(11-30-2018 08:59 PM)utpotts Wrote:  Hunt has been released by the Chiefs per Bleacher Report

Wow ?

Holy Toledo. This is insane.

OMG. This escalated real quickly. :(

(11-30-2018 09:01 PM)RangerRocket Wrote:  

(11-30-2018 08:59 PM)utpotts Wrote:  Hunt has been released by the Chiefs per Bleacher Report

Wow ?

Only option. Chiefs have to save face after that

Kareem’s NFL career is likely over.

(11-30-2018 09:13 PM)rockytop Wrote:  Kareem’s NFL career is likely over.

Per the Chiefs, he lied to nfl investigators about what happened. Someone may pick him up, but not for a while after that

Wow.

Chiefs are saying the reason they released him because the video proves he lied to the team.

Meanwhile Joe Mixon is still playing for Cinci and Rothlesburger will probably make the hall of fame.

As they say, Nothing good happens after midnight, much less 3:00 am. Kareem has paid a heavy price for being drunk, stupid, and immature.

Oh and I forgot about Tyreek Hill who is still on the Chiefs roster who plead guilty to domestic violence. I guess it's ok, as long as you admit it.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not defending Hunt. He did this to himself and has to live with the consequences. But the hypocrisy from the NFL teams is ridiculous.

Wow, he's done. Like Ray Rice, he probably won't work again. It would be a PR nightmare for anyone to pick him up. One dumb night of partying cost him millions.

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WOW, that is nuts. Hunt is clearly out of control and was violent towards her. However, this is not domestic violence. There is no intimate relationship. Kareem is there with his girlfriend trying to get this other woman to leave his room. You can't compare this to Ray Rice nearly killing his fiance or the many players still in the league that have put women in the hospital. And we will never likely know the whole truth. When she was told to leave did she get racist? When she didn't leave did Kareem feel entitled to get physical? If someone won't leave your hotel room and is disrespecting you I feel you have the right to physically push them out, man or woman. But, If a woman is saying no to a man's advances (not Kareem's) and is attacked for it, that is terrible, common, but terrible. Likely, the truth is somewhere in the middle. Two people young, drunk and aggressive unable to responsibly handle conflict. I don't see assault, honestly, but if it was my sister and her story was even half truthful I'd still want to give Kareem a good mouth shot.

I think he will have the chance to play again but I wonder if his psyche or reputation will recover.

(11-30-2018 09:13 PM)rockytop Wrote:  Kareem’s NFL career is likely over.

Doubtful..... another team will pick him up with that third round draft deal he is on.

What a shame!-----all that talent, all that hard work, all those lucky breaks, all that effort and all that potential pissed away in an instant. Biggest waste of NFL talent via poor judgement, bad habits, questionable "friends" or whatever since Michael Vick ---in fact probably more so as much of Vick's college success was his running ability which is a lot less important in the NFL. What a waste. Of course just as Toledo basked in the reflected glory of his astounding success so too will Toledo suffer in his shame---Kareem let a lot of people down including first and foremost himself. Unfortunately a lot of people are not equipped to readily adapt to the living under a microscope ----which is a price that comes with a sudden rise in fame and fortune----it can be a tough adjustment at any age, but particularly in one's early twenties. In my book, unrealized potential (and the regrets that usually accompany it) is one of the saddest tragedies of the human experience. What a shame!

Totally out of control on the video. It doesn't even matter what happened prior to that. Stick a fork in him, he's done. I hope he saved some money, but ... he probably didn't do that either. Who kicks a woman on the ground??? Come on, man.

(11-30-2018 10:12 PM)utpotts Wrote:  

(11-30-2018 09:13 PM)rockytop Wrote:  Kareem’s NFL career is likely over.

Doubtful..... another team will pick him up with that third round draft deal he is on.

Doubtful ... who wants that PR nightmare? Maybe some of his co-workers kneeling for the national anthem will help him out during hard times ... oh wait, I doubt that too.

(11-30-2018 10:03 PM)pono Wrote:  WOW, that is nuts. Hunt is clearly out of control and was violent towards her. However, this is not domestic violence. There is no intimate relationship. Kareem is there with his girlfriend trying to get this other woman to leave his room. You can't compare this to Ray Rice nearly killing his fiance or the many players still in the league that have put women in the hospital. And we will never likely know the whole truth. When she was told to leave did she get racist? When she didn't leave did Kareem feel entitled to get physical? If someone won't leave your hotel room and is disrespecting you I feel you have the right to physically push them out, man or woman. But, If a woman is saying no to a man's advances (not Kareem's) and is attacked for it, that is terrible, common, but terrible. Likely, the truth is somewhere in the middle. Two people young, drunk and aggressive unable to responsibly handle conflict. I don't see assault, honestly, but if it was my sister and her story was even half truthful I'd still want to give Kareem a good mouth shot.

I think he will have the chance to play again but I wonder if his psyche or reputation will recover.

One... this was in a hallway. Two this was a woman... you don’t hit a woman. I don’t care how crazy nuts she is... Hunt is a freaking NFL trained athlete. Be a freaking professional and let your entourage (who were evidently already engaged) deal with it. He screwed up... and he screwed up to the point where he jeopardized his career.

You don’t see assault in that video!? Seriously!

(11-30-2018 10:03 PM)pono Wrote:  WOW, that is nuts. Hunt is clearly out of control and was violent towards her. However, this is not domestic violence. There is no intimate relationship. Kareem is there with his girlfriend trying to get this other woman to leave his room. You can't compare this to Ray Rice nearly killing his fiance or the many players still in the league that have put women in the hospital. And we will never likely know the whole truth. When she was told to leave did she get racist? When she didn't leave did Kareem feel entitled to get physical? If someone won't leave your hotel room and is disrespecting you I feel you have the right to physically push them out, man or woman. But, If a woman is saying no to a man's advances (not Kareem's) and is attacked for it, that is terrible, common, but terrible. Likely, the truth is somewhere in the middle. Two people young, drunk and aggressive unable to responsibly handle conflict. I don't see assault, honestly, but if it was my sister and her story was even half truthful I'd still want to give Kareem a good mouth shot.

I think he will have the chance to play again but I wonder if his psyche or reputation will recover.

Shoving a woman to the ground (via bull rush and knocking her down) and then kicking her while down isn't assault?

(11-30-2018 10:21 PM)T-Town Wrote:  What a shame!-----all that talent, all that hard work, all those lucky breaks, all that effort and all that potential pissed away in an instant. Biggest waste of NFL talent via poor judgement, bad habits, questionable "friends" or whatever since Michael Vick ---in fact probably more so as much of Vick's college success was his running ability which is a lot less important in the NFL. What a waste. Of course just as Toledo basked in the reflected glory of his astounding success so too will Toledo suffer in his shame---Kareem let a lot of people down including first and foremost himself. Unfortunately a lot of people are not equipped to readily adapt to the living under a microscope ----which is a price that comes with a sudden rise in fame and fortune----it can be a tough adjustment at any age, but particularly in one's early twenties. In my book, unrealized potential (and the regrets that usually accompany it) is one of the saddest tragedies of the human experience. What a shame!

Well said

(11-30-2018 11:09 PM)MiamiRocket Wrote:  

(11-30-2018 10:12 PM)utpotts Wrote:  

(11-30-2018 09:13 PM)rockytop Wrote:  Kareem’s NFL career is likely over.

Doubtful..... another team will pick him up with that third round draft deal he is on.

Doubtful ... who wants that PR nightmare? Maybe some of his co-workers kneeling for the national anthem will help him out during hard times ... oh wait, I doubt that too.

Reuben Foster beat the heck out of his ex-girlfriend and was arrested, yet the Redskins signed him off of waivers. I guarantee you an NFL team in need of a running back, under a 3rd Round Draft contract, with back to back 1000 yard all purpose yards seasons will come calling. IE San Diego, Washington, Seattle, Chicago, Green Bay, that’s just off the top of my head.

(11-30-2018 11:14 PM)MiamiRocket Wrote:  

(11-30-2018 10:03 PM)pono Wrote:  WOW, that is nuts. Hunt is clearly out of control and was violent towards her. However, this is not domestic violence. There is no intimate relationship. Kareem is there with his girlfriend trying to get this other woman to leave his room. You can't compare this to Ray Rice nearly killing his fiance or the many players still in the league that have put women in the hospital. And we will never likely know the whole truth. When she was told to leave did she get racist? When she didn't leave did Kareem feel entitled to get physical? If someone won't leave your hotel room and is disrespecting you I feel you have the right to physically push them out, man or woman. But, If a woman is saying no to a man's advances (not Kareem's) and is attacked for it, that is terrible, common, but terrible. Likely, the truth is somewhere in the middle. Two people young, drunk and aggressive unable to responsibly handle conflict. I don't see assault, honestly, but if it was my sister and her story was even half truthful I'd still want to give Kareem a good mouth shot.

I think he will have the chance to play again but I wonder if his psyche or reputation will recover.

Shoving a woman to the ground (via bull rush and knocking her down) and then kicking her while down isn't assault?

not that weak ass kick.

f the pretense i will be fully honest here. what he did was wrong. and the image of a strong man being violent toward a woman for most of us is revolting. read, the first thing i wrote. i am not saying he didn't cross a line that his career is not in jeopardy or he should not apologize for his actions. but people see what they want to see. and videos are edited for impact. watch the full video assuming you are the law and she is the accused assailant as was alleged in a police report.

watch the person who was not staying at the hotel. who was at the club underage, followed a group of people who didn't really know her back to their place and refused to leave at 3 in morning. watch the person accused in a police report with multiple witnesses of assaulting a woman in the room (one of whom was kareem's girlfriend) who was belligerent and was saying "f%ck you n&^G*" as she finally left. watch the video assuming she is the assailant as she comes across the hallway at the hotel guest standing just outside his room talking to her and get up in his face. he pushes her away. she comes back at him. a small man grabs the guest and tries to hold him but the guest pushes him away. then, the assailant comes back at the guest and throws a right and punches him in the face squarely, then steps back. two people grab the guest who has now fully lost his temper but has not thrown any punches and get him out of the hall and halfway through the doorway. while 2 other very calm people-a woman and man- non violently try to get the middle. the assailant who has punched the hotel guest comes back across the hallway toward the room pushes a woman out of her way and approaches the calm man in front of the door and pushes him without too much force. when he holds his ground but does not put his hands on her she pushes him violently (for her size) at this point the guest pushes one of the men holding him back in the doorway. that guy loses his balance and crashes into the assailant who falls backward and hits her head on the opposite wall and looks stunned. the guest is still agitated but not as much out of control - some man grabs the phone of a woman taping - most of the people leave the hallway and the guest sees the assailant finally subdued kneeling on the ground and half kicks her demeaningly as he turns back toward his room.

i am not excusing anything kareem did. i don't know who is telling the truth of what happened in the room. msot of the witnessed filmed talking to the police are fairly sober and clear in their thoughts. i don't know who is twisting it to fit their best version. there is probably a bit of both. i am not advocating for violence on women. i've known women hurt by men. i am also saying that women can be aggressive, violent and out of line and contribute substantially to confrontations that put men in defensive positions that some respond poorly to. i've seen young drunk men and women get rough with the unruly guest and i've seen those people kicked in the butt a little on their way out the door. there is a reason the police had a slew of video footage and the woman claiming to be a victim filed an immediate detailed report, but the police found no reason reason to charge kareem with anything. it's not because he was kareem hunt. it was because she was largely the aggressor in the situation. none of that excuses the fact he is a man of great strength who has a certain moral responsibility to not wield his physical power in the direction of a woman. even when she calls him a n$g^* and punches him in the face. kareem failed that manhood test. but don't call it domestic violence and stop editing the footage and narrative to paint him as a perpetrator of a violence assault. he gave her a push.