One thing that amazes me is how UConn can get almost 10 pages on a message board. Whether we like them or not, few schools get that many detractors.

I consider UConn one of the three schools that were realignment casualties and should be in a P5 league. The other two are Cincinnati and BYU.

(02-02-2019 03:58 PM)UTEPDallas Wrote:  One thing that amazes me is how UConn can get almost 10 pages on a message board. Whether we like them or not, few schools get that many detractors.

I consider UConn one of the three schools that were realignment casualties and should be in a P5 league. The other two are Cincinnati and BYU.

Agreed. I've followed along and you can sum up most of the responses to:

1. Posters who think schools who aren't turning a profit need to drop to FCS/drop football altogether.
2. Posters responding to this group.
3. Posters who feel strongly that UConn needs to go to the Big East (usually Big East posters and some UConn fans).
4. Posters responding to this group.
5. A couple butt hurt UMass fans.
6. UConn fans responding to them.
7. Stever
8. Big East fans responding to him and telling him to stop trashing their conference.

That pretty much covers it.

UMAss. came up as a leading candidate for expansion to help UConn. out. I do not think UConn.'s going get a P5 invite unless the ACC gets raided by the Big 10 and SEC.
BYU does have issues that needs to be fixed. Big 12 fans would have boycotted them because how they treated rapped victims.
Cincinnati have no problems.

The schools ranked for P5 status by college football experts.

1.Boise State
2.BYU
3.Cinncinnati
4.UCF
5.USF
6.Memphis
7.UConn.
8.Northern Illinois
9.San Diego State
10.Colorado State

But we know how some school presidents feel. They want strong academics, but the fans want competition that brings excitement.

P5 school Presidents = Tulane/Johns Hopkins type schools
P5 fans want =Boise State/UCF/San Diego State/Memphis/Cincinnati/Toldeo/Northern Illinois/Appalachian State/North Dakota State

I wonder if UConn's money woes could help if the AAC brings in schools to fill in the gaps on the east side?

(02-04-2019 03:24 AM)DavidSt Wrote:  UMAss. came up as a leading candidate for expansion to help UConn. out. I do not think UConn.'s going get a P5 invite unless the ACC gets raided by the Big 10 and SEC.
BYU does have issues that needs to be fixed. Big 12 fans would have boycotted them because how they treated rapped victims.
Cincinnati have no problems.

The schools ranked for P5 status by college football experts.

1.Boise State
2.BYU
3.Cinncinnati
4.UCF
5.USF
6.Memphis
7.UConn.
8.Northern Illinois
9.San Diego State
10.Colorado State

But we know how some school presidents feel. They want strong academics, but the fans want competition that brings excitement.

P5 school Presidents = Tulane/Johns Hopkins type schools
P5 fans want =Boise State/UCF/San Diego State/Memphis/Cincinnati/Toldeo/Northern Illinois/Appalachian State/North Dakota State

I wonder if UConn's money woes could help if the AAC brings in schools to fill in the gaps on the east side?

Which league do you foresee NIU getting into? Being #8 is huge. Can’t wait to relay this to the NIU board.

(02-04-2019 03:24 AM)DavidSt Wrote:  UMAss. came up as a leading candidate for expansion to help UConn. out. I do not think UConn.'s going get a P5 invite unless the ACC gets raided by the Big 10 and SEC.
BYU does have issues that needs to be fixed. Big 12 fans would have boycotted them because how they treated rapped victims.
Cincinnati have no problems.

The schools ranked for P5 status by college football experts.

1.Boise State
2.BYU
3.Cinncinnati
4.UCF
5.USF
6.Memphis
7.UConn.
8.Northern Illinois
9.San Diego State
10.Colorado State

But we know how some school presidents feel. They want strong academics, but the fans want competition that brings excitement.

P5 school Presidents = Tulane/Johns Hopkins type schools
P5 fans want =Boise State/UCF/San Diego State/Memphis/Cincinnati/Toldeo/Northern Illinois/Appalachian State/North Dakota State

I wonder if UConn's money woes could help if the AAC brings in schools to fill in the gaps on the east side?

Do you have a link to this ranking? Perhaps one that identifies who the experts are who compiled it?

(02-04-2019 10:59 AM)ken d Wrote:  

(02-04-2019 03:24 AM)DavidSt Wrote:  UMAss. came up as a leading candidate for expansion to help UConn. out. I do not think UConn.'s going get a P5 invite unless the ACC gets raided by the Big 10 and SEC.
BYU does have issues that needs to be fixed. Big 12 fans would have boycotted them because how they treated rapped victims.
Cincinnati have no problems.

The schools ranked for P5 status by college football experts.

1.Boise State
2.BYU
3.Cinncinnati
4.UCF
5.USF
6.Memphis
7.UConn.
8.Northern Illinois
9.San Diego State
10.Colorado State

But we know how some school presidents feel. They want strong academics, but the fans want competition that brings excitement.

P5 school Presidents = Tulane/Johns Hopkins type schools
P5 fans want =Boise State/UCF/San Diego State/Memphis/Cincinnati/Toldeo/Northern Illinois/Appalachian State/North Dakota State

I wonder if UConn's money woes could help if the AAC brings in schools to fill in the gaps on the east side?

Do you have a link to this ranking? Perhaps one that identifies who the experts are who compiled it?

It is more by winning % since 2000. Boise State leads the rest of G5s with their stats since 2000. BYU had losing seasons which hurt their stats.

(02-04-2019 11:48 AM)DavidSt Wrote:  

(02-04-2019 10:59 AM)ken d Wrote:  

(02-04-2019 03:24 AM)DavidSt Wrote:  UMAss. came up as a leading candidate for expansion to help UConn. out. I do not think UConn.'s going get a P5 invite unless the ACC gets raided by the Big 10 and SEC.
BYU does have issues that needs to be fixed. Big 12 fans would have boycotted them because how they treated rapped victims.
Cincinnati have no problems.

The schools ranked for P5 status by college football experts.

1.Boise State
2.BYU
3.Cinncinnati
4.UCF
5.USF
6.Memphis
7.UConn.
8.Northern Illinois
9.San Diego State
10.Colorado State

But we know how some school presidents feel. They want strong academics, but the fans want competition that brings excitement.

P5 school Presidents = Tulane/Johns Hopkins type schools
P5 fans want =Boise State/UCF/San Diego State/Memphis/Cincinnati/Toldeo/Northern Illinois/Appalachian State/North Dakota State

I wonder if UConn's money woes could help if the AAC brings in schools to fill in the gaps on the east side?

Do you have a link to this ranking? Perhaps one that identifies who the experts are who compiled it?

It is more by winning % since 2000. Boise State leads the rest of G5s with their stats since 2000. BYU had losing seasons which hurt their stats.

So, the "G5 schools ranked for P5 status by college football experts" is actually just a fictitious list generated and created by DavidSt?

God, I love this board.

(02-04-2019 11:53 AM)GoldenWarrior11 Wrote:  

(02-04-2019 11:48 AM)DavidSt Wrote:  

(02-04-2019 10:59 AM)ken d Wrote:  

(02-04-2019 03:24 AM)DavidSt Wrote:  UMAss. came up as a leading candidate for expansion to help UConn. out. I do not think UConn.'s going get a P5 invite unless the ACC gets raided by the Big 10 and SEC.
BYU does have issues that needs to be fixed. Big 12 fans would have boycotted them because how they treated rapped victims.
Cincinnati have no problems.

The schools ranked for P5 status by college football experts.

1.Boise State
2.BYU
3.Cinncinnati
4.UCF
5.USF
6.Memphis
7.UConn.
8.Northern Illinois
9.San Diego State
10.Colorado State

But we know how some school presidents feel. They want strong academics, but the fans want competition that brings excitement.

P5 school Presidents = Tulane/Johns Hopkins type schools
P5 fans want =Boise State/UCF/San Diego State/Memphis/Cincinnati/Toldeo/Northern Illinois/Appalachian State/North Dakota State

I wonder if UConn's money woes could help if the AAC brings in schools to fill in the gaps on the east side?

Do you have a link to this ranking? Perhaps one that identifies who the experts are who compiled it?

It is more by winning % since 2000. Boise State leads the rest of G5s with their stats since 2000. BYU had losing seasons which hurt their stats.

So, the "G5 schools ranked for P5 status by college football experts" is actually just a fictitious list generated and created by DavidSt?

God, I love this board.

lol....pretty much.

UConn hired a new President today (from Virginia). Relevant quotes below.

(02-04-2019 11:53 AM)GoldenWarrior11 Wrote:  

(02-04-2019 11:48 AM)DavidSt Wrote:  

(02-04-2019 10:59 AM)ken d Wrote:  

(02-04-2019 03:24 AM)DavidSt Wrote:  UMAss. came up as a leading candidate for expansion to help UConn. out. I do not think UConn.'s going get a P5 invite unless the ACC gets raided by the Big 10 and SEC.
BYU does have issues that needs to be fixed. Big 12 fans would have boycotted them because how they treated rapped victims.
Cincinnati have no problems.

The schools ranked for P5 status by college football experts.

1.Boise State
2.BYU
3.Cinncinnati
4.UCF
5.USF
6.Memphis
7.UConn.
8.Northern Illinois
9.San Diego State
10.Colorado State

But we know how some school presidents feel. They want strong academics, but the fans want competition that brings excitement.

P5 school Presidents = Tulane/Johns Hopkins type schools
P5 fans want =Boise State/UCF/San Diego State/Memphis/Cincinnati/Toldeo/Northern Illinois/Appalachian State/North Dakota State

I wonder if UConn's money woes could help if the AAC brings in schools to fill in the gaps on the east side?

Do you have a link to this ranking? Perhaps one that identifies who the experts are who compiled it?

It is more by winning % since 2000. Boise State leads the rest of G5s with their stats since 2000. BYU had losing seasons which hurt their stats.

So, the "G5 schools ranked for P5 status by college football experts" is actually just a fictitious list generated and created by DavidSt?

God, I love this board.

And without actually fact checking, I doubt even this list is accurate. Elsewhere I had calculated the average Sagarin Power Rating for all G5s for the past 10 years. The leaders are, in order:

Boise State
BYU
Central Florida
Houston
Cincinnati
Navy
San Diego State
Utah State
Northern Illinois
Temple
Toledo
South Florida

Connceticut made the list, since I included every G5 school. The Huskies ranked #37 among G5 schools in avarage power rating. If I had only used the last five years, they would rank in the bottom ten.

(02-05-2019 01:58 PM)ken d Wrote:  

(02-04-2019 11:53 AM)GoldenWarrior11 Wrote:  

(02-04-2019 11:48 AM)DavidSt Wrote:  

(02-04-2019 10:59 AM)ken d Wrote:  

(02-04-2019 03:24 AM)DavidSt Wrote:  UMAss. came up as a leading candidate for expansion to help UConn. out. I do not think UConn.'s going get a P5 invite unless the ACC gets raided by the Big 10 and SEC.
BYU does have issues that needs to be fixed. Big 12 fans would have boycotted them because how they treated rapped victims.
Cincinnati have no problems.

The schools ranked for P5 status by college football experts.

1.Boise State
2.BYU
3.Cinncinnati
4.UCF
5.USF
6.Memphis
7.UConn.
8.Northern Illinois
9.San Diego State
10.Colorado State

But we know how some school presidents feel. They want strong academics, but the fans want competition that brings excitement.

P5 school Presidents = Tulane/Johns Hopkins type schools
P5 fans want =Boise State/UCF/San Diego State/Memphis/Cincinnati/Toldeo/Northern Illinois/Appalachian State/North Dakota State

I wonder if UConn's money woes could help if the AAC brings in schools to fill in the gaps on the east side?

Do you have a link to this ranking? Perhaps one that identifies who the experts are who compiled it?

It is more by winning % since 2000. Boise State leads the rest of G5s with their stats since 2000. BYU had losing seasons which hurt their stats.

So, the "G5 schools ranked for P5 status by college football experts" is actually just a fictitious list generated and created by DavidSt?

God, I love this board.

And without actually fact checking, I doubt even this list is accurate. Elsewhere I had calculated the average Sagarin Power Rating for all G5s for the past 10 years. The leaders are, in order:

Boise State
BYU
Central Florida
Houston
Cincinnati
Navy
San Diego State
Utah State
Northern Illinois
Temple
Toledo
South Florida

Connceticut made the list, since I included every G5 school. The Huskies ranked #37 among G5 schools in avarage power rating. If I had only used the last five years, they would rank in the bottom ten.

Well, to be fair, the G5 has only been around for 5 years. Previously to that some schools were BCS and some FCS. IMO, G5 comparisons of any kind should be within that time frame when looking for apples to apples data sets.

(02-04-2019 03:24 AM)DavidSt Wrote:  UMAss. came up as a leading candidate for expansion to help UConn. out. I do not think UConn.'s going get a P5 invite unless the ACC gets raided by the Big 10 and SEC.
BYU does have issues that needs to be fixed. Big 12 fans would have boycotted them because how they treated rapped victims.
Cincinnati have no problems.

The schools ranked for P5 status by college football experts.

1.Boise State
2.BYU
3.Cinncinnati
4.UCF
5.USF
6.Memphis
7.UConn.
8.Northern Illinois
9.San Diego State
10.Colorado State

But we know how some school presidents feel. They want strong academics, but the fans want competition that brings excitement.

P5 school Presidents = Tulane/Johns Hopkins type schools
P5 fans want =Boise State/UCF/San Diego State/Memphis/Cincinnati/Toldeo/Northern Illinois/Appalachian State/North Dakota State

I wonder if UConn's money woes could help if the AAC brings in schools to fill in the gaps on the east side?

Hahahahaha
You made this up! Hahahaha

(02-05-2019 07:11 PM)billybobby777 Wrote:  

(02-04-2019 03:24 AM)DavidSt Wrote:  UMAss. came up as a leading candidate for expansion to help UConn. out. I do not think UConn.'s going get a P5 invite unless the ACC gets raided by the Big 10 and SEC.
BYU does have issues that needs to be fixed. Big 12 fans would have boycotted them because how they treated rapped victims.
Cincinnati have no problems.

The schools ranked for P5 status by college football experts.

1.Boise State
2.BYU
3.Cinncinnati
4.UCF
5.USF
6.Memphis
7.UConn.
8.Northern Illinois
9.San Diego State
10.Colorado State

But we know how some school presidents feel. They want strong academics, but the fans want competition that brings excitement.

P5 school Presidents = Tulane/Johns Hopkins type schools
P5 fans want =Boise State/UCF/San Diego State/Memphis/Cincinnati/Toldeo/Northern Illinois/Appalachian State/North Dakota State

I wonder if UConn's money woes could help if the AAC brings in schools to fill in the gaps on the east side?

Hahahahaha
You made this up! Hahahaha

Nope, I sat next to David in Providence. He almost got meatball to add West Texas A&M because the basketball schools wanted them too.

http://sports.usatoday.com/ncaa/finances

In case it hasn't been linked in these 9 pages, the are the numbers for the public schools' revenues and expenses.

(02-04-2019 03:24 AM)DavidSt Wrote:  UMAss. came up as a leading candidate for expansion to help UConn. out. I do not think UConn.'s going get a P5 invite unless the ACC gets raided by the Big 10 and SEC.
BYU does have issues that needs to be fixed. Big 12 fans would have boycotted them because how they treated rapped victims.
Cincinnati have no problems.

The schools ranked for P5 status by college football experts.

1.Boise State
2.BYU
3.Cinncinnati
4.UCF
5.USF
6.Memphis
7.UConn.
8.Northern Illinois
9.San Diego State
10.Colorado State

But we know how some school presidents feel. They want strong academics, but the fans want competition that brings excitement.

P5 school Presidents = Tulane/Johns Hopkins type schools
P5 fans want =Boise State/UCF/San Diego State/Memphis/Cincinnati/Toldeo/Northern Illinois/Appalachian State/North Dakota State

I wonder if UConn's money woes could help if the AAC brings in schools to fill in the gaps on the east side?

What experts? This looks like a list you just made up. So, this is what I think....

Only a handful of G5 programs have little to no chance of getting called up to a power conference in the near future. Here is my list...

UCF
Memphis
Cincinnati
Houston
San Diego State

In my opinion these teams have the best combinations of success, funding, size, and markets. The 5 listed would be better programs than the worst bottom feeder in each of the P5 conferences in their region.

I believe all the other G5 programs have absolutely no chance at a P5 invitation as thing are right now.

(02-05-2019 08:32 PM)Side Show Joe Wrote:  

(02-04-2019 03:24 AM)DavidSt Wrote:  UMAss. came up as a leading candidate for expansion to help UConn. out. I do not think UConn.'s going get a P5 invite unless the ACC gets raided by the Big 10 and SEC.
BYU does have issues that needs to be fixed. Big 12 fans would have boycotted them because how they treated rapped victims.
Cincinnati have no problems.

The schools ranked for P5 status by college football experts.

1.Boise State
2.BYU
3.Cinncinnati
4.UCF
5.USF
6.Memphis
7.UConn.
8.Northern Illinois
9.San Diego State
10.Colorado State

But we know how some school presidents feel. They want strong academics, but the fans want competition that brings excitement.

P5 school Presidents = Tulane/Johns Hopkins type schools
P5 fans want =Boise State/UCF/San Diego State/Memphis/Cincinnati/Toldeo/Northern Illinois/Appalachian State/North Dakota State

I wonder if UConn's money woes could help if the AAC brings in schools to fill in the gaps on the east side?

What experts? This looks like a list you just made up. So, this is what I think....

Only a handful of G5 programs have little to no chance of getting called up to a power conference in the near future. Here is my list...

UCF
Memphis
Cincinnati
Houston
San Diego State

In my opinion these teams have the best combinations of success, funding, size, and markets. The 5 listed would be better programs than the worst bottom feeder in each of the P5 conferences in their region.

I believe all the other G5 programs have absolutely no chance at a P5 invitation as thing are right now.

Very few experts live in David's world but he loves the drama.

If the opinions of his experts existed, college football would have Alabama playing Troy as a conference member, K-State and North Dakota St would be conference members etc.

Fortunately, TV execs have more say than the made up dreams of a D2 college football fan.

(02-05-2019 07:51 PM)bullet Wrote:  http://sports.usatoday.com/ncaa/finances

In case it hasn't been linked in these 9 pages, the are the numbers for the public schools' revenues and expenses.

Some of those subsidies are huge.

UConn lost its second consecutive offensive coordinator today to another position, as John Dunn took the TE Coach position with the NY Jets. Reports are that it is for the same salary as he had at UConn (Rhett Lashlee left UConn for SMU last year). What makes the situation worse, as it was one day after national signing day, was that Edsall took a paycut and, out of pocket, paid for a pay increase for Dunn a few weeks ago, while also naming him as the "head coach in-waiting". The team promoted its OL Coach, who does not have any OC experience, as its new OC.

The problem is that UConn is unwilling, or unable, to spend more money because A) it $40 million in the red, B) ticket sales and fan support or way down and C) the football program is currently at its lowest stretch since being called up to FBS (recruiting ranking yesterday was #126 nationally, and #12 in the AAC). Edsall is barely making over $1 million per year.

Tough to have support when the program is struggling terribly, and it is tough to compete and improve when you don't have the support. Vicious cycle. Even with a new President, nothing changes to the struggling financial situation the athletic department finds itself in.

Didn't Edsall do something like donate his salary back to the school in order to add that money to his asst. coaches & recruiting budget? I thought I had heard something about that.

(02-08-2019 01:47 PM)HyperDuke Wrote:  Didn't Edsall do something like donate his salary back to the school in order to add that money to his asst. coaches & recruiting budget? I thought I had heard something about that.

He paid to give this Dunn fella a raise. 150 k a year.

Contributed 100k to facilities improvement I believe... as well.

Edsall is all in...