(02-20-2018 01:13 PM)jsw3ent Wrote:  For us to tell Penny to go to OLE PISS for a year for (whatever reason)----is saying take 4/5 stars to OLE PISS, make them relevant/better ---- while we continue to suck. After we continue to be irrelevant for a couple more years----as we help out OLE PISS or KENTSUCKY ----then we will bring you home. Yea that makes sense .

No one outside of Cal is going to make Ole Miss relevant in less than 3 years.

It took Bruce Pearl four years to make Auburn relevant.

Chill.

A) It's interesting to discuss but nothing's going to happen. Tubby will be here next season.
B) If Penny can't bring that class (as some have suggested), is next season that much of an urgency anyway ?

(02-20-2018 02:02 PM)FlyingTiger2016 Wrote:  

(02-20-2018 01:13 PM)jsw3ent Wrote:  For us to tell Penny to go to OLE PISS for a year for (whatever reason)----is saying take 4/5 stars to OLE PISS, make them relevant/better ---- while we continue to suck. After we continue to be irrelevant for a couple more years----as we help out OLE PISS or KENTSUCKY ----then we will bring you home. Yea that makes sense .

No one outside of Cal is going to make Ole Miss relevant in less than 3 years.

It took Bruce Pearl four years to make Auburn relevant.

Chill.

In BB it only takes one or two to make a impact. They would undoubtedly be more relevant than we would be. As for the chill remark....the 1st amendment.

(02-20-2018 12:56 PM)Crazier Wrote:  Might as well offer it to him. He can't be worse than the tubbster and the pazz.

Yes. It could be worse. A lot worse.

If Penny doesn't get the stud recruits in the first year or two, you'll be wishing we had Tubby and the 20+ wins we'll get this season.

And, even if Penny were to get some top recruits right off the bat, there is no guarantee that he could maintain any level of success. Coaching at the NCAA Division 1 level is a COMPLETELY different animal than high school or AAU "coaching".

(02-20-2018 01:13 PM)jsw3ent Wrote:  For us to tell Penny to go to OLE PISS for a year for (whatever reason)----is saying take 4/5 stars to OLE PISS, make them relevant/better ---- while we continue to suck. After we continue to be irrelevant for a couple more years----as we help out OLE PISS or KENTSUCKY ----then we will bring you home. Yea that makes sense .

I would like to see him try to get those players to go to Ole Piss. Then I would like to see him try and coach up Andy Kennedy's players when they don't.

(02-20-2018 02:27 PM)oruvoice Wrote:  

(02-20-2018 12:56 PM)Crazier Wrote:  Might as well offer it to him. He can't be worse than the tubbster and the pazz.

Yes. It could be worse. A lot worse.

If Penny doesn't get the stud recruits in the first year or two, you'll be wishing we had Tubby and the 20+ wins we'll get this season.

And, even if Penny were to get some top recruits right off the bat, there is no guarantee that he could maintain any level of success. Coaching at the NCAA Division 1 level is a COMPLETELY different animal than high school or AAU "coaching".

It can't get worse than it is now; impossible. For starters, Tubby is going on year 3 without bringing in a point guard that can run a D1 offense. At the very least, Penny would have one on campus next season.

(02-20-2018 02:38 PM)Stammers Wrote:  

(02-20-2018 02:27 PM)oruvoice Wrote:  

(02-20-2018 12:56 PM)Crazier Wrote:  Might as well offer it to him. He can't be worse than the tubbster and the pazz.

Yes. It could be worse. A lot worse.

If Penny doesn't get the stud recruits in the first year or two, you'll be wishing we had Tubby and the 20+ wins we'll get this season.

And, even if Penny were to get some top recruits right off the bat, there is no guarantee that he could maintain any level of success. Coaching at the NCAA Division 1 level is a COMPLETELY different animal than high school or AAU "coaching".

It can't get worse than it is now; impossible. For starters, Tubby is going on year 3 without bringing in a point guard that can run a D1 offense. At the very least, Penny would have one on campus next season.

Yes. It could be MUCH worse. In three years from now, we could be 8-22 under a Memphis legend and in a real pickle.

(02-20-2018 02:15 PM)80sTiger Wrote:  A) It's interesting to discuss but nothing's going to happen. Tubby will be here next season.
B) If Penny can't bring that class (as some have suggested), is next season that much of an urgency anyway ?

All our AD has to do is hold a press conference and announce that Tubby will be here next season. He’s our coach. We believe in Tubby. And it’s our hopes that the talk of Tubby not coaching the Memphis Tigers next season will end. We have a coach, and his name is Tubby. Thanks for coming guys and ladies, y’all have a great day. We have cookies and punch in the back on the blue tables. Go Tigers!

Boom!

(02-20-2018 02:44 PM)oruvoice Wrote:  

(02-20-2018 02:38 PM)Stammers Wrote:  

(02-20-2018 02:27 PM)oruvoice Wrote:  

(02-20-2018 12:56 PM)Crazier Wrote:  Might as well offer it to him. He can't be worse than the tubbster and the pazz.

Yes. It could be worse. A lot worse.

If Penny doesn't get the stud recruits in the first year or two, you'll be wishing we had Tubby and the 20+ wins we'll get this season.

And, even if Penny were to get some top recruits right off the bat, there is no guarantee that he could maintain any level of success. Coaching at the NCAA Division 1 level is a COMPLETELY different animal than high school or AAU "coaching".

It can't get worse than it is now; impossible. For starters, Tubby is going on year 3 without bringing in a point guard that can run a D1 offense. At the very least, Penny would have one on campus next season.

Yes. It could be MUCH worse. In three years from now, we could be 8-22 under a Memphis legend and in a real pickle.

You are describing us in two years if Tubby is still here, and there is ZERO chance that any coach except Tubby could have a class at Memphis consisting of Vanover. IMPOSSIBLE that a Memphis coach can go 3 years without pulling in a single top 150 recruit.

No chance at all that Penny will do worse, nobody could eff it up as bad as Tubby has.

(02-20-2018 02:54 PM)Joe1 Wrote:  

(02-20-2018 02:15 PM)80sTiger Wrote:  A) It's interesting to discuss but nothing's going to happen. Tubby will be here next season.
B) If Penny can't bring that class (as some have suggested), is next season that much of an urgency anyway ?

All our AD has to do is hold a press conference and announce that Tubby will be here next season. He’s our coach. We believe in Tubby. And it’s our hopes that the talk of Tubby not coaching the Memphis Tigers next season will end. We have a coach, and his name is Tubby. Thanks for coming guys and ladies, y’all have a great day. We have cookies and punch in the back on the blue tables. Go Tigers!

Boom!

If they charge for the cookies and the punch they will bring in more revenue than most of our games.

(02-20-2018 02:19 PM)jsw3ent Wrote:  

(02-20-2018 02:02 PM)FlyingTiger2016 Wrote:  

(02-20-2018 01:13 PM)jsw3ent Wrote:  For us to tell Penny to go to OLE PISS for a year for (whatever reason)----is saying take 4/5 stars to OLE PISS, make them relevant/better ---- while we continue to suck. After we continue to be irrelevant for a couple more years----as we help out OLE PISS or KENTSUCKY ----then we will bring you home. Yea that makes sense .

No one outside of Cal is going to make Ole Miss relevant in less than 3 years.

It took Bruce Pearl four years to make Auburn relevant.

Chill.

In BB it only takes one or two to make a impact. They would undoubtedly be more relevant than we would be. As for the chill remark....the 1st amendment.

LOL. No. Look at Auburn and Mississippi State classes for the past 4 years.

Top 20, tons of 4*s and a few 5*s.

Honestly, I don't think Mississippi State is more relevant than us right now. Not in this market.

(02-20-2018 03:10 PM)Stammers Wrote:  

(02-20-2018 02:54 PM)Joe1 Wrote:  

(02-20-2018 02:15 PM)80sTiger Wrote:  A) It's interesting to discuss but nothing's going to happen. Tubby will be here next season.
B) If Penny can't bring that class (as some have suggested), is next season that much of an urgency anyway ?

All our AD has to do is hold a press conference and announce that Tubby will be here next season. He’s our coach. We believe in Tubby. And it’s our hopes that the talk of Tubby not coaching the Memphis Tigers next season will end. We have a coach, and his name is Tubby. Thanks for coming guys and ladies, y’all have a great day. We have cookies and punch in the back on the blue tables. Go Tigers!

Boom!

If they charge for the cookies and the punch they will bring in more revenue than most of our games.

Good one!

(02-20-2018 12:51 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  Unless Penny is going to end up bitter by not getting the job initially I don't see it as a negative with someone else taking the risk so he can prove himself.

As long as we are confident if we offer Penny will come home it is a better situation.

OM could hire him at a salary which would make it impossible for us to hire him away. We would have to buy out Orlando and then most likely would have to buy Penny out of the OM contract. So we cannot afford to allow him to take any SEC head coaching position.

(02-20-2018 02:15 PM)80sTiger Wrote:  A) It's interesting to discuss but nothing's going to happen. Tubby will be here next season.
B) If Penny can't bring that class (as some have suggested), is next season that much of an urgency anyway ?

Orlando more or less saved his job by winning two road games back to back against two undermanned teams who are currently on an 0-11 streak.

(02-20-2018 03:27 PM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  

(02-20-2018 02:15 PM)80sTiger Wrote:  A) It's interesting to discuss but nothing's going to happen. Tubby will be here next season.
B) If Penny can't bring that class (as some have suggested), is next season that much of an urgency anyway ?

Orlando more or less saved his job by winning two road games back to back against two undermanned teams who are currently on an 0-11 streak.

We are back ahead of schedule.

(02-20-2018 03:53 PM)Stammers Wrote:  

(02-20-2018 03:27 PM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  

(02-20-2018 02:15 PM)80sTiger Wrote:  A) It's interesting to discuss but nothing's going to happen. Tubby will be here next season.
B) If Penny can't bring that class (as some have suggested), is next season that much of an urgency anyway ?

Orlando more or less saved his job by winning two road games back to back against two undermanned teams who are currently on an 0-11 streak.

We are back ahead of schedule.

Cusp

(02-20-2018 03:08 PM)Stammers Wrote:  No chance at all that Penny will do worse, nobody could eff it up as bad as Tubby has.

While I don't think Penny will necessarily do WORSE either, that's also what we said about Pastner, and we see where that got us.

(02-20-2018 04:23 PM)tigergreen Wrote:  

(02-20-2018 03:08 PM)Stammers Wrote:  No chance at all that Penny will do worse, nobody could eff it up as bad as Tubby has.

While I don't think Penny will necessarily do WORSE either, that's also what we said about Pastner, and we see where that got us.

People can’t just assume automatically that Penny will fail. One could say just as easy without knowing that he will be a smashing success.

(02-20-2018 04:31 PM)Joe1 Wrote:  

(02-20-2018 04:23 PM)tigergreen Wrote:  

(02-20-2018 03:08 PM)Stammers Wrote:  No chance at all that Penny will do worse, nobody could eff it up as bad as Tubby has.

While I don't think Penny will necessarily do WORSE either, that's also what we said about Pastner, and we see where that got us.

People can’t just assume automatically that Penny will fail. One could say just as easy without knowing that he will be a smashing success.

What we have here is a failure to communicate. Penny would I'm be light years better than Tubby. Penny is young and hungry to win. Tubby, not so much but I'm afraid it's a moot point. Doubt we drain the Tub

(02-20-2018 04:23 PM)tigergreen Wrote:  

(02-20-2018 03:08 PM)Stammers Wrote:  No chance at all that Penny will do worse, nobody could eff it up as bad as Tubby has.

While I don't think Penny will necessarily do WORSE either, that's also what we said about Pastner, and we see where that got us.

There are limits to everything. At the very least Penny will raise ticket revenues by $20 million if he is here for 2 years.