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(05-15-2019 10:12 PM)solohawks Wrote:  Dems would rather be the state of New York that allows a baby on the verge of birth to be aborted

Or Virginia where they want to be able to abort post-birth.
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RE: Alabama just passed a near-total abortion ban with no exceptions for rape or incest
(05-15-2019 11:04 PM)swagsurfer11 Wrote:  
(05-15-2019 06:04 PM)umbluegray Wrote:  
(05-15-2019 03:48 PM)JDTulane Wrote:  
(05-15-2019 03:41 PM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  
(05-15-2019 02:30 PM)CG_Hawk06 Wrote:  I love this.

The left for the past year plus has been whining and wailing about the "poor treatment" of illegal children at the border claiming to care about kids.

Today though (and always if they're blatantly honest), they're all about killing kids.

Such a conundrum they find themselves in.

...popcorn.


It is a twisted position they find themselves in.

I would have made exceptions for rape and incest. I think the vast majority of pro life people would.

So you are cool with murdering people, exceptionally. Got it. The most Christian thing you've ever posted. 03-lol

Personally I agree with the no exception stance.

But let's say the abortion debate came down to a discussion between you and me.

I would gladly give in on rape/incest/life of mother if it meant those were the only reasons allowed.

Anonymous survey of 1,209 post-abortive women conducted by the Guttmacher Institue regarding the reasons for abortion:

<0.5% - Rape
4% - Physical health problems

Florida records the reason for every abortion. In 2015 there were 71,740 abortions in Florida. The reasons:

0.001% - Incest
0.065% - Life of mother
0.085% - Rape
0.288% - Physical health of mother

We're not even at 1/2 of 1 %.

If we cut the number of abortions by 95%-98% I would be ecstatic.

That would mean in 2017 instead of 879,000 babies being killed, 835,050 babies would still be alive.


Yeah, the left uses the emotional point about rape/incest/life of mother but it means NOTHING.

Statistically, those reasons account for <5% of all abortions combined.

The real reasons for abortion: because I want to.

Tell that to someone who has been raped and is now forced to conceive.

Wait! A woman can choose (or will herself) not to conceive?

OK, that's just mind-blowing.
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RE: Alabama just passed a near-total abortion ban with no exceptions for rape or incest
(05-16-2019 06:50 AM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote:  
(05-15-2019 04:51 PM)swagsurfer11 Wrote:  
(05-15-2019 03:36 PM)umbluegray Wrote:  
(05-15-2019 02:37 PM)swagsurfer11 Wrote:  
(05-15-2019 02:27 PM)king king Wrote:  So is looking at your neighbor's wife with lust.

All should be crimes in Alabama. GOP getting back to its roots!

If by roots you mean basic morality; well, yeah.

The party of morals

Here, allow me to ease your confusion a bit. It's unrealistic to expect you to know what they are.

mor·al
[ˈmôrəl]
NOUN
morals (plural noun)
a lesson, especially one concerning what is right or prudent, that can be derived from a story, a piece of information, or an experience.
"the moral of this story was that one must see the beauty in what one has"
synonyms:
lesson · message · meaning · significance · signification · import · point · [more]
(morals)
a person's standards of behavior or beliefs concerning what is and is not acceptable for them to do.
"the corruption of public morals" · [more]
synonyms:
moral code · code of ethics · moral standards · moral values · principles · [more]

I hope this helps.

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RE: Alabama just passed a near-total abortion ban with no exceptions for rape or incest
(05-16-2019 07:48 AM)Nittany_Bearcat Wrote:  
(05-16-2019 07:07 AM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote:  
(05-15-2019 09:49 PM)Nittany_Bearcat Wrote:  
(05-15-2019 09:38 PM)Captain Bearcat Wrote:  If a woman gets pregnant after being raped, that stinks. But it happens so rarely that it's not even worth discussing. 99.99% of abortions in America are 100% elective after consensual sex.

But it DOES happen. It's a topic that's absolutely worthy of discussion - we are not discussing something as ridiculous as "what if a woman gets pregnant after being shot full of alien semen from a Martian death ray gun?"

0.001% - Incest
0.065% - Life of mother
0.085% - Rape

All three of these components represent statistical zero you understand, right? 0.151% combined...

0.151% isn't zero. I mean, it's 1 in 662.

But if you want to talk about "statistical zero", we can get a number considerably closer to that.

Statistics tells us that:

(1) if you have 100,000 events and,
(2) each of those 100,000 events has a 0.151% (1 in 662) chance of being X,
(3) then the chances of NONE of those 100,000 events being X is 1 in 10 to the 66th power.

That is a whole lot closer to "statistical zero" than 0.151%.

Pregnancies due to rape do and will happen. That's just what it is. It's a legitimate question as to what we should do in those situations. It's intellectually dubious to argue that those instances will never happen.

Yes, pregnancies due to rape do and will happen. But, as we've demonstrated, those cases count for a small percentage of the total number of abortions performed annually.

According to the liberal, pro-abortion Guttmacher Institute, from 1973 through 2011 more than 50,000,000 abortions have been performed.

Check my math but .151% of 50,000,000 is 75,500 abortions over 38 years.

Which also means 49,924,500 babies have been killed simply for convenience.

49,924,500

75,500

Those who are pro-life understand that Americans will always favor allowing those very rare exceptions.

We also understand those who fight with all their might to continue murdering over 49.9 million people are kinda whacked.
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RE: Alabama just passed a near-total abortion ban with no exceptions for rape or incest
(05-16-2019 03:19 PM)umbluegray Wrote:  
(05-16-2019 07:48 AM)Nittany_Bearcat Wrote:  
(05-16-2019 07:07 AM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote:  
(05-15-2019 09:49 PM)Nittany_Bearcat Wrote:  
(05-15-2019 09:38 PM)Captain Bearcat Wrote:  If a woman gets pregnant after being raped, that stinks. But it happens so rarely that it's not even worth discussing. 99.99% of abortions in America are 100% elective after consensual sex.

But it DOES happen. It's a topic that's absolutely worthy of discussion - we are not discussing something as ridiculous as "what if a woman gets pregnant after being shot full of alien semen from a Martian death ray gun?"

0.001% - Incest
0.065% - Life of mother
0.085% - Rape

All three of these components represent statistical zero you understand, right? 0.151% combined...

0.151% isn't zero. I mean, it's 1 in 662.

But if you want to talk about "statistical zero", we can get a number considerably closer to that.

Statistics tells us that:

(1) if you have 100,000 events and,
(2) each of those 100,000 events has a 0.151% (1 in 662) chance of being X,
(3) then the chances of NONE of those 100,000 events being X is 1 in 10 to the 66th power.

That is a whole lot closer to "statistical zero" than 0.151%.

Pregnancies due to rape do and will happen. That's just what it is. It's a legitimate question as to what we should do in those situations. It's intellectually dubious to argue that those instances will never happen.

Yes, pregnancies due to rape do and will happen. But, as we've demonstrated, those cases count for a small percentage of the total number of abortions performed annually.

According to the liberal, pro-abortion Guttmacher Institute, from 1973 through 2011 more than 50,000,000 abortions have been performed.

Check my math but .151% of 50,000,000 is 75,500 abortions over 38 years.

Which also means 49,924,500 babies have been killed simply for convenience.

49,924,500

75,500

Those who are pro-life understand that Americans will always favor allowing those very rare exceptions.

We also understand those who fight with all their might to continue murdering over 49.9 million people are kinda whacked.

You do know they passed a law with no exceptions right? When they could have passed a law with exceptions. No matter how rare it might be, it does happen. So why pass a law with no exceptions in it.
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(05-16-2019 03:19 PM)umbluegray Wrote:  
(05-16-2019 07:48 AM)Nittany_Bearcat Wrote:  
(05-16-2019 07:07 AM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote:  
(05-15-2019 09:49 PM)Nittany_Bearcat Wrote:  
(05-15-2019 09:38 PM)Captain Bearcat Wrote:  If a woman gets pregnant after being raped, that stinks. But it happens so rarely that it's not even worth discussing. 99.99% of abortions in America are 100% elective after consensual sex.

But it DOES happen. It's a topic that's absolutely worthy of discussion - we are not discussing something as ridiculous as "what if a woman gets pregnant after being shot full of alien semen from a Martian death ray gun?"

0.001% - Incest
0.065% - Life of mother
0.085% - Rape

All three of these components represent statistical zero you understand, right? 0.151% combined...

0.151% isn't zero. I mean, it's 1 in 662.

But if you want to talk about "statistical zero", we can get a number considerably closer to that.

Statistics tells us that:

(1) if you have 100,000 events and,
(2) each of those 100,000 events has a 0.151% (1 in 662) chance of being X,
(3) then the chances of NONE of those 100,000 events being X is 1 in 10 to the 66th power.

That is a whole lot closer to "statistical zero" than 0.151%.

Pregnancies due to rape do and will happen. That's just what it is. It's a legitimate question as to what we should do in those situations. It's intellectually dubious to argue that those instances will never happen.

Yes, pregnancies due to rape do and will happen. But, as we've demonstrated, those cases count for a small percentage of the total number of abortions performed annually.

According to the liberal, pro-abortion Guttmacher Institute, from 1973 through 2011 more than 50,000,000 abortions have been performed.

Check my math but .151% of 50,000,000 is 75,500 abortions over 38 years.

Which also means 49,924,500 babies have been killed simply for convenience.

49,924,500

75,500

Those who are pro-life understand that Americans will always favor allowing those very rare exceptions.

We also understand those who fight with all their might to continue murdering over 49.9 million people are kinda whacked.

Whacked. As opposed to those that think that a woman should have absolutely *zero* control of her body from the immediate point of time of conception. Got it.

I am coming to the realization that the NFW from conception sect is just as fing stupid as those pushing for 8th and 9th month abortions.

And both share a certain extremism in tolerance issues.
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(05-16-2019 02:58 PM)fsquid Wrote:  "I'm from the government and I'm here to help"

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(05-16-2019 03:33 PM)bobdizole Wrote:  
(05-16-2019 03:19 PM)umbluegray Wrote:  
(05-16-2019 07:48 AM)Nittany_Bearcat Wrote:  
(05-16-2019 07:07 AM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote:  
(05-15-2019 09:49 PM)Nittany_Bearcat Wrote:  But it DOES happen. It's a topic that's absolutely worthy of discussion - we are not discussing something as ridiculous as "what if a woman gets pregnant after being shot full of alien semen from a Martian death ray gun?"

0.001% - Incest
0.065% - Life of mother
0.085% - Rape

All three of these components represent statistical zero you understand, right? 0.151% combined...

0.151% isn't zero. I mean, it's 1 in 662.

But if you want to talk about "statistical zero", we can get a number considerably closer to that.

Statistics tells us that:

(1) if you have 100,000 events and,
(2) each of those 100,000 events has a 0.151% (1 in 662) chance of being X,
(3) then the chances of NONE of those 100,000 events being X is 1 in 10 to the 66th power.

That is a whole lot closer to "statistical zero" than 0.151%.

Pregnancies due to rape do and will happen. That's just what it is. It's a legitimate question as to what we should do in those situations. It's intellectually dubious to argue that those instances will never happen.

Yes, pregnancies due to rape do and will happen. But, as we've demonstrated, those cases count for a small percentage of the total number of abortions performed annually.

According to the liberal, pro-abortion Guttmacher Institute, from 1973 through 2011 more than 50,000,000 abortions have been performed.

Check my math but .151% of 50,000,000 is 75,500 abortions over 38 years.

Which also means 49,924,500 babies have been killed simply for convenience.

49,924,500

75,500

Those who are pro-life understand that Americans will always favor allowing those very rare exceptions.

We also understand those who fight with all their might to continue murdering over 49.9 million people are kinda whacked.

You do know they passed a law with no exceptions right? When they could have passed a law with exceptions. No matter how rare it might be, it does happen. So why pass a law with no exceptions in it.


The number of rape cases are not being reported. The number of rape and incest cases that lead to pregnancies that have not been reported to law enforcement because in cases of rape as being ashamed to hiding a dark secret of a family member did the rape. You have to look at how much of that been going on in this country for a long while.The numbers might be more than you think.
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(05-15-2019 11:19 AM)EverRespect Wrote:  Good for Alabama. Just saw a story on declining birth rates. This should help that problem a little as well as strengthen African American Census numbers in the state..

Unwilling mothers with no job prospects are not the answer.

I don't like abortion, but I also am not sold that an expanding population of many non taxpayers is a recipe for success.
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(05-16-2019 02:46 PM)umbluegray Wrote:  
(05-16-2019 11:23 AM)DaSaintFan Wrote:  
(05-16-2019 09:13 AM)Claw Wrote:  Brett Kavanaugh will vote to uphold Roe v Wade. He is a legalist. That is the established law.

Kavanaugh has hinted that he's much like Thomas, an originalist.

Past Supreme Court Rulings do not affect future supreme court rulings. Those can be changed over time, providing the new ruling applies the Constitution as is written.

And future SC rulings can disregard previous rulings, see Slavery.

Just because the court has ruled that it's ok to murder innocent babies doesn't mean the court has to perpetuate it.

Thank you, UM.. that was the argument that Thomas used... basically if we stuck with previous SC and not allowed to contest a decision over time, slaves would still be 3/5ths a person.
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(05-16-2019 04:04 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  
(05-16-2019 03:33 PM)bobdizole Wrote:  
(05-16-2019 03:19 PM)umbluegray Wrote:  
(05-16-2019 07:48 AM)Nittany_Bearcat Wrote:  
(05-16-2019 07:07 AM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote:  0.001% - Incest
0.065% - Life of mother
0.085% - Rape

All three of these components represent statistical zero you understand, right? 0.151% combined...

0.151% isn't zero. I mean, it's 1 in 662.

But if you want to talk about "statistical zero", we can get a number considerably closer to that.

Statistics tells us that:

(1) if you have 100,000 events and,
(2) each of those 100,000 events has a 0.151% (1 in 662) chance of being X,
(3) then the chances of NONE of those 100,000 events being X is 1 in 10 to the 66th power.

That is a whole lot closer to "statistical zero" than 0.151%.

Pregnancies due to rape do and will happen. That's just what it is. It's a legitimate question as to what we should do in those situations. It's intellectually dubious to argue that those instances will never happen.

Yes, pregnancies due to rape do and will happen. But, as we've demonstrated, those cases count for a small percentage of the total number of abortions performed annually.

According to the liberal, pro-abortion Guttmacher Institute, from 1973 through 2011 more than 50,000,000 abortions have been performed.

Check my math but .151% of 50,000,000 is 75,500 abortions over 38 years.

Which also means 49,924,500 babies have been killed simply for convenience.

49,924,500

75,500

Those who are pro-life understand that Americans will always favor allowing those very rare exceptions.

We also understand those who fight with all their might to continue murdering over 49.9 million people are kinda whacked.

You do know they passed a law with no exceptions right? When they could have passed a law with exceptions. No matter how rare it might be, it does happen. So why pass a law with no exceptions in it.


The number of rape cases are not being reported. The number of rape and incest cases that lead to pregnancies that have not been reported to law enforcement because in cases of rape as being ashamed to hiding a dark secret of a family member did the rape. You have to look at how much of that been going on in this country for a long while.The numbers might be more than you think.
So you are saying you would be fine with only allowing abortion for rape, incest etc. and totally outlawing it otherwise? When you go to buy a car and are willing to pay only $20,000 you don't offer that at the beginning you offer $17,500. Get the opponents to come up with this crazy "what about rape and incest?" argument and then when you exclude that what will they have to argue about? Nothing. Simple plan for when dealing with slow minded angry people.
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(05-16-2019 04:08 PM)oliveandblue Wrote:  
(05-15-2019 11:19 AM)EverRespect Wrote:  Good for Alabama. Just saw a story on declining birth rates. This should help that problem a little as well as strengthen African American Census numbers in the state..

Unwilling mothers with no job prospects are not the answer.

I don't like abortion, but I also am not sold that an expanding population of many non taxpayers is a recipe for success.
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(05-16-2019 03:33 PM)bobdizole Wrote:  
(05-16-2019 03:19 PM)umbluegray Wrote:  
(05-16-2019 07:48 AM)Nittany_Bearcat Wrote:  
(05-16-2019 07:07 AM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote:  
(05-15-2019 09:49 PM)Nittany_Bearcat Wrote:  But it DOES happen. It's a topic that's absolutely worthy of discussion - we are not discussing something as ridiculous as "what if a woman gets pregnant after being shot full of alien semen from a Martian death ray gun?"

0.001% - Incest
0.065% - Life of mother
0.085% - Rape

All three of these components represent statistical zero you understand, right? 0.151% combined...

0.151% isn't zero. I mean, it's 1 in 662.

But if you want to talk about "statistical zero", we can get a number considerably closer to that.

Statistics tells us that:

(1) if you have 100,000 events and,
(2) each of those 100,000 events has a 0.151% (1 in 662) chance of being X,
(3) then the chances of NONE of those 100,000 events being X is 1 in 10 to the 66th power.

That is a whole lot closer to "statistical zero" than 0.151%.

Pregnancies due to rape do and will happen. That's just what it is. It's a legitimate question as to what we should do in those situations. It's intellectually dubious to argue that those instances will never happen.

Yes, pregnancies due to rape do and will happen. But, as we've demonstrated, those cases count for a small percentage of the total number of abortions performed annually.

According to the liberal, pro-abortion Guttmacher Institute, from 1973 through 2011 more than 50,000,000 abortions have been performed.

Check my math but .151% of 50,000,000 is 75,500 abortions over 38 years.

Which also means 49,924,500 babies have been killed simply for convenience.

49,924,500

75,500

Those who are pro-life understand that Americans will always favor allowing those very rare exceptions.

We also understand those who fight with all their might to continue murdering over 49.9 million people are kinda whacked.

You do know they passed a law with no exceptions right? When they could have passed a law with exceptions. No matter how rare it might be, it does happen. So why pass a law with no exceptions in it.

Yes, I do understand they passed a law with no exceptions.

Because I'm pro-life I agree with no exceptions. I understand the exceptions and would be gladly willing to compromise by saying no abortions except for those exceptions if it means saving the lives of 49,924,500 innocent babies.

But I also understand that Alabama drafted a bill with a strategy in mind.
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What if we made all abortions illegal but made exceptions for cases of rape and incest? Would that be good enough for the pro-choice crowd? If not, quit using the less than 1% of all abortions as your argument and be honest with everyone that you think killing innocent babies for convenience is ok.
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(05-16-2019 08:40 AM)JDTulane Wrote:  
(05-16-2019 07:35 AM)EverRespect Wrote:  
(05-16-2019 07:10 AM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote:  
(05-15-2019 10:47 PM)JDTulane Wrote:  
(05-15-2019 10:40 PM)Eagleaidaholic Wrote:  Pretty sure you can get the next morning pill if the things you say happen. Shouldnt take more than 6 weeks to figure out your uncle joe raped you. Poor argument.

What a disgusting reply. "Hey Little Susie! I know Uncle Joe raped 11 year old you.... and it sucks you just realized you're pregnant (btw, do you even know what that means yet?)... but why didnt you just wobble on down to the local Piggly Woggly and buy that ole Day After pill when ta had the chance ? I guess it's your fault. Sorry... kiddos yours now!"

At least little Susie is here and not sitting in some lab jar as a fetus. I bet she'll take that over the alternative of being an abortion statistic.

For someone who has no say over any of this, since you're a man, you seem heavily invested. Or is it simply more virtue signalling?

Either no male role models or abused growing up, socially rejected through adolescence, strong and overbearing mother who was likely his best friend and gave him nothing but female spin on everything he saw on TV or problem he encountered and came home with... basically only relates to women and men with similar upbringing. Kind of a step above gender dysphoria. I don't know him, just a guess.

Hah! Could not be further from the truth. Moderate to conservative Idaho upbringing by a southern mom and northwestern dad who builds guns and woodworks. Methodists. Latchkey kid with plenty of friends and normal upbringing of sports and AP classes.

The idea that me being pro choice and anti legislation geared towards women who have been raped being forced into mother hood equals me being abused or having gender dysphoria? Laughable. And pathetic on your part.

So, you're saying they failed you. I mean they look like they are average American conservatives who raised a liberal pantywaist. What happened?
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(05-16-2019 09:29 AM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  
(05-16-2019 09:13 AM)Claw Wrote:  Brett Kavanaugh will vote to uphold Roe v Wade. He is a legalist. That is the established law.

Unless Trump gets another appointment before the challenges reach the SCOTUS, all of this is simply going to cement Roe V Wade forever.

Actually, it isn't.

The Court has expressly refused to state outright that abortion is a right. The operative right is one to privacy.

All of this legislation is being crafted very particularly so that the question the Court will be asked to determine is when does a person become a person.

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RE: Alabama just passed a near-total abortion ban with no exceptions for rape or incest
(05-16-2019 01:48 PM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  
(05-16-2019 01:15 PM)gdunn Wrote:  
(05-16-2019 01:09 PM)TTT Wrote:  Admittedly I haven't read this entire thread, maybe I should...but did Alabama actually pass a bill that if a woman is forcibly raped then she can't get an abortion? Help me understand this.
Best I can understand yep..

So much of this bothers me.. And I'm Pro-Life.


I think most pro lifers here feel the same way

I certainly do.
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RE: Alabama just passed a near-total abortion ban with no exceptions for rape or incest
(05-16-2019 03:19 PM)umbluegray Wrote:  
(05-16-2019 07:48 AM)Nittany_Bearcat Wrote:  
(05-16-2019 07:07 AM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote:  
(05-15-2019 09:49 PM)Nittany_Bearcat Wrote:  
(05-15-2019 09:38 PM)Captain Bearcat Wrote:  If a woman gets pregnant after being raped, that stinks. But it happens so rarely that it's not even worth discussing. 99.99% of abortions in America are 100% elective after consensual sex.

But it DOES happen. It's a topic that's absolutely worthy of discussion - we are not discussing something as ridiculous as "what if a woman gets pregnant after being shot full of alien semen from a Martian death ray gun?"

0.001% - Incest
0.065% - Life of mother
0.085% - Rape

All three of these components represent statistical zero you understand, right? 0.151% combined...

0.151% isn't zero. I mean, it's 1 in 662.

But if you want to talk about "statistical zero", we can get a number considerably closer to that.

Statistics tells us that:

(1) if you have 100,000 events and,
(2) each of those 100,000 events has a 0.151% (1 in 662) chance of being X,
(3) then the chances of NONE of those 100,000 events being X is 1 in 10 to the 66th power.

That is a whole lot closer to "statistical zero" than 0.151%.

Pregnancies due to rape do and will happen. That's just what it is. It's a legitimate question as to what we should do in those situations. It's intellectually dubious to argue that those instances will never happen.

Yes, pregnancies due to rape do and will happen. But, as we've demonstrated, those cases count for a small percentage of the total number of abortions performed annually.

According to the liberal, pro-abortion Guttmacher Institute, from 1973 through 2011 more than 50,000,000 abortions have been performed.

Check my math but .151% of 50,000,000 is 75,500 abortions over 38 years.

Which also means 49,924,500 babies have been killed simply for convenience.

49,924,500

75,500

Those who are pro-life understand that Americans will always favor allowing those very rare exceptions.

We also understand those who fight with all their might to continue murdering over 49.9 million people are kinda whacked.

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RE: Alabama just passed a near-total abortion ban with no exceptions for rape or incest
(05-16-2019 03:33 PM)bobdizole Wrote:  
(05-16-2019 03:19 PM)umbluegray Wrote:  
(05-16-2019 07:48 AM)Nittany_Bearcat Wrote:  
(05-16-2019 07:07 AM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote:  
(05-15-2019 09:49 PM)Nittany_Bearcat Wrote:  But it DOES happen. It's a topic that's absolutely worthy of discussion - we are not discussing something as ridiculous as "what if a woman gets pregnant after being shot full of alien semen from a Martian death ray gun?"

0.001% - Incest
0.065% - Life of mother
0.085% - Rape

All three of these components represent statistical zero you understand, right? 0.151% combined...

0.151% isn't zero. I mean, it's 1 in 662.

But if you want to talk about "statistical zero", we can get a number considerably closer to that.

Statistics tells us that:

(1) if you have 100,000 events and,
(2) each of those 100,000 events has a 0.151% (1 in 662) chance of being X,
(3) then the chances of NONE of those 100,000 events being X is 1 in 10 to the 66th power.

That is a whole lot closer to "statistical zero" than 0.151%.

Pregnancies due to rape do and will happen. That's just what it is. It's a legitimate question as to what we should do in those situations. It's intellectually dubious to argue that those instances will never happen.

Yes, pregnancies due to rape do and will happen. But, as we've demonstrated, those cases count for a small percentage of the total number of abortions performed annually.

According to the liberal, pro-abortion Guttmacher Institute, from 1973 through 2011 more than 50,000,000 abortions have been performed.

Check my math but .151% of 50,000,000 is 75,500 abortions over 38 years.

Which also means 49,924,500 babies have been killed simply for convenience.

49,924,500

75,500

Those who are pro-life understand that Americans will always favor allowing those very rare exceptions.

We also understand those who fight with all their might to continue murdering over 49.9 million people are kinda whacked.

You do know they passed a law with no exceptions right? When they could have passed a law with exceptions. No matter how rare it might be, it does happen. So why pass a law with no exceptions in it.

Because they're playing a longer game than what you're seeing. I doubt they ever expect this to pass muster and it will be appealed to the SCOTUS. That's their aim.

But, again, I agree that this bill - as written - has no place in our society without those exceptions.
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