(05-16-2018 06:11 PM)sierrajip Wrote:  

(05-16-2018 06:08 PM)Meatwad Wrote:  if you're on this list and want to, CLAIM IT. it can't be self-proclaimed if the NCAA recognizes the claim.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/College_fo...on_records

I thought it was not an NCAA playoff.

it's not. the ncaa doesn't sponsor a championship in FBS/1-A, but for their official record book they recognize certain selectors and one that they recognize ranked UCF #1.

Didn't saban also say at some point that a team shouldn't play for the national championship if they didn't win their conference?

What the Saban and the national media doesn't seem to realize is that it is May and they're still talking about UCF's football season. UCF has played the media like a fiddle with these National Championship claims.

(05-16-2018 12:49 PM)Huskypride Wrote:  "I guess anybody has the prerogative to claim anything. But self-proclaimed is not the same as actually earning it," Saban told USA Today in a story published Tuesday. "And there's probably a significant number of people who don't respect people who make self-proclaimed sort of accolades for themselves

Saban said he had a lot of respect for what UCF accomplished because going undefeated is no small feat, but he said the national champion claims were unfair.




"We've only had one undefeated team, and that is really hard to do," Saban said. "So I have a tremendous amount of respect for their team and what they were able to accomplish. ... And they can make every claim that they should have been in the playoff. I get that.

"But we have a system, and it's not fair to the people who went through the system and earned their way playing really, really good teams -- I mean really good teams -- and really tough games. It's not quite fair to them for somebody else just to decide to (claim a national championship)."


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“and it's not fair to the people who went through the system”

Not fair????!!! Not fair to Alabama?? I’d like some of what he’s smoking.

How about not fair to the AAC that no matter what our teams do we can’t get into the mythical playoff. That it is a total farce of a system and unlike any other NCAA sport where half the teams in Division 1 are subjectively locked out of the chance to play for a title??

That’s really not fair Nick. Good grief

Maybe I missed where someone else posted on this on ya'lls board, but Saban stole UCF's game against Texas too. FBSchedules says UT has cancelled the game with Central Florida and replaced it with Alabama.

(05-17-2018 06:10 AM)Magic95Fan Wrote:  Maybe I missed where someone else posted on this on ya'lls board, but Saban stole UCF's game against Texas too. FBSchedules says UT has cancelled the game with Central Florida and replaced it with Alabama.

Sabin can take his 0-1 vs UCF, AL and stick it where the sun don't shine.

Scott Frost has responded

Former UCF coach Scott Frost to Omaha’s KETV: “Alabama (has) probably got 1 or 2 championships that they claim that weren’t necessarily recognized by everybody”

He was being nice saying 1 or 2.

As far as I am concerned UCF won the Football National Championship

Bottom line is they need to develop a playoff that gives an auto bid to every ranked Conference Champion. I think that is a fair and equitable Playoff. If a MAC, CUSA or Sunbelt team wins their conference and is ranked they should get an auto bid. I would hope that most years the AAC Conference Champ is ranked but if not then our auto bid should go to a higher ranked team that failed to win their Conference Championship.

Would UCF had won a playoff championship last year ? Not sure but I am damn sure they could have competed with any team that made the Final 4 playoffs including Alabama so I as a College Football Fan was cheated out of watching them compete for the National Championship due to a monopoly created by the Country Club elitist P5 crowd

(05-17-2018 08:20 AM)ShoreBuc Wrote:  As far as I am concerned UCF won the Football National Championship

Bottom line is they need to develop a playoff that gives an auto bid to every ranked Conference Champion. I think that is a fair and equitable Playoff. If a MAC, CUSA or Sunbelt team wins their conference and is ranked they should get an auto bid. I would hope that most years the AAC Conference Champ is ranked but if not then our auto bid should go to a higher ranked team that failed to win their Conference Championship.

Would UCF had won a playoff championship last year ? Not sure but I am damn sure they could have competed with any team that made the Final 4 playoffs including Alabama so I as a College Football Fan was cheated out of watching them compete for the National Championship due to a monopoly created by the Country Club elitist P5 crowd

I'm honestly not crazy about any automatic bids. Just use computer rankings and take the top 8. Most years only 1 non qualifying team is worthy and even some p5 teams don't deserve an automatic bid.

(05-17-2018 08:27 AM)KNIGHTTIME Wrote:  

(05-17-2018 08:20 AM)ShoreBuc Wrote:  As far as I am concerned UCF won the Football National Championship

Bottom line is they need to develop a playoff that gives an auto bid to every ranked Conference Champion. I think that is a fair and equitable Playoff. If a MAC, CUSA or Sunbelt team wins their conference and is ranked they should get an auto bid. I would hope that most years the AAC Conference Champ is ranked but if not then our auto bid should go to a higher ranked team that failed to win their Conference Championship.

Would UCF had won a playoff championship last year ? Not sure but I am damn sure they could have competed with any team that made the Final 4 playoffs including Alabama so I as a College Football Fan was cheated out of watching them compete for the National Championship due to a monopoly created by the Country Club elitist P5 crowd

I'm honestly not crazy about any automatic bids. Just use computer rankings and take the top 8. Most years only 1 non qualifying team is worthy and even some p5 teams don't deserve an automatic bid.

computer rankings with a public formula so no backroom shenanigans to help favored teams.

A5 is a private football club within FBS, I think it’s gonna stay a private club for a long time mybe fore ever
Get use to it
We in the g5 have our own product and we are already creating our own image in the public eye

(05-17-2018 09:23 AM)JHS55 Wrote:  A5 is a private football club within FBS, I think it’s gonna stay a private club for a long time mybe fore ever
Get use to it
We in the g5 have our own product and we are already creating our own image in the public eye

Wtf are you going on about?

It's the same product we are putting out.

We don't have a g5 group. There is no coordination between the g4 and us for the purpose of marketing or creating an association. Hell the A5 barely coordinate what they are doing and it's mostly to keep us out.

That whole g5 playoff idea you are in love with is an A5 cretion pushed for by an AD who would sell his mother for an A5 job. Go to uni board with that nonsense.

(05-17-2018 08:27 AM)KNIGHTTIME Wrote:  

(05-17-2018 08:20 AM)ShoreBuc Wrote:  As far as I am concerned UCF won the Football National Championship

Bottom line is they need to develop a playoff that gives an auto bid to every ranked Conference Champion. I think that is a fair and equitable Playoff. If a MAC, CUSA or Sunbelt team wins their conference and is ranked they should get an auto bid. I would hope that most years the AAC Conference Champ is ranked but if not then our auto bid should go to a higher ranked team that failed to win their Conference Championship.

Would UCF had won a playoff championship last year ? Not sure but I am damn sure they could have competed with any team that made the Final 4 playoffs including Alabama so I as a College Football Fan was cheated out of watching them compete for the National Championship due to a monopoly created by the Country Club elitist P5 crowd

I'm honestly not crazy about any automatic bids. Just use computer rankings and take the top 8. Most years only 1 non qualifying team is worthy and even some p5 teams don't deserve an automatic bid.

I would love to see a 12 team playoff with auto bids to the ranked Conference Champions meaning what is now referred to the G5. Most years any P5 Champ is of course going to be ranked. Most years maybe two schools outside of the P5 will have a ranked Champion with the AAC hopefully always being one of those. This would allow for usually 6 at large teams. I doubt seriously the NCAA and Power cabal will allow for a 12 team playoff but even if we just went to 8 I would like to see a caveat where any team outside the so called P5 who leading into the Bowl season is ranked #12 or higher gets an auto bid into the playoff because there is just way too much manipulation and favoritism towards the P5 in the polls especially the pre season which brings me to my second new rule if I was NCAA Czar for the day and that would be no polls allowed until Week 6

Bottom line is the Bowl season has turned into a joke with 6-6 teams going so I would prefer to see a 12 team playoff and then have the Bowls do away with tie ins so they could actually schedule regional games of interest that might bring out more fans. ECU for example if we get back to having a pulse and finish a year with 8-9 wins would be a no brainer for the Belk Bowl in Charlotte against a ACC or SEC school that would sell out. Bowls were much better when there were less of them and more of a free market atmosphere when the Bowl committee could issue invitations to the best schools they could get

(05-17-2018 11:33 AM)ShoreBuc Wrote:  

(05-17-2018 08:27 AM)KNIGHTTIME Wrote:  

(05-17-2018 08:20 AM)ShoreBuc Wrote:  As far as I am concerned UCF won the Football National Championship

Bottom line is they need to develop a playoff that gives an auto bid to every ranked Conference Champion. I think that is a fair and equitable Playoff. If a MAC, CUSA or Sunbelt team wins their conference and is ranked they should get an auto bid. I would hope that most years the AAC Conference Champ is ranked but if not then our auto bid should go to a higher ranked team that failed to win their Conference Championship.

Would UCF had won a playoff championship last year ? Not sure but I am damn sure they could have competed with any team that made the Final 4 playoffs including Alabama so I as a College Football Fan was cheated out of watching them compete for the National Championship due to a monopoly created by the Country Club elitist P5 crowd

I'm honestly not crazy about any automatic bids. Just use computer rankings and take the top 8. Most years only 1 non qualifying team is worthy and even some p5 teams don't deserve an automatic bid.

I would love to see a 12 team playoff with auto bids to the ranked Conference Champions meaning what is now referred to the G5. Most years any P5 Champ is of course going to be ranked. Most years maybe two schools outside of the P5 will have a ranked Champion with the AAC hopefully always being one of those. This would allow for usually 6 at large teams. I doubt seriously the NCAA and Power cabal will allow for a 12 team playoff but even if we just went to 8 I would like to see a caveat where any team outside the so called P5 who leading into the Bowl season is ranked #12 or higher gets an auto bid into the playoff because there is just way too much manipulation and favoritism towards the P5 in the polls especially the pre season which brings me to my second new rule if I was NCAA Czar for the day and that would be no polls allowed until Week 6

Bottom line is the Bowl season has turned into a joke with 6-6 teams going so I would prefer to see a 12 team playoff and then have the Bowls do away with tie ins so they could actually schedule regional games of interest that might bring out more fans. ECU for example if we get back to having a pulse and finish a year with 8-9 wins would be a no brainer for the Belk Bowl in Charlotte against a ACC or SEC school that would sell out. Bowls were much better when there were less of them and more of a free market atmosphere when the Bowl committee could issue invitations to the best schools they could get

Teams like going places for bowls.

Bowls like filling hotels and restaurants for multiple time.

Cities like the tax bump and the tourist money.

Some bowls will go away, but such a regional set up will not happen. More importantly Michigan State will not want to go to the Detroit bowl, or Penn St to the pinstripe bowl, etc

(05-17-2018 10:01 AM)TU4ever Wrote:  

(05-17-2018 09:23 AM)JHS55 Wrote:  A5 is a private football club within FBS, I think it’s gonna stay a private club for a long time mybe fore ever
Get use to it
We in the g5 have our own product and we are already creating our own image in the public eye

Wtf are you going on about?

It's the same product we are putting out.

We don't have a g5 group. There is no coordination between the g4 and us for the purpose of marketing or creating an association. Hell the A5 barely coordinate what they are doing and it's mostly to keep us out.

That whole g5 playoff idea you are in love with is an A5 cretion pushed for by an AD who would sell his mother for an A5 job. Go to uni board with that nonsense.

Ok can’t really argue with you, but I think the A5 will remain separate from us forever and they will claim a champion for all of FBS
Iam just looking far down the road and I don’t like the options for the rest of us to get into their A5 club playoffs
If the AAC gets a big bump in pay say 10 or 14 million , would we have a better chance to get into their playoffs?, I doubt it

https://newsok.com/article/5594944/why-d...e-over-ucf

(05-16-2018 08:15 PM)Jugnaut Wrote:  Didn't saban also say at some point that a team shouldn't play for the national championship if they didn't win their conference?

Yes when his team won the conference and other schools he didn't want to play that made the playoffs as number 2 in their respective conferences. Schools like Ohio state who we're stronger than them on paper and that could beat them in the first round of the playoff. He never argued when Alabama made the playoff as the runner up of the SEC though.

(05-17-2018 08:27 AM)KNIGHTTIME Wrote:  

(05-17-2018 08:20 AM)ShoreBuc Wrote:  As far as I am concerned UCF won the Football National Championship

Bottom line is they need to develop a playoff that gives an auto bid to every ranked Conference Champion. I think that is a fair and equitable Playoff. If a MAC, CUSA or Sunbelt team wins their conference and is ranked they should get an auto bid. I would hope that most years the AAC Conference Champ is ranked but if not then our auto bid should go to a higher ranked team that failed to win their Conference Championship.

Would UCF had won a playoff championship last year ? Not sure but I am damn sure they could have competed with any team that made the Final 4 playoffs including Alabama so I as a College Football Fan was cheated out of watching them compete for the National Championship due to a monopoly created by the Country Club elitist P5 crowd

I'm honestly not crazy about any automatic bids. Just use computer rankings and take the top 8. Most years only 1 non qualifying team is worthy and even some p5 teams don't deserve an automatic bid.

Every conference should have a path to the playoff. 9 or 10 auto bids to the champions of each D1 league plus 6 wildcards to the best teams who didn’t win their league.

That’s the only way to do it