(06-18-2018 12:28 PM)VA49er Wrote:  

(06-18-2018 12:10 PM)tigergreen Wrote:  

(06-18-2018 12:06 PM)VA49er Wrote:  

(06-18-2018 12:05 PM)tigergreen Wrote:  

(06-18-2018 11:57 AM)VA49er Wrote:  THAT's the part everyone is willfully ignoring.......

No, the separation of kids from parents is an elective policy that has been amped up several notches since April. If it were about the "law," it would have been happening at this level for the past 18 months.

Previous administrations used it sparingly, when the safety of the kids was in question. There is no "law" stating that children must be separated from parents who have been held by DHS.

They're using children to try to ramp up political pressure, and it's vile. Period.

Responsibility still rests with the parents.

The parents would love to have the responsibility of their kids, but our government has taken them away. The US government is choosing to remove kids from their parents in order to try to force Congress' hand. It's not okay.

You are ignoring the clear fact that the govt would not take any kid away from any parent if the parent didn't bring the kid in the first place.

If you're seeking asylum, you are literally stuck between the proverbial rock & hard place. Do you stay & wait on the 'proper channels,' possibly endangering your kids, or do you make a move?

Prior to Sessions' April policy, these parents would have been guilty of a misdemeanor, and possibly not held in jail. Now, they've been cranked up to criminal charges in the name of politics.

(06-18-2018 12:33 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(06-18-2018 12:22 PM)Kronke Wrote:  

(06-18-2018 12:14 PM)tigergreen Wrote:  You can't diminish the fact that the statement is true by waving it off as a "talking point." It's a political ploy, not a law.

Secretary Nielsen already debunked it as fake news.

Click to read entire thread,

Sec. Kirstjen Nielsen

@SecNielsen

This misreporting by Members, press & advocacy groups must stop. It is irresponsible and unproductive. As I have said many times before, if you are seeking asylum for your family, there is no reason to break the law and illegally cross between ports of entry.

4:51 PM · Jun 17, 2018
__________________________

Start moving theses people into the homes of registered democrats

Put a price on virtue signaling.

End of thread.

so, what is the reason kids are being seperated?

(06-18-2018 12:50 PM)Lush Wrote:  so, what is the reason kids are being seperated?

Parents are incarcerated, and legal precedent says kids can't.

dems want the families to stay together, therefore dems want to send innocent children to prison.

(06-18-2018 12:50 PM)Lush Wrote:  so, what is the reason kids are being seperated?

Again, because of Session's new 'zero tolerance' policy. The parents are now being charged as criminals, which wasn't the SOP prior to April:

Typically, people apprehended crossing into the US are held in immigration detention and sent before an immigration judge to see if they will be deported as unauthorized immigrants.

But migrants who’ve been referred for criminal prosecution get sent to a federal jail and brought before a federal judge a few weeks later to see if they’ll get prison time. That’s where the separation happens — because you can’t be kept with your children in federal jail.

(06-18-2018 12:54 PM)tigergreen Wrote:  But migrants who’ve been referred for criminal prosecution get sent to a federal jail and brought before a federal judge a few weeks later to see if they’ll get prison time. That’s where the separation happens — because you can’t be kept with your children in federal jail.[/i]

Step 2- Don't like the law? Change the law.
Step 1- Don't break the law.

(06-18-2018 12:54 PM)Kronke Wrote:  

(06-18-2018 12:50 PM)Lush Wrote:  so, what is the reason kids are being seperated?

Parents are incarcerated, and legal precedent says kids can't.

dems want the families to stay together, therefore dems want to send innocent children to prison.

No, the law says nothing about having to charge the parents as criminals. Keep it as a misdemeanor as it was prior to April, and you don't have to separate the kids.

Sessions/the Trump administration is removing kids from their parents in a political ploy.

(06-18-2018 12:58 PM)tigergreen Wrote:  

(06-18-2018 12:54 PM)Kronke Wrote:  

(06-18-2018 12:50 PM)Lush Wrote:  so, what is the reason kids are being seperated?

Parents are incarcerated, and legal precedent says kids can't.

dems want the families to stay together, therefore dems want to send innocent children to prison.

No, the law says nothing about having to charge the parents as criminals. Keep it as a misdemeanor as it was prior to April, and you don't have to separate the kids.

Sessions/the Trump administration is removing kids from their parents in a political ploy.

So you want to give them a slap on the wrist and a date to appear in court, so they can take off and never be seen again.

It's a scam, and President Trump was elected to put an end to it.

(06-18-2018 12:50 PM)Lush Wrote:  so, what is the reason kids are being seperated?

Because the law.

Why is now suddenly important?

Because democrats will use children when politically expedient.

This is pretty simple and once again a black & white issue.

If you don't want to risk being "separated from your kids", come here LEGALLY or seek "asylum" LEGALLY thru the proper channels.

If you refuse to follow our laws and procedures, that's on YOU, not on us.

Personally, it's about fricking time we start cracking down on this.

Just because you snuck in doesn't mean we need to keep you here.

(06-18-2018 12:59 PM)Kronke Wrote:  

(06-18-2018 12:58 PM)tigergreen Wrote:  

(06-18-2018 12:54 PM)Kronke Wrote:  

(06-18-2018 12:50 PM)Lush Wrote:  so, what is the reason kids are being seperated?

Parents are incarcerated, and legal precedent says kids can't.

dems want the families to stay together, therefore dems want to send innocent children to prison.

No, the law says nothing about having to charge the parents as criminals. Keep it as a misdemeanor as it was prior to April, and you don't have to separate the kids.

Sessions/the Trump administration is removing kids from their parents in a political ploy.

So you want to give them a slap on the wrist and a date to appear in court, so they can take off and never be seen again.

It's a scam, and President Trump was elected to put an end to it.

So separating kids from their parents is worth it to try to curb it? That says a lot about the thought process of repubs in this country.

It's wrong, and we should be better than this, but apparently we're not.

(06-18-2018 12:59 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(06-18-2018 12:50 PM)Lush Wrote:  so, what is the reason kids are being seperated?

Because the law.

Why is now suddenly important?

Because republicans are using children in an attempt for political gain.

FYP. If Sessions hadn't issued this new policy in April, we wouldn't be having this discussion.

(06-18-2018 01:01 PM)tigergreen Wrote:  

(06-18-2018 12:59 PM)Kronke Wrote:  

(06-18-2018 12:58 PM)tigergreen Wrote:  

(06-18-2018 12:54 PM)Kronke Wrote:  

(06-18-2018 12:50 PM)Lush Wrote:  so, what is the reason kids are being seperated?

Parents are incarcerated, and legal precedent says kids can't.

dems want the families to stay together, therefore dems want to send innocent children to prison.

No, the law says nothing about having to charge the parents as criminals. Keep it as a misdemeanor as it was prior to April, and you don't have to separate the kids.

Sessions/the Trump administration is removing kids from their parents in a political ploy.

So you want to give them a slap on the wrist and a date to appear in court, so they can take off and never be seen again.

It's a scam, and President Trump was elected to put an end to it.

So separating kids from their parents is worth it to try to curb it? That says a lot about the thought process of repubs in this country.

It's wrong, and we should be better than this, but apparently we're not.

lol "worth it". I live in a border state, do you?

Then appeal to emotion, because you know you don't have the law, facts, or logic on your side.

dems = scam artists

(06-18-2018 01:00 PM)BadgerMJ Wrote:  This is pretty simple and once again a black & white issue.

If you don't want to risk being "separated from your kids", come here LEGALLY or seek "asylum" LEGALLY thru the proper channels.

If you refuse to follow our laws and procedures, that's on YOU, not on us.

Personally, it's about fricking time we start cracking down on this.

Just because you snuck in doesn't mean we need to keep you here.

It really is that simple.

(06-18-2018 01:00 PM)BadgerMJ Wrote:  This is pretty simple and once again a black & white issue.

If you don't want to risk being "separated from your kids", come here LEGALLY or seek "asylum" LEGALLY thru the proper channels.

If you refuse to follow our laws and procedures, that's on YOU, not on us.

Personally, it's about fricking time we start cracking down on this.

Just because you snuck in doesn't mean we need to keep you here.

Reunite them in their country of origin. Asylum my arse.

(06-18-2018 01:03 PM)Kronke Wrote:  

(06-18-2018 01:01 PM)tigergreen Wrote:  

(06-18-2018 12:59 PM)Kronke Wrote:  

(06-18-2018 12:58 PM)tigergreen Wrote:  

(06-18-2018 12:54 PM)Kronke Wrote:  Parents are incarcerated, and legal precedent says kids can't.

dems want the families to stay together, therefore dems want to send innocent children to prison.

No, the law says nothing about having to charge the parents as criminals. Keep it as a misdemeanor as it was prior to April, and you don't have to separate the kids.

Sessions/the Trump administration is removing kids from their parents in a political ploy.

So you want to give them a slap on the wrist and a date to appear in court, so they can take off and never be seen again.

It's a scam, and President Trump was elected to put an end to it.

So separating kids from their parents is worth it to try to curb it? That says a lot about the thought process of repubs in this country.

It's wrong, and we should be better than this, but apparently we're not.

lol "worth it".

Then appeal to emotion, because you know you don't have the law, facts, or logic on your side.

dems = scam artists

Please. Talk about scam artists. Repubs literally don't have the law on their side - the law says the parents would be charged with a misdemeanor, therefore families would get to stay together. So to get around that, they enact a 'zero tolerance policy'.

(06-18-2018 12:59 PM)Kronke Wrote:  

(06-18-2018 12:58 PM)tigergreen Wrote:  

(06-18-2018 12:54 PM)Kronke Wrote:  

(06-18-2018 12:50 PM)Lush Wrote:  so, what is the reason kids are being seperated?

Parents are incarcerated, and legal precedent says kids can't.

dems want the families to stay together, therefore dems want to send innocent children to prison.

No, the law says nothing about having to charge the parents as criminals. Keep it as a misdemeanor as it was prior to April, and you don't have to separate the kids.

Sessions/the Trump administration is removing kids from their parents in a political ploy.

So you want to give them a slap on the wrist and a date to appear in court, so they can take off and never be seen again.

It's a scam, and President Trump was elected to put an end to it.

Democrats want to encourage people to break the law and put their families at risk to score political points. It's really disgusting.

Democrats hate America

(06-18-2018 01:01 PM)tigergreen Wrote:  

(06-18-2018 12:59 PM)Kronke Wrote:  

(06-18-2018 12:58 PM)tigergreen Wrote:  

(06-18-2018 12:54 PM)Kronke Wrote:  

(06-18-2018 12:50 PM)Lush Wrote:  so, what is the reason kids are being seperated?

Parents are incarcerated, and legal precedent says kids can't.

dems want the families to stay together, therefore dems want to send innocent children to prison.

No, the law says nothing about having to charge the parents as criminals. Keep it as a misdemeanor as it was prior to April, and you don't have to separate the kids.

Sessions/the Trump administration is removing kids from their parents in a political ploy.

So you want to give them a slap on the wrist and a date to appear in court, so they can take off and never be seen again.

It's a scam, and President Trump was elected to put an end to it.

So separating kids from their parents is worth it to try to curb it? That says a lot about the thought process of repubs in this country.

It's wrong, and we should be better than this, but apparently we're not.

its also wrong to enter this country illegally, but I sure dont see you bitching about that.

(06-18-2018 01:14 PM)UTSAMarineVet09 Wrote:  

(06-18-2018 01:01 PM)tigergreen Wrote:  

(06-18-2018 12:59 PM)Kronke Wrote:  

(06-18-2018 12:58 PM)tigergreen Wrote:  

(06-18-2018 12:54 PM)Kronke Wrote:  Parents are incarcerated, and legal precedent says kids can't.

dems want the families to stay together, therefore dems want to send innocent children to prison.

No, the law says nothing about having to charge the parents as criminals. Keep it as a misdemeanor as it was prior to April, and you don't have to separate the kids.

Sessions/the Trump administration is removing kids from their parents in a political ploy.

So you want to give them a slap on the wrist and a date to appear in court, so they can take off and never be seen again.

It's a scam, and President Trump was elected to put an end to it.

So separating kids from their parents is worth it to try to curb it? That says a lot about the thought process of repubs in this country.

It's wrong, and we should be better than this, but apparently we're not.

its also wrong to enter this country illegally, but I sure dont see you bitching about that.

Democrats don't give a shite about these children. They got their new strategy from the leftist politburo and are pushing the propaganda. This is completely contrived strategic outrage. Disingenuous concern spread by useful idiots

They wonder why Trump won. Here is reason 6,572.

I wish someone would leak their itinerary of outrage points leading up to November.

I'm still trying to wrap my bread around needing asylum from a place that a few months ago the Dems said weren't dangerous or a sh*thole