RE: Ilhan Omar Controversy Containment Thread For The Week 2/10-2/16
(02-13-2019 10:13 AM)bullet Wrote:
(02-13-2019 10:06 AM)NIU007 Wrote: How does Israel help us strategically?
From the left who love to step in to make a mess in Libya and Serbia for humanitarian reasons? We should step aside and let the Jews get massacred again?
But I don't know what that has to do with the Democrats anti-semitism.
I asked what Israel can do for us, not what we can do for Israel. Maybe she is anti-Semitic but that article only included one quote of hers, maybe two.
RE: Ilhan Omar Controversy Containment Thread For The Week 2/10-2/16
(02-12-2019 05:54 PM)NIU007 Wrote: I think it's being way overstated. There's the one statement about Israel "hypnotizing". Anything else?
When Omar said that people that criticized her would likely be labelled as anti-Muslim, she's saying the truth. She's not saying that's how it should be. I don't understand Latz's issue with that. And she's also right that there are a lot of groups giving money to politicians. In my opinion, it's excessive.
I guess you chose to ignore my posts? She was dog whistling to the anti Semites that the Jews were "at it again" trying to buy up power and influence with their "dirty Jew money". THIS is what the Nazi's promoted as an excuse to go after the Jews. Sadly, the Nazi party wasn't alone in their way of thinking, because the reality is that virtually ALL OF EUROPE (and much of the U.S.A.) had views sympathetic to the Nazi's. The only reason why the Nazi's are abhorred today is because they took their hate of the jews too far and put into action the Final Solution.
Frankly, I don't understand how you can't see this?
RE: Ilhan Omar Controversy Containment Thread For The Week 2/10-2/16
(02-13-2019 11:56 AM)miko33 Wrote:
(02-12-2019 05:54 PM)NIU007 Wrote: I think it's being way overstated. There's the one statement about Israel "hypnotizing". Anything else?
When Omar said that people that criticized her would likely be labelled as anti-Muslim, she's saying the truth. She's not saying that's how it should be. I don't understand Latz's issue with that. And she's also right that there are a lot of groups giving money to politicians. In my opinion, it's excessive.
I guess you chose to ignore my posts? She was dog whistling to the anti Semites that the Jews were "at it again" trying to buy up power and influence with their "dirty Jew money". THIS is what the Nazi's promoted as an excuse to go after the Jews. Sadly, the Nazi party wasn't alone in their way of thinking, because the reality is that virtually ALL OF EUROPE (and much of the U.S.A.) had views sympathetic to the Nazi's. The only reason why the Nazi's are abhorred today is because they took their hate of the jews too far and put into action the Final Solution.
Frankly, I don't understand how you can't see this?
Or as the Post article linked says:
"...While there’s not always a bright line between legitimate criticism and veiled anti-Semitism, a consistent one is when someone says Israel has no right to exist as a Jewish state, or demands policies that would lead to the same outcome.
As a test, the next time you hear someone make such comments, ask what other countries also have no right to exist. Chances are you won’t get an answer, just an assault on Israel over its treatment of Palestinians or some other supposed injustice against mankind.
And let’s not waste time discussing the United Nations, where the general tone is that the world would be a better place if Jews would disappear.
Even the anti-Semites among Democrats don’t go that far, at least publicly. But much of the party, and many of its young members, are guilty of singling out Israel for condemnation while ignoring the same practices by other nations...."
RE: Ilhan Omar Controversy Containment Thread For The Week 2/10-2/16
(02-13-2019 11:56 AM)miko33 Wrote:
(02-12-2019 05:54 PM)NIU007 Wrote: I think it's being way overstated. There's the one statement about Israel "hypnotizing". Anything else?
When Omar said that people that criticized her would likely be labelled as anti-Muslim, she's saying the truth. She's not saying that's how it should be. I don't understand Latz's issue with that. And she's also right that there are a lot of groups giving money to politicians. In my opinion, it's excessive.
I guess you chose to ignore my posts? She was dog whistling to the anti Semites that the Jews were "at it again" trying to buy up power and influence with their "dirty Jew money". THIS is what the Nazi's promoted as an excuse to go after the Jews. Sadly, the Nazi party wasn't alone in their way of thinking, because the reality is that virtually ALL OF EUROPE (and much of the U.S.A.) had views sympathetic to the Nazi's. The only reason why the Nazi's are abhorred today is because they took their hate of the jews too far and put into action the Final Solution.
Frankly, I don't understand how you can't see this?
I saw your posts but you didn't list any other statements that she actually made other than that one in the article. What else did she say?
RE: Ilhan Omar Controversy Containment Thread For The Week 2/10-2/16
(02-13-2019 10:06 AM)NIU007 Wrote: How does Israel help us strategically?
They are a vital intelligence partner in a region where we have few reliable partners.
They also share information about the effectiveness of military equipment and tactics. The air strikes they've done recently against Syria? Rest assured that within hours our people had that data.
RE: Ilhan Omar Controversy Containment Thread For The Week 2/10-2/16
(02-13-2019 12:18 PM)NIU007 Wrote:
(02-13-2019 11:56 AM)miko33 Wrote:
(02-12-2019 05:54 PM)NIU007 Wrote: I think it's being way overstated. There's the one statement about Israel "hypnotizing". Anything else?
When Omar said that people that criticized her would likely be labelled as anti-Muslim, she's saying the truth. She's not saying that's how it should be. I don't understand Latz's issue with that. And she's also right that there are a lot of groups giving money to politicians. In my opinion, it's excessive.
I guess you chose to ignore my posts? She was dog whistling to the anti Semites that the Jews were "at it again" trying to buy up power and influence with their "dirty Jew money". THIS is what the Nazi's promoted as an excuse to go after the Jews. Sadly, the Nazi party wasn't alone in their way of thinking, because the reality is that virtually ALL OF EUROPE (and much of the U.S.A.) had views sympathetic to the Nazi's. The only reason why the Nazi's are abhorred today is because they took their hate of the jews too far and put into action the Final Solution.
Frankly, I don't understand how you can't see this?
I saw your posts but you didn't list any other statements that she actually made other than that one in the article. What else did she say?
That wasn't the point of my posts. You didn't seem to understand how the statement she made in the OP link could be considered anti semitic. I gave you the context for why those types of gross generalizations about Jewish groups spending money are routinely made by anti semites.
RE: Ilhan Omar Controversy Containment Thread For The Week 2/10-2/16
(02-13-2019 01:21 PM)miko33 Wrote:
(02-13-2019 12:18 PM)NIU007 Wrote:
(02-13-2019 11:56 AM)miko33 Wrote:
(02-12-2019 05:54 PM)NIU007 Wrote: I think it's being way overstated. There's the one statement about Israel "hypnotizing". Anything else?
When Omar said that people that criticized her would likely be labelled as anti-Muslim, she's saying the truth. She's not saying that's how it should be. I don't understand Latz's issue with that. And she's also right that there are a lot of groups giving money to politicians. In my opinion, it's excessive.
I guess you chose to ignore my posts? She was dog whistling to the anti Semites that the Jews were "at it again" trying to buy up power and influence with their "dirty Jew money". THIS is what the Nazi's promoted as an excuse to go after the Jews. Sadly, the Nazi party wasn't alone in their way of thinking, because the reality is that virtually ALL OF EUROPE (and much of the U.S.A.) had views sympathetic to the Nazi's. The only reason why the Nazi's are abhorred today is because they took their hate of the jews too far and put into action the Final Solution.
Frankly, I don't understand how you can't see this?
I saw your posts but you didn't list any other statements that she actually made other than that one in the article. What else did she say?
That wasn't the point of my posts. You didn't seem to understand how the statement she made in the OP link could be considered anti semitic. I gave you the context for why those types of gross generalizations about Jewish groups spending money are routinely made by anti semites.
That's one of the generational issues Miko. The kids of the last 25 years or so have never been exposed to the kinds of anti Semitic stereotypes. It's part of the multi-cultural sanitizing of history. Don't teach them the past abuse and they swallow the globalist agenda. The nation of Israel must not be seen as oppressed otherwise they would merit empathy. Instead they have to be painted into the White European and White American milieu so that they too may be targeted yet again!
I've dealt literally with hundreds of the recently educated and can understand why he fails to have a link to the illustrations you cite. Your past and my past have been carefully erased in the classroom. No more Western Civilization, no more logic, and only selected vignettes from post WWII America and precious little prior to WWII and all of it painted from a specific point of view.
We are going to rue the day we quit being interested in what our children were being taught. We've been too preoccupied with making a living and the distractions of life and have failed in our parental responsibilities to make sure that our children were taught the truth.
In the 80's I took on one of my daughter's history teachers who openly told his class that the Republicans had been responsible for starting every war that the U.S. had been in and that the Republicans were responsible for the dropping of the atomic bombs on Japan. After confronting the idiot and getting nowhere I took him before his principle who informed him that I was correct that Wilson, Roosevelt, Kennedy/Johnson had been responsible for getting the nation involved in their respective wars and that Truman had given the approval for the atomic bomb drops and Korea. A letter of reprimand was placed in his file, but as a tenured State employee his services were retained. I was noted as having been the only parent who had objected.
(This post was last modified: 02-13-2019 02:41 PM by JRsec.)
RE: Ilhan Omar Controversy Containment Thread For The Week 2/10-2/16
History is all political. My kids spend huge amounts of time on discrimination against blacks, Hispanics, and Chinese. Yet our worse behavior towards the politically unimportant Indians gets short shrift.
RE: Ilhan Omar Controversy Containment Thread For The Week 2/10-2/16
(02-13-2019 01:21 PM)miko33 Wrote:
(02-13-2019 12:18 PM)NIU007 Wrote:
(02-13-2019 11:56 AM)miko33 Wrote:
(02-12-2019 05:54 PM)NIU007 Wrote: I think it's being way overstated. There's the one statement about Israel "hypnotizing". Anything else?
When Omar said that people that criticized her would likely be labelled as anti-Muslim, she's saying the truth. She's not saying that's how it should be. I don't understand Latz's issue with that. And she's also right that there are a lot of groups giving money to politicians. In my opinion, it's excessive.
I guess you chose to ignore my posts? She was dog whistling to the anti Semites that the Jews were "at it again" trying to buy up power and influence with their "dirty Jew money". THIS is what the Nazi's promoted as an excuse to go after the Jews. Sadly, the Nazi party wasn't alone in their way of thinking, because the reality is that virtually ALL OF EUROPE (and much of the U.S.A.) had views sympathetic to the Nazi's. The only reason why the Nazi's are abhorred today is because they took their hate of the jews too far and put into action the Final Solution.
Frankly, I don't understand how you can't see this?
I saw your posts but you didn't list any other statements that she actually made other than that one in the article. What else did she say?
That wasn't the point of my posts. You didn't seem to understand how the statement she made in the OP link could be considered anti semitic. I gave you the context for why those types of gross generalizations about Jewish groups spending money are routinely made by anti semites.
You gave me context of what in the past has been anti-Semitism. But I still have just the one statement from Omar that might be construed that way. I thought I was going to get more examples of things she said that were anti-Semitic.
(This post was last modified: 02-13-2019 02:59 PM by NIU007.)
RE: Ilhan Omar Controversy Containment Thread For The Week 2/10-2/16
(02-13-2019 02:58 PM)NIU007 Wrote:
(02-13-2019 01:21 PM)miko33 Wrote:
(02-13-2019 12:18 PM)NIU007 Wrote:
(02-13-2019 11:56 AM)miko33 Wrote:
(02-12-2019 05:54 PM)NIU007 Wrote: I think it's being way overstated. There's the one statement about Israel "hypnotizing". Anything else?
When Omar said that people that criticized her would likely be labelled as anti-Muslim, she's saying the truth. She's not saying that's how it should be. I don't understand Latz's issue with that. And she's also right that there are a lot of groups giving money to politicians. In my opinion, it's excessive.
I guess you chose to ignore my posts? She was dog whistling to the anti Semites that the Jews were "at it again" trying to buy up power and influence with their "dirty Jew money". THIS is what the Nazi's promoted as an excuse to go after the Jews. Sadly, the Nazi party wasn't alone in their way of thinking, because the reality is that virtually ALL OF EUROPE (and much of the U.S.A.) had views sympathetic to the Nazi's. The only reason why the Nazi's are abhorred today is because they took their hate of the jews too far and put into action the Final Solution.
Frankly, I don't understand how you can't see this?
I saw your posts but you didn't list any other statements that she actually made other than that one in the article. What else did she say?
That wasn't the point of my posts. You didn't seem to understand how the statement she made in the OP link could be considered anti semitic. I gave you the context for why those types of gross generalizations about Jewish groups spending money are routinely made by anti semites.
You gave me context of what in the past has been anti-Semitism. But I still have just the one statement from Omar that might be construed that way. I thought I was going to get more examples of things she said that were anti-Semitic.
So you're giving her a free pass because you don't think she meant it that way? Interesting...
RE: Ilhan Omar Controversy Containment Thread For The Week 2/10-2/16
Must watch. She's even worse than I thought. She's smiling as she talks about genocide wtffffff
I've changed my mind on her resignation, done a 180, and now support her for leadership roles. I want her on Anderson Cooper and Maddow every night. I want Ilhan Omar to be the face of the democratic party.
(This post was last modified: 02-13-2019 07:34 PM by Kronke.)
RE: Ilhan Omar Controversy Containment Thread For The Week 2/10-2/16
(02-13-2019 07:33 PM)Kronke Wrote: Must watch. She's even worse than I thought. She's smiling as she talks about genocide wtffffff
I've changed my mind on her resignation, done a 180, and now support her for leadership roles. I want her on Anderson Cooper and Maddow every night. I want Ilhan Omar to be the face of the democratic party.
Thomas Jefferson takes a slow roll in his grave.....