(05-02-2019 01:17 PM)Hambone10 Wrote:  

(05-01-2019 10:12 PM)georgewebb Wrote:  I've known many conservatives who boycott particular business for political reasons -- but not a single one who makes a big show of it.

Agreed. In fairness, I know many liberals who do the same... but the whole idea of using 'volume' when you lack 'weight' does seem to be popular with the left.

I think one thing that might have something to do with this difference is the concept of 'virtue signalling'. The progressive side seems to value this more than the conservative/libertarian side, and the while the conservatives often run the 'exclusion' function on their own side based on issues, the concept of 'exclusion' and 'virtue signalling' seem to be reliably interlinked on the left. And, when one does not join 'virtue signal' vein, many times the left is the one calling on those who not join in the chorus in the vein as 'part of the problem'.

Thus, when there is a 'bogeyman' of any sort of prominence, the ultimate act of such 'virtue signalling' combines with the implicit 'you must vocalize your support for such a cause' in a very strong manner on the left. And from that combination you get the very vocal and omnipresent modus of boycotts. It is almost Maoist or 'Cultural Revolution'-esque in its formulation, imo.

For the life of me I cannot think of more than a handful of explicit boycott and calls for boycott from the right/libertarian side. I can, off the bat, think of two or three score from the progressive side.

(05-01-2019 10:12 PM)georgewebb Wrote:  I've known many conservatives who boycott particular business for political reasons -- but not a single one who makes a big show of it.

Did you miss all the videos of conservatives burning their Nikes over Colin Kaepernick? Or the Fox News fans destroying their Keurigs?

edit: your post said "I've known" so probably you're just referring to those in your circle. The point still stands, though, that liberals aren't the only ones who make a show of their boycotts.

(05-02-2019 02:52 PM)Rice93 Wrote:  

(05-01-2019 10:12 PM)georgewebb Wrote:  I've known many conservatives who boycott particular business for political reasons -- but not a single one who makes a big show of it.

Did you miss all the videos of conservatives burning their Nikes over Colin Kaepernick? Or the Fox News fans destroying their Keurigs?

edit: your post said "I've known" so probably you're just referring to those in your circle. The point still stands, though, that liberals aren't the only ones who make a show of their boycotts.

Lol.

I had forgotten about those. Probably because liberals don’t get nearly as worker up over conservatives boycotting companies. See thread.

(05-02-2019 02:52 PM)Rice93 Wrote:  

(05-01-2019 10:12 PM)georgewebb Wrote:  I've known many conservatives who boycott particular business for political reasons -- but not a single one who makes a big show of it.

Did you miss all the videos of conservatives burning their Nikes over Colin Kaepernick? Or the Fox News fans destroying their Keurigs?

edit: your post said "I've known" so probably you're just referring to those in your circle. The point still stands, though, that liberals aren't the only ones who make a show of their boycotts.

I missed them. And I still have my Keurig. Why were the Keurigs targeted, anyway?

Only real “boycott” I can remember was for Jane Fonda.

Liberals, OTOH, Boy Scouts, CFA, FCA, Anything Christian, Salvation Army, MrRa , guns, Harvey Weinstein, Joe Biden, Fox News, Hobby Lobby, Masterpiece Bakery, anything to do with the CSA, secret societies, the list goes on forever ,

(05-02-2019 04:05 PM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  

(05-02-2019 02:52 PM)Rice93 Wrote:  

(05-01-2019 10:12 PM)georgewebb Wrote:  I've known many conservatives who boycott particular business for political reasons -- but not a single one who makes a big show of it.

Did you miss all the videos of conservatives burning their Nikes over Colin Kaepernick? Or the Fox News fans destroying their Keurigs?

edit: your post said "I've known" so probably you're just referring to those in your circle. The point still stands, though, that liberals aren't the only ones who make a show of their boycotts.

I missed them. And I still have my Keurig. Why were the Keurigs targeted, anyway?

Only real “boycott” I can remember was for Jane Fonda.

Liberals, OTOH, Boy Scouts, CFA, FCA, Anything Christian, Salvation Army, MrRa , guns, Harvey Weinstein, Joe Biden, Fox News, Hobby Lobby, Masterpiece Bakery, anything to do with the CSA, secret societies, the list goes on forever ,

Because Keurig pulled their advertising from Fox News. I can't remember why.

French Fries --> Freedom Fries, NFL for "disrespecting" the National Anthem, Gillette because of their toxic masculinity ad, ESPN for political commentary, etc. etc. etc.

Did you really not notice the conservative outrage towards Nike re: Kaepernick?

(05-02-2019 04:21 PM)Rice93 Wrote:  

(05-02-2019 04:05 PM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  

(05-02-2019 02:52 PM)Rice93 Wrote:  

(05-01-2019 10:12 PM)georgewebb Wrote:  I've known many conservatives who boycott particular business for political reasons -- but not a single one who makes a big show of it.

Did you miss all the videos of conservatives burning their Nikes over Colin Kaepernick? Or the Fox News fans destroying their Keurigs?

edit: your post said "I've known" so probably you're just referring to those in your circle. The point still stands, though, that liberals aren't the only ones who make a show of their boycotts.

I missed them. And I still have my Keurig. Why were the Keurigs targeted, anyway?

Only real “boycott” I can remember was for Jane Fonda.

Liberals, OTOH, Boy Scouts, CFA, FCA, Anything Christian, Salvation Army, MrRa , guns, Harvey Weinstein, Joe Biden, Fox News, Hobby Lobby, Masterpiece Bakery, anything to do with the CSA, secret societies, the list goes on forever ,

Because Keurig pulled their advertising from Fox News. I can't remember why.

French Fries --> Freedom Fries, NFL for "disrespecting" the National Anthem, Gillette because of their toxic masculinity ad, ESPN for political commentary, etc. etc. etc.

Did you really not notice the conservative outrage towards Nike re: Kaepernick?

But don't you understand OO's outrage? Only liberals get outraged!

(05-02-2019 04:21 PM)Rice93 Wrote:  

(05-02-2019 04:05 PM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  

(05-02-2019 02:52 PM)Rice93 Wrote:  

(05-01-2019 10:12 PM)georgewebb Wrote:  I've known many conservatives who boycott particular business for political reasons -- but not a single one who makes a big show of it.

Did you miss all the videos of conservatives burning their Nikes over Colin Kaepernick? Or the Fox News fans destroying their Keurigs.
edit: your post said "I've known" so probably you're just referring to those in your circle. The point still stands, though, that liberals aren't the only ones who make a show of their boycotts.

I missed them. And I still have my Keurig. Why were the Keurigs targeted, anyway?
Only real “boycott” I can remember was for Jane Fonda.
Liberals, OTOH, Boy Scouts, CFA, FCA, Anything Christian, Salvation Army, MrRa , guns, Harvey Weinstein, Joe Biden, Fox News, Hobby Lobby, Masterpiece Bakery, anything to do with the CSA, secret societies, the list goes on forever ,

Because Keurig pulled their advertising from Fox News. I can't remember why.
French Fries --> Freedom Fries, NFL for "disrespecting" the National Anthem, Gillette because of their toxic masculinity ad, ESPN for political commentary, etc. etc. etc.
Did you really not notice the conservative outrage towards Nike re: Kaepernick?

The French fries thing was stupid. And I wouldn’t destroy anything that I had spent as money on as a Keurig or a pair of Nikes. But I wouldn’t buy any more, and I pretty much agree with the rest of them. And I don’t buy Ben & Jerry’s but I do patronize CFA.

(05-02-2019 03:31 PM)RiceLad15 Wrote:  

(05-02-2019 02:52 PM)Rice93 Wrote:  

(05-01-2019 10:12 PM)georgewebb Wrote:  I've known many conservatives who boycott particular business for political reasons -- but not a single one who makes a big show of it.

Did you miss all the videos of conservatives burning their Nikes over Colin Kaepernick? Or the Fox News fans destroying their Keurigs?

edit: your post said "I've known" so probably you're just referring to those in your circle. The point still stands, though, that liberals aren't the only ones who make a show of their boycotts.

Lol.

I had forgotten about those. Probably because liberals don’t get nearly as worker up over conservatives boycotting companies. See thread.

Probably because conservatives dont run down the path of boycotts -- I mean let's be real for every 1 'conservative' boycott there is probably 15 or 16 liberal-bent ones.

The act of a boycott has been part of the progressive knee-jerk response to any perceived wrong since the Cesar Chavez days. I find it odd that you overlook the sheer numbers in your analysis.

(05-02-2019 05:20 PM)tanqtonic Wrote:  

(05-02-2019 03:31 PM)RiceLad15 Wrote:  

(05-02-2019 02:52 PM)Rice93 Wrote:  

(05-01-2019 10:12 PM)georgewebb Wrote:  I've known many conservatives who boycott particular business for political reasons -- but not a single one who makes a big show of it.

Did you miss all the videos of conservatives burning their Nikes over Colin Kaepernick? Or the Fox News fans destroying their Keurigs?

edit: your post said "I've known" so probably you're just referring to those in your circle. The point still stands, though, that liberals aren't the only ones who make a show of their boycotts.

Lol.

I had forgotten about those. Probably because liberals don’t get nearly as worker up over conservatives boycotting companies. See thread.

Probably because conservatives dont run down the path of boycotts -- I mean let's be real for every 1 'conservative' boycott there is probably 15 or 16 liberal-bent ones.

The act of a boycott has been part of the progressive knee-jerk response to any perceived wrong since the Cesar Chavez days. I find it odd that you overlook the sheer numbers in your analysis.

You're reaching a bit on "overlooking the sheer numbers" comment. The original comment this was responding to basically said that conservatives didn't do these loud, boisterous boycotts. Rice93 made it clear that it wasn't true - there have been conservative freak outs and boycotts in the past.

OO said:

Quote: But....but....but, only bad people should have their products boycotted. Only conservatives are bad people.

OO also said he only remembers a Jane Fonda boycott (I happen to remember a Dixie Chicks boycott too).

George's quote about not knowing any conservatives is listed above, and Ham agreed with it.

(05-02-2019 05:20 PM)tanqtonic Wrote:  

(05-02-2019 03:31 PM)RiceLad15 Wrote:  

(05-02-2019 02:52 PM)Rice93 Wrote:  

(05-01-2019 10:12 PM)georgewebb Wrote:  I've known many conservatives who boycott particular business for political reasons -- but not a single one who makes a big show of it.

Did you miss all the videos of conservatives burning their Nikes over Colin Kaepernick? Or the Fox News fans destroying their Keurigs?

edit: your post said "I've known" so probably you're just referring to those in your circle. The point still stands, though, that liberals aren't the only ones who make a show of their boycotts.

Lol.

I had forgotten about those. Probably because liberals don’t get nearly as worker up over conservatives boycotting companies. See thread.

Probably because conservatives dont run down the path of boycotts -- I mean let's be real for every 1 'conservative' boycott there is probably 15 or 16 liberal-bent ones.

The act of a boycott has been part of the progressive knee-jerk response to any perceived wrong since the Cesar Chavez days. I find it odd that you overlook the sheer numbers in your analysis.

I am way too lazy to undertake a numerical comparison of liberal versus conservative boycotts over the last couple decades. I bet if I spent a couple minutes thinking about it I could provide a further list of boycotts over the last couple years. Dick’s Sporting Goods was boycotted regarding pulling guns off the shelves. Locally, Pi Pizza was boycotted because they did not allow open carry.

We are all likely biased in that we remember the boycotts suggested by the other side because they were annoying to us. I can guarantee you that there is a lengthy list on both sides. To suggest that this is simply a liberal action is simply wrong.

(05-02-2019 02:52 PM)Rice93 Wrote:  

(05-01-2019 10:12 PM)georgewebb Wrote:  I've known many conservatives who boycott particular business for political reasons -- but not a single one who makes a big show of it.

Did you miss all the videos of conservatives burning their Nikes over Colin Kaepernick? Or the Fox News fans destroying their Keurigs?

edit: your post said "I've known" so probably you're just referring to those in your circle.

I used the phrase "I've known" because I was referring to people I've known. They are not necessarily close friends or people I spend much time with, but they are people I've known.

(05-02-2019 05:50 PM)Rice93 Wrote:  

(05-02-2019 05:20 PM)tanqtonic Wrote:  

(05-02-2019 03:31 PM)RiceLad15 Wrote:  

(05-02-2019 02:52 PM)Rice93 Wrote:  

(05-01-2019 10:12 PM)georgewebb Wrote:  I've known many conservatives who boycott particular business for political reasons -- but not a single one who makes a big show of it.

Did you miss all the videos of conservatives burning their Nikes over Colin Kaepernick? Or the Fox News fans destroying their Keurigs?

edit: your post said "I've known" so probably you're just referring to those in your circle. The point still stands, though, that liberals aren't the only ones who make a show of their boycotts.

Lol.

I had forgotten about those. Probably because liberals don’t get nearly as worker up over conservatives boycotting companies. See thread.

Probably because conservatives dont run down the path of boycotts -- I mean let's be real for every 1 'conservative' boycott there is probably 15 or 16 liberal-bent ones.

The act of a boycott has been part of the progressive knee-jerk response to any perceived wrong since the Cesar Chavez days. I find it odd that you overlook the sheer numbers in your analysis.

I am way too lazy to undertake a numerical comparison of liberal versus conservative boycotts over the last couple decades. I bet if I spent a couple minutes thinking about it I could provide a further list of boycotts over the last couple years. Dick’s Sporting Goods was boycotted regarding pulling guns off the shelves. Locally, Pi Pizza was boycotted because they did not allow open carry.

We are all likely biased in that we remember the boycotts suggested by the other side because they were annoying to us. I can guarantee you that there is a lengthy list on both sides. To suggest that this is simply a liberal action is simply wrong.

Well, without even thinking about it I can come up with a score of liberal-based boycott efforts. I am not saying it is 'simply a liberal action' -- please read.

I *am* saying that progressives seem to get into far more of them, and tbh, the progressive psyche and history is far more firmly rooted in mass explicit social movements and demonstrations than the conservative psyche.

I mean, jeezus fing krist, Fox and Fox commentators alone have had probably more boycotts directed against them than the sum total of ones you can toss up. And dont forget those against Rush, and against literally *every* conservative host that has sat in front of a camera.

Not to mention grapes, BDS, apartheid, about 20 LGBT based, about another 20 rainforest/logging ones, about 9 or ten against BP, every other year a new one by various states because of MLK day.

On top of that you have full friggin' articles on all the anti-Trump stuff, including about 25-30 for Ivanka's clothing alone: Ivanka-cott .

And, hey, here is another 35 or so for being some combination of pro-2nd amendment (or in prog-speak 'gun related practices') or you carry Trump wine or somefink like that:
List Master of Ongoing 'Bad Guns' and 'anything Trump' boycott

(who has a related page of 153!! companies 'on the bubble' for **** like this as well here: 'On the Radar Alert'

It's not a negative at all. Hell, I'm awed by the mastery of boycott-fu by the progressive side, tbh.

But y'all seem to not like accepting what is inherently been in the progressive DNA from somewhere around 1967 to the present day. Good grief....

(05-02-2019 08:08 PM)tanqtonic Wrote:  

(05-02-2019 05:50 PM)Rice93 Wrote:  

(05-02-2019 05:20 PM)tanqtonic Wrote:  

(05-02-2019 03:31 PM)RiceLad15 Wrote:  

(05-02-2019 02:52 PM)Rice93 Wrote:  Did you miss all the videos of conservatives burning their Nikes over Colin Kaepernick? Or the Fox News fans destroying their Keurigs?

edit: your post said "I've known" so probably you're just referring to those in your circle. The point still stands, though, that liberals aren't the only ones who make a show of their boycotts.

Lol.

I had forgotten about those. Probably because liberals don’t get nearly as worker up over conservatives boycotting companies. See thread.

Probably because conservatives dont run down the path of boycotts -- I mean let's be real for every 1 'conservative' boycott there is probably 15 or 16 liberal-bent ones.

The act of a boycott has been part of the progressive knee-jerk response to any perceived wrong since the Cesar Chavez days. I find it odd that you overlook the sheer numbers in your analysis.

I am way too lazy to undertake a numerical comparison of liberal versus conservative boycotts over the last couple decades. I bet if I spent a couple minutes thinking about it I could provide a further list of boycotts over the last couple years. Dick’s Sporting Goods was boycotted regarding pulling guns off the shelves. Locally, Pi Pizza was boycotted because they did not allow open carry.

We are all likely biased in that we remember the boycotts suggested by the other side because they were annoying to us. I can guarantee you that there is a lengthy list on both sides. To suggest that this is simply a liberal action is simply wrong.

Well, without even thinking about it I can come up with a score of liberal-based boycott efforts. I am not saying it is 'simply a liberal action' -- please read.

I *am* saying that progressives seem to get into far more of them, and tbh, the progressive psyche and history is far more firmly rooted in mass explicit social movements and demonstrations than the conservative psyche.

I mean, jeezus fing krist, Fox and Fox commentators alone have had probably more boycotts directed against them than the sum total of ones you can toss up. And dont forget those against Rush, and against literally *every* conservative host that has sat in front of a camera.

Not to mention grapes, BDS, apartheid, about 20 LGBT based, about another 20 rainforest/logging ones, about 9 or ten against BP, every other year a new one by various states because of MLK day.

On top of that you have full friggin' articles on all the anti-Trump stuff, including about 25-30 for Ivanka's clothing alone: Ivanka-cott .

And, hey, here is another 35 or so for being some combination of pro-2nd amendment (or in prog-speak 'gun related practices') or you carry Trump wine or somefink like that:
List Master of Ongoing 'Bad Guns' and 'anything Trump' boycott

(who has a related page of 153!! companies 'on the bubble' for **** like this as well here: 'On the Radar Alert'

It's not a negative at all. Hell, I'm awed by the mastery of boycott-fu by the progressive side, tbh.

But y'all seem to not like accepting what is inherently been in the progressive DNA from somewhere around 1967 to the present day. Good grief....

I don't think either of us are trying to say the words you're putting in our mouths (see bold).

What I'm trying to say by agreeing with Rice93, is that this is not a solely liberal characteristic. If you want me to say if I think it's more common to see liberals of conservatives attempt to use a boycott to affect change, I think there is a definite bend towards the liberal. If anything, because they are often in favor of pushing societal norms forward, which is the opposite position of conservatives (hence why liberals are labeled progressives and conservatives, well conservative).

(05-02-2019 08:24 PM)RiceLad15 Wrote:  What I'm trying to say by agreeing with Rice93, is that this is not a solely liberal characteristic. If you want me to say if I think it's more common to see liberals of conservatives attempt to use a boycott to affect change, I think there is a definite bend towards the liberal. If anything, because they are often in favor of pushing societal norms forward, which is the opposite position of conservatives (hence why liberals are labeled progressives and conservatives, well conservative).

Progressives are interested in pushing societal norms somewhere. I wouldn't necessarily call the direction forward. Forward implies a positive direction, and I see most "progressive" ideas as more negative than positive.

(05-02-2019 08:24 PM)RiceLad15 Wrote:  

(05-02-2019 08:08 PM)tanqtonic Wrote:  

(05-02-2019 05:50 PM)Rice93 Wrote:  

(05-02-2019 05:20 PM)tanqtonic Wrote:  

(05-02-2019 03:31 PM)RiceLad15 Wrote:  Lol.

I had forgotten about those. Probably because liberals don’t get nearly as worker up over conservatives boycotting companies. See thread.

Probably because conservatives dont run down the path of boycotts -- I mean let's be real for every 1 'conservative' boycott there is probably 15 or 16 liberal-bent ones.

The act of a boycott has been part of the progressive knee-jerk response to any perceived wrong since the Cesar Chavez days. I find it odd that you overlook the sheer numbers in your analysis.

I am way too lazy to undertake a numerical comparison of liberal versus conservative boycotts over the last couple decades. I bet if I spent a couple minutes thinking about it I could provide a further list of boycotts over the last couple years. Dick’s Sporting Goods was boycotted regarding pulling guns off the shelves. Locally, Pi Pizza was boycotted because they did not allow open carry.

We are all likely biased in that we remember the boycotts suggested by the other side because they were annoying to us. I can guarantee you that there is a lengthy list on both sides. To suggest that this is simply a liberal action is simply wrong.

Well, without even thinking about it I can come up with a score of liberal-based boycott efforts. I am not saying it is 'simply a liberal action' -- please read.

I *am* saying that progressives seem to get into far more of them, and tbh, the progressive psyche and history is far more firmly rooted in mass explicit social movements and demonstrations than the conservative psyche.

I mean, jeezus fing krist, Fox and Fox commentators alone have had probably more boycotts directed against them than the sum total of ones you can toss up. And dont forget those against Rush, and against literally *every* conservative host that has sat in front of a camera.

Not to mention grapes, BDS, apartheid, about 20 LGBT based, about another 20 rainforest/logging ones, about 9 or ten against BP, every other year a new one by various states because of MLK day.

On top of that you have full friggin' articles on all the anti-Trump stuff, including about 25-30 for Ivanka's clothing alone: Ivanka-cott .

And, hey, here is another 35 or so for being some combination of pro-2nd amendment (or in prog-speak 'gun related practices') or you carry Trump wine or somefink like that:
List Master of Ongoing 'Bad Guns' and 'anything Trump' boycott

(who has a related page of 153!! companies 'on the bubble' for **** like this as well here: 'On the Radar Alert'

It's not a negative at all. Hell, I'm awed by the mastery of boycott-fu by the progressive side, tbh.

But y'all seem to not like accepting what is inherently been in the progressive DNA from somewhere around 1967 to the present day. Good grief....

I don't think either of us are trying to say the words you're putting in our mouths (see bold).

What I'm trying to say by agreeing with Rice93, is that this is not a solely liberal characteristic. If you want me to say if I think it's more common to see liberals of conservatives attempt to use a boycott to affect change, I think there is a definite bend towards the liberal. If anything, because they are often in favor of pushing societal norms forward, which is the opposite position of conservatives (hence why liberals are labeled progressives and conservatives, well conservative).

And please do tell where I have argued that, or even implied that? I actually agree with your assessment when you actually read what I have put out there.

Example:

Quote:I mean let's be real for every 1 'conservative' boycott there is probably 15 or 16 liberal-bent ones.

Example two:

Quote:I am not saying it is 'simply a liberal action'

Example three:

Quote:I *am* saying that progressives seem to get into far more of them, and tbh, the progressive psyche and history is far more firmly rooted in mass explicit social movements and demonstrations than the conservative psyche.

Yet you focus on a single sentence and render judgement devoid of any context about that sentence. Then complain about that I am putting 'words in your mouth' when you absolutely and utterly mischaracterize my own. Brilliant.

(05-02-2019 08:08 PM)tanqtonic Wrote:  (who has a related page of 153!! companies 'on the bubble' for **** like this as well here: 'On the Radar Alert'

Um... this guy?

http://www.investingadvicewatchdog.com/L...ycott.html

(05-02-2019 08:37 PM)tanqtonic Wrote:  

(05-02-2019 08:24 PM)RiceLad15 Wrote:  

(05-02-2019 08:08 PM)tanqtonic Wrote:  

(05-02-2019 05:50 PM)Rice93 Wrote:  

(05-02-2019 05:20 PM)tanqtonic Wrote:  Probably because conservatives dont run down the path of boycotts -- I mean let's be real for every 1 'conservative' boycott there is probably 15 or 16 liberal-bent ones.

The act of a boycott has been part of the progressive knee-jerk response to any perceived wrong since the Cesar Chavez days. I find it odd that you overlook the sheer numbers in your analysis.

I am way too lazy to undertake a numerical comparison of liberal versus conservative boycotts over the last couple decades. I bet if I spent a couple minutes thinking about it I could provide a further list of boycotts over the last couple years. Dick’s Sporting Goods was boycotted regarding pulling guns off the shelves. Locally, Pi Pizza was boycotted because they did not allow open carry.

We are all likely biased in that we remember the boycotts suggested by the other side because they were annoying to us. I can guarantee you that there is a lengthy list on both sides. To suggest that this is simply a liberal action is simply wrong.

Well, without even thinking about it I can come up with a score of liberal-based boycott efforts. I am not saying it is 'simply a liberal action' -- please read.

I *am* saying that progressives seem to get into far more of them, and tbh, the progressive psyche and history is far more firmly rooted in mass explicit social movements and demonstrations than the conservative psyche.

I mean, jeezus fing krist, Fox and Fox commentators alone have had probably more boycotts directed against them than the sum total of ones you can toss up. And dont forget those against Rush, and against literally *every* conservative host that has sat in front of a camera.

Not to mention grapes, BDS, apartheid, about 20 LGBT based, about another 20 rainforest/logging ones, about 9 or ten against BP, every other year a new one by various states because of MLK day.

On top of that you have full friggin' articles on all the anti-Trump stuff, including about 25-30 for Ivanka's clothing alone: Ivanka-cott .

And, hey, here is another 35 or so for being some combination of pro-2nd amendment (or in prog-speak 'gun related practices') or you carry Trump wine or somefink like that:
List Master of Ongoing 'Bad Guns' and 'anything Trump' boycott

(who has a related page of 153!! companies 'on the bubble' for **** like this as well here: 'On the Radar Alert'

It's not a negative at all. Hell, I'm awed by the mastery of boycott-fu by the progressive side, tbh.

But y'all seem to not like accepting what is inherently been in the progressive DNA from somewhere around 1967 to the present day. Good grief....

I don't think either of us are trying to say the words you're putting in our mouths (see bold).

What I'm trying to say by agreeing with Rice93, is that this is not a solely liberal characteristic. If you want me to say if I think it's more common to see liberals of conservatives attempt to use a boycott to affect change, I think there is a definite bend towards the liberal. If anything, because they are often in favor of pushing societal norms forward, which is the opposite position of conservatives (hence why liberals are labeled progressives and conservatives, well conservative).

And please do tell where I have argued that, or even implied that? I actually agree with your assessment when you actually read what I have put out there.

Example:

Quote:I mean let's be real for every 1 'conservative' boycott there is probably 15 or 16 liberal-bent ones.

Example two:

Quote:I am not saying it is 'simply a liberal action'

Example three:

Quote:I *am* saying that progressives seem to get into far more of them, and tbh, the progressive psyche and history is far more firmly rooted in mass explicit social movements and demonstrations than the conservative psyche.

Yet you focus on a single sentence and render judgement devoid of any context about that sentence. Then complain about that I am putting 'words in your mouth' when you absolutely and utterly mischaracterize my own. Brilliant.

Tanq, the only reason I started responding to you, was that you put words in my mouth.

If you noticed, I never quoted you when I referenced posts that said conservatives didn't do boycotts...

I rendered 0 judgments your way.

(05-02-2019 08:50 PM)RiceLad15 Wrote:  

(05-02-2019 08:37 PM)tanqtonic Wrote:  

(05-02-2019 08:24 PM)RiceLad15 Wrote:  

(05-02-2019 08:08 PM)tanqtonic Wrote:  

(05-02-2019 05:50 PM)Rice93 Wrote:  I am way too lazy to undertake a numerical comparison of liberal versus conservative boycotts over the last couple decades. I bet if I spent a couple minutes thinking about it I could provide a further list of boycotts over the last couple years. Dick’s Sporting Goods was boycotted regarding pulling guns off the shelves. Locally, Pi Pizza was boycotted because they did not allow open carry.

We are all likely biased in that we remember the boycotts suggested by the other side because they were annoying to us. I can guarantee you that there is a lengthy list on both sides. To suggest that this is simply a liberal action is simply wrong.

Well, without even thinking about it I can come up with a score of liberal-based boycott efforts. I am not saying it is 'simply a liberal action' -- please read.

I *am* saying that progressives seem to get into far more of them, and tbh, the progressive psyche and history is far more firmly rooted in mass explicit social movements and demonstrations than the conservative psyche.

I mean, jeezus fing krist, Fox and Fox commentators alone have had probably more boycotts directed against them than the sum total of ones you can toss up. And dont forget those against Rush, and against literally *every* conservative host that has sat in front of a camera.

Not to mention grapes, BDS, apartheid, about 20 LGBT based, about another 20 rainforest/logging ones, about 9 or ten against BP, every other year a new one by various states because of MLK day.

On top of that you have full friggin' articles on all the anti-Trump stuff, including about 25-30 for Ivanka's clothing alone: Ivanka-cott .

And, hey, here is another 35 or so for being some combination of pro-2nd amendment (or in prog-speak 'gun related practices') or you carry Trump wine or somefink like that:
List Master of Ongoing 'Bad Guns' and 'anything Trump' boycott

(who has a related page of 153!! companies 'on the bubble' for **** like this as well here: 'On the Radar Alert'

It's not a negative at all. Hell, I'm awed by the mastery of boycott-fu by the progressive side, tbh.

But y'all seem to not like accepting what is inherently been in the progressive DNA from somewhere around 1967 to the present day. Good grief....

I don't think either of us are trying to say the words you're putting in our mouths (see bold).

What I'm trying to say by agreeing with Rice93, is that this is not a solely liberal characteristic. If you want me to say if I think it's more common to see liberals of conservatives attempt to use a boycott to affect change, I think there is a definite bend towards the liberal. If anything, because they are often in favor of pushing societal norms forward, which is the opposite position of conservatives (hence why liberals are labeled progressives and conservatives, well conservative).

And please do tell where I have argued that, or even implied that? I actually agree with your assessment when you actually read what I have put out there.

Example:

Quote:I mean let's be real for every 1 'conservative' boycott there is probably 15 or 16 liberal-bent ones.

Example two:

Quote:I am not saying it is 'simply a liberal action'

Example three:

Quote:I *am* saying that progressives seem to get into far more of them, and tbh, the progressive psyche and history is far more firmly rooted in mass explicit social movements and demonstrations than the conservative psyche.

Yet you focus on a single sentence and render judgement devoid of any context about that sentence. Then complain about that I am putting 'words in your mouth' when you absolutely and utterly mischaracterize my own. Brilliant.

Tanq, the only reason I started responding to you, was that you put words in my mouth.

If you noticed, I never quoted you when I referenced posts that said conservatives didn't do boycotts...

I rendered 0 judgments your way.

Lad, you specifically responded that

Quote:What I'm trying to say ... is that this is not a solely liberal characteristic

with a whine to a comment of mine about boycotts being in the liberal DNA for a long friggin' time.

My point is that I never fing said that 'this is ... solely a liberal characteristic' in any way, shape, or form that you squawk about above. Talk about fing 'putt[ing] words in [someone else's] mouth'. Good lord.

And to be blunt, it is entirely clear that Rice93 believes that the 'numbers are equal' or somefink as stupid as that. So the comment about 'y'all seem to not like accepting what is inherently been in the progressive DNA from somewhere around 1967 to the present day' seems pretty much on point with that reluctance to even see what you (and I) seem to agree as to the proclivity of the progs to boycott vs the proclivity of conservatives to boycott.

If you also bother to notice --- the comment about 'not like accepting what is inherently been in the progressive DNA from somewhere around 1967 to the present day' was in response to Rice93 and not you.

(05-02-2019 09:06 PM)tanqtonic Wrote:  

(05-02-2019 08:50 PM)RiceLad15 Wrote:  

(05-02-2019 08:37 PM)tanqtonic Wrote:  

(05-02-2019 08:24 PM)RiceLad15 Wrote:  

(05-02-2019 08:08 PM)tanqtonic Wrote:  Well, without even thinking about it I can come up with a score of liberal-based boycott efforts. I am not saying it is 'simply a liberal action' -- please read.

I *am* saying that progressives seem to get into far more of them, and tbh, the progressive psyche and history is far more firmly rooted in mass explicit social movements and demonstrations than the conservative psyche.

I mean, jeezus fing krist, Fox and Fox commentators alone have had probably more boycotts directed against them than the sum total of ones you can toss up. And dont forget those against Rush, and against literally *every* conservative host that has sat in front of a camera.

Not to mention grapes, BDS, apartheid, about 20 LGBT based, about another 20 rainforest/logging ones, about 9 or ten against BP, every other year a new one by various states because of MLK day.

On top of that you have full friggin' articles on all the anti-Trump stuff, including about 25-30 for Ivanka's clothing alone: Ivanka-cott .

And, hey, here is another 35 or so for being some combination of pro-2nd amendment (or in prog-speak 'gun related practices') or you carry Trump wine or somefink like that:
List Master of Ongoing 'Bad Guns' and 'anything Trump' boycott

(who has a related page of 153!! companies 'on the bubble' for **** like this as well here: 'On the Radar Alert'

It's not a negative at all. Hell, I'm awed by the mastery of boycott-fu by the progressive side, tbh.

But y'all seem to not like accepting what is inherently been in the progressive DNA from somewhere around 1967 to the present day. Good grief....

I don't think either of us are trying to say the words you're putting in our mouths (see bold).

What I'm trying to say by agreeing with Rice93, is that this is not a solely liberal characteristic. If you want me to say if I think it's more common to see liberals of conservatives attempt to use a boycott to affect change, I think there is a definite bend towards the liberal. If anything, because they are often in favor of pushing societal norms forward, which is the opposite position of conservatives (hence why liberals are labeled progressives and conservatives, well conservative).

And please do tell where I have argued that, or even implied that? I actually agree with your assessment when you actually read what I have put out there.

Example:

Quote:I mean let's be real for every 1 'conservative' boycott there is probably 15 or 16 liberal-bent ones.

Example two:

Quote:I am not saying it is 'simply a liberal action'

Example three:

Quote:I *am* saying that progressives seem to get into far more of them, and tbh, the progressive psyche and history is far more firmly rooted in mass explicit social movements and demonstrations than the conservative psyche.

Yet you focus on a single sentence and render judgement devoid of any context about that sentence. Then complain about that I am putting 'words in your mouth' when you absolutely and utterly mischaracterize my own. Brilliant.

Tanq, the only reason I started responding to you, was that you put words in my mouth.

If you noticed, I never quoted you when I referenced posts that said conservatives didn't do boycotts...

I rendered 0 judgments your way.

Lad, you specifically responded that

Quote:What I'm trying to say ... is that this is not a solely liberal characteristic

with a whine to a comment of mine about boycotts being in the liberal DNA for a long friggin' time.

My point is that I never fing said that 'this is ... solely a liberal characteristic' in any way, shape, or form that you squawk about above. Talk about fing 'putt[ing] words in [someone else's] mouth'. Good lord.

And to be blunt, it is entirely clear that Rice93 believes that the 'numbers are equal' or somefink as stupid as that. So the comment about 'y'all seem to not like accepting what is inherently been in the progressive DNA from somewhere around 1967 to the present day' seems pretty much on point with that reluctance to even see what you (and I) seem to agree as to the proclivity of the progs to boycott vs the proclivity of conservatives to boycott.

If you also bother to notice --- the comment about 'not like accepting what is inherently been in the progressive DNA from somewhere around 1967 to the present day' was in response to Rice93 and not you.

Ok, go ahead and literally tell me what I was saying, when I know what I was saying. Go ahead and tell me what I was "whining" about.

I was trying to clarify my post, which specifically referenced OO and George's posts, NOT yours, since you obviously misinterpreted my post. But please, keep telling me what I was whining about, you seem to understand my thoughts better than I do.

By the way, why insert such a pejorative word such as "whine"?

(05-02-2019 05:32 PM)RiceLad15 Wrote:  

(05-02-2019 05:20 PM)tanqtonic Wrote:  

(05-02-2019 03:31 PM)RiceLad15 Wrote:  

(05-02-2019 02:52 PM)Rice93 Wrote:  

(05-01-2019 10:12 PM)georgewebb Wrote:  I've known many conservatives who boycott particular business for political reasons -- but not a single one who makes a big show of it.

Did you miss all the videos of conservatives burning their Nikes over Colin Kaepernick? Or the Fox News fans destroying their Keurigs?

edit: your post said "I've known" so probably you're just referring to those in your circle. The point still stands, though, that liberals aren't the only ones who make a show of their boycotts.

Lol.

I had forgotten about those. Probably because liberals don’t get nearly as worker up over conservatives boycotting companies. See thread.

Probably because conservatives dont run down the path of boycotts -- I mean let's be real for every 1 'conservative' boycott there is probably 15 or 16 liberal-bent ones.

The act of a boycott has been part of the progressive knee-jerk response to any perceived wrong since the Cesar Chavez days. I find it odd that you overlook the sheer numbers in your analysis.

You're reaching a bit on "overlooking the sheer numbers" comment. The original comment this was responding to basically said that conservatives didn't do these loud, boisterous boycotts. Rice93 made it clear that it wasn't true - there have been conservative freak outs and boycotts in the past.

OO said:

Quote: But....but....but, only bad people should have their products boycotted. Only conservatives are bad people.

OO also said he only remembers a Jane Fonda boycott (I happen to remember a Dixie Chicks boycott too).

George's quote about not knowing any conservatives is listed above, and Ham agreed with it.

Ah, the dixie chicks. I have never bought any of their music since, nor have I gone to any of their concerts. Guess that counts as a boycott.

Of course, the fact that I never bought any of their music before and never attended a concert of theirs before might argue that I didn't change my behavior toward them one whit.

But that's just me. I don't know if anybody actually stopped buying/listening to their music. But it sure wasn't an organized effort. Did the Fellowship of Christian Athletes carry signs outside their venues, or what? Did the Salvation Army wear bandannas and attack concert goers?

I also kept watching Fonda's movies, and her workout video was not too bad. I guess it was OK with "progressives" when she went to Hanoi. It was a Democrat's war. Who was more progressive than LBJ?