(06-18-2018 01:30 PM)gdunn Wrote:  Do other criminals get to take their kids with them?

If they have been arrested for misdemeanors, they're typically at home with their kids prior to their hearing.

(06-18-2018 01:24 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(06-18-2018 01:21 PM)gdunn Wrote:  I'm still trying to wrap my bread around needing asylum from a place that a few months ago the Dems said weren't dangerous or a sh*thole

People have figured out their con. Democrats have always preyed on the gullible, the soft hearted, the ignorant and the amoral moralists. I pity the first three types, the remainder disgust me.

Spare me. Repubs are literally preying on innocent victims in this (the kids), hoping it will force a hand politically. They are the disgusting ones in this scenario.

(06-18-2018 03:06 PM)tigergreen Wrote:  

(06-18-2018 01:30 PM)gdunn Wrote:  Do other criminals get to take their kids with them?

If they have been arrested for misdemeanors, they're typically at home with their kids prior to their hearing.

Show me where this is a misdemeanor...

(06-18-2018 03:07 PM)tigergreen Wrote:  

(06-18-2018 01:24 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(06-18-2018 01:21 PM)gdunn Wrote:  I'm still trying to wrap my bread around needing asylum from a place that a few months ago the Dems said weren't dangerous or a sh*thole

People have figured out their con. Democrats have always preyed on the gullible, the soft hearted, the ignorant and the amoral moralists. I pity the first three types, the remainder disgust me.

Spare me. Repubs are literally preying on innocent victims in this (the kids), hoping it will force a hand politically. They are the disgusting ones in this scenario.

By continuing Obama's work? Interesting.

(06-18-2018 03:07 PM)tigergreen Wrote:  

(06-18-2018 01:24 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(06-18-2018 01:21 PM)gdunn Wrote:  I'm still trying to wrap my bread around needing asylum from a place that a few months ago the Dems said weren't dangerous or a sh*thole

People have figured out their con. Democrats have always preyed on the gullible, the soft hearted, the ignorant and the amoral moralists. I pity the first three types, the remainder disgust me.

Spare me. Repubs are literally preying on innocent victims in this (the kids), hoping it will force a hand politically. They are the disgusting ones in this scenario.

Spare me. Dems are literally using innocent victims in this (the kids), hoping it will force a hand politically. They are the disgusting ones in this scenario.

(06-18-2018 01:29 PM)Oman Wrote:  

(06-18-2018 12:58 PM)tigergreen Wrote:  

(06-18-2018 12:54 PM)Kronke Wrote:  

(06-18-2018 12:50 PM)Lush Wrote:  so, what is the reason kids are being seperated?

Parents are incarcerated, and legal precedent says kids can't.

dems want the families to stay together, therefore dems want to send innocent children to prison.

No, the law says nothing about having to charge the parents as criminals. Keep it as a misdemeanor as it was prior to April, and you don't have to separate the kids.

Sessions/the Trump administration is removing kids from their parents in a political ploy.

Is it possible you're getting only a very skewed version of the actual facts? Are you perhaps being used as a political ploy?

Here's a thought.... take your child, and the two of you try to cross the border undocumented into. "X" ( pick a place, just about any place ) Do you think that:

a) you will be received with open arms and you and your children will be cared for in comfort by your new host country..
b) you will be arrested and thrown in prison, but your minor child will go with you because its a family friendly prison....
c) you will be put in prison and your child separated from you?

We all know the answer here, but I guess America is different, we don't really have any immigration laws...

The facts aren't skewed - prior to April, these people would have been accused of committing a misdemeanor, and the family would have gone to a holding facility together.

After April, this new policy from the administration bumps that up to criminal charges, which of course prevents the kids from being with the parents, hence the uptick in separations.

Like it or not, it is still a misdemeanor in this country to come over with no other criminal activity. This "policy" is just trying to skirt that, and force Congress's hand.

Again, no matter what other countries' laws are, the US should be better than this.

(06-18-2018 03:12 PM)UTSAMarineVet09 Wrote:  

(06-18-2018 03:07 PM)tigergreen Wrote:  

(06-18-2018 01:24 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(06-18-2018 01:21 PM)gdunn Wrote:  I'm still trying to wrap my bread around needing asylum from a place that a few months ago the Dems said weren't dangerous or a sh*thole

People have figured out their con. Democrats have always preyed on the gullible, the soft hearted, the ignorant and the amoral moralists. I pity the first three types, the remainder disgust me.

Spare me. Repubs are literally preying on innocent victims in this (the kids), hoping it will force a hand politically. They are the disgusting ones in this scenario.

Spare me. Dems are literally using innocent victims in this (the kids), hoping it will force a hand politically. They are the disgusting ones in this scenario.

Sorry, a repub administration created this complete fiasco of a policy - what's happening to the majority of these kids is on them.

(06-18-2018 03:16 PM)tigergreen Wrote:  Sorry, a repub administration created this complete fiasco of a policy

TIL that Obama is a Republican.

(06-18-2018 03:12 PM)49RFootballNow Wrote:  

(06-18-2018 03:07 PM)tigergreen Wrote:  

(06-18-2018 01:24 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(06-18-2018 01:21 PM)gdunn Wrote:  I'm still trying to wrap my bread around needing asylum from a place that a few months ago the Dems said weren't dangerous or a sh*thole

People have figured out their con. Democrats have always preyed on the gullible, the soft hearted, the ignorant and the amoral moralists. I pity the first three types, the remainder disgust me.

Spare me. Repubs are literally preying on innocent victims in this (the kids), hoping it will force a hand politically. They are the disgusting ones in this scenario.

By continuing Obama's work? Interesting.

Obama's administration didn't amp up the level of charges to criminal for anyone who comes across - nice try. If every last one of these kids had parents who had committed crimes once they were here, that would be apples to apples. This isn't.

(06-18-2018 03:17 PM)Lord Stanley Wrote:  

(06-18-2018 03:16 PM)tigergreen Wrote:  Sorry, a repub administration created this complete fiasco of a policy

TIL that Obama is a Republican.

By "Obama" you mean "Sessions," obviously.

(06-18-2018 03:12 PM)UTSAMarineVet09 Wrote:  

(06-18-2018 03:07 PM)tigergreen Wrote:  

(06-18-2018 01:24 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(06-18-2018 01:21 PM)gdunn Wrote:  I'm still trying to wrap my bread around needing asylum from a place that a few months ago the Dems said weren't dangerous or a sh*thole

People have figured out their con. Democrats have always preyed on the gullible, the soft hearted, the ignorant and the amoral moralists. I pity the first three types, the remainder disgust me.

Spare me. Repubs are literally preying on innocent victims in this (the kids), hoping it will force a hand politically. They are the disgusting ones in this scenario.

Spare me. Dems are literally using innocent victims in this (the kids), hoping it will force a hand politically. They are the disgusting ones in this scenario.

They've got their hate Trump talking points for the week. Black lives matter is so passe

(06-18-2018 03:20 PM)tigergreen Wrote:  

(06-18-2018 03:17 PM)Lord Stanley Wrote:  

(06-18-2018 03:16 PM)tigergreen Wrote:  Sorry, a repub administration created this complete fiasco of a policy

TIL that Obama is a Republican.

By "Obama" you mean "Sessions," obviously.

No. You told me a Republican administration created this policy.

Since this policy is from the Obama administration, ergo Obama is a Republican.

The question is this for everybody on here, no matter which side you are on. How would you feel the government take your children away and put them in a cage? This needs to stop, and this is hurting Trump even worst.

(06-18-2018 03:23 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  The question is this for everybody on here, no matter which side you are on. How would you feel the government take your children away and put them in a cage? This needs to stop, and this is hurting Trump even worst.

As a parent, I wouldn't put my kids in that situation.

(06-18-2018 03:22 PM)Lord Stanley Wrote:  

(06-18-2018 03:20 PM)tigergreen Wrote:  

(06-18-2018 03:17 PM)Lord Stanley Wrote:  

(06-18-2018 03:16 PM)tigergreen Wrote:  Sorry, a repub administration created this complete fiasco of a policy

TIL that Obama is a Republican.

By "Obama" you mean "Sessions," obviously.

No. You told me a Republican administration created this policy.

Since this policy is from the Obama administration, ergo Obama is a Republican.

The zero tolerance policy was created by Sessions in April 2018.

"Accordingly, I direct each United States Attorney's Office along the Southwest Border to
the extent practicable, and in consultation with DHS- to adopt immediately a zero-tolerance
policy for all offenses referred for prosecution under section 1325(a). This zero-tolerance policy
shall supersede any existing policies."

(06-18-2018 03:22 PM)Lord Stanley Wrote:  

(06-18-2018 03:20 PM)tigergreen Wrote:  

(06-18-2018 03:17 PM)Lord Stanley Wrote:  

(06-18-2018 03:16 PM)tigergreen Wrote:  Sorry, a repub administration created this complete fiasco of a policy

TIL that Obama is a Republican.

By "Obama" you mean "Sessions," obviously.

No. You told me a Republican administration created this policy.

Since this policy is from the Obama administration, ergo Obama is a Republican.

The Obama administration literally gave guns to Mexico but Sessions is evil for enforcing immigration law. I just laugh at them at this point.

The intellectual and moral dishonesty of democrats is comical.

(06-18-2018 03:07 PM)tigergreen Wrote:  

(06-18-2018 01:24 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(06-18-2018 01:21 PM)gdunn Wrote:  I'm still trying to wrap my bread around needing asylum from a place that a few months ago the Dems said weren't dangerous or a sh*thole

People have figured out their con. Democrats have always preyed on the gullible, the soft hearted, the ignorant and the amoral moralists. I pity the first three types, the remainder disgust me.

Spare me. Repubs are literally preying on innocent victims in this (the kids), hoping it will force a hand politically. They are the disgusting ones in this scenario.

I'm still waiting for the law that says entering this country illegally is a misdemeanor

(06-18-2018 03:26 PM)EverRespect Wrote:  

(06-18-2018 03:07 PM)tigergreen Wrote:  

(06-18-2018 01:24 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(06-18-2018 01:21 PM)gdunn Wrote:  I'm still trying to wrap my bread around needing asylum from a place that a few months ago the Dems said weren't dangerous or a sh*thole

People have figured out their con. Democrats have always preyed on the gullible, the soft hearted, the ignorant and the amoral moralists. I pity the first three types, the remainder disgust me.

Spare me. Repubs are literally preying on innocent victims in this (the kids), hoping it will force a hand politically. They are the disgusting ones in this scenario.

Two wrongs don't make a right.

(06-18-2018 03:26 PM)EverRespect Wrote:  

(06-18-2018 03:07 PM)tigergreen Wrote:  

(06-18-2018 01:24 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(06-18-2018 01:21 PM)gdunn Wrote:  I'm still trying to wrap my bread around needing asylum from a place that a few months ago the Dems said weren't dangerous or a sh*thole

People have figured out their con. Democrats have always preyed on the gullible, the soft hearted, the ignorant and the amoral moralists. I pity the first three types, the remainder disgust me.

Spare me. Repubs are literally preying on innocent victims in this (the kids), hoping it will force a hand politically. They are the disgusting ones in this scenario.

That was a walk off grand slam home run post. +3.