(01-22-2019 02:26 PM)pesik Wrote:  

(01-22-2019 02:18 PM)KnightLight Wrote:  

(01-22-2019 02:13 PM)pesik Wrote:  6) 4. Gregory USF- his teams are almost never bad, they also are rarely ever elite

Are you talking about a different Gregory?

The one I am thinking about went 27-61 in conf games during his recent 5 years at Ga Tech and is 5-19 in AAC Conf games over the past 1.5 years in Tampa.

What is your definition of "almost never bad"?

lol the acc is a battle every night, 30% in the acc is the definition of "almost never bad, they also are rarely ever elite"..he beat at least 1 top 25 every single year he was at gtech

and lol using current aac conference records is meaningless...memphis has played the softest schedule so they look great, usf has played arguably the hardest conference slate and could have honestly came out 5-1 with how close the games were

Did you take a look at ECU's opening conference slate before you put Dooley last? Take a look at these games:

SMU at SMU
Cincinnati at ECU
Memphis at Memphis
UCF at UCF
Temple at ECU
Houston at Houston

That is the most difficult schedule in the conference. That is literally the top 6 teams in the standings and 4 of those 6 games have been on the road.

2018-19 American Standings
TEAM CONF
UH 5-1
Cincinnati 5-1
UCF 4-1
Temple 4-1
Memphis 4-1
SMU 3-3
USF 2-4
Tulsa 2-4
UConn 2-4
WSU 1-4
ECU 1-4
Tulane 0-5

(01-22-2019 04:39 PM)justinhub2003 Wrote:  I'm not joking... are you as thick headed in real life as you are on the internet?

literally my point was Coach Sampson has been around for 30 years. Mick has been around 16 years.

So its only fair to compare Mick's first 16 years to Kelvin Sampson first 16 years.

How did you miss that point? How ? I don't get it.

What in the world does Kelvin Sampson's phone calls have to do with it. Did I mention them? I don't think I did.


Sampson has caught up to Cronin.... Because a Key cog in our rotation decided to leave early for the NBA DRAFT and was a 1sr Round pick. Had he stuck around as Cronin had intended, and the bearcats are breast feeding this league once again.


You're so dense that you can't even grasp what I'm saying.


Its like comparing the lifelong accomplishments of Michael Jordan to Luka Doncic.. Luka's story is still being written. Sampson's is almost done.



AND LOL how can show a graph where MICK Cronin has Plateaued? He had BACK TO BACK 30 win seasons bruh.. You can't really do much better than that. And he is well on his way to close to 30 wins this season and has zero plans of stopping.


LOL Houston is NOT GOING TO BE BETTER NEXT YEAR. They just won't. Mark it down. Remember it. they wont be 18-1 this time next year. Sorry bruh... I guess this is as good as it gets for Houston

1) i get your 16 year point...what im saying is that its bad comparision.. your point is it took Sampson 16 years to achieve greatness, Cronin has only coached 16 year.

- my response to that was that it lacked context..sampsons first few years were at a program that had 3 20 win seasons in 70 years before him..that isnt what mick cronin was handed...

2)you had back to back 30 win season because you transitioned into the aac that started slow.. my plateau comment was about the quality of team, as it refelcts in your tourney performance not the number of wins

3) again Sampson is 8 years younger than coach k, and coach k said 5 months isn't retiring anytime soon..
my guess is that sampson has 5 to 8 years left...closing his book before that seems silly as we have a 18-1 team now, we are projected just as good next year, and 2020 could be scary as hinton, dejon, white, alley, greshem will all be upperclassman, and if you look at 247 we are favored to land some dudes

Quote:Houston is NOT GOING TO BE BETTER NEXT YEAR.They just won't

like every other prediction, you have made?

sampson literally says his dream player is justin gorham who is sitting out this year, and could have been a starter

on the rothstein podcast 2 weeks ago Sampson said our most talented players arent our starters (every senior is a starter)..2 and 2 together

we have 2 free scholarships, we havent recruited a 2019 players in 4 months..sampson already publicly says he is confident in next years teams and we are saving those schollies in case something pops up (transfer, late decommit)

im not saying 18-1 (i dont know next years schedule) but the quality of the team will be as good, potentially better

sampson develop rob gray from a chubby juco spot shooter to an elite level guard..but you doubtssampson cant develop our projected all 4star starting lineup next season all with atleast a year under sampson into a good team.. LOL

(01-22-2019 04:52 PM)stxrunner Wrote:  I think I agree with you on the overall ranking of Cronin vs Sampson, but this is a grossly inaccurate portrayal of the UC basketball situation/program when Cronin took over. We had 2 recruits to play his first year, and one of them was Deonta Vaughn, who had I believe only one single scholarship offer in all of D1 (I believe it was from Oakland). Literally the entire roster was jucos (and not the good kind), and those two guys. We had Connor Barwin guarding Greg Oden for goodness sakes.

the 1st year was excusable, not saying that.....but it took 4 years for him to get back to decent

cincy wasnt a 4 year rebuild type of program...uc fiinish top 25 11 of the 14 seasons before mick arrived recruiting/culture shouldnt have been a build up
he was almost fired

This thread is going downhill fast.

(also of note: no WSU posters have caused it this time)

(01-22-2019 05:19 PM)PirateMarv Wrote:  

(01-22-2019 02:26 PM)pesik Wrote:  

(01-22-2019 02:18 PM)KnightLight Wrote:  

(01-22-2019 02:13 PM)pesik Wrote:  6) 4. Gregory USF- his teams are almost never bad, they also are rarely ever elite

Are you talking about a different Gregory?

The one I am thinking about went 27-61 in conf games during his recent 5 years at Ga Tech and is 5-19 in AAC Conf games over the past 1.5 years in Tampa.

What is your definition of "almost never bad"?

lol the acc is a battle every night, 30% in the acc is the definition of "almost never bad, they also are rarely ever elite"..he beat at least 1 top 25 every single year he was at gtech

and lol using current aac conference records is meaningless...memphis has played the softest schedule so they look great, usf has played arguably the hardest conference slate and could have honestly came out 5-1 with how close the games were

Did you take a look at ECU's opening conference slate before you put Dooley last? Take a look at these games:

SMU at SMU
Cincinnati at ECU
Memphis at Memphis
UCF at UCF
Temple at ECU
Houston at Houston

That is the most difficult schedule in the conference. That is literally the top 6 teams in the standings and 4 of those 6 games have been on the road.

2018-19 American Standings
TEAM CONF
UH 5-1
Cincinnati 5-1
UCF 4-1
Temple 4-1
Memphis 4-1
SMU 3-3
USF 2-4
Tulsa 2-4
UConn 2-4
WSU 1-4
ECU 1-4
Tulane 0-5

i like dooley but his resume is worse than everyone not named hardaway in the league..and hardway has 5stars coming into the league

im not saying dooley is bad or that he wont move up..but simple looking at whats on the table now he is last...if he turns ecu around he obviously shoots up

(01-22-2019 05:27 PM)pesik Wrote:  

(01-22-2019 04:52 PM)stxrunner Wrote:  I think I agree with you on the overall ranking of Cronin vs Sampson, but this is a grossly inaccurate portrayal of the UC basketball situation/program when Cronin took over. We had 2 recruits to play his first year, and one of them was Deonta Vaughn, who had I believe only one single scholarship offer in all of D1 (I believe it was from Oakland). Literally the entire roster was jucos (and not the good kind), and those two guys. We had Connor Barwin guarding Greg Oden for goodness sakes.

the 1st year was excusable, not saying that.....but it took 4 years for him to get back to decent

cincy wasnt a 4 year rebuild type of program...uc fiinish top 25 11 of the 14 seasons before mick arrived recruiting/culture shouldnt have been a build up
he was almost fired

I still strongly disagree. UC was a Top 100 team after two years. That's decent in my eyes. And it's pretty impressive considering we started with scrubs and no-one.

Cronin was on the hot seat because UC doesn't find missing the tournament acceptable. But he absolutely turned that program around by year 3. The fact that we were in a brutal Big East stopped more wins in Years 3/4, but those teams were solid. If Houston had comparable expectations to UC, Sampson would have been on the hot seat going into 2017 after 3 straight missed tourneys and 2 NIT first round losses.

Say what you will about Cronin's March failings, and I and everyone else can say plenty, but he deserves credit for rebuilding the absolute dumpster fire that was UC's basketball program after Huggins and Zimpher (and it was both of them) burned it to the ground.

My "rankings" - I'm not going to rank but rather group them

Elite:
Sampson
Marshall
Cronin

Good enough to keep a job but with a serious cap on ceiling:
Haith
Dawkins
Dunphy (in his current state)

Still needs proving but lots of potential:
Hurley
Gregory
Hardaway
Dooley

Bad and should be fired
Jank
Dunleavy

(01-22-2019 05:36 PM)pesik Wrote:  

(01-22-2019 05:19 PM)PirateMarv Wrote:  

(01-22-2019 02:26 PM)pesik Wrote:  

(01-22-2019 02:18 PM)KnightLight Wrote:  

(01-22-2019 02:13 PM)pesik Wrote:  6) 4. Gregory USF- his teams are almost never bad, they also are rarely ever elite

Are you talking about a different Gregory?

The one I am thinking about went 27-61 in conf games during his recent 5 years at Ga Tech and is 5-19 in AAC Conf games over the past 1.5 years in Tampa.

What is your definition of "almost never bad"?

lol the acc is a battle every night, 30% in the acc is the definition of "almost never bad, they also are rarely ever elite"..he beat at least 1 top 25 every single year he was at gtech

and lol using current aac conference records is meaningless...memphis has played the softest schedule so they look great, usf has played arguably the hardest conference slate and could have honestly came out 5-1 with how close the games were

Did you take a look at ECU's opening conference slate before you put Dooley last? Take a look at these games:

SMU at SMU
Cincinnati at ECU
Memphis at Memphis
UCF at UCF
Temple at ECU
Houston at Houston

That is the most difficult schedule in the conference. That is literally the top 6 teams in the standings and 4 of those 6 games have been on the road.

2018-19 American Standings
TEAM CONF
UH 5-1
Cincinnati 5-1
UCF 4-1
Temple 4-1
Memphis 4-1
SMU 3-3
USF 2-4
Tulsa 2-4
UConn 2-4
WSU 1-4
ECU 1-4
Tulane 0-5

i like dooley but his resume is worse than everyone not named hardaway in the league..and hardway has 5stars coming into the league

im not saying dooley is bad or that he wont move up..but simple looking at whats on the table now he is last...if he turns ecu around he obviously shoots up

You need to do some more research on Dooley before you keep writing stuff.
Dooley was the top assistant and top recruiter on a Kansas team that won the national championship in 2008. At FGCU Dooley went to 5 post season tournaments (2 NCAA, 2 NIT, 1 CIT) in the 5 seasons he was there.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Dooley_(basketball)

What difference does it make that Hardaway has 5 star players coming into the league? Pastner used to bring in a truck load of 4* and 5* players every year at Memphis, but they still fired him.

Btw, you only think highly of Gregory because USF looks better this year when he has his own players. Last year they looked horrible when he inherited the previous coach's kids. Dooley has ECU looking good this season with Lebo's players. Think about that for a minute. Dooley has been competitive with Lebo's kids. Dooley only has one player that he recruited on the current roster.

I do love that ECU fans are showing some love for basketball. The league needs the fans and the school to care about the sport.

I can only hope our sacrifice was worth it. Don't let me down Pirates!

(01-22-2019 05:37 PM)stxrunner Wrote:  

(01-22-2019 05:27 PM)pesik Wrote:  

(01-22-2019 04:52 PM)stxrunner Wrote:  I think I agree with you on the overall ranking of Cronin vs Sampson, but this is a grossly inaccurate portrayal of the UC basketball situation/program when Cronin took over. We had 2 recruits to play his first year, and one of them was Deonta Vaughn, who had I believe only one single scholarship offer in all of D1 (I believe it was from Oakland). Literally the entire roster was jucos (and not the good kind), and those two guys. We had Connor Barwin guarding Greg Oden for goodness sakes.

the 1st year was excusable, not saying that.....but it took 4 years for him to get back to decent

cincy wasnt a 4 year rebuild type of program...uc fiinish top 25 11 of the 14 seasons before mick arrived recruiting/culture shouldnt have been a build up
he was almost fired

I still strongly disagree. UC was a Top 100 team after two years. That's decent in my eyes. And it's pretty impressive considering we started with scrubs and no-one.

Cronin was on the hot seat because UC doesn't find missing the tournament acceptable. But he absolutely turned that program around by year 3. The fact that we were in a brutal Big East stopped more wins in Years 3/4, but those teams were solid. If Houston had comparable expectations to UC, Sampson would have been on the hot seat going into 2017 after 3 straight missed tourneys and 2 NIT first round losses.

Say what you will about Cronin's March failings, and I and everyone else can say plenty, but he deserves credit for rebuilding the absolute dumpster fire that was UC's basketball program after Huggins and Zimpher (and it was both of them) burned it to the ground.

the part i bolded showed you missed my point
cronin was given a reputation, money & facilities. Sampson was given nothing ..the expectations should be different

cincy was already elite in the eyes of the nation and with top-level fan support and facilities ..recruiting and building a culture of winning isnt that same as Houston

before Fertitta Houston hadnt upgraded any of its facilities since the swc crash..a coach before Sampson (tom penders) had an infamous article complaining about the rampant rat problem in our old arena and how the players werent allowed to shower there because the water there was contaminated (and that was the only place they could practice), in front of 200 fans per game ..with a horrible reputation in the local area...and only 1 undeserved auto bid in the 30 years prior for the ncaa

houston (the metro) is one of the top 3 recruiting hotbeds in America (#2 in respect to producing d1 players)..Sampson was only able to recruit 1 Houston player in his 1st 3 cycles, despite offering all of them (a legacy, in galen robinson)...everyone else has been out of state juco...
2020 is the 1st year we are expected to get elite houston kids...
winning at cincy and winning at houston pre-sampson are complete different things

our next coach wont be given 4 years now that all of that is estabilished

(01-22-2019 02:13 PM)pesik Wrote:  1) 2. Sampson UH- won EVERY where he has gone, at an elite level normally with less talent (1 lottery pick in his entire career)

2) 1. Marshall WSU- i have questions about his ability to win in bigger league to the level of succes he had at mvc

3) 3. Cronin UC- lack of tourney success but always gets them there

4) 10. Dunphy Temple- this is the worst 3 year run of his career..it says alot when that includes a 14-4 season

5) 6. Hurley UCONN- eliter recruiter, elite x and os, elite motivator..i think he will join the ranks of the "elite coaches" in few years

6) 11. Haith Tulsa - can get you into the ncaa once every 4 years, with some occasional nits

7) 4. Gregory USF- his teams are almost never bad, they also are rarely ever elite

8) 5. Dawkins UCF - remove the recency bias (this specific year, with tons of seniors, unique 7'6 player) he has the inability to make elite teams, even when expected.. lots of nit experience

9) 9. Jank SMU- larry browns players but 30-5 regardless is not easy to do..he has no ability to recruit what so ever, but is a quality x and os guy

10) 12. Dunleavy Sr. Tulane- was the nba coach of the year at 1 point, tulane isnt an easy place to win or recruit, its only year 3...im on the fire dunleavy train, but most coach would be in the same situation had they gone to tulane

11) 7. Hardaway Memphis- honestly hasnt shown me anything (..yet)..ironic that its tubby's juco that he developed, that Memphis fans complained about that, that are carrying Memphis .. elite recruiting is still a coaching ability

12) 8. Dooley ECU - i dont think he is bad, but someone has to be last

LOL Joe Dooley last. He’s only been to the postseason 17 seasons in a row.

(01-22-2019 05:57 PM)stxrunner Wrote:  I do love that ECU fans are showing some love for basketball. The league needs the fans and the school to care about the sport.

I can only hope our sacrifice was worth it. Don't let me down Pirates!

ECU has great basketball fans, but the problem has been that the university never seemed to care about basketball the same way that they cared about football and even baseball. That was a perfect retirement plan for a lazy ass basketball coach like Lebo.

1. Lynn

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Everybody else.

(01-22-2019 05:52 PM)PirateMarv Wrote:  

(01-22-2019 05:36 PM)pesik Wrote:  

(01-22-2019 05:19 PM)PirateMarv Wrote:  

(01-22-2019 02:26 PM)pesik Wrote:  

(01-22-2019 02:18 PM)KnightLight Wrote:  Are you talking about a different Gregory?

The one I am thinking about went 27-61 in conf games during his recent 5 years at Ga Tech and is 5-19 in AAC Conf games over the past 1.5 years in Tampa.

What is your definition of "almost never bad"?

lol the acc is a battle every night, 30% in the acc is the definition of "almost never bad, they also are rarely ever elite"..he beat at least 1 top 25 every single year he was at gtech

and lol using current aac conference records is meaningless...memphis has played the softest schedule so they look great, usf has played arguably the hardest conference slate and could have honestly came out 5-1 with how close the games were

Did you take a look at ECU's opening conference slate before you put Dooley last? Take a look at these games:

SMU at SMU
Cincinnati at ECU
Memphis at Memphis
UCF at UCF
Temple at ECU
Houston at Houston

That is the most difficult schedule in the conference. That is literally the top 6 teams in the standings and 4 of those 6 games have been on the road.

2018-19 American Standings
TEAM CONF
UH 5-1
Cincinnati 5-1
UCF 4-1
Temple 4-1
Memphis 4-1
SMU 3-3
USF 2-4
Tulsa 2-4
UConn 2-4
WSU 1-4
ECU 1-4
Tulane 0-5

i like dooley but his resume is worse than everyone not named hardaway in the league..and hardway has 5stars coming into the league

im not saying dooley is bad or that he wont move up..but simple looking at whats on the table now he is last...if he turns ecu around he obviously shoots up

You need to do some more research on Dooley before you keep writing stuff.
Dooley was the top assistant and top recruiter on a Kansas team that won the national championship in 2008. At FGCU Dooley went to 5 post season tournaments (2 NCAA, 2 NIT, 1 CIT) in the 5 seasons he was there.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Dooley_(basketball)

What difference does it make that Hardaway has 5 star players coming into the league? Pastner used to bring in a truck load of 4* and 5* players every year at Memphis, but they still fired him.

Btw, you only think highly of Gregory because USF looks better this year when he has his own players. Last year they looked horrible when he inherited the previous coach's kids. Dooley has ECU looking good this season with Lebo's players. Think about that for a minute. Dooley has been competitive with Lebo's kids. Dooley only has one player that he recruited on the current roster.

why dont you go do some research, why do people criticize rankings if the only thing you know about is your own team....you cant compare when you only know 1 ..this isnt a "are they good or bad list"...10 doesn't mean they are bad..

"(2 NCAA, 2 NIT, 1 CIT)"

that is worse than everyone not named Hardaway in respect to resume

also 2 auto bids doesnt trump the potential of playing with elite recruits, including the #1 player in the nation..bringing in talent is a key aspect to coaching
also penny is doing better this year than ecu both in year 1

and again when dooley dominates with his own kids we'll all move him up..

(01-22-2019 06:27 PM)HuskyU Wrote:  1. Lynn

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Everybody else.

Just change your name to ShockerU already.

(01-22-2019 04:56 PM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  

(01-22-2019 01:56 PM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  

(01-22-2019 01:30 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  Here is how I see it:

1. Marshall WSU
2. Sampson UH
3. Cronin UC
4. Gregory USF
5. Dawkins UCF
6. Hurley UCONN
7. Hardaway Memphis
8. Dooley ECU
9. Jank SMU
10. Dunphy Temple
11. Haith Tulsa
12. Dunleavy Sr. Tulane

Top 3 are solidly in place and time proven.

I think Gregory will only get better.
Verdict still out on Hurley and Hardaway. Not sold on either of them long term.
Dooley will improve and be solid.

Dunphy is gone so no point in commenting beyond that.

I think Haith deserves more time.

Jank and Dunleavy need to go IMO.


Thoughts? Discuss...

Subject to future game results, here is my list
1. Sampson - Houston (5-1)
1. Cronin - Cincy (5-1)
3. Dawkins - UCF (4-1)
3. Dunphy - Temple (4-1)
3. Hardaway - Memphis (4-1)
6. Jank - SMU (3-3)
7. Gregory - USF (2-4)
7. Haith Tulsa (2-4)
7. Hurley - UConn (2-4)
10. Marshall - WSU (1-4)
10. Dooley - ECU (1-4)
12. Dunleavy -
Tulane (0-5)

Winning is the object of the game. The thread title states "AAC Men's Hoops Coaches Ranking" and I focused on this season to date.

Ranking of lifetime achievement by coach is a different matter.

Exactly. And I know this won't be popular with the blinded by the light group, but If this IS a lifetime achievement award, wouldn't Dunleavy rank a wee bit higher than what Pesik the Pontiff has him at?

Here's the problem. Pesik is playing both sides of the fence. Lifetime where it fits his argument, and in the moment where it fits his argument.

He conveniently ranks Sampson number one because of his lifetime achievements even though his lifetime achievements include being banned from the game for NCAA violations. The only way he could get back in the game is to be the coach of a team nobody gives a crap about. Is he a good coach? Yes. But he's also a convicted cheater.

He puts Dunleavy last because in the moment it appears the game may have passed him by. As for career achievements, he was once 'Coach of the Year' in the NBA. Kind of hard to put a guy like that last with some of the chumps that are ahead of him.

Which brings me full circle back to his 11 ranking of Penny and his stupid comment regarding "there's more to coaching than recruiting". Do tell because if you're talking about these coaches in every post comparing their lifetime achivements then this is a STUPID poll for Penny. He's halfway through his first season and he's currently third in the conference 1/2 game behind the almighty tie throwing narcissist and convicted cheater Kelvin Sampson. The only real achievement Penny can have at this time is his recruiting. Which of course is #1 in the conference.

Therefore using Pesik Logic, I conclude that Penny Hardaway is the number one coach in the American Athletic Conference at the midpoint of this season. why? Because in just his first half year as a Division 1 head coach, he has guided the Memphis Tigers one half game out of first place (he's played one less game), and he is bringing in a class that is better than any class any of the other coaches have ever brought in their entire careers.

(01-22-2019 06:29 PM)pesik Wrote:  

(01-22-2019 05:52 PM)PirateMarv Wrote:  

(01-22-2019 05:36 PM)pesik Wrote:  

(01-22-2019 05:19 PM)PirateMarv Wrote:  

(01-22-2019 02:26 PM)pesik Wrote:  lol the acc is a battle every night, 30% in the acc is the definition of "almost never bad, they also are rarely ever elite"..he beat at least 1 top 25 every single year he was at gtech

and lol using current aac conference records is meaningless...memphis has played the softest schedule so they look great, usf has played arguably the hardest conference slate and could have honestly came out 5-1 with how close the games were

Did you take a look at ECU's opening conference slate before you put Dooley last? Take a look at these games:

SMU at SMU
Cincinnati at ECU
Memphis at Memphis
UCF at UCF
Temple at ECU
Houston at Houston

That is the most difficult schedule in the conference. That is literally the top 6 teams in the standings and 4 of those 6 games have been on the road.

2018-19 American Standings
TEAM CONF
UH 5-1
Cincinnati 5-1
UCF 4-1
Temple 4-1
Memphis 4-1
SMU 3-3
USF 2-4
Tulsa 2-4
UConn 2-4
WSU 1-4
ECU 1-4
Tulane 0-5

i like dooley but his resume is worse than everyone not named hardaway in the league..and hardway has 5stars coming into the league

im not saying dooley is bad or that he wont move up..but simple looking at whats on the table now he is last...if he turns ecu around he obviously shoots up

You need to do some more research on Dooley before you keep writing stuff.
Dooley was the top assistant and top recruiter on a Kansas team that won the national championship in 2008. At FGCU Dooley went to 5 post season tournaments (2 NCAA, 2 NIT, 1 CIT) in the 5 seasons he was there.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Dooley_(basketball)

What difference does it make that Hardaway has 5 star players coming into the league? Pastner used to bring in a truck load of 4* and 5* players every year at Memphis, but they still fired him.

Btw, you only think highly of Gregory because USF looks better this year when he has his own players. Last year they looked horrible when he inherited the previous coach's kids. Dooley has ECU looking good this season with Lebo's players. Think about that for a minute. Dooley has been competitive with Lebo's kids. Dooley only has one player that he recruited on the current roster.

why dont you go do some research, why do people criticize about rankings if the only thing you know about is your won team....you cant compare when you only know 1 ..this isnt a "are they good or bad list"...10 doesn't mean they are bad..

"(2 NCAA, 2 NIT, 1 CIT)"

that is worse than everyone not named Hardaway in respect to resume

also 2 auto bids doesnt trump the potential of playing with elite recruits, including the #1 player in the nation..bringing in talent is a key aspect to coaching
also penny is doing better this year than ecu both in year 1

and again when dooley dominates with his own kids we'll all move him up..

At FGCU...in 5 seasons...also won a national championship...your ranking is stupid.

Wow Penny is doing better at Memphis than ECU in the first season, what a savant. Lmao you’re a joke.

A high school coach is better than a national champion who has taken a ho hum mid major program to the postseason 100% of the time. Right.

Knocking him for not bringing in “elite” talent to FGCU, Jesus Christ dude get a brain.

Memphis Yankee why does every post you make contain insults or name calling....

(01-22-2019 06:42 PM)DowdyPirate Wrote:  At FGCU...in 5 seasons...also won a national championship...your ranking is stupid.

Wow Penny is doing better at Memphis than ECU in the first season, what a savant. Lmao you’re a joke.

A high school coach is better than a national champion who has taken a ho hum mid major program to the postseason 100% of the time. Right.

Knocking him for not bringing in “elite” talent to FGCU, Jesus Christ dude get a brain.

so you are using his time as an assistant? in a head coach rankings?

i frankly dont care, you are the one person in this forum i know to avoid because they overreact about little things
so you are free to have your own opinion

(01-22-2019 06:43 PM)pesik Wrote:  Memphis Yankee why does every post you make contain insults or name calling....

Went to a marriage counselor once. He told my wife not to use the words always, never and every, unless you want to start an argument.

Every post doesn't and you know it. Not hardly. Read some of your posts once in a while. You're the dig queen. Insult after insult.