Penny is in to deep to quit. He would ripped to shreds locally and nationally and he has a brand to maintain.

a lot of x spurts on here

only losers quit, he's NOT a loser

If he doesnt get enough high level recruits this Spring and next Fall? And misses the tourney againin 2021? Yes. I dont see Penny being interested in being a traditional college coach trying to win with ordinary college teams. All of his coaching has been marked by stacked rosters. He even stacks local mens rec leagues that he participates in. I dont see him staying if he cant do it that way.

Too many people want to give up too soon. If DJ can return by the end of the season we could very well win the AAC Torny. We would have just as good a chance as anyone to win it

(02-18-2020 08:43 PM)jsw3ent Wrote:  

(02-18-2020 08:20 PM)ImaTiger Wrote:  Penny has more character than the twit that started this thread. Bank on it.

Conversation in Tunica. OMFG

Pray tell what wise life choices did you make to bring you to such a lofty and esteemed dead end joint like Tunica?

TWIT-/character-really---I bet I was a TIGER fan before you were sucking on zwiebacks. I am a MEMPHIS TIGER fan period----a PENNY fan I am. You dont know me O HOLIER THAN THOU ONE---who are you to judge me. THIS IS A FAN MESSAGE BOARD WHERE PEOPLE COME TO TALK TIGERS.

Not that it is any of your business me being in Tunica----but its the best/only poker room in area---and thats what I do.

It’s not such a bad place... I live in Tunica county.

(02-18-2020 10:11 PM)Nobody4Prez Wrote:  Too many people want to give up too soon. If DJ can return by the end of the season we could very well win the AAC Torny. We would have just as good a chance as anyone to win it

Absolutely!

Dude gave $1M (at least) of his money to the school and is practically doing the HC job pro bono. He loves the school and loves the city. It’s going to take more than one disappointing season and a few ignorant loudmouthed yahoos to run him off. I’m sure he’s heard it all yelled at him after 20 years playing on opposing courts. We’re also talking abut a guy who grew up dirt poor sleeping on the floor of a dilapidated house and was shot when he was 18, the kind of experiences that put this “pressure” into perspective.

Should not even be a question, imo. I think he's doing a very good job, given what he's had to deal with. Problem was, and yes, he helped stoke the fire, the expectations were set way too high.

(02-18-2020 05:35 PM)jsw3ent Wrote:  ...I sure hope not. I touched on this in another thread---but people really think its a possibility . At the sportbooks in Tunica and poker room at the shoe people are thinking he may pull a Wiseman. That has been the main topic of conversation since the USF game. They say he is taking so much heat nationally being snickered at and ridiculed by his peers that his ego cant take it. They say if some of our core players transfer---coupled with not signing Green and Brown that Penny is gone. Green once considered a MEMPHIS/PENNY lock is now leaning Auburn. Combine that with the heat locally . If we win the AAC trny and go to the dance this will all pass----or if we do sign Brown/Green and dont lose any core players to transfer then again I think all this talk will disappear . Add them 2 guys to our returning guys and again next year could be special. What say you ---is Penny quitting a REAL possibility ? I hope not----- go TIGERS

My dentist and mechanic say it's not happening.

(02-18-2020 09:01 PM)GermantownTiger Wrote:  Penny has said absolutely nothing to indicate he's just gonna up and quit just because his team is experiencing a few temporary hurdles.

One doesn't achieve the things he achieved on the basketball court and in life without fighting through obstacles that likely would've derailed lesser folks.

We just need to keep cheering this team and coaching staff on as they work through this season's adversity...better days are yet to come, my fellow Tiger fans.

THIS^^^

(02-18-2020 05:50 PM)MemphisTigerPawr Wrote:  John Beilien is free now, doubt he wants an assistants job but who knows. He just walked away from 20 million dollars in Cleveland

Hiring a quitter to help keep someone else from quitting doesn't seem to make much sense. But, hey, maybe that's just me.

(02-19-2020 10:03 AM)gusrob Wrote:  

(02-18-2020 09:01 PM)GermantownTiger Wrote:  Penny has said absolutely nothing to indicate he's just gonna up and quit just because his team is experiencing a few temporary hurdles.

One doesn't achieve the things he achieved on the basketball court and in life without fighting through obstacles that likely would've derailed lesser folks.

We just need to keep cheering this team and coaching staff on as they work through this season's adversity...better days are yet to come, my fellow Tiger fans.

THIS^^^

Thing is, ask a handful of different folks who have actually started their own business or had real P&L responsibility in a larger company if they don't experience temporary setbacks while building up their organization. Most of these kinds of people will tell you that nothing worthwhile is easy and that many challenges are encountered along the journey.

(02-19-2020 09:52 AM)Stammers Wrote:  

(02-18-2020 05:35 PM)jsw3ent Wrote:  ...I sure hope not. I touched on this in another thread---but people really think its a possibility . At the sportbooks in Tunica and poker room at the shoe people are thinking he may pull a Wiseman. That has been the main topic of conversation since the USF game. They say he is taking so much heat nationally being snickered at and ridiculed by his peers that his ego cant take it. They say if some of our core players transfer---coupled with not signing Green and Brown that Penny is gone. Green once considered a MEMPHIS/PENNY lock is now leaning Auburn. Combine that with the heat locally . If we win the AAC trny and go to the dance this will all pass----or if we do sign Brown/Green and dont lose any core players to transfer then again I think all this talk will disappear . Add them 2 guys to our returning guys and again next year could be special. What say you ---is Penny quitting a REAL possibility ? I hope not----- go TIGERS

My dentist and mechanic say it's not happening.

Stams, I know a meth addict who disagrees with your people...just sayin'.

(02-19-2020 10:37 AM)oldmangrizz Wrote:  

(02-18-2020 05:50 PM)MemphisTigerPawr Wrote:  John Beilien is free now, doubt he wants an assistants job but who knows. He just walked away from 20 million dollars in Cleveland

Hiring a quitter to help keep someone else from quitting doesn't seem to make much sense. But, hey, maybe that's just me.

Wouldn't be hiring him or anyone else to keep Penny from quitting but to mentor him. Of course Penny may think he doesn't need mentoring idk. I've heard him say repeatedly our game plan, X's and O's were fine so there's that..

Beilien is just a possible mentor as is Greenberg. Penny may not want or need help.

(02-19-2020 10:47 AM)GermantownTiger Wrote:  

(02-19-2020 10:03 AM)gusrob Wrote:  

(02-18-2020 09:01 PM)GermantownTiger Wrote:  Penny has said absolutely nothing to indicate he's just gonna up and quit just because his team is experiencing a few temporary hurdles.

One doesn't achieve the things he achieved on the basketball court and in life without fighting through obstacles that likely would've derailed lesser folks.

We just need to keep cheering this team and coaching staff on as they work through this season's adversity...better days are yet to come, my fellow Tiger fans.

THIS^^^

Thing is, ask a handful of different folks who have actually started their own business or had real P&L responsibility in a larger company if they don't experience temporary setbacks while building up their organization. Most of these kinds of people will tell you that nothing worthwhile is easy and that many challenges are encountered along the journey.

I couldn't agree more.

To me, the x factor with Penny has always been: can he coach? I am blown away by how well he can coach. He runs great plays out of TOs, in bounds, etc. He has a group of freshman with a few sophs sprinkled in and they play phenomenal team D. His team has great chemistry.

Ironically, we've had issues with the assumed parts. Recruiting talent. Who knew Wiseman wouldn't come through? Or that LQ, DJ would get hurt? Or that Rayjon wouldn't come?

(02-19-2020 10:50 AM)MemphisTigerPawr Wrote:  

(02-19-2020 10:37 AM)oldmangrizz Wrote:  

(02-18-2020 05:50 PM)MemphisTigerPawr Wrote:  John Beilien is free now, doubt he wants an assistants job but who knows. He just walked away from 20 million dollars in Cleveland

Hiring a quitter to help keep someone else from quitting doesn't seem to make much sense. But, hey, maybe that's just me.

Wouldn't be hiring him or anyone else to keep Penny from quitting but to mentor him. Of course Penny may think he doesn't need mentoring idk. I've heard him say repeatedly our game plan, X's and O's were fine so there's that..

Beilien is just a possible mentor as is Greenberg. Penny may not want or need help.

I still wouldn't hire a quitter for the position. Too many other guys without that tag would take the job.

(02-19-2020 10:56 AM)oldmangrizz Wrote:  

(02-19-2020 10:50 AM)MemphisTigerPawr Wrote:  

(02-19-2020 10:37 AM)oldmangrizz Wrote:  

(02-18-2020 05:50 PM)MemphisTigerPawr Wrote:  John Beilien is free now, doubt he wants an assistants job but who knows. He just walked away from 20 million dollars in Cleveland

Hiring a quitter to help keep someone else from quitting doesn't seem to make much sense. But, hey, maybe that's just me.

Wouldn't be hiring him or anyone else to keep Penny from quitting but to mentor him. Of course Penny may think he doesn't need mentoring idk. I've heard him say repeatedly our game plan, X's and O's were fine so there's that..

Beilien is just a possible mentor as is Greenberg. Penny may not want or need help.

I still wouldn't hire a quitter for the position. Too many other guys without that tag would take the job.

Name a few then. It's just a suggestion.

Like I said I doubt he would take an assistant job anyway.

(02-19-2020 10:55 AM)gusrob Wrote:  

(02-19-2020 10:47 AM)GermantownTiger Wrote:  

(02-19-2020 10:03 AM)gusrob Wrote:  

(02-18-2020 09:01 PM)GermantownTiger Wrote:  Penny has said absolutely nothing to indicate he's just gonna up and quit just because his team is experiencing a few temporary hurdles.

One doesn't achieve the things he achieved on the basketball court and in life without fighting through obstacles that likely would've derailed lesser folks.

We just need to keep cheering this team and coaching staff on as they work through this season's adversity...better days are yet to come, my fellow Tiger fans.

THIS^^^

Thing is, ask a handful of different folks who have actually started their own business or had real P&L responsibility in a larger company if they don't experience temporary setbacks while building up their organization. Most of these kinds of people will tell you that nothing worthwhile is easy and that many challenges are encountered along the journey.

I couldn't agree more.

To me, the x factor with Penny has always been: can he coach? I am blown away by how well he can coach. He runs great plays out of TOs, in bounds, etc. He has a group of freshman with a few sophs sprinkled in and they play phenomenal team D. His team has great chemistry.

Ironically, we've had issues with the assumed parts. Recruiting talent. Who knew Wiseman wouldn't come through? Or that LQ, DJ would get hurt? Or that Rayjon wouldn't come?

I agree although I don’t always agree with who he has in the game at certain times. But hey, I’m not the coach and never have coached at or near that level. I’m sure the staff sees and knows much more than I do.

(02-19-2020 10:55 AM)gusrob Wrote:  

(02-19-2020 10:47 AM)GermantownTiger Wrote:  

(02-19-2020 10:03 AM)gusrob Wrote:  

(02-18-2020 09:01 PM)GermantownTiger Wrote:  Penny has said absolutely nothing to indicate he's just gonna up and quit just because his team is experiencing a few temporary hurdles.

One doesn't achieve the things he achieved on the basketball court and in life without fighting through obstacles that likely would've derailed lesser folks.

We just need to keep cheering this team and coaching staff on as they work through this season's adversity...better days are yet to come, my fellow Tiger fans.

THIS^^^

Thing is, ask a handful of different folks who have actually started their own business or had real P&L responsibility in a larger company if they don't experience temporary setbacks while building up their organization. Most of these kinds of people will tell you that nothing worthwhile is easy and that many challenges are encountered along the journey.

I couldn't agree more.

To me, the x factor with Penny has always been: can he coach? I am blown away by how well he can coach. He runs great plays out of TOs, in bounds, etc. He has a group of freshman with a few sophs sprinkled in and they play phenomenal team D. His team has great chemistry.

Ironically, we've had issues with the assumed parts. Recruiting talent. Who knew Wiseman wouldn't come through? Or that LQ, DJ would get hurt? Or that Rayjon wouldn't come?

I totally agree - particularly with the bolded. Penny has made errors, but nothing glaring or that he's not been obviously willing to change - I also expect ALo to get fewer minutes the more Boogie continues to improve. He's not a "my way or the highway" kind of guy.

The sky isn't falling; it's just not all rainbows & unicorns (pardon the pun) that we expected this season.