(06-18-2018 01:21 PM)gdunn Wrote:  I'm still trying to wrap my bread around needing asylum from a place that a few months ago the Dems said weren't dangerous or a sh*thole

People have figured out their con. Democrats have always preyed on the gullible, the soft hearted, the ignorant and the amoral moralists. I pity the first three types, the remainder disgust me.

(06-18-2018 12:58 PM)tigergreen Wrote:  

(06-18-2018 12:54 PM)Kronke Wrote:  

(06-18-2018 12:50 PM)Lush Wrote:  so, what is the reason kids are being seperated?

Parents are incarcerated, and legal precedent says kids can't.

dems want the families to stay together, therefore dems want to send innocent children to prison.

No, the law says nothing about having to charge the parents as criminals. Keep it as a misdemeanor as it was prior to April, and you don't have to separate the kids.

Sessions/the Trump administration is removing kids from their parents in a political ploy.

Is it possible you're getting only a very skewed version of the actual facts? Are you perhaps being used as a political ploy?

Here's a thought.... take your child, and the two of you try to cross the border undocumented into. "X" ( pick a place, just about any place ) Do you think that:

a) you will be received with open arms and you and your children will be cared for in comfort by your new host country..
b) you will be arrested and thrown in prison, but your minor child will go with you because its a family friendly prison....
c) you will be put in prison and your child separated from you?

We all know the answer here, but I guess America is different, we don't really have any immigration laws...

Do other criminals get to take their kids with them?

(06-18-2018 12:31 PM)thespiritof1976 Wrote:  

(06-18-2018 12:26 PM)fsquid Wrote:  

(06-18-2018 12:20 PM)thespiritof1976 Wrote:  Every day, millions of children are forcibly removed from their parents and sent to fascist indoctrination centers called public schools.

Unsure where you live, but you have a choice on schools.

In many states, they'll send the SWAT team to your house so your kid can learn how to become a good little dirt bag pervert commie.

Can you name some?

“The United States will not be a migrant camp and it will not be a refugee holding facility. It won’t be. You look at what is happening in Europe and other places, we can’t allow it to happen to the United States. Not on my watch,” Trump declared."

Man just got my vote based on THAT statement alone. Nice to see someone ACTUALLY putting the best interests of THIS country and it's CITIZENS FIRST!

http://dailycaller.com/2018/06/18/not-on...rant-camp/

(06-18-2018 12:58 PM)tigergreen Wrote:  

(06-18-2018 12:54 PM)Kronke Wrote:  

(06-18-2018 12:50 PM)Lush Wrote:  so, what is the reason kids are being seperated?

Parents are incarcerated, and legal precedent says kids can't.

dems want the families to stay together, therefore dems want to send innocent children to prison.

No, the law says nothing about having to charge the parents as criminals. Keep it as a misdemeanor as it was prior to April, and you don't have to separate the kids.

Sessions/the Trump administration is removing kids from their parents in a political ploy.

i'm an open borders guy and am sympathetic to your point of view, likewise am sympathetic to anyone escaping the violence back home. anyone entering this country with intentions to live is certainly seeking asylum. does seeking asylum necessitate a coyote? is this the only option?

Charles Manson had 3 kids. What horror that the government separated them.

LIBERAL LOGIC

(06-18-2018 01:30 PM)gdunn Wrote:  Do other criminals get to take their kids with them?

Exactly!

How many parents are "separated from their children" on a daily basis after being arrested or convicted & sentenced?

By dem logic (and I use that term loosely), we shouldn't put anyone away who has kids as to not "separate them from their parent(s)".

Oh, I know I just knocked over a liquor store but you can't incarcerate me, I have kids......

(06-18-2018 01:36 PM)Lush Wrote:  

(06-18-2018 12:58 PM)tigergreen Wrote:  

(06-18-2018 12:54 PM)Kronke Wrote:  

(06-18-2018 12:50 PM)Lush Wrote:  so, what is the reason kids are being seperated?

Parents are incarcerated, and legal precedent says kids can't.

dems want the families to stay together, therefore dems want to send innocent children to prison.

No, the law says nothing about having to charge the parents as criminals. Keep it as a misdemeanor as it was prior to April, and you don't have to separate the kids.

Sessions/the Trump administration is removing kids from their parents in a political ploy.

i'm an open borders guy and am sympathetic to your point of view, likewise am sympathetic to anyone escaping the violence back home. anyone entering this country with intentions to live is certainly seeking asylum. does seeking asylum necessitate a coyote? is this the only option?

I'm confused... are they coming from schit holes or not?

Coming this Christmas:

Even many people that disagree with Trump on this admire his "buck stops here" mentality. And it isn't a catch phrase with him either.

(06-18-2018 01:38 PM)EverRespect Wrote:  

(06-18-2018 01:36 PM)Lush Wrote:  

(06-18-2018 12:58 PM)tigergreen Wrote:  

(06-18-2018 12:54 PM)Kronke Wrote:  

(06-18-2018 12:50 PM)Lush Wrote:  so, what is the reason kids are being seperated?

Parents are incarcerated, and legal precedent says kids can't.

dems want the families to stay together, therefore dems want to send innocent children to prison.

No, the law says nothing about having to charge the parents as criminals. Keep it as a misdemeanor as it was prior to April, and you don't have to separate the kids.

Sessions/the Trump administration is removing kids from their parents in a political ploy.

i'm an open borders guy and am sympathetic to your point of view, likewise am sympathetic to anyone escaping the violence back home. anyone entering this country with intentions to live is certainly seeking asylum. does seeking asylum necessitate a coyote? is this the only option?

I'm confused... are they coming from schit holes or not?

sure pal

(06-18-2018 01:37 PM)BadgerMJ Wrote:  

(06-18-2018 01:30 PM)gdunn Wrote:  Do other criminals get to take their kids with them?

Exactly!

How many parents are "separated from their children" on a daily basis after being arrested or convicted & sentenced?

By dem logic (and I use that term loosely), we shouldn't put anyone away who has kids as to not "separate them from their parent(s)".

Oh, I know I just knocked over a liquor store but you can't incarcerate me, I have kids......

Stop being obtuse. This should not have to be explained to you.

New fire proof flag being promoted by the Democrats

(06-18-2018 01:47 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(06-18-2018 01:37 PM)BadgerMJ Wrote:  

(06-18-2018 01:30 PM)gdunn Wrote:  Do other criminals get to take their kids with them?

Exactly!

How many parents are "separated from their children" on a daily basis after being arrested or convicted & sentenced?

By dem logic (and I use that term loosely), we shouldn't put anyone away who has kids as to not "separate them from their parent(s)".

Oh, I know I just knocked over a liquor store but you can't incarcerate me, I have kids......

Stop being obtuse. This should not have to be explained to you.

Again. 90k kids were separated from their parents in the previous administration. I don't recall you guys getting all pissy.

Secondly these people broke the laws of a foreign country. A country that we've been told is hated world wide. So why come here for asylum. Sorry they broke the laws. This is the consequences. If I get busted for a DUI and go to jail, I will be separated from my son and who here will defend me for that? Not a f'n soul.

(06-18-2018 01:58 PM)gdunn Wrote:  

(06-18-2018 01:47 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(06-18-2018 01:37 PM)BadgerMJ Wrote:  

(06-18-2018 01:30 PM)gdunn Wrote:  Do other criminals get to take their kids with them?

Exactly!

How many parents are "separated from their children" on a daily basis after being arrested or convicted & sentenced?

By dem logic (and I use that term loosely), we shouldn't put anyone away who has kids as to not "separate them from their parent(s)".

Oh, I know I just knocked over a liquor store but you can't incarcerate me, I have kids......

Stop being obtuse. This should not have to be explained to you.

Again. 90k kids were separated from their parents in the previous administration. I don't recall you guys getting all pissy.

I was wondering if all this was new.

(06-18-2018 02:04 PM)VA49er Wrote:  

(06-18-2018 01:58 PM)gdunn Wrote:  

(06-18-2018 01:47 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(06-18-2018 01:37 PM)BadgerMJ Wrote:  

(06-18-2018 01:30 PM)gdunn Wrote:  Do other criminals get to take their kids with them?

Exactly!

How many parents are "separated from their children" on a daily basis after being arrested or convicted & sentenced?

By dem logic (and I use that term loosely), we shouldn't put anyone away who has kids as to not "separate them from their parent(s)".

Oh, I know I just knocked over a liquor store but you can't incarcerate me, I have kids......

Stop being obtuse. This should not have to be explained to you.

Again. 90k kids were separated from their parents in the previous administration. I don't recall you guys getting all pissy.

I was wondering if all this was new.

New way to attack Trump. That's all.

I think the MSM has held this close until they confirmed. When the pic from a couple weeks ago blew up they would've dropped it them. Heat has cooled so now they're dropping this. Again it's just not under Trump's watch.

(06-18-2018 01:47 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(06-18-2018 01:37 PM)BadgerMJ Wrote:  

(06-18-2018 01:30 PM)gdunn Wrote:  Do other criminals get to take their kids with them?

Exactly!

How many parents are "separated from their children" on a daily basis after being arrested or convicted & sentenced?

By dem logic (and I use that term loosely), we shouldn't put anyone away who has kids as to not "separate them from their parent(s)".

Oh, I know I just knocked over a liquor store but you can't incarcerate me, I have kids......

Stop being obtuse. This should not have to be explained to you.

It's not being obtuse, it's called applying the argument evenly.

If it's not OK for one group of criminals then the same should apply to other groups.

What's good for the goose is good for the gander.

Or perhaps it's another example of leftist selective outrage.

it'd be nice if those seeking refuge from the violence had an easier path, perhaps that's why they choose to go this route

Quote:Under asylum law, people seeking protection must show that they have been persecuted or have a well-founded fear that they will be persecuted because of their race, religion, nationality, political opinion or membership in a social group.

Being afraid of general violence or rampant crime is not enough to win a case.

http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me...story.html