So now i guess we see if Coach Shay can pull rabbits out the hat. Not being critical but he now has a chance to show he can recruit & coach.

(05-19-2020 04:31 PM)Etsuwins Wrote:  So now i guess we see if Coach Shay can pull rabbits out the hat. Not being critical but he now has a chance to show he can recruit & coach.

Afraid Jason Shay is an accepting mediocrity hire.

(05-19-2020 04:31 PM)Etsuwins Wrote:  So now i guess we see if Coach Shay can pull rabbits out the hat. Not being critical but he now has a chance to show he can recruit & coach.

I will have to watch the call show tomorrow. Surely this will be brought up.


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(05-19-2020 04:31 PM)Etsuwins Wrote:  So now i guess we see if Coach Shay can pull rabbits out the hat. Not being critical but he now has a chance to show he can RECRUIT & coach.

This has been the question in my mind (and some others who I have spoken too or messaged me on this board) as well. I think its widely known that Coach Shay can scout like no other, draw up a play at crunch time to get u a bucket, or game plan an opponent. The question is, and will be can he recruit? Is he salesman enough to reload and replenish the roster season after season. Can he keep the ones he's got now and attract new ones when Forbes' crew is all gone?

Time will tell.

(05-19-2020 04:33 PM)etsuandpurdue3 Wrote:  

(05-19-2020 04:31 PM)Etsuwins Wrote:  So now i guess we see if Coach Shay can pull rabbits out the hat. Not being critical but he now has a chance to show he can recruit & coach.

Afraid Jason Shay is an accepting mediocrity hire.

Not looking good. I hope for the best but we could have made any hire and lost these players.

(05-12-2020 10:36 AM)RodShaw2 Wrote:  

(05-12-2020 10:17 AM)ncrrt08 Wrote:  Not sure that right out of the box the first reason for Bo and Davien entering the transfer portal should be that something is “wrong” with Coach Shay.

No.. no the sky is falling, he has to suck, was the worst mistake ETSU has ever made.

If you are new just ignore a large part of the fan base, one sign of adversity and they get stupid.

I have no clue if Shay was the right hire, wasn't my first pick but he got the job and probably deserved that chance.
he also got the job in the weirdest situation a coach could have. Let the man finish moving his stuff into the big office.
Players are thinking about leaving it must be he sucks (I mean just because it happens at every school that has a coaching change now days) it has to be Shay.

Hodges and Williamson were our best two returning players, not at all surprising they put their name in the portal But if one or both does return make sure you boo them.
Would people be crying if it was Corley and/or Weber? Nah they would be saying here a chance to go get a better player.

Wait until one or more of the new guys tests the water.... meltdown will be complete.

He hasn't named all his staff.. must be that nobody wants to work for him

Calm down. lets just hope there is basketball next year.

(05-19-2020 05:31 PM)etsuBucsFan1988 Wrote:  

(05-19-2020 04:31 PM)Etsuwins Wrote:  So now i guess we see if Coach Shay can pull rabbits out the hat. Not being critical but he now has a chance to show he can recruit & coach.

I will have to watch the call show tomorrow. Surely this will be brought up.


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I wouldn't bet on it 88'. In all the press conferences, PR pieces, sports talk show interviews I have heard thus far with, or about Coach Shay, scouting, game planning, X's and O's are brought up repeatedly but there hasn't been much(if any) in the way of questions or comments about his recruiting. I guess we shall see where things go when the rubber meets the road.

Good luck to Hodges, Williamson, and Johnson if they do indeed leave, and good luck to Jason in finding their replacements.

I’ll reserve judgment on Shay until he actually coaches a game. As we now face losing a minimum of 3 major pieces of the the team I once again make the argument that Forbes is leaving behind a much worse situation for Shay than he inherited from Bartow.

Why is everyone blaming Shay. These guys all have in their head they are going to the NBA. So now they think they are better than they are and go chasing more exposure. What they dont understand is you get more exposure being a big fish in a small pond. If either do go to Wak that is pretty crappy of Forbes to do that to Shay.

(05-19-2020 06:50 PM)MTBuc Wrote:  I’ll reserve judgment on Shay until he actually coaches a game. As we now face losing a minimum of 3 major pieces of the the team I once again make the argument that Forbes is leaving behind a much worse situation for Shay than he inherited from Bartow.

Don't you dare try and be reasonable

If we wind up with no point guards next year there will be no way to put a positive spin on it. Team will not win without point guards. I am hoping for the best and want us to have a great team next year. This position will be critical for success next season.

(05-19-2020 05:54 PM)BaseballPops Wrote:  

(05-19-2020 05:31 PM)etsuBucsFan1988 Wrote:  

(05-19-2020 04:31 PM)Etsuwins Wrote:  So now i guess we see if Coach Shay can pull rabbits out the hat. Not being critical but he now has a chance to show he can recruit & coach.

I will have to watch the call show tomorrow. Surely this will be brought up.


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I wouldn't bet on it 88'. In all the press conferences, PR pieces, sports talk show interviews I have heard thus far with, or about Coach Shay, scouting, game planning, X's and O's are brought up repeatedly but there hasn't been much(if any) in the way of questions or comments about his recruiting. I guess we shall see where things go when the rubber meets the road.

Good luck to Hodges, Williamson, and Johnson if they do indeed leave, and good luck to Jason in finding their replacements.

I say — good luck to the students, the fans, and the donors who continue to underwrite $$$ this modern game of free agency college basketball, not to mention the career advancement ladders $$$ of all the passing through coaches.

Im still gonna stay positive thru it all. We got to 26th last year and the majority is still around, including the fans, administration, Coach Shay and players from last year

(05-19-2020 06:50 PM)MTBuc Wrote:  I’ll reserve judgment on Shay until he actually coaches a game. As we now face losing a minimum of 3 major pieces of the the team I once again make the argument that Forbes is leaving behind a much worse situation for Shay than he inherited from Bartow.

Agree. I'm also fine with a rebuilding year or even 2 if it means we are building something more than a place players grabs a cup of coffee at.

I think it has also been ridiculous how little it has been talked about what Bartow left behind for Forbes. That first year ETSU went about 8 deep until right at the end then it went to 9 when AJ returned:

Cromer
Guyn
Bello

Peter
Petey
Ike
Desonta
Lester
AJ

Forbes only brought in 3 guys who contributed that year and 2 of them were 1 year rentals. Its also worth remembering that Devin Harris left the program and he ended up being an all conference player at Jacksonville (?). Things weren't in as bad a shape as most in the media that love Forbes have been making it out to be. Look, Bartow's tenure had long run its course but some acknowledgement of what he did should be noted when talking about how Forbes was able to have success immediately.

(05-19-2020 07:02 PM)Buc66 Wrote:  

(05-19-2020 05:54 PM)BaseballPops Wrote:  

(05-19-2020 05:31 PM)etsuBucsFan1988 Wrote:  

(05-19-2020 04:31 PM)Etsuwins Wrote:  So now i guess we see if Coach Shay can pull rabbits out the hat. Not being critical but he now has a chance to show he can recruit & coach.

I will have to watch the call show tomorrow. Surely this will be brought up.


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I wouldn't bet on it 88'. In all the press conferences, PR pieces, sports talk show interviews I have heard thus far with, or about Coach Shay, scouting, game planning, X's and O's are brought up repeatedly but there hasn't been much(if any) in the way of questions or comments about his recruiting. I guess we shall see where things go when the rubber meets the road.

Good luck to Hodges, Williamson, and Johnson if they do indeed leave, and good luck to Jason in finding their replacements.

I say — good luck to the students, the fans, and the donors who continue to underwrite $$$ this modern game of free agency college basketball, not to mention the career advancement ladders $$$ of all the passing through coaches.

Probably not the best place to post this, but the times they are a changing'. Not sure I am on board with the changes.

9th Circuit Court of Appeals rules against NCAA Restrictions on Athlete Pay

(05-19-2020 08:05 PM)brock20 Wrote:  

(05-19-2020 06:50 PM)MTBuc Wrote:  I’ll reserve judgment on Shay until he actually coaches a game. As we now face losing a minimum of 3 major pieces of the the team I once again make the argument that Forbes is leaving behind a much worse situation for Shay than he inherited from Bartow.

Agree. I'm also fine with a rebuilding year or even 2 if it means we are building something more than a place players grabs a cup of coffee at.

I think it has also been ridiculous how little it has been talked about what Bartow left behind for Forbes. That first year ETSU went about 8 deep until right at the end then it went to 9 when AJ returned:

Cromer
Guyn
Bello

Peter
Petey
Ike
Desonta
Lester
AJ

Forbes only brought in 3 guys who contributed that year and 2 of them were 1 year rentals. Its also worth remembering that Devin Harris left the program and he ended up being an all conference player at Jacksonville (?). Things weren't in as bad a shape as most in the media that love Forbes have been making it out to be. Look, Bartow's tenure had long run its course but some acknowledgement of what he did should be noted when talking about how Forbes was able to have success immediately.

Our team will be ok next year if we can get a couple of point guards who can really play. It is not enough to make Patrick play the point as that is not his position. All the other talent is mostly useless unless we can get points.

(05-19-2020 08:05 PM)brock20 Wrote:  

(05-19-2020 06:50 PM)MTBuc Wrote:  I’ll reserve judgment on Shay until he actually coaches a game. As we now face losing a minimum of 3 major pieces of the the team I once again make the argument that Forbes is leaving behind a much worse situation for Shay than he inherited from Bartow.

Agree. I'm also fine with a rebuilding year or even 2 if it means we are building something more than a place players grabs a cup of coffee at.

I think it has also been ridiculous how little it has been talked about what Bartow left behind for Forbes. That first year ETSU went about 8 deep until right at the end then it went to 9 when AJ returned:

Cromer
Guyn
Bello

Peter
Petey
Ike
Desonta
Lester
AJ

Forbes only brought in 3 guys who contributed that year and 2 of them were 1 year rentals. Its also worth remembering that Devin Harris left the program and he ended up being an all conference player at Jacksonville (?). Things weren't in as bad a shape as most in the media that love Forbes have been making it out to be. Look, Bartow's tenure had long run its course but some acknowledgement of what he did should be noted when talking about how Forbes was able to have success immediately.

Wow, brock with the truth again, how many will listen?
We do seem to agree on a lot of stuff.

(05-19-2020 04:31 PM)Etsuwins Wrote:  So now i guess we see if Coach Shay can pull rabbits out the hat. Not being critical but he now has a chance to show he can recruit & coach.

(05-19-2020 08:27 PM)RodShaw2 Wrote:  

(05-19-2020 08:05 PM)brock20 Wrote:  

(05-19-2020 06:50 PM)MTBuc Wrote:  I’ll reserve judgment on Shay until he actually coaches a game. As we now face losing a minimum of 3 major pieces of the the team I once again make the argument that Forbes is leaving behind a much worse situation for Shay than he inherited from Bartow.

Agree. I'm also fine with a rebuilding year or even 2 if it means we are building something more than a place players grabs a cup of coffee at.

I think it has also been ridiculous how little it has been talked about what Bartow left behind for Forbes. That first year ETSU went about 8 deep until right at the end then it went to 9 when AJ returned:

Cromer
Guyn
Bello

Peter
Petey
Ike
Desonta
Lester
AJ

Forbes only brought in 3 guys who contributed that year and 2 of them were 1 year rentals. Its also worth remembering that Devin Harris left the program and he ended up being an all conference player at Jacksonville (?). Things weren't in as bad a shape as most in the media that love Forbes have been making it out to be. Look, Bartow's tenure had long run its course but some acknowledgement of what he did should be noted when talking about how Forbes was able to have success immediately.

Wow, brock with the truth again, how many will listen?
We do seem to agree on a lot of stuff.

This post was not meant to be critical of Shay or that I do not support him. Just an observation. Can he coach & can he recruit. We shall see.

(05-19-2020 06:58 PM)bucfan81 Wrote:  If we wind up with no point guards next year there will be no way to put a positive spin on it. Team will not win without point guards. I am hoping for the best and want us to have a great team next year. This position will be critical for success next season.

Not many point guards left in the portal of any level.

(05-19-2020 09:00 PM)RodShaw2 Wrote:  

(05-19-2020 06:58 PM)bucfan81 Wrote:  If we wind up with no point guards next year there will be no way to put a positive spin on it. Team will not win without point guards. I am hoping for the best and want us to have a great team next year. This position will be critical for success next season.

Not many point guards left in the portal of any level.

Yep.