said."
To clarify he was speaking of about teens and young adults specifically. Drug overdose and suicide were already considered epidemics by the CDC in that age group. In fact suicide was and is the number one cause of death for ages 10 to 34. I have no doubt that we've seen an increase in both since March.
Here we are only talking about suicide and drug overdose as the problems. What about the increase in domestic violence? Lives forever changed because of that too. Makes me sick when the media makes it out to be like Covid-19 is our only problem.
So a few weeks back I read a study that stated only 6% of people who recover develop antibodies. That would throw this research out the window because they are only seeing data from 6% of their population.
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