(06-18-2018 05:41 PM)THE NC Herd Fan Wrote:  What lies.

The ILLEGALS can go back to their home country any time they want. There is NO proof many of the kids being separated from parents are actually with their parents so separating them might actually save some from abuse.

Yeah, the kids screaming for their parents isn’t proof at all. You guys keep telling yourself that the US isn’t doing anything wrong. Nothing could be further from the truth.

(06-18-2018 06:11 PM)Old Blue Wrote:  MSNBC Analysts Claim Trump Administration Is Currently Operating Concentration Camps

I think some rhetoric is so offensive there ought to be criminal sanctions against it. What a slap in the face to the millions who perished in real concentration camps. This statement alone would cause me to examine my political affiliations. But I'm sure Democrats are convinced they're scoring political points. Fuc#ing ghouls!!

These aren't detention centers as the 4 year olds inside them aren't charged with a crime. They aren't shelters because the kids can't leave. They exist to terrorize small children for the express purpose of making political gains. And they are targeting a racial group.

(06-18-2018 06:11 PM)Old Blue Wrote:  MSNBC Analysts Claim Trump Administration Is Currently Operating Concentration Camps

What a slap in the face to the millions who perished in real concentration camps.

I totally agree. The internment camps for the Japanese from WWII is a more appropriate comparison.

(06-18-2018 06:19 PM)tigergreen Wrote:  

(06-18-2018 06:11 PM)Old Blue Wrote:  MSNBC Analysts Claim Trump Administration Is Currently Operating Concentration Camps

What a slap in the face to the millions who perished in real concentration camps.

I totally agree. The internment camps for the Japanese from WWII is a more appropriate comparison.

I see you didn't watch the Ben Shapiro video that debunked all your fake news talking points.

He debunked that, too. That also isn't an appropriate comparison.

(06-18-2018 05:24 PM)JMUDunk Wrote:  

(06-18-2018 04:24 PM)tigergreen Wrote:  

(06-18-2018 03:57 PM)Lord Stanley Wrote:  So Bill Clinton, Democrat, signs the 1997 Flores Settlement Agreement and Barack Obama, Democrat, enforced the Trafficking Victims Protection Reauthorization Act of 2008, and this is all Trump's fault?

The 1997 Flores Settlement Agreement calls for the release of unaccompanied minors to family members or sponsors who can care for them as their immigration case is resolved.

The Trafficking Victims Protection Reauthorization Act of 2008 determines that unaccompanied minors be transferred to Health and Human Services custody.

Both involve kids who are not with their families. The current situation of kids being removed from their parents is indeed this administration's fault.

"Release" from where, exactly?

Unaccompanied minors would be in government custody until they were given to their family.

Key word: unaccompanied. No one has said that NO kid has EVER been in gov’t custody prior to now.

Kids who were with their parents stayed with their parents unless the parents committed a crime here...until Trump decided to use them as bargaining chips.

Bookmarked for tigergreen's convenience. Please watch, and then retract and disavow that fake news talking point about Japanese internment camps.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FqXaGGjZH3E#t=25m03s

(06-18-2018 06:23 PM)Kronke Wrote:  

(06-18-2018 06:19 PM)tigergreen Wrote:  

(06-18-2018 06:11 PM)Old Blue Wrote:  MSNBC Analysts Claim Trump Administration Is Currently Operating Concentration Camps

What a slap in the face to the millions who perished in real concentration camps.

I totally agree. The internment camps for the Japanese from WWII is a more appropriate comparison.

I see you didn't watch the Ben Shapiro video that debunked all your fake news talking points.

He debunked that, too. That also isn't an appropriate comparison.

Because this is what happens when you click on your link:

(06-18-2018 06:26 PM)Kronke Wrote:  Bookmarked for tigergreen's convenience. Please watch, and then retract and disavow that fake news talking point about Japanese internment camps.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FqXaGGjZH3E#t=25m03s

Ben Shapiro? Please.

We've been through this before. Simply posting some hard right supporter of Trump's policy doesn't make tigergreens' assertions 'fake news'.

(06-18-2018 06:28 PM)tigergreen Wrote:  

(06-18-2018 06:23 PM)Kronke Wrote:  

(06-18-2018 06:19 PM)tigergreen Wrote:  

(06-18-2018 06:11 PM)Old Blue Wrote:  MSNBC Analysts Claim Trump Administration Is Currently Operating Concentration Camps

What a slap in the face to the millions who perished in real concentration camps.

I totally agree. The internment camps for the Japanese from WWII is a more appropriate comparison.

I see you didn't watch the Ben Shapiro video that debunked all your fake news talking points.

He debunked that, too. That also isn't an appropriate comparison.

Because this is what happens when you click on your link:

Fixed. I accidentally deleted the video code whenever copy/pasting the timestamp.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FqXaGGjZH3E#t=02m03s

(06-18-2018 06:31 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(06-18-2018 06:26 PM)Kronke Wrote:  Bookmarked for tigergreen's convenience. Please watch, and then retract and disavow that fake news talking point about Japanese internment camps.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FqXaGGjZH3E#t=25m03s

Ben Shapiro? Please.

We've been through this before. Simply posting some hard right supporter of Trump's policy doesn't make tigergreens' assertions 'fake news'.

He's a never Trumper. He's also a Harvard lawyer, and walks you through the actual law, instead of your typical BS media matters spin.

Everything you say is flipped 180-degrees from reality. It's incredible.

(06-18-2018 05:57 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(06-18-2018 05:41 PM)THE NC Herd Fan Wrote:  What lies.

The ILLEGALS can go back to their home country any time they want. There is NO proof many of the kids being separated from parents are actually with their parents so separating them might actually save some from abuse.

Asylum seekers are not illegals. They can't go back, they'll be killed. Fix the problems that WE CREATED in Honduras, Guatemala, and El Salvador (gang violence and civil war created largely by US deportation policies) and Mexico (gang violence fed largely by lax US firearms sales oversight and US drug consumption).

These people are human beings. At least to people that aren't Trump supporters.

The US has its own gang violence problems AND Gang violence is no longer accepted as reason for asylum in the US. Asylum seekers are supposed to be given asylum by the first country they enter after leaving their own so they are safe in Mexico no reason for them to come to the US. Many of these children are being brought to the US by non-family members using them to exploit feeble minded liberals in the US that would let the whole world move here.

(06-18-2018 06:18 PM)tigergreen Wrote:  

(06-18-2018 05:41 PM)THE NC Herd Fan Wrote:  What lies.

The ILLEGALS can go back to their home country any time they want. There is NO proof many of the kids being separated from parents are actually with their parents so separating them might actually save some from abuse.

Yeah, the kids screaming for their parents isn’t proof at all. You guys keep telling yourself that the US isn’t doing anything wrong. Nothing could be further from the truth.

Absolutely the US is doing something wrong. We should be loading these people up on trains and buses and sending them home.

For the record, how many of the 12000 unaccompanied minors are the noble democrats in this thread adopting?

(06-18-2018 06:33 PM)THE NC Herd Fan Wrote:  

(06-18-2018 05:57 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(06-18-2018 05:41 PM)THE NC Herd Fan Wrote:  What lies.

The ILLEGALS can go back to their home country any time they want. There is NO proof many of the kids being separated from parents are actually with their parents so separating them might actually save some from abuse.

Asylum seekers are not illegals. They can't go back, they'll be killed. Fix the problems that WE CREATED in Honduras, Guatemala, and El Salvador (gang violence and civil war created largely by US deportation policies) and Mexico (gang violence fed largely by lax US firearms sales oversight and US drug consumption).

These people are human beings. At least to people that aren't Trump supporters.

The US has its own gang violence problems AND Gang violence is no longer accepted as reason for asylum in the US. Asylum seekers are supposed to be given asylum by the first country they enter after leaving their own so they are safe in Mexico no reason for them to come to the US. Many of these children are being brought to the US by non-family members using them to exploit feeble minded liberals in the US that would let the whole world move here.

They aren't safe in Mexico. The Maras in Central America are linked with the gangs in Mexico.

And Gang Violence IS a reason for asylum. Trump is trying to 'solve' the asylum problem by arbitrarlly calling most asylum seekers who are not white ineligible.

(06-18-2018 06:08 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(06-18-2018 06:02 PM)appst89 Wrote:  

(06-18-2018 06:00 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(06-18-2018 05:58 PM)appst89 Wrote:  Cartoon characters gonna cartoon.

Yea, ripping 4 year olds from their mothers and throwing them in cages because they're not white is a bucket of laughs to some people, apparently.

You want to talk to me about morality?

You have definitely picked up your game recently. You are back to being the entertaining troll you used to be.

Yes, a homo is calling your support of Trumps indefensible policy immoral and the utter and complete and utter negation of Christianity.

"Suffer the little Children unto me" has now become "Suffer the Children because of me (Trump)".

Is that in the 4chan/Red Pill Bible?

You need to make up your rabbit-assed mind.

If you want us to govern this country based on Christian principles then you and people who share your degenerate lifestyle can replace the illegal alien children in the detention facilities because it's a violation of Christian principles.

(06-18-2018 06:45 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(06-18-2018 06:33 PM)THE NC Herd Fan Wrote:  

(06-18-2018 05:57 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(06-18-2018 05:41 PM)THE NC Herd Fan Wrote:  What lies.

The ILLEGALS can go back to their home country any time they want. There is NO proof many of the kids being separated from parents are actually with their parents so separating them might actually save some from abuse.

Asylum seekers are not illegals. They can't go back, they'll be killed. Fix the problems that WE CREATED in Honduras, Guatemala, and El Salvador (gang violence and civil war created largely by US deportation policies) and Mexico (gang violence fed largely by lax US firearms sales oversight and US drug consumption).

These people are human beings. At least to people that aren't Trump supporters.

The US has its own gang violence problems AND Gang violence is no longer accepted as reason for asylum in the US. Asylum seekers are supposed to be given asylum by the first country they enter after leaving their own so they are safe in Mexico no reason for them to come to the US. Many of these children are being brought to the US by non-family members using them to exploit feeble minded liberals in the US that would let the whole world move here.

They aren't safe in Mexico. The Maras in Central America are linked with the gangs in Mexico.

And Gang Violence IS a reason for asylum. Trump is trying to 'solve' the asylum problem by arbitrarlly calling most asylum seekers who are not white ineligible.

The governments of these countries are responsible for maintaining law and order in their country. Their failures is NO reason for the US to destroy our nation by taking in hundreds of thousands of poor low skilled people who are really seeking economic opportunity NOT asylum.

(06-18-2018 03:26 PM)gdunn Wrote:  I'm still waiting for the law that says entering this country illegally is a misdemeanor

A lot of these parents and kids did not crossed the border illegally. They asked for asylum at the port of entry. Once they got granted access, the parents were arrested, and split from their kids. There is a family who is fleeing from Guatemala because of a hit on one of their children who already have been shot in the eye, and suffered other injuries from the drug cartels and their gang of thugs. The child is under 15. These cartels do sometimes have connections with other cartels in other countries including Mexico. This family needs asylum from protection from these thugs. US is the best place for them, and the child do need some medical help since the country they came from do not have the methods to treat such cases like this boy.

(06-18-2018 06:12 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(06-18-2018 06:10 PM)appst89 Wrote:  

(06-18-2018 06:08 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(06-18-2018 06:02 PM)appst89 Wrote:  

(06-18-2018 06:00 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  Yea, ripping 4 year olds from their mothers and throwing them in cages because they're not white is a bucket of laughs to some people, apparently.

You want to talk to me about morality?

You have definitely picked up your game recently. You are back to being the entertaining troll you used to be.

Yes, a homo is calling your support of Trumps indefensible policy immoral and the utter and complete and utter negation of Christianity.

"Suffer the little Children unto me" has now become "Suffer the Children because of me (Trump)".

I love cartoons.

And apparently you love racist cruelty against 4 year olds.

What I love is your comedy routine.

(06-18-2018 07:16 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  

(06-18-2018 03:26 PM)gdunn Wrote:  I'm still waiting for the law that says entering this country illegally is a misdemeanor

A lot of these parents and kids did not crossed the border illegally. They asked for asylum at the port of entry. Once they got granted access, the parents were arrested, and split from their kids. There is a family who is fleeing from Guatemala because of a hit on one of their children who already have been shot in the eye, and suffered other injuries from the drug cartels and their gang of thugs. The child is under 15. These cartels do sometimes have connections with other cartels in other countries including Mexico. This family needs asylum from protection from these thugs. US is the best place for them, and the child do need some medical help since the country they came from do not have the methods to treat such cases like this boy.

There are MILLIONS of kids across the world in situations as bad or worse than what you mention, we cannot save the world, but the world could very well destroy this nation.

(06-18-2018 07:16 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  

(06-18-2018 03:26 PM)gdunn Wrote:  I'm still waiting for the law that says entering this country illegally is a misdemeanor

A lot of these parents and kids did not crossed the border illegally. They asked for asylum at the port of entry. Once they got granted access, the parents were arrested, and split from their kids. There is a family who is fleeing from Guatemala because of a hit on one of their children who already have been shot in the eye, and suffered other injuries from the drug cartels and their gang of thugs. The child is under 15. These cartels do sometimes have connections with other cartels in other countries including Mexico. This family needs asylum from protection from these thugs. US is the best place for them, and the child do need some medical help since the country they came from do not have the methods to treat such cases like this boy.

So what you are saying is you agree with Trump in that these countries are shiteholes?