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RE: Thanks for the free tickets Ga State!
(09-21-2018 10:21 AM)JCGSU Wrote:  
(09-20-2018 01:04 PM)GSUALUM17 Wrote:  
(09-20-2018 12:44 PM)JCGSU Wrote:  
(09-20-2018 11:55 AM)GSUALUM17 Wrote:  
(09-20-2018 11:46 AM)AppManDG Wrote:  More marketing geniusry on the part of Charlie Cobb. You guys still wonder why we were so happy to get rid of him?

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Oh stop it. Cobb is doing a good job. We are raising more money than ever.

Will this show up next year? As of now 74%+ of your budget is allocated. IIRC the state says you have to get down to 65%. From what was reported GaSt only got $879K in donations? Which was down from the previous year and way down from the highest year of $1.5M in 2015.

I know from ArkSt these numbers can be tricky though.

You guys make such a big deal about 65%. No one in the administration is concerned. Cobb said confidently that it isnt a problem. We will be ready for the rule without sacrificing the budget. I haven't seen any red flags, but let me know if you know something that I dont.

Every school does accounting little differently. Some schools allow their athletics to operate as an independent entity. We do not. All received funds are managed by the university's general fund. Then the school pays for whatever the athletics needs for that year. Only the private donations that are specifically allocated to the athletics are counted as such.

Last time I looked at Georgia State's finances, our budget is pretty balanced at $1.2 bil.

The schools budget has nothing to do with the athletic budget especially now and how schools handle funds is regulated at the state level dictated by the BOR last I checked. I seriously doubt someone making a specific donation to the athletics department or football team has their donation thrown into a big pot that might be used for the biology department. Also given the fact that most athletic departments at best lose money based on revenue I am not buying it. I dont make a big deal about the 65% other than you are currently not close. Your reported SPECIFIC athletic donations are not near what you said and is trending down since 2015. I allowed for weird accounting to account for some of that but the lion share of your budget comes from student fees not donations or ticket sale and it is not even close.
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LOUD NOISES!!!!!!
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(09-21-2018 10:21 AM)CoastalAlum2011 Wrote:  I hate Louisiana baseball. You know those cowards ducked out of their last game in conway against us 2 years ago?

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There's a disconnect here between smack talk and personal offense. By that same logic, you could say that Southern fans really believe that App State fans fornicate with goats and don't have teeth, or that State fans really believe Southern fans fornicate with their sisters. I don't believe anyone actually believes those things, it's just in the nature of taking jabs at another school. No one really believes that Ga State students are crackheads, but it's a stereotype of Atlanta. Just like y'all use stereotypes of hicks when you "attack" our alma mater and Statesboro. This is, and always has been, a two-way street with both sides taking low blows and "attacking" the other's alma mater.

I hope I speak for all Southern fans when I say that none of us wish anything bad to happen to Ga State or their athletics just because of some internet smack talk like I hope State fans wouldn't wish anything bad to happen to Ga Southern or our athletics.
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(09-21-2018 07:26 AM)panama Wrote:  
(09-20-2018 11:12 PM)eaglewraith Wrote:  
(09-20-2018 10:45 PM)07pantheralum Wrote:  
(09-20-2018 10:26 PM)Panthers347 Wrote:  
(09-20-2018 09:34 PM)trapdrawApp Wrote:  But incest jokes are aren’t any of those?

Not really advocating incest jokes here, but definitely feel like there is a difference. I looked over the original response, which opened the door for TBD. So I guess that means its cool, right?

Let's be clear...not the same thing as calling Eagle Creek a drainage ditch or making goat references.

Since our football program was founded, the ugliness has flowed one way far more than the other when it comes to GS-GSU smack. Karma has been a B so far for the offending side, though. In all sports and aspects. It's been very satisfying to watch that play out.

Ehhhh your folks have given as good as they got.

The best anyone should argue for is that it was mutual. You can't claim victim on this one.

I've seen enough from panama, saint, and hammer to last a lifetime, not to mention the constant drivel from Ben who never ventures into a venue he doesn't have control over to engage with other fanbases.
I love how posts are attributed to me that I never wrote. JCGSU posted a thread from 2010 (sad in itself) from GSUFANS as an example and was 30 pages of people from GS arguing with Saint. I may have made f@ of the drainage ditch and you may hate my opinion but incest jokes and racial jokes aren't my thing.

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I love calling you out on lies your posts are here to see. I have never attributed anything specifically to you you did not actually say. Your delusions of grandeur have been lessened with the sad reality of what GaSt football has been but you still probably think you deserve to be in the ACC one day, being in ATL gives you some big advantage, the citizens of ATL will ever consider you "their" team and marketttzzzzz. Just like having Bill Curry was a big deal, playing in the Dome was a big deal, having a magazine cover meant something and being invited to a luncheon was significant just a long line of overblown crap that has not translated to anything on the field. Who your hire to run your team and who they get to play for them are the only things that matter.

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(09-21-2018 10:08 AM)panama Wrote:  
(09-21-2018 08:41 AM)eaglewraith Wrote:  
(09-21-2018 07:26 AM)panama Wrote:  
(09-20-2018 11:12 PM)eaglewraith Wrote:  
(09-20-2018 10:45 PM)07pantheralum Wrote:  Since our football program was founded, the ugliness has flowed one way far more than the other when it comes to GS-GSU smack. Karma has been a B so far for the offending side, though. In all sports and aspects. It's been very satisfying to watch that play out.

Ehhhh your folks have given as good as they got.

The best anyone should argue for is that it was mutual. You can't claim victim on this one.

I've seen enough from panama, saint, and hammer to last a lifetime, not to mention the constant drivel from Ben who never ventures into a venue he doesn't have control over to engage with other fanbases.
I love how posts are attributed to me that I never wrote. JCGSU posted a thread from 2010 (sad in itself) from GSUFANS as an example and was 30 pages of people from GS arguing with Saint. I may have made f@ of the drainage ditch and you may hate my opinion but incest jokes and racial jokes aren't my thing.

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The point I was making is there are no victims in this fued. Everyone has participated at some point so either side waving that flag now carries no weight. Whoever tries will get ridiculed for it as well.

Have people taken the jokes too far? Yes. I'm not trying to defend them at all. I'm talking about the origins. And yes you were very active in it at the beginning. Don't try to rewrite history. Hell you can barely carry on a decent conversation with any of our fans when we bring up legitimate points without resulting to memes, simple retorts like LOL, or other similar responses.

I really wish we could get to the point where we could all talk to each other like we do with App fans (actually have good discourse about sports and light hearted smack back and forth) but I don't see that happening any time soon unfortunately.
yep...innocuous memes/gifs and racial comments are about the same.

You could have ended with "Have people taken the jokes too far? Yes. I'm not trying to defend them at all."

As for the origins, it starts with Talon. That is where it all started. Period. The End.

But back onto the topic of this thread, we can summarize it in saying someone at GSU Ticket Office was not as thoughtful as they should have been. Some GS fan or fans thought they would be clever. And someone in GSU Athletics said, no, not happening, not today, not with THAT school down South as our AD refers to you. esAnd its such a non story that even the local media could care less. On to week 4...or 3...or whatever...lol

At least in my opinion, no one from GS is making "a big deal" of it other than to bust Ga State's balls for the fact that you put out an obviously not well thought out promotion, and then when your ticket office realized their mistake, they added napalm to the fire by voiding everything. You followed up a bad idea with another bad idea and we are busting your balls for it. Your fans would have reacted the exact same way if we had done it. If you think they wouldn't have, then you're crazy.

No it's not a huge story. The only reason it's still being talked about is because this is a message board, and that's what you do on a message board.
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(09-21-2018 10:23 AM)panama Wrote:  
(09-21-2018 10:21 AM)JCGSU Wrote:  
(09-20-2018 01:04 PM)GSUALUM17 Wrote:  
(09-20-2018 12:44 PM)JCGSU Wrote:  
(09-20-2018 11:55 AM)GSUALUM17 Wrote:  Oh stop it. Cobb is doing a good job. We are raising more money than ever.

Will this show up next year? As of now 74%+ of your budget is allocated. IIRC the state says you have to get down to 65%. From what was reported GaSt only got $879K in donations? Which was down from the previous year and way down from the highest year of $1.5M in 2015.

I know from ArkSt these numbers can be tricky though.

You guys make such a big deal about 65%. No one in the administration is concerned. Cobb said confidently that it isnt a problem. We will be ready for the rule without sacrificing the budget. I haven't seen any red flags, but let me know if you know something that I dont.

Every school does accounting little differently. Some schools allow their athletics to operate as an independent entity. We do not. All received funds are managed by the university's general fund. Then the school pays for whatever the athletics needs for that year. Only the private donations that are specifically allocated to the athletics are counted as such.

Last time I looked at Georgia State's finances, our budget is pretty balanced at $1.2 bil.

The schools budget has nothing to do with the athletic budget especially now and how schools handle funds is regulated at the state level dictated by the BOR last I checked. I seriously doubt someone making a specific donation to the athletics department or football team has their donation thrown into a big pot that might be used for the biology department. Also given the fact that most athletic departments at best lose money based on revenue I am not buying it. I dont make a big deal about the 65% other than you are currently not close. Your reported SPECIFIC athletic donations are not near what you said and is trending down since 2015. I allowed for weird accounting to account for some of that but the lion share of your budget comes from student fees not donations or ticket sale and it is not even close.
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Was not replying to you but thanks for rebutting your fellow GaSt fan.
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...but we have games tomorrow
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(09-20-2018 09:20 PM)Panthers347 Wrote:  
(09-19-2018 07:34 AM)TrueBlueDrew Wrote:  
(09-18-2018 11:43 PM)glsjunior74 Wrote:  I don't blame Southern fans. The $20 bucks they save could've been spent on gnat repellant or for date night with their sister.

You're just mad you didn't get the opportunity. Think of how many 40's and Black&Milds you could have bought with $20. You'd be the most popular guy in the homeless shelter.

Because homeless shelters are full of people drinking 40s and smoking black and milds...

What an awful, misguided, bigoted thing to say.

Which statement the one stereotyping GS fans or the one stereotyping a GSU fan? Dont rip the pearl necklace off clutching it to tight.
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(09-20-2018 11:55 AM)GSUALUM17 Wrote:  
(09-20-2018 11:46 AM)AppManDG Wrote:  More marketing geniusry on the part of Charlie Cobb. You guys still wonder why we were so happy to get rid of him?

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Oh stop it. Cobb is doing a good job. We are raising more money than ever.
That's what we thought....

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(09-21-2018 10:39 AM)AppManDG Wrote:  
(09-20-2018 11:55 AM)GSUALUM17 Wrote:  
(09-20-2018 11:46 AM)AppManDG Wrote:  More marketing geniusry on the part of Charlie Cobb. You guys still wonder why we were so happy to get rid of him?

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Oh stop it. Cobb is doing a good job. We are raising more money than ever.
That's what we thought....

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(09-21-2018 10:36 AM)panama Wrote:  ...but we have games tomorrow

Good luck maybe intimidate them by placing old copies of that ESPN the magazine cover you got...

Seriously just win so we can get more playoff money, thanks in advance if you do.
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(09-21-2018 09:48 AM)GSUALUM17 Wrote:  
(09-21-2018 08:41 AM)eaglewraith Wrote:  
(09-21-2018 07:26 AM)panama Wrote:  
(09-20-2018 11:12 PM)eaglewraith Wrote:  
(09-20-2018 10:45 PM)07pantheralum Wrote:  Since our football program was founded, the ugliness has flowed one way far more than the other when it comes to GS-GSU smack. Karma has been a B so far for the offending side, though. In all sports and aspects. It's been very satisfying to watch that play out.

Ehhhh your folks have given as good as they got.

The best anyone should argue for is that it was mutual. You can't claim victim on this one.

I've seen enough from panama, saint, and hammer to last a lifetime, not to mention the constant drivel from Ben who never ventures into a venue he doesn't have control over to engage with other fanbases.
I love how posts are attributed to me that I never wrote. JCGSU posted a thread from 2010 (sad in itself) from GSUFANS as an example and was 30 pages of people from GS arguing with Saint. I may have made f@ of the drainage ditch and you may hate my opinion but incest jokes and racial jokes aren't my thing.

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The point I was making is there are no victims in this fued. Everyone has participated at some point so either side waving that flag now carries no weight. Whoever tries will get ridiculed for it as well.

Have people taken the jokes too far? Yes. I'm not trying to defend them at all. I'm talking about the origins. And yes you were very active in it at the beginning. Don't try to rewrite history. Hell you can barely carry on a decent conversation with any of our fans when we bring up legitimate points without resulting to memes, simple retorts like LOL, or other similar responses.

I really wish we could get to the point where we could all talk to each other like we do with App fans (actually have good discourse about sports and light hearted smack back and forth) but I don't see that happening any time soon unfortunately.

That is what I want too. I dont want to see anything beyond casual smash talk about sports. But mutual respect will never happen as long as your guys dont stop attacking our alma mater and our city (the hate against ITP is especially strong.) Southern fans really believe that Georgia State is a school of crack addicts and the homeless in a middle of some apocalyptic warzone. How do you carry on rational conversations with Southern fans who truly believe that? This goes way beyond lighthearted joshing and sports talk. I think there are ppl who take utter pleasure whenever seeing something bad happening to Georgia State. This isnt a rivalry. I only see hate.

1) It's not an attack, it's ball busting, 2) making fun of the school or the city is half of what people talk smack about. Do you think we take Appy fans (or your fans) serious when they crack on Statesboro like it's a one blinking yellow light town? 3) NO we don't think that every student is a crack head or homeless, and NO we don't think it's really a warzone. But you can't tell me there are not crack heads and homeless people in and around your campus. And you can't tell me that crime in the inner city of Atlanta is not high. It's like making fun of someone with a big nose. You find what bothers them, and you accentuate it.

Geez, I can't believe we have to give you guys a class in ball busting so we don't hurt your widdle feelwings.....
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(09-21-2018 10:27 AM)TrueBlueDrew Wrote:  There's a disconnect here between smack talk and personal offense. By that same logic, you could say that Southern fans really believe that App State fans fornicate with goats and don't have teeth, or that State fans really believe Southern fans fornicate with their sisters. I don't believe anyone actually believes those things, it's just in the nature of taking jabs at another school. No one really believes that Ga State students are crackheads, but it's a stereotype of Atlanta. Just like y'all use stereotypes of hicks when you "attack" our alma mater and Statesboro. This is, and always has been, a two-way street with both sides taking low blows and "attacking" the other's alma mater.

I hope I speak for all Southern fans when I say that none of us wish anything bad to happen to Ga State or their athletics just because of some internet smack talk like I hope State fans wouldn't wish anything bad to happen to Ga Southern or our athletics.

Here's TrueBlewDrew to me, after he denied that his dad's use of "ghetto" in referring to our fan base and campus had any racial overtones whatsoever. Doesn't seem like he's striking the tone he refers to above.

Don’t worry, neither of us will be back to your trashy campus. We were not impressed with your dirty facilities, rude fans, inappropriate students, and homeless-laiden campus. The only time I will set foot on your campus in the future is as part of a church mission trip to clean it up and feed the many men and women who call your “campus” home.

I have no problem posting the entire exchange. This is not "ball-busting."
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(09-21-2018 10:42 AM)JCGSU Wrote:  
(09-21-2018 10:36 AM)panama Wrote:  ...but we have games tomorrow

Good luck maybe intimidate them by placing old copies of that ESPN the magazine cover you got...

Seriously just win so we can get more playoff money, thanks in advance if you do.

Has been almost a decade ago...

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(09-21-2018 10:50 AM)07pantheralum Wrote:  
(09-21-2018 10:27 AM)TrueBlueDrew Wrote:  There's a disconnect here between smack talk and personal offense. By that same logic, you could say that Southern fans really believe that App State fans fornicate with goats and don't have teeth, or that State fans really believe Southern fans fornicate with their sisters. I don't believe anyone actually believes those things, it's just in the nature of taking jabs at another school. No one really believes that Ga State students are crackheads, but it's a stereotype of Atlanta. Just like y'all use stereotypes of hicks when you "attack" our alma mater and Statesboro. This is, and always has been, a two-way street with both sides taking low blows and "attacking" the other's alma mater.

I hope I speak for all Southern fans when I say that none of us wish anything bad to happen to Ga State or their athletics just because of some internet smack talk like I hope State fans wouldn't wish anything bad to happen to Ga Southern or our athletics.

Here's TrueBlewDrew to me, after he denied that his dad's use of "ghetto" in referring to our fan base and campus had any racial overtones whatsoever. Doesn't seem like he's striking the tone he refers to above.

Don’t worry, neither of us will be back to your trashy campus. We were not impressed with your dirty facilities, rude fans, inappropriate students, and homeless-laiden campus. The only time I will set foot on your campus in the future is as part of a church mission trip to clean it up and feed the many men and women who call your “campus” home.

I have no problem posting the entire exchange. This is not "ball-busting."

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so...umm...there are great thinks happening in Summerhill near the stadium...

https://twitter.com/Summerhill_Atl/statu...5115900929
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(09-21-2018 10:50 AM)07pantheralum Wrote:  
(09-21-2018 10:27 AM)TrueBlueDrew Wrote:  There's a disconnect here between smack talk and personal offense. By that same logic, you could say that Southern fans really believe that App State fans fornicate with goats and don't have teeth, or that State fans really believe Southern fans fornicate with their sisters. I don't believe anyone actually believes those things, it's just in the nature of taking jabs at another school. No one really believes that Ga State students are crackheads, but it's a stereotype of Atlanta. Just like y'all use stereotypes of hicks when you "attack" our alma mater and Statesboro. This is, and always has been, a two-way street with both sides taking low blows and "attacking" the other's alma mater.

I hope I speak for all Southern fans when I say that none of us wish anything bad to happen to Ga State or their athletics just because of some internet smack talk like I hope State fans wouldn't wish anything bad to happen to Ga Southern or our athletics.

Here's TrueBlewDrew to me, after he denied that his dad's use of "ghetto" in referring to our fan base and campus had any racial overtones whatsoever. Doesn't seem like he's striking the tone he refers to above.

Don’t worry, neither of us will be back to your trashy campus. We were not impressed with your dirty facilities, rude fans, inappropriate students, and homeless-laiden campus. The only time I will set foot on your campus in the future is as part of a church mission trip to clean it up and feed the many men and women who call your “campus” home.

I have no problem posting the entire exchange. This is not "ball-busting."

You should post the whole exchange then so everyone can read the personal attacks and accusations you sent me, vague threats that I should "expect hell" in return, and telling me to "stay out of your campus forever." We'd love to read it.

However, I don't think this thread is the place for that, and if you have a problem with me, you can add me to your ignore list like I did you on mine.
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...coffee shop, brewery/restaurant and bbq restaurant should all beopen by Spring...
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(09-21-2018 11:14 AM)panama Wrote:  ...coffee shop, brewery/restaurant and bbq restaurant should all beopen by Spring...

Stop the presses!!!
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(09-21-2018 11:01 AM)panama Wrote:  
(09-21-2018 10:42 AM)JCGSU Wrote:  
(09-21-2018 10:36 AM)panama Wrote:  ...but we have games tomorrow

Good luck maybe intimidate them by placing old copies of that ESPN the magazine cover you got...

Seriously just win so we can get more playoff money, thanks in advance if you do.

Has been almost a decade ago...

lol

My point exactly...
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